Seemingly right wing activists!
You were right.
"Police identify Oslo bomber/Utoya shooter as Right Wing extremist:"
"As soon as it became clear mass murderer in #Oslo was not Muslim media instantly stopped using terrorist and instead used madman."
I heard a show the other day...some people in Pakistan think that 9/11 was done to turn the world against Islam.
I think they're right. I think it's much like Operation Gladio....right-wingers committing acts of terror and blaming the Left.
It's really becoming clear as day.
I wasn't aware that the Tea Party had spread to Norway.
Yeah and Stalin et al were left wing activists. So you lumping all left wingers with them?
Isn't that how it works?
Haven't ALL muslims been suspect since 9/11??
And if a muslim were to shoot up a place....wouldn't you be saying--better get a handle on muslim groups?
No one operates in a vacuum.
And any guy who takes the time to blog about his beliefs is a serious ideologue. THAT ideology is proving to be dangerous!
Should we just ignore it?
me don't think so.
I will reserve judgement. "The bomb was followed by a fatal shooting incident near Oslo at a youth meeting of the Labour Party, which Mr Stoltenberg leads." Would seem right-wing. In the US left-media, it is of course intimated
as Muslim terrorists.
All the are saying is the gunman was white and Norwegian. They are not taking any claims of who did it seriously.
Right right right right right. . . had to be right wing activists, drool slurp yeh yeh yeh, yummy oh at last the right wing activists. . . .
Abu Suleiman al-Nasser, an Islamist with links to Al-Qaeda and other Islamic extremist groups, has claimed responsibility for today’s bomb in Oslo.
The ‘Helpers of Global Jihad’ group, of which al-Nasser is a member, made the claims in an email circular issued to various sources. The group does not appear to have any past history.
It is thought that the bombings are a belated response to Norwegian newspapers and magazines republishing cartoons of Mohammed originally published by Jyllands-Posten of Denmark.
British Prime Minister David Cameron said, “I was outraged to hear about the explosion in Oslo and attack on Utøya Island. My thoughts are with wounded and those who lost family.”
Knut Storberget, Norway’s Minister of Justice confirms this evening the arrested shooter, who is believed to have carried several guns, is a Norwegian.
http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/islam … o-bombing/
SO very disappointing
A gunman stalked youths at an island summer camp for young members of the governing party after explosions in Oslo hit government buildings. The police seized a man, Anders Behring Breivik, whom they described as a right-wing extremist connected to the attacks.
“We are not sure whether he was alone or had help,” a police official, Roger Andresen, said at a televised news conference. “What we know is that he is right-wing and a Christian fundamentalist.” So far Mr. Breivik has not been linked to any anti-jihadist groups, he said.On Saturday, King Harald and Queen Sonja met with survivors of the camp shooting and their family members at a hotel outside Oslo.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/world … r=1&hp
There is no proof of this at all...
This from the BBC and the Norwegian government.
You seem to be the one salivating over this.
What is disappointing is that some people can't put aside their own precious bloody agenda and finely honed sarcasm long enough to just offer sincere and unconditional sympathy to those who have lost friends and family and been traumatized as a nation.
My sincere condolences to the country of Norway, and particularly to the victims and their families.
Mindless no matter who did it.
I respectfully disagree. It demonstrates how mindful an evil man's actions can be.
Oh yes, butter wouldn't melt in your mouths, so sorry sorry. but isn't it funny how the left always runs ahead making clear their hope that AT LAST it is a right wing terrorist and NOT the people who have clearly declared war against the west. It's sickening.
I have avoided seeing it and just caught a bit of what happened on the radio, so had no idea who was responsible.
Whoever did it is a dangerous psychopath, and it matters not which particular political persuasion the perpetrator/s are to me.
Well, it's not accurate to call Al Qaeda nodes "left wing." They're fanatical, uncivilized, vicious, religious whackjobs, neither right wing nor left wing..
Not hope Ann but a retelling of what the article stated.
Whoever did it is no hero and does not detract one iota from the sympathy I feel for the people of Norway.
Associated Press: Norwegian police say bombing, shootings, probably work of one man; "does not appear to be linked to Islamist terrorism."
Well that narrows it down. RT @Slatest: Cops say Oslo gunman tall w/ blond hair and "Nordic appearance."
Sadly, they have raised the number of deaths to 80 at the camp. Awful.
This seems to have been a camp run for the youth wing of the Norwegian socialist party.
