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Proof Liberals Hate The American People

  1. lady_love158 profile image60
    lady_love158posted 5 years ago

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- … ht-to-hell

    It's pretty clear Waters hates Americans that don't share her radical views, telling them they can go straight to h***! Really Maxine? The poster girl for unethical behaviour wants more of the tax payers money! Given how she's abused it in the past I don't see that as a good idea!!!

    1. Greek One profile image80
      Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'm guessing you agree 100 per cent with her other comments in the link, where she is growing tired of Obama?

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Well what took her sooo long? I've been tired of Obama since before he became president!

        1. Greek One profile image80
          Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Is it safe to say you were against Obama's presidency before you heard of him?

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No. It's safe to say you don't know when I knew about him, but then, liberals do assume so much.

            1. Greek One profile image80
              Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              you assume that I am a liberal... typical conservative trait lol

            2. cupajo profile image61
              cupajoposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Good gravy yes they do assume so much, to bad most of it is wrong

              1. Sourpuss profile image60
                Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Yeah--Obama made the assumption that the Tidiots would work with him for the good of the country...
                He had NO idea of the low-down scum he was encountering.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I dunno about lady_love, but personally I was against him only AFTER I watched him stand on a podium and tell America he wouldn't want his daughters "punished with a baby" and spout other wicked thoughts from his mouth.

            1. Sourpuss profile image60
              Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Could be worse...his daughters could be punished with a TeaTard for president!

    2. Sourpuss profile image60
      Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Really? Did she go on that trip to Israel too? On that 5 WEEK vacation Cantor Ryan and Boner ordered?
      Wonder how her constituents feel about her spending her time learning how to better serve Binnie the Rat?

      1. American View profile image59
        American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Time for you to get on the fact train, yours is obviously derailed.

        First, there are 3 seperate groups going, each group staying 1 week, not 5. Wow there are Democrats on the trip too. Guess you frogt to mention that.

        Washington -- U.S. Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle(D) plans to travel to Israel on Saturday, where she will spend a week meeting Israeli and Palestinian leaders and touring the region with other members of Congress. Buerkle is among more than 80 members of Congress -- both Republicans and Democrats -- who are visiting Israel in three separate groups during the August recess. U.S. Rep. Bill Owens, (D) Plattsburgh, was in the first group to visit last week.  Source-Politico

        1. Sourpuss profile image60
          Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Uhhuh...they go there rather than go home to their constituents...you call that caring for America, I call it something else.

          5 weeks vaca...on our dime for all of Congress, vs 10 days for Obama.

          Wonder why you blast Obama ,but give Cantor and Ryan a pass?

          1. American View profile image59
            American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            As you cannot read, I will school you again.

            They did go home, after their 1WEEK trip, they went home again. What is your problem? are you that hell bent you need to keep making things up despite being shown a left publications showing they only went for one week, and you continue to deny the Dems that went. And by the way, if you read the article, you would have seen it was not on the taxpayers dime.

            So why blast Obama? first I am not blasting him, he is entitled to a vaction as they all are. Whether you belive they do or not is a personal opinion. The difference here is Obama is at an estate for 10 days at a cost of $56,000 per week at the taxpayers expense. And yes, that is on our dime. That does not include all the security and other issues needed to keep him informed. By the way and on a seperate issue, he said he needed a vacation, but he is giving interviews at the same pace as if he was in the Whitehouse. So he should have stayed in Washington and kept giving speeches from there, it wold have been cheaper on the taxpayers. Now Bush went to his ranch, not an estate costing $56,000 per week. In addition at his ranch he turned several rooms, at his own expense, into a mini Whitehouse so he could stay informed and make decisions.

            Do you think it was wise to spend all that money at taxpayers expense when so many are unemployed and his policies are adding to our national debt at record pace? His vacation is adding to the National debt.

    3. IntimatEvolution profile image82
      IntimatEvolutionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Why did you title this thread this way?  I take offense.  My father served 3 tours in Vietnam.  His sacfrice and love for American has had a profound impact on my entire life.  Every one of the men in my immediate family (dad, grandpa, brother, uncles...) has served in every war since the great war.  I fiercely love this country and the people in it.  Your title- ultimately  stereotypes me and others like me, into a group in which I don't belong nor appreciate.  It's quite obnoxious of you really to be so careless with your words.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think its pretty clear, liberals luke Maxine Waters hate Americans, particularly Americans that don't share her views. 48% of Americans agree wirh the Tea Party on the issues facing this country and Waters told then they can all gi straight to hell. You don't take offense to that though? You don't take offense that your father fought for this country to preserve freedom and free speech only to have a congress woman of the USA tell it's citizens that voice their dissent they should go to hell? Personally I find that rather offensive!

        1. IntimatEvolution profile image82
          IntimatEvolutionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Your title doesn't mention Waters?  No your title says, "Proof liberals hate...."  no quotations used, so clearly you weren't quoting somebody.  So try again, why this title?  I am a liberal.  Your title says I and others like me hate Americans.  Explain this irresponsible manner of writing.

          1. Repairguy47 profile image60
            Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Do any liberals hate other Americans? I bet they do, I bet some posting here hate her simply because she has a different opinion. Title seems accurate to me given the vitriol I've read.

            1. IntimatEvolution profile image82
              IntimatEvolutionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Totally disagree.  The title speaks for everyone not just Waters and it's offensive.  It is what it is.

              1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                It says liberals hate the American people, are you saying they don't? You can speak for them all?

                1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
                  Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Now you are being pedantic. You remind me of TK who of course you wouldn't know.

                  1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                    Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I think I'm being precise. An edit, and you are correct I don't know TK.

                2. Randy Godwin profile image95
                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Do you think the OP can?  lol

                  1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                    Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I think she can spot a few haters, its not that hard.

                3. IntimatEvolution profile image82
                  IntimatEvolutionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  You clearly didn't read my first post where I made it clear I was only representing myself.  So back up jack and get your facts straight (when addressing me) before you start pretending to be so "precise."  What a joke.

            2. Uninvited Writer profile image84
              Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              See...i don't hate her and i never have said that. I hate no one. Just because i disagree with them politically. I have a problem with people who generalize.

              1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                You generalize, I generalize, we all generalize. Do you have any proof she is being paid to post on these forums? Is that just another tactic to marginalize?

                1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
                  Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I don't start posts attacking groups of people

                  1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                    Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    No you probably don't, and this isn't a thread doing that, no matter how hard you try to make it that way.

                2. Randy Godwin profile image95
                  Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Fine, ask her yourself and see how she replies.

      2. Randy Godwin profile image95
        Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Some folks are paid to be politically obnoxious, IE.  smile

        1. IntimatEvolution profile image82
          IntimatEvolutionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Ya....  I can see that.wink
          I tell you, what a load of crap this is.

      3. Repairguy47 profile image60
        Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You mean this post where you mention others like you? You are speaking for more than just you.

        1. IntimatEvolution profile image82
          IntimatEvolutionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Are you serious? Nevermind...

          This is stupid.

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      Old Empresarioposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      "Liberals hate the American people", eh? Well; aren't liberals American people too? Isn't that like accusing a doctor of hating all doctors because he happens to disagree (and perhaps hate) some of his colleagues?

      1. Repairguy47 profile image60
        Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No, not all liberals are American.

    5. cooldad profile image60
      cooldadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'm a liberal and I think Maxine Waters is pretty much a lunatic.  I also don't hate American people, just stupid American people, no matter how they classify themselves.  It would be nice if would could just classify people as "smart" or "not-smart" and forget all the rest.

  2. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago

    She's back...


    One person said one thing so it means she represents everyone? Maybe I read something different...I did not see her say she hated America?

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Please, no feeding.

      1. thooghun profile image86
        thooghunposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Must resist... vast sweeping generalizations....

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I know, it's very hard to resist.  Sometimes an intervention is needed.

    2. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The hate of the tea party has been vocaluzed by many on the left, reffering to us as terrorists holding the country hostage, and angry racists, and now this from Waters. The tea party isn't just some small group of extremists like many on the left think but a cross section of the majority of Americans.

      1. thisisoli profile image66
        thisisoliposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Actually the Tea Party is a small group of extremeists, it's formed of a small group of people who have extreme political viewpoints, if you read any of the stuff they have been posting recently I am not sure how you could see it any differently.

        1. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Extreme political viewpoints to whom? I think democrats have extreme political viewpoints, the difference is I want them to express their viewpoints and they don't want me to express mine.

          1. Daniel Carter profile image91
            Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Most people don't understand the difference of "expressing viewpoints" as opposed to arguing. Most of what happens in religion and politics is argument with vehement emotions. Rational, calm dialogs are usually rare. Expressing viewpoints is a lot different than what normally happens.

            My observation of the Tea Party is that they were an unpredicted backlash against the direction of present gov't. that forced some immediate change. While that is considered a good thing by most, it also became a band wagon for fundamentalists and extremists, which actually weakened its power to effect further change. In its present condition, the Tea Party is splattered, scattered, and at odds with itself because of the diversity of vehement, sometimes irrational opinions by so many people with their own personal agendas and motives. Until the party can focus on its specific platforms for change, this disarray will continue.

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Which extremists do you speak?

              1. Daniel Carter profile image91
                Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Karen N, above did a nice job of describing it. I'm not saying that the Tea Party is the only organization with extremists in it. They all have extremists. But usually extremists don't dictate party platform and policy. However, the Tea Party is a very new entity that hasn't had time to fully come into itself, and often fundamentalists and extremists are able to have more influence in the early stages. This is my observation of what's going on.

            2. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I disagree. Individuals opinions will always vary greatly regardless of the group they identify with. The tea party platform is very clear and very consistent.

              1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
                Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                They are playing you like a fiddle smile

                1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                  Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  You may want to read this http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawk … page/full/ You may understand you a little better.

                2. lady_love158 profile image60
                  lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Right. I'm a puppet of the Koch brothers and have no mind of my own ... must resist freedom and beg for enslavement and dependency! Lol!

                  1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                    Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Don't forget your gubmint cheese.

              2. Daniel Carter profile image91
                Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I think my point is still valid whether you agree or not. If there weren't any truth to my observation, then the left wouldn't accuse the Tea Party of being filled with extremists. But you certainly have the right to disagree.

                1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                  Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  You are very kind.

                  1. Daniel Carter profile image91
                    Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Thank you. My intent is to aim at being rational and logical instead of emotionally explosive, which seems to be the norm.

                2. lady_love158 profile image60
                  lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Which point? I only took issue with your view that the tea party message is scattered and splattered or co-opted by extremists. Where is the evidence to support that view? If that's your opinion, what's it based upon?

                  1. thooghun profile image86
                    thooghunposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    You could consider a grass-roots populist movement with no national leadership "scattered" by definition.

                    "An October 2010 Washington Post canvass of 647 local Tea Party organizers asked "which national figure best represents your groups?" and got the following responses: no one 34%, Sarah Palin 14%, Glenn Beck 7%, Jim DeMint 6%, Ron Paul 6%, Michele Bachmann 4%"

                    There quite a lot of interesting info on those polls: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sp … y-canvass/

        2. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Actually you couldn't be more WRONG! You must stop reading liberal websites like Huffpo, Daily Kos, and Moveon.org, the NYT, CNN, MSNBC, and the Wapo!

          http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … n_congress

          The tea party IS America! Interesting that most people don't agree with congress, yet they are elected to represent US!! I find that shocking!

          1. Karen N profile image38
            Karen Nposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            There are extremists in every party.
            Most tea party members that I know are peaceful law-abiding citizens.
            I really hate the fact that people are called raciest or violent if they have a different political view. I have Repubs, Democrats and Independents in my family and most of the time everyone manages to get along. smile

    3. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I haven't heard of any democrats condemning her for her remarks. This woman should be an embarrassment to democrats.

  3. Reality Bytes profile image93
    Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

    What happened to the civility that the President called for after a Representative was shot in the head?

    Oh how soon they forget!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If you mean the Democrats, they don't really forget.  They just back off a bit and wait for their chance to swoop in again.