The person who has been arrested is distinctly not Islamic.
it could be anyone whos a bit 'p-d off', lots of those around
Yup...is he had been Islamic he must have been a terrorist with ties to Al-Queda. Not Islamic...must be just some lone nut.
"The suspect in police custody - a blonde blue-eyed Norwegian with reported Christian fundamentalist, anti-Muslim views - has been preliminarily charged with acts of terrorism."
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ … attacks.do
THIS is what's going on all over the world.....and it's egged on by right-wing dis-information media.
Subliminally promoting violence against certain people, while holding the trigger in their own hand.
Which is more dangerous, a Christian fundamentalist or a Muslim fundamentalist?
What's obvious to you and me, Ralph, is that this guys actions don't square with Christianity (the teachings Christ) any more than random killings by 'islamic' fundamentalists can be reconciled with modern Islam.
"Norway backs Palestinian bid for UN recognition in September"
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23 … september/
I think it a brilliant idea that young activists of a political party can camp together and meet leading members of their party on a social basis. Well worth copying, but sadly now with some security needed.
Yes, well--I think it's more than security...they need to seriously check these right-wing groups!
Stop pretending that the only terrorists are muslim.
"Norwegian bloggers are reporting that Breivik is the author of a blog called Fjordman and that he’s guest blogged for Atlas Shrugs, Jihad Watch and Gates of Vienna “for years.” As Breivik, he publicly praised one of her posts. Elise Hendrick has translated a passage from Realisten which confirms that Fjordman and Breivik are one and the same:
According to his own statements, Anders Behring Breivik previously operated the blog ‘Fjordman’, and later wrote for many years under the pseudonym Fjordman for the anti-Muslim and Zionist blogs Gates of Vienna and Jihad Watch."
There's that Atlas Shrugged again...that Pamela woman. Calling the FBI....hello! Interrogation-time.
"No one will bomb us to silence. No one wil shoot us to silence. No one will ever scare us away from being Norway," Mr Stoltenberg says.
If the Christian Conservatives disavow this nutter because his actions are not "Christian" - which is fair enough - then presumably they will accept that the nutters on the "Islamic" side are not Islamic.
That's a good point. According to an article in today's NYT, the Norweigian killer's blogs were full of quotes from American sources such as Jihad Watch and other Christian nativist propaganda.
Don't forget Zionist Pamela Geller. He blogged on her site as well.
He's a Christian/Zionist Terrorist. But they won't call him that.
They'll call him a lone crazy.
And Thom Hartmann said today: "When are they going to waterboard him and find out where the other cells are?"
Isn't that the way WE did things with muslims??
What's the difference?
Bush!! Cheney!!!! Rumsfeld!!! Let's hear you call for waterboarding this dude.
I don't think so.
I think he's part of an agenda.
And I think people like him are the real enemy.
Came out today. he worked alone and had a manifest like the unibombers. Everyone's speculation was unfounded.
Why did he write at Gellers' web-site? He must identify with her...and SHE is involved in the radical anti-muslim jihad going on in my country!
You can believe the official story if you like....I don't.
Unless I was at the wrong site, He praised Geller for her thought but nowhere does Geller say that he did it because he was a Christian fighter or a Muslim terrorist.In fact the link she posted for the manuscrip does not work. It says:
The file link that you requested is not valid. Please contact link publisher or try to make a search.
And yes, I will believe an Offical story, when one is available and after I research to see if it is valid, over Gellers opinion.
That is not what the subject is saying...if you can believe him.
WMRDC Wayne Madsen
After Oslo: Time to crack down on Mossad terrorism. Today at WayneMadsenReport.com
I knew you would somehow drag Israel into this. This has nothing to do with Mossad. It is about one Norwegan and his own actions, no one else was involved or backed him.He may have acted on his beliefs, his worped ideals, but he acted alone
"No one else was involved."
Not true. Jihad Watch and other nutjob fringe Evangelical Christian websites supported the Norweigian's delusions and encouraged his actions.
I just heard that he is a type 2 fanatic.
His beliefs have had him festering over his current actions for years.
Toys R Us sells their goods at Christmas time. They heavily advertise to get you to come to their store. They want your busines, they want you to tell your friends to participate and shop there. Does that mean Toys R us is making you support a Christian Faith? They also push for purchases for Chanukah, does that mean they push the Jewish religion on you too?
What someone does or reads about a group like Jihad Watch or Evangelical Christian Websites, does not mean they backed him, or funded him, or even gave him the gun and bomb materials. I did that himself, on his own, alone. Just like going to Toys R us instead of Walmart, we did that on our own
I didn't say they backed him or approved what he did let alone funded him, But that their anti-immigrant, Islamophobic propaganda INFLUENCED him. So, did fellow nutjob, the Unibomber.