  4. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago

    Glad they renewed your contract Lady...every little bit helps

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Oh that's another nickel for the kitty! Lol!

  5. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    "I think some of our members may have thought the default issue was a hostage you might take a chance at shooting," he said. "Most of us didn't think that. What we did learn is this -- it's a hostage that's worth ransoming. And it focuses the Congress on something that must be done."<--Mitch McConnell


    What a darn liberal that guy is, eh?

    His colleagues who wanted to "shoot the hostage" were the Tea Party Congressmen and women...

    And we all know how "liberal" they are..

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Compared to most conservatives he is quite the liberal. What he really is is a professional politician, that's pretty bad.

    2. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      What he meant was the establishment repubs were more afraid of getting blamed and losing their jobs than doing what was right for the country. As a result of "compromise" we got another bad bill, a downgrade, and another unconstitutional committee to do the job that congress won't do!

  6. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    So, the excuse is that he's not "conservative" enough....he's at least part liberal, which is what made him make that statement?

    Ludicrous...

    This thread is nothing but blatant hypocrisy on behalf of "conservatives"...

    Note how I put apostrophes around "conservative"...this is because they aren't...

    As long as the GOP controls government they will spend away...  It's only a bad thing when it is their political opposition in charge...

    1. ThoughtSandwiches profile image85
      ThoughtSandwichesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Hi everyone...not here to comment...just observe...you know...research stuff.  Please continue...

    2. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'm not making excuses for him, he isn't conservative enough for me however. If that is bothersome to you I apologize.

  7. ThoughtSandwiches profile image85
    ThoughtSandwichesposted 5 years ago

    hmmm...<scribbling notes>...

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    Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago

    lady_love, I tried following that link,  found the video but then my computer said "operation aborted".   Reckon there's a liberal internet cleanup on Maxine Waters' aisle?   I can see it now----them scurrying to cover up her vile words.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Aborted ?  Damn liberals mad

    2. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes the video is "unavailable" for some reason but if you goggle it you might find it on another site. It was on all the real news programs this morning and I'm sure it will be disscussed tonight.

    3. thooghun profile image86
      thooghunposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Its the liberal firewall!

  9. Sourpuss profile image60
    Sourpussposted 5 years ago

    I agree with Maxine! The Baggers can go straight to hell. Don't pass go, don't collect 200 dollars---just prepare to meet your maker. And you know who that is wink
    It's the opposite of God.

    Should be hot down there too....make sure Glenny-Boy Beck brings plenty of water. He'll need it. That mouth will burn for all eternity.

  10. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    Lady, I didn't ask you to tell me your translation of what McConnell said... 

    His use of language was the point... Don't try to twist the conversation away...  All you do is contradict yourself...

    With this said, I just got finished watching poor O'Reilly blunder through his show today. After a diatribe rife with blather about Obama's "vacation" and filled with blame on the President for all of America's economic woes he claimed that anyone who opposed his viewpoint was "misguided"...

    He was then tag teamed by both of his guests...one a touted CEO/investor/entrepreneur, and the other a well known economist Ben Stein...

    After dear old Bill tried to get them to agree with him, they both undermined all the points he had tried to make about the President's blame and drag on the economy, and then both supported increased taxation on those making over 1 million dollars per year... 

    After very plainly making their points, O'Reilly said that he refused to believe what they were saying and went to commercial break...

    He is the only misguided one...and it is sad that so many Americans can't see past his obvious stupidity and arrogance... 

    The man is delusional...

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Right... he's stupid and delusional just like all ivy league graduates that don't share your views.

  11. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    There's nothing like a cool, relaxing waterboarding to take your mind off your troubles...

  12. Sourpuss profile image60
    Sourpussposted 5 years ago

    Followed by a few cigarette burns to the arm and a swim in the excrement pool.
    Then, a vigorous joust with savage dogs to get the blood flowing.

    So nice to belong to a civilized world order.

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Why can't liberals stick to the subject? Why do liberals have this tendency to fly off on tin hat tangents? I was at a party this weekend talking to another angry liberal and he was all over the map! Maybe thats why Obama and the dems are such miserable failures... they just cant focus on anything!

      1. Sourpuss profile image60
        Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Did I miss something? Am I a Liberal? I don't recall making that statement. Guess you just ass-u-me-d. Like most reactionary's.
        And tush tush--this thread is about Liberals Hating American People....

        I was just showing you why people subject to your soul-less leaders might have that same feeling.
        Or maybe you should give Liberals the same lee-way you offer yourself: Love the sinner, Hate the sin.

        1. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          That's a valid question why can't liberals stick to the subject? Whether you are a liberal or not isn't as important as why you foam at the mouth while typing. You should think of your health.

          1. Sourpuss profile image60
            Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            The subject-matter is a flaming pile of doodoo. You should think of the health of others that have to come in contact with that pile.

  13. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    Why do you live in a world of grand generalizations and stereotypes?

    Why can't you not contradict yourself constantly...  You just ran away from the McConnell statement, and the fact...not innuendo...that he was referring to the Tea-brained in his quote about "shooting the hostage"...

    Sometimes it is sad to see some things, or people, don't change...

    Then again, the poor Lady is just doing the job she is getting paid to do...

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Lol! Another nickel for the kitty! I wonder why critical thinking isn't taught in college these days?

  14. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    So you are saying that your problem is that you went to university?

    Your hypothesis also explains poor O'Reilly

  15. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    Maxine seems to be angry at everyone these days. I don't think our leaders should use language like she did. And yes, I'm talking about BOTH parties and all who engage in it, including Rick Perry!

  16. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    Lady doesn't understand the actual meaning or implication of the word "liberal"... 

    Her special training in LimBeckistan didn't allow for critical thinking...

    1. habee profile image92
      habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Did Limbeckistan ever gain its independence from Pakistan??

  17. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    No....it's still a pipedream of Pakistani ISI working in conjunction with those "patriots" over at Dyncorp...