He reportedly quoted approvingly in his ranting blogs from a variety of sources in the United States.
If I misunderstood you I apologize I went by what you posted:
Evangelical Christian websites SUPPORTED the Norweigian's delusions and encouraged his actions.
I took Supported as that, they supported him, helped him. I do agree they Influenced his actions, but he acted alone. No matter what, it was a sad day
I agree that he apparently acted alone.
I just heard an NPR interview with a correspondent in Russia who said extremist bloggers there are saying crazy things like "He acted in self-defense."
All his lil Leant leftists NAZI friends are most definitley involved.
He was encouraged by his NAZI friends and Socialist cheerleaders. This man was no Christian, and he was no Right Winger as America knows it.
He was a Left-wing NAZI Secular Humanist. The site he wrote on NORDISK encourages violent actions against the govt., and they are NAZIs. His own words verify this, and to keep ignoring it is only proof of the deception used against the American Right today.
You all constantly have to try and throw your trash on our lawn and claim it is ours... too bad... claim and clean up your own piles of shit.
What a joke.
And we know the American left is pushing and cheerleading for something like this in America as we speak. MSNBC spends long moments every day yearning for the rise of Americans into the streets for riots demanding their fair share. It is amazing how many times a day, from Nika to Ed, they yearn for violence and the people to take to the streeets and take what they want.
Showing their true colors as usual. While the rest of the left and progressives act like nothing is going on.
Breivik is son of former Norwegian diplomat, stepson of Norwegian military officer.
"European Jewish leaders disavow Breivik’s Zionism
The Jewish Telegraph Agency reports on European Jewish leaders’ efforts to disavow Anders Breivik’s pro-Israel philosophy:
The words of right-wing populist politicians “are dangerous, it allows them to radicalize,” Hajo Funke, an expert on right-wing extremism in Europe and the Holocaust at Touro College Berlin and the Free University Berlin, told JTA in a phone interview.
“It is a tactical viewpoint of the rising populist right-wing to use this kind of identification, or forced identification with Israel, to be accepted,” he said. “They say, ‘Our enemies are not any more the Jew … the real enemy as you can see all over the world is Islam, and not only Islam, but the Islamic person.’ This is the new, great danger.”
Stephan Kramer, general secretary of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, told JTA that “in the recent years we have witnessed the phenomenon of radical rightists proclaiming their sympathy for Jews and their support for Israel, also in Germany,” adding that “In many cases, it is clear that this is no more than a PR maneuver to create an air of respectability.”
“Whatever ‘support’ for Israel Anders Behring Breivik may have had in his abominable mind, it is not any kind of support we want,” Kramer said.
One day after the attack, members of Norway’s small Jewish community gathered at the Synagogue of Oslo to pray for the survivors.
“We also pray that the authorities will be less naive on security issues and threats,” businessman Erwin Kohn, newly elected head of the 750-member Jewish community, said in a telephone interview from Oslo.
Kohn added that it appeared that no one in the Jewish community was injured or killed in the attack, but “we are affected just the same as the Norwegian society in general.”
On the reports about Breivik’s online postings, he offered his concerns.
“You have many others who are in the same ballpark, being scared of multiculturalism,” Kohn said, adding that Breivik’s alleged pro-Zionism is a sham. “We don’t need such friends, we don’t need such friends.”
Serge Cwajgenbaum, secretary general of the European Jewish Congress, in a call from France said that Breivik “is not pro-Israel — he is anti-Muslim.”
One of these days we are going to have to admit that 1 + 1 = 2, and DO something about it!
How much more death will it take?
Here's Beck, the Idiot Clown:
VIDEO: Glenn Beck Compares Attacked Norway Youth Camp To “Hitler Youth” http://bit.ly/p5l7I4 #p2 #tcot
No video, just audio I do not like Beck, I am glad he is off TV. But here is what he said and you can decide
Beck said, “Saturday I was following the news of the shooting in Norway and the explosion in Norway, which happened what on Friday…When we heard the explosion everybody was willing to say, it’s Muslim extremists, it’s Muslim extremists. I don’t think we made a comment on it because we didn’t know other than a bombing had happened, and as the thing started to unfold and there was a shooting a political camp, which SOUNDS a little like the Hitler Youth or you know whatever. Who does a camp for kids that’s all about politics? Disturbing. But, anyway, so there’s this political camp and so crazy man goes and starts shooting kids.”