  18. junko profile image78
    junkoposted 5 years ago

    Lady love sounds like Mason

  19. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    They both sound (and write hubs) like Sab Oh...

    They are clones from the same funny farm..

    http://lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/palinlooneytunes1.jpg

    1. mortimerjackson profile image60
      mortimerjacksonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I didn't know that I hated American people. My God. I'm learning new things about myself everyday.

  20. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001116083/liberalvsconservative2_xlarge.jpeg

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Oh yes, we have all seen how "tolerant" liberals have been of republucans and the tea party from garafolo, to maher, to waters, weiner, reid, pelosi, to schummer, and debbie blabbermouth shultz, all sooo tolerant! To all of them "compromise" means giving up on your principles and going along with what they want.. oh and Obama is no better, a narcissistic mud slinging incompetent fool and a total failure! If he really loves this country he'll step down and ride off into the sunset!

  21. Sourpuss profile image60
    Sourpussposted 5 years ago

    Hopefully,he'll have enough clout to steal the election like Bush did....twice!

    Nah, on second thought, why stoop to their level?
    Leave that to us internetters.

    Vote your principle and on the merits.
    No amount of shpin and shpeil can stop anyone from doing that!

    It's funny--maybe it's immunity or something, but when I see a bash or a smear now, it just makes me laugh!

    Somebody mentioned Fog-Horn Leg-Horn the other day. Remember how he used to hold that little hawk at bay while the hawk was swinging and missing to beat the band?
    Eventually, the hawk tired out and his swings became irrelevant.

    Keep it coming: socialist, hater,incompetant, inexperieced, terrorist, coke-head, gay, muslim, not born here, non-citizen, blah blah blah....

    Like water off a duck's back.

    SQUAAAAAWK!

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So winning the required electoral votes is now stealing? The democrat keys to success are 1)Fail to win needed electoral votes. 2)Ask for recount. 3)Lose recount vote. 4)File lawsuit and whine everyday until people get tired of it then whine some more. 5)Get an incompetent lower court to see things your way. 6)Have a competent court undo what the incompetent court did. 7)Continue the untruth that an election was stolen. Seems to be a lot of work for nothing.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        http://files.sharenator.com/nailed_it_Wow_You_Nailed_It-s404x404-223332-580.jpg

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        Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        "Seems to be a lot of work for nothing."

        That's what Liberals are ALL about.

      3. Sourpuss profile image60
        Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        "So winning the required electoral votes is now stealing?"

        No silly!! It's having a relative that owns Diebolt voting machines, plenty of "soldiers' who don't mind lying, cheating and ruffing people up for you, and a brother in a state who's Supreme Court gives the election to you!!

        My goodness, electoral votes....how quaint.

        1. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You sure have some facts wrong, Florida Supreme court ruled in Gores favor. And what possible difference would the voting machines make? The complaint was the ballot was confusing. What soldiers were doing the roughing up and lying? Do you need a hug?

          1. Sourpuss profile image60
            Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            "Palast's investigation into the Bush family fortunes for his column in The Observer led him to uncover a connection to a company called ChoicePoint. In an October 2008 interview Palast said that before the 2000 Election ChoicePoint "was purging the voter rolls of Florida under a contract with a lady named Katherine Harris, the Secretary of State. They won a contract, a bid contract with the state, with the highest bid."[9]


            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Palas … _Elections


            Electronic Voting: The Stolen Election of 2004
            by Larry Chin
            Online Journal, 5 November  2004

            http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHI411B.html

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              And? Allegations and alleged emails don't impress me, nor does the blog.

              1. Sourpuss profile image60
                Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Nothing said or written or proved against Bush will ever impress you. That's why they always get away with everything.

                But let me tell you,the rest of the world is not so blind.

                We are still dumb as clucks....
                Ready to even consider MORE of the same!!!

                1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                  Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  When anything at all is proven let me know.

                  1. Sourpuss profile image60
                    Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    He and Cheney admitted to torturing prisoners, against the Geneva convention and the law.
                    Donald Rumsfeld authorized "excessive force techniques", which really amounted to Savagery and Sadism.

                    He is being sued by an American citizen who was tortured in Iraq under his rule.
                    ***

                    And we won't even get into 9/11.....that much is too much for you to handle. Baby steps.

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          Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Still harping on an election you think was stolen but was not? Good, Lord!!!!

          Come on, Sourpuss, I invite to join us in the year 2011.

          You should know as well I the country was in much better hands after the attacks of 9/11 than they would have been if Gore had won. That idiot couldn't find his own butt with both hands and map. He would have been curled up in a fetal position in the presidential bunker, sobbing like a baby.

          Another good thing came out of that election. Gore retired from politics, was no longer VP, and was thankfully no longer my senator. He didn't even carry his home state of Tennessee in the 2000 election, Sourpuss.

          Now, come on up to 2011 with the rest of us and lets more forward, getting Obama out of office in 2012 and putting this country back on track.

          1. Sourpuss profile image60
            Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I don't wish to go backwards....I'll pass.

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              Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Going forward Obama style isn't an option either....I'll fight.

  22. Daniel Carter profile image91
    Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago

    When anyone continually places blame on others, it is a symptom of their denial to accept that they are victims who have given up their personal power. Thus, they can claim that others have robbed them, victimized them, and claim that they are entitled to restitution. In political and religious arenas this appears to be rampant. It seems in these circles that most only want to blame instead of evaluate their own motives and agendas where good actually starts. As long as blame and hostility continue, the world will continue to be broken. When each individual is willing to lay down their weapons and start a pattern of promoting good, then it will inspire others to do the same. Until that happens, we are faced with the same insanity that we continue to see now.

  23. ThoughtSandwiches profile image85
    ThoughtSandwichesposted 5 years ago

    Good form Daniel.  mmmm...gubmint cheese...

  24. 0
    Longhunterposted 5 years ago

    Lady Love,

    Not to put word in your mouth but you forgot one very important word in your opening.

    "It's pretty clear Waters hates WHITE Americans that don't share her radical views, telling them they can go straight to h***! Really Maxine?"

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'm pretty sure she hates Herman Cain too!

  25. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    For the sake of argument I'll be a liberal. What am I all about?

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I don't know. What are you all about?

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thats the trap libs here use. They get you to state your opinion then complain to the moderator to get you banned. Yeah, they're "tolerant" but only of people they agree with.

  26. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    "I don't think it is an extremist movement however. Though personally I find the birther movement laughable." All you have to know is who funds what.
    No matter what it appears like the funding is what it is.

    1. thooghun profile image86
      thooghunposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I find that the power of the Tea Party, precisely because because it is decentralized is the fact that it is a popular movement. 87% of the funding was raised locally because of this, most of these are informal groups. Only 10% of the funding comes from national organizations.

      The source is the same as I used above. It seems like a typical grassroots movement to me. I'm sure there are shades at the edges, but compared to the Clintons and such, it truly is a breath of fresh air (n.b I'm not a fan of the tea party movement).

  27. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    Well I would wonder if the teaparty is not funded by corporations, why is it have an almost completely
    pro-corporation agenda.

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Because they are capitalists. Just a thought.

    2. thooghun profile image86
      thooghunposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, don't get me wrong, I absolutely agree with your statement. Pfizer, ConocoPhillips, Lockheed Martin, JPMorgan Chase, Dow Chemical and Rolls-Royce and the usual Koch Brothers are all lining up as well. But it is inherent to any political party (I could easily research and list the same for anyone). Where money is concerned, interests align. It's politics.

    3. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No. It has a pro freedom agenda. You know private property rights? Or do you believe everything belongs to government?

      1. Repairguy47 profile image60
        Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think what he believes is since his side dances to the tune of who pays everybody does.

      2. Sourpuss profile image60
        Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The most private property in THE WORLD is my body....and they want the gvt to own that!

        Sorry...freedom is the last thing you can attribute to the TP movement.

        Freedom to be just like them, that's about it.

        Think like them, believe like them, and most important, Hate Obama like them.

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          Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          "The most private property in THE WORLD is my body....and they want the gvt to own that!"

          You've got it backwards, Sourpuss. Liberals are the ones that want big government to have control over everything, not Conservatives. We want small, unintrusive government. Conservatives are grown up so we don't need nannies to take care of us. We know how to do that ourselves.

          1. TMMason profile image75
            TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I would imagine sour is making that same old lame argument about "my body and abortion"... blah blah.

            Old and useless.

            I cannot wait till we over-turn Roe-v-Wade.

            1. Sourpuss profile image60
              Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              "You will have that baby by order of the State".....

              Fascist Tyranny. As usual.

          2. AnnCee profile image78
            AnnCeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Amazing disconnect.  Liberals always whine about conservatives forcing them to have babies and getting into their bedrooms.

            But they want a liberal government to crawl right up their http://telligent.com/files/media/docs/Images/CS5/Users/emoticon-zipit1.png.

            http://www.moonbattery.com/obamacare-suppository.jpg

            1. TMMason profile image75
              TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Anncee.

              You have that link for that other site you were talking about?

              1. AnnCee profile image78
                AnnCeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this
                1. TMMason profile image75
                  TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I am in.

                  Thanks, AnnCee.

                2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  A circle-jerk for Teabaggers.  What will they think up next?

            2. Greek One profile image80
              Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              not as hard as this...

              http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01971/Bachmann-Corn-Dog_1971513c.jpg

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                Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Are you projecting your wants off on others now, Greek?

            3. Sourpuss profile image60
              Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Tell you what...we can do away with Healthcare for all when we get rid of mandatory car insurance.

          3. Sourpuss profile image60
            Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Pro-choice, or anti-abortion?

            That is all I need to know.

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              Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              READ CAREFULLY TO GET IT ALL:

              No, I don't believe in abortion, Sourpuss. When I felt my daughter move when I placed my hand on her mother's stomach, that was it for me.

              However, I also think it's none of my business what a woman does with her body unless the baby she's carrying is mine.

              I hope that answers your question. Anything else?

              1. Sourpuss profile image60
                Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                That is not the platform of the Republican party, or I suspect, the TP. They are anti-abortion, and want to repeal Roe v Wade.

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                  Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  That's the great thing about America, Sourpuss. I, nor you, have to agree with everything a particular party spews. We can have a difference of opinion, at least for the time being. I'm just one of the ones that wants to make sure it stays that way.

        2. American View profile image59
          American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hey Sour, got news for you, Government owns you under Obamacare. Go read it

          1. Sourpuss profile image60
            Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Obama is pro-choice, as is the Dem platform. I have nothing to fear from them. I am free in my own person. Your side, however, wants to put me in bondage to the State.

            1. American View profile image59
              American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Keep believing that. You will be like others who said I was nuts when I told then what was in Obamacare because I read it. You will come back and say he was right. Pro choice, not under Obamacare.

              1. Sourpuss profile image60
                Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                He will force me to give birth too???

                1. American View profile image59
                  American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  You need to read it.

                2. Moderndayslave profile image60
                  Moderndayslaveposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Gee, I wonder what it actually say's." Because I read it "doesn't cut it. 2000 + pages of legalese? How does it own us?

                  1. American View profile image59
                    American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Actually,1,578 pages. And if you read it you know

                  2. American View profile image59
                    American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    And if you really read it, you should now why union members have something to be concerned about.

                    By the way, how is your retirement fund these day. Unions now committing another 400 Million dollars to the Election cycle above what they spen so far with the hopes of possibly giving and raising an extra $600 million so Obama can have $2 Billion for his recelction and for the Dem congressman as well. You know those funds are not coming from your dues

  28. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    I would wager it is because she doesn't understand the implications of her actions or the meanings of the words she uses....  But then, by her own definition (seen in the title of her following forum thread) she would be a "liberal" too....

    Whatever she is getting paid to post here, it is far too much...

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      True, that is why we shouldn't respond to her baiting threads in the future, i know i won't.

      She is not willing to listen to anyone who disagrees with her. I like debate but just throwing out insults does not make for conversation.