He said Sounded like, not that it was one. He drew no comparisons
That is how he operates! Throws little bombs out there, as inocuous little comments.....
"Daddy, why do you hate white people?" (speaking as Malia Obama)....."I don't know...I just.....I really think this man has a deep-seated hatred for white people!"
That's the message he wants to get across. And he keeps on and on and on with it.
Now, the other message is "Liberals are like Hitler."
Golly----where have we heard that before????
"Liberals are socialist...Hitler was socialist, so Liberals are just like Hitler. IE: Liberals are Nazi's. Hence--the Hitler mustache on Obama.
And--if this had been a conservative Republican camp, and a left-winger had shot it up...what do you think he would be saying today?
Beck's comment was typically dumb. He may as well have said the liberals got what was coming to them.
No question, almost everything Beck says is dumb. But despite that, we should not twist what he actually said into something that we want it to say.
That would be like me saying you said"the liberals got what was coming to them.' and leaving out the rest of your sentence inorder to make a point. But you clearly did not mean that.
This happens here on these threads all the time. Beck says enough crap we can get on him for, we do not need to twist something he said into something it was not.
"Glenn Beck Compares Attacked Norway Youth Camp To “Hitler Youth”". If this is true it is the
guys like Beck that are responsible for this
sort of mayhem. They are hate and violence
mongers and well paid for it, like maybe over
50 million a year. Crime is the law of the land.
The camp was as much a Hitler Youth camp as is a Young Republican's convention
So...is he blaming the victims for being there?
"The camp was as much a Hitler Youth camp as is a Young Republican's convention"
I see sweet pee is at it again...
Sounds like it to me....sounds like he's saying they deserved to die. Or at least that we shouldn't feel too bad about it. Since--you know, they were scum. Nice going Idiot. (Beck!!, not anyone else)
Yes, and it is no accident.
I knew something was fishy with elRushbo,(Limbaugh) as he took all the time slots at 12 noon back in 1991.
It's an orchestrated campaign.
ALEC has been in operation since 1973. Just when Roe v Wade came about, huh?
Try getting an abortion today. They are effective. And anti-Constitution!
And I just read today....the monied campaign to destroy Obama--Romney is involved!! KNEW it! That guy is a nasty piece of work, behind the facade.
And Loughner heard the message and ran with it, just like this guy. It's not random!
It just occurred to me...that is what Fox was calling Obama's Youth Initiative....comparing it to Hitler's Youth.
Remember that woman who was crying because her kid was supposed to sing a song for Obama when he visited the school?
There was a class offered when I was in college.....called The Madness of Crowds.
I think we were infected by it....
And they're still trying. But we got wise, so they have to ratchet up the noise.
Little do they know....we are on to them.
I remember that. If I recall the reason it came up was because the Obama Admin. Supplied them the song to sing ahead of time for them to learn. Now before you say the did it themselves It was the same song sung at 3 different schools. I do not think 3 different music teachers could write the same lyrics to sing to Obama on his visit.
Here's a very interesting perspective by Storytellersrus:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Passive-respons … -in-Norway
You make me laugh TM,you have officially lost it and I won't be paying any more attention to your ramblings.
Nazi's never were and never will be left wing or socialist. No matter how much you want them to be.
Not many left wing groups are so vehement against immigrants and Muslim's.
You can all play at that BS all you want.
You all ignnore Hitler and his croonies own words and those of the surrounding nations... just to believe your own BS.
And UW... NAZI is by definition a Socialist. Google it... see what NAZI means literally. And Hitler and his own, along with all the Socialists and Commies around Germany and Europe at the time, had no doubt what the NAZIs were.
Yes they may have ended in a facist state,-which is not right wing either-, but Hitler used Socialism to consolidate and gain his power, and that is a historic fact.
You all cannot hide the truth anymore with the BS lies. We see the Leftists in this world for who they are, and we are well aware of their history of slaughter and opression. The 20th century taught us well that the worlds Leant Left, Marx's demented off-spring and all its twisted cousins... cannot be trusted to do anything except grab power, and cook and enslave their enemies.
And yes Chris... Obama is a racist. Birds of a feather, you know.
The standard definition of socialism does not include Nazism. Actually it is the antithesis of Hitler's "national socialism." Anyone cannot call themselves a socialist but that doesn't make them one in the conventional sense which does not include dictatorships like Nazi Germany of Stalinist Russia. You are transparent in your attempts to smear Democrats, liberals, progressives.
So anyone can claim they are a Christian, and poof they are... but not a Socialist.