      1. Repairguy47 profile image60
        Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think she has proven she is willing to listen, all I hear from your side is that she is being paid to post. Do any of you have any proof of that?

  29. Uninvited Writer profile image84
    Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago

    Again...ONE person stating her opinion...she can be voted out if people disagree with her. She also has freedom of speech and can criticize whomever she wants as you can.

    By the way, where do you get 48% from?

  30. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 5 years ago

    People shouldn't fall for this kind of bait. Why feed threads that are so pointless?

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image84
      Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You are right...i won't be in the future...i have a life...really, I do smile

  31. Ralph Deeds profile image71
    Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago

    Scientific proof liberals are more intelligent than conservatives--
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the … servatives

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Good source! smile

    2. 0
      Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Hmmm, Liberals stroking the egos of other Liberals.

      Why doesn't that surprise me?

      Please tell me something. If Liberals are so intelligent, why do they want to be able to do what they want, when they want, where they want, with whomever they want but then don't have a problem giving all their rights over to a big nanny government?

      Don't they understand once they give away all their rights so that big nanny government will take care of them they want be allowed to do what they want, when they want, where they want, with whomever they want?

      If Liberals are supposedly so intelligent, why can't they figure that out?

      Conservatives figured that out a long time ago.

    3. AnnCee profile image78
      AnnCeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this
  32. AnnCee profile image78
    AnnCeeposted 5 years ago

    Ah gee it's all falling apart.  I guess fundamentally changing a country isn't as easy as it looked in Obama's pipe dream.

    http://thefreshscent.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/obama-smoke.png

    Hiya, Lady.  smile


    http://www.letstalkpolitics.proboards.com/index.cgi

    1. TMMason profile image75
      TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      But it all seemed so easy when he was in that crack house smoking up thinking it through.

      Why do you think it is the news hasn't put out a reward for one of Obama's old crack dealers, or smoking partners, to come forward with the story?

      I would like to hear all about his crack dayz...

      And anyone with an ounce of intelligence understands the American Left and Progressives despise this nation and all it stands for.

      1. mikelong profile image83
        mikelongposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What a loon this Mason is...just like his avatar...

        Some things never change...

        Shall we also discuss McCarthy's morphine addiction, and how he was able to get a free lifetime supply of his favorite dope?  (source "The Murderers")

        Mason was hot on the heels of G.W.Bushies white powder dealer as well...

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._ … ontroversy

        Let's see....Bush was arrested for possession of cocaine...but daddy gets the record expunged...

        I wonder who Bush was snorting it up with....and what else they were up to...

        But Mason wouldn't be interested in these stories... They actually require critical thought...

        1. TMMason profile image75
          TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Dude... I am no Bush fan... please.

          And I cannot help the man smoked crack. Also, that was my point, the double standard as to everyone needing to peg ole george for his coke habit while Obama admits to smoking crack... and it's no biggie. I believe they are looking for sex partners for Perry also. What a laugh.

          So try to keep up, Mike.

          Also, I do not believe that trying coke dis-qualified Bush, nor does trying crack dis-qualify Obama. I am not a hard ass on the drug thing Mike. It is their boidies and minds, as loing as they are not craking up or snorting in the white house on the jobs.

          Simple.

          And the McCarthy thing is old news... so whats your point? he drank too... and gambled... wow... imagine that.

          lol you're a riot.

          And you know nothing about my interests.

          1. Greek One profile image80
            Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            he drank and gambled too? 

            maybe i was all wrong on the guy!?!?!

          2. mikelong profile image83
            mikelongposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Poor Mason....

            You can run away from Bush....but if I checked your voting record I think we'll find you voted for him twice...

            I don't see any articles you have written about his narcotics abuse, nor have you written any forum threads about it...

            You deride Obama for his mistakes, but you do it as you use an avatar personifying a man who had far worse errors of judgement, and who truly abused the power he held...

            I didn't say McCarthy drank to much and gambled.... I said he was illegally using morphine...and using his political power to make sure he didn't have to hit up a dealer for his next fix...  How did he manage to get a lifetime supply of his favorite narcotic?

            That is much different... Way to go avoiding the topic again...

            Ducking and dodging the only way you can...but it isn't good enough...

            Your hypocrisy knows no bounds...

            1. TMMason profile image75
              TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Being forced to vote for someone in this system and actually supporting them, are two very different things.

              And as to your picking on Obama... I am pointing out hypocrisy in the media and by Leftists... so nice try on the spin.

              And McCathy was absolutely correct in all his assertions against those he had in his sights for being traitors... and they were. We know now his claims were correct and fact. 

              It is a historic fact that McCarthy was right.

        2. Sourpuss profile image60
          Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          "I wonder who Bush was snorting it up with....and what else they were up to..."

          I do know 2 of his girlfriends had abortions.

    2. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      HI Ann! I have to get back over to that forum but its just so profitable here! Why yesterday after 10 hours of posting I made almost 5 dollars!!! Lol! Good to see ya!

  33. AnnCee profile image78
    AnnCeeposted 5 years ago

    That woman needs a better handler.  http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww202/MJB10001/All%20Smileys/75_75.gif

    1. Greek One profile image80
      Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      looks like she is a good handler herself!

  34. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    Actually....it isn't...

    He has been (historically) shown to be, at best, a political crackpot who only got to where he was based on fearmongering and namesmearing...

    Why do you dodge the illegal narcotics (opiates to be exact) that your savior (and avatar) used... You brought up drugs...

    Poor guy...

    1. TMMason profile image75
      TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Go back and read my other post on my feelings toward drugs...

      And unfortunately for the Left McCarthy has indeed shown to have been perfectly correct in his claims.

      Denial does no good against the facts, dude.

      History has shown McCarthy to have been absolutely correct. All those he named, were indeeed Communist actives, KGB moles and Socialist/Communist supporters, all of which were actively helping to undermine American foriegn policy.

      That is just a fact. Too bad. VENNONA, the KGB, FBI, Commintern, GRU, State Dept, OSS, OWI, Senate and Executive records, all prove the facts as McCarthy claimed, were true.

      Liberal lies and denial cannot hide the truth anymore.

  35. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    Nonsense...

    1. TMMason profile image75
      TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No.

      It is History.

  36. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    "In 1935 McCarthy tried practicing law in several Wisconsin towns, earning a reputation as a fierce gambler along the way. He also began playing the game of politics. After an unsuccessful bid as Democratic candidate for district attorney, he shifted his focus and became the Republican candidate for circuit court judge. He won, and at the age of twenty-nine he became the state's youngest circuit court judge. This victory also hinted at his later methods: He had lied in his campaign literature about his opponent's age (adding seven years to it) and about his own (moving his birth date back). By now, his basic personality was well shaped—clever and ambitious but lacking moral judgment, or the ability to distinguish between right and wrong."

    http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Josep … arthy.aspx

    http://books.google.com/books?hl=en& … mp;f=false

    Actual history.....

    Keep trying Herr McCarthy....  You have failed again...

    1. TMMason profile image75
      TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Oh please... lol..

      So what? Politics is a dirty game.

      What a joke. that has absolutely no bearing on his pointing out security risks in the Govt., as was his job.

      There has never been a lick of proof that he intentionally lied. He won an election and the establishment didn't like it... the incumbant ;lost and whined. Too bad.

      Go read some real history.

      In 1943, the Venona Project began. It's goal was to break the Soviet Unions diplomatic codes. After 2 years, the project was a sucess.

      What Venona prooved was that were indeed persons activly working against the USA and to benifit the Soviet Union. Many people that McCarthy refused to "name" were former members of the Communist Party and in positions where they had access to classified materials. And the Govt already had possession of the same lists, the Lee List etc... as ole Joe. But Joe wanted them all investigated first and named only if they were proven to be subversives. Call it inocent untill proven guilty.

      Here's what one historian has to say about the subject:

      The release of [the Venona papers] would have nipped McCarthyism in the bud, for the true facts about real spies would have made wild accusations about imaginary [sic] spies irrelevant. Only in the absence of Venona could McCarthy feed on collective fears regarding immense conspiracies and treacherous leaders. Venona would have revealed unstinted spying, abetted by the American [Communist] Party. It would have led to the prosecution of disloyal public servants. It would have stifled the outcry that Communists were the innocent victims of Red-baiting and witch-hunts, and shown that McCarthy was inconsequential to the issue he rode to fame.

      Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Chairman of the bipartisan Commission on Government Secrecy, responsible for securing the release of Venona project materials, in the Introduction to his book Secrecy states, "The Venona intercepts contained overwhelming proof of the activities of Soviet spy networks in America, complete with names, dates, places, and deeds." The release involved careful consideration of privacy interests of individuals mentioned, referenced, or identified in the translations. Some names have not been released when to do so would constitute an invasion of privacy. Over 200 named or covernamed persons found in the VENONA translations, persons then present in the U.S., are claimed by the KGB and the GRU in their messages as their clandestine assets or contacts.

      <<http://www.conservapedia.com/List_of_Americans_in_the_Venona_papers>>

      Yes... McCarthy was absolutely correct!

      Fact of History.

      1. Greek One profile image80
        Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yup... just like the folks in Salem..

        http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_aRE25RtcVM8/TMsKtsOMvmI/AAAAAAAADms/Y3T6Lb81vSQ/s1600/witch-hunt11.jpg

  37. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    He was a liar, fraud, and opportunist...

    You obviously failed to read the second link I posted (in fact I would wager you didn't get past the partial quotation I made).. So I'll post the second link again..

    http://books.google.com/books?hl=en& … mp;f=false

    There's more, of course...

    http://books.google.com/books?id=Xml4Mo … mp;f=false

    We can do this all day....

    Mr. McCarthy's delusion and paranoia probably had something to do with his cronic alcohol and drug abuse.... 

    I liken much of Cold War mentality with that of the Salem Witch Trials...


    In a nation where we have the right to say and believe what we think, old Joe's mentality and abuse of government authority (for example, during the Taft-Hartley debate, demanding that union shops deny membership to those thought to be communists) shows the hypocrisy of the entire process....

    They were afeared of the government of the USSR....a state dominated by the government, that he in turn created a similar environment here....

    I wonder what old Joe would have thought of the Israeli-Egyptian conflict in the early 70's....  Would he have jumped on the Kissinger b.s. wagon talking about the 40,000 Soviet Marines in the Eastern Med waiting to assist the cut-off Egyptian troops...  Would he have used the media to lie to the American people and create a crisis that didn't exist?  (Oh those liberals control the media all right..) 

    Yes...he would have....

    Espionage was taking place everywhere...  The Venona project itself shows this to be true...  Based on the information I have seen up to this point, regarding communist agents, the intelligence was hit or miss...  I hope to live to see the declassification of the HUAC files and other information that will definitely demystify that part of American history...

    It's too bad that we have evidently been deemed "incapable" of having this material now...

    McCarthy's character speaks for itself... His motives were for his own selfish self at the cost of everyone else...and his own life...  Though he may have found himself on the right side of an issue (on very few occasions), it is him in his entirety that is being described....

    He was a loser, a liar, a charlatan, a megalomaniac, a fearmongerer, and a hypocrite...

  38. Moderndayslave profile image60
    Moderndayslaveposted 5 years ago

    I have a book: Legacy of Ashes,The history of the CIA, that states McCarthy was set up by the Cia. Some one is full of it.

  39. Sourpuss profile image60
    Sourpussposted 5 years ago

    I did not deny dems went there....in fact, I yelled at Waters if she did!
    What business do they have going on a trip that a foreign nation pays for? What is expected in return?  Who do they work for anyway?
    You say Obama should stay in Washington? At least he stayed in the USA! And elBushbo always went to the ranch or Camp David...did you ream him for it? Ole lady Reagan still has protection doesn't she? Don't they all? Would you like it if all R's kept their Secret Service, but Obama gave his up? They all add to the debt. So do Boner's martini lunches.....AND?

    And I hate to tell you this, but our aid to Israel is adding to the national debt too.....and they aren't even AMERICANS!!!!!