And no... Hitler's "Natiional Socialism" was not so much in conflict with Marx, nor doe the uniting of workers under a nationalist pride instead of a world wide workers collective, nullify any of Marx' influence on Hitler.
Marx understood fully there were many different "transitional" stages of Societal evolution which would not mirror exactly his idea of Socialism or even pure Communism. Something you all seem to ignore all the time. Marx and Engels both understood that there would be many many mixes of his ideology and others, and that they would, in his opinion, move toward the goal of Pure Communism.
All parts of the sum.
Embrace your own, Ralph... and then wake up and see where that ideology leads. The examples are strewn throughout the history of the 20th century. Slaughtered eviscoratted bodies litter the nations of the world which have been forced to accept that BS.
Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Socialism, Communism, NAZI-ism, whether looked at in a devided fashion, or as a whole... are/is responsible for most of the worst mass slaughters in the last century. Tens of millions, hundreds of millions, dead from that Leftist hate and domination. And they all end the same way... facist dictatorships based on mass murder, rape, and enslavment of the citizenry.
What is so funny and sad is that the American Left loved Hitler... right up until he and Stalin had their falling out. Then they all ran to Stalin's side and denounced Hitler. What a bunch of losers they were... the American Left has always embraced mass murderers and dictators.
Cruel sensless act, happens in any country, any time. Terrorism is not a solution, violence cannot change anything. When people will be able to comprehend?
"What is so funny and sad is that the American Left loved Hitler." Actually thought it rather
strange that the hippies should adopt the Volkswagen as their car. Heard much that the
US and British ruling classes supported Hitler,
because he was anti-socialist and they hoped
he would take out Russian communism. That the left supported Hitler is a new one on me. Course so is most of what you say. But then I'm not
adverse to learning new things.
A very interesting read... and stuffed full of original sources.
We all know NAZIs are Socialists... the lie is dead, Ralph.
Give it up
Yes, very original sources, so original that I can't even view them!
The first link, to which I was refering, is a book... buy it and you can have all the access you want. Or, go to the library and take it out, if you all have a library that carries anything deemed right-wing anymore.
The second is just a lil sumtin sumtin to read while you sit around thinking up more inane denials of your own ilk.
Chris... "fanatic" is the only word that comes to mind when I read what you write.
Evidence emerges of Breivik's links to Israel. Today at WayneMadsenReport.com
Cenk Uygur: Fox News Pretends Norway Terrorist Isn’t Right-Wing http://goo.gl/fb/OTtqK
"Now, despite the fact that a “domestic terrorist” has confessed in Norway, the terror attacks there are being tied to Israel, just as with 9/11 and the 7/7 attacks in London. The organizations in Norway and the United Kingdom, tied to the Tea Party in America, being hunted down by police are Israeli trained and funded, part of an operation tying “Islamophobia” to Christian Zionism, bringing to the surface dormant racist traditions."
Maybe, just maybe...finally we will get to the real enemies of freedom, love and humanity.
And the Real Terrorists of this century.
Are you running Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, et al?
You'd better. Time is almost up.
Hagee?? Maybe you should go too. Robertson...the whole lot of you.
"Now, despite the fact that a “domestic terrorist” has confessed in Norway, the terror attacks there are being tied to Israel, just as with 9/11 and the 7/7 attacks in London."
Actually the blame may be placed on the War Industries, the War on Terror and the creation
of Islamophopia by the neocons to justify it
all. You can bet all these hate mongering neocons are all rich.
Yes, he mentioned the American version in the article:
Project for a New American Century.
Came to power in the Bush adminitration.
After years of planning...Cheney and Rummy's been together since the 1970's.....imagine that.
Know who they worked for? Gerald Ford, otherwise known as head of the Michigan Mafia.(according to Kathy O'Brien)
Oh, it's such a dirty, sordid tale really...that's why no one wants to hear it
But hear it we must if we ever want to grow as a people.
"Now, despite the fact that a “domestic terrorist” has confessed in Norway, the terror attacks there are being tied to Israel, just as with 9/11 and the 7/7 attacks in London."
Stop making stuff up. HE CONFESSED!!!! HE acted alone!!!! no help, no religion, no countries involved. Why do you all try to make a conspiracy out of nothing. What, is the future movies of the week not good enough for you? To bad everyone spreading this crap did not pay respects for the people who died., Make a donation to a charity Something positive.
Actually, he said there are others he was working with. It just depends how reliable what he says is.
But regardless of why, it is a great tragedy for Norway.
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