    How would you feel if 82 members of Congress accepted a paid trip to Iran?

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      Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Israel is an ally and friend to the United States. Iran is not. Iran is like the school yard bully that doesn't know when to shut up.

      Bush went to his ranch in Crawford so it only cost for the trip down and back. Security stays in place at Camp David so you're talking about the cost of a Marine One flight up and back.

      Obama and family are staying in a $50,000 a week estate on Martha's Vineyard.  The president flew on one jet with his dog and four hours later the wife and girls flew up on a special jet.

      Michelle "Antoinette" Obama has spent $10 MILLION on her vacations including expensive food and booze. Don't believe me, click on the link.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … tions.html

      When most Americans are struggling to make end meet, she's spending taxpayers dollars hand over fist.

      Doesn't that piss you off, Sourpuss? If it doesn't, I don't want to read another word about a few Congress people going on a trip to Israel.

      Also, Obama hasn't given up his protection detail. A sitting president can't do that.

      1. American View profile image59
        American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Sour was given a link earlier he is ignoring. He knows if he read it the Israel trip did not cost the taxpayers anything

        1. Sourpuss profile image60
          Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Not cost us? Who pays their salary? You saying Bibi paid for everything they did over there? Doubtful.
          And I don't care...they have no business accepting the favors of another country.Especially another country that has them in the palm of their hand. Above and beyond America's own interest!!!

          It is NOT the United States of Israel!

          1. American View profile image59
            American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Bibi?  You obviously did not read it or do not understand what you read

      2. Sourpuss profile image60
        Sourpussposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Israel is no friend to the USA. It uses us like chattel. And I don't like being associated with thugs and merciless murderers.

        And no, I don't give a dam how much money the POTUS and FLOTUS spend....WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY PROBLEMS IN THE USA.

        We have a HOARDING problem.

        Don't you remember Nancy Reagan? That lady LOVED to spend money. No one said a word.

        Difference is, the Obamas want EVERYBODY to have money to spend, you R's just want to contain it to the very tippy-top.

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          Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          "And I don't like being associated with thugs..."
          But yet you have no problem standing behind Obama? He's nothing but a two-bit Chicago thug with a good title.

          "WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY PROBLEMS IN THE USA"
          REALLY?!?!?!?!?!? You need to climb out of Oscar's trash can, take a look around, and talk to some people other than puppets.

          Difference is, the Obamas want EVERYBODY to have money to spend, you R's just want to contain it to the very tippy-top.
          Yeah, they want to take money from hardworking people and give it to people who are too lazy to work even in a good economy. I don't know about you but I work 60-70 hours a week, six days a week. Not a huge deal. A lot of people do it. But in doing it, I want to keep my money and use it to pay MY bills.

          How old are you, Sourpuss?

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            You're wasting your time with her. Her mind is made up. Its not fair that anyone in this country has more than anyone else, we should all be equally miserable, except the rulung elite who remain in power to ensure "fairness".

            http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/48500/American-Socialism--48649.jpg

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              Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Sourpuss is a woman? Man, I misread that one.

              I'll keep working on him/her. I love a challenge.

              1. lady_love158 profile image60
                lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Good luck with that! It won't be easy trying to convince a sourpuss! Lol

      3. John Holden profile image61
        John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Daily Mail! Wow it must be true then!

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          Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it untrue, John. And why don't you have a problem with Michelle "Antoinette" spending that much of OUR money? Aaaah, I know. She's a Dem so it's okay. Right?

          1. John Holden profile image61
            John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Well no, it's because I'm a Brit and know how low the Daily Wail actually is.

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              Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              My bad. I should have checked your location. But if your PM wife was doing the same, wouldn't upset you?

              1. John Holden profile image61
                John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                It depends on whether the Daily Mail reported it, or a proper newspaper.

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                  Longhunterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Okay, lets say a "proper paper" reported your PM's wife had spent $10 million in your tax dollars on trips, food, and alcohol. What would your opinion be then?

                  1. John Holden profile image61
                    John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Then first I'd want confirmation of that, rather than just a report. I'd want to know how one person managed to spend $10 million on trips, food and alcohol, it does sound rather excessive!

                2. lady_love158 profile image60
                  lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  2 plus 2 equals 4 no matter what source that calculation appears in. Attacking the source is a common tactic of the left. Doing so avoids having to confront the truth. It chages the subject and serves to deflect the debate. A fact, is a fact until it's not.

                  1. John Holden profile image61
                    John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I see your vacation has not improved your powers of reasoning!

                    The Daily Wail is renowned for taking 2 + 2 and making 7. It does not deal in facts, it deals in alarmism.
                    You should try confronting the truth yourself. The real truth that is, not your right wing idea of what the truth is.

  40. lady_love158 profile image60
    lady_love158posted 5 years ago

    I have to say, taking a separate plane to fly to Martha's Vineyard for her vacation is excesdive by any measure! She couldn't wait 3 hours more to travel with her husband? Really? This country is hurting and Michelle is basically taking a piss on us!

    1. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Even if it is true, how much difference is it going to make to any sane and sensible person?

      Hey maybe the old man was on a "I'll get there when I can" ticket, "you go on ahead and I'll get there when I can". And it just so happened that he could make it the same day.

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Its perception and its not the first time for her either. Remember her trip to spain with 40 of her "friends"?
        http://m.cbsnews.com/blogsfullstory.rbm … ofeed=null

    2. John Holden profile image61
      John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, you could have bought another 5 cruise missiles for that, that would have been good wouldn't it?

      1. lady_love158 profile image60
        lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thats right! Just think how many Islamic terrorists we could have made martyrs out of!

        1. John Holden profile image61
          John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Or how many peaceful Muslims you could have turned into terrorists.

          1. lady_love158 profile image60
            lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Right... like the peaceful muslims that raped Lara Logan in Egypt or the peaceful muslims that performed "virginity" tests on the women there or the peaceful muslims that killed the dutch cartoonist, or the ones that made death threats against David Letterman or the ones that rioted and killed their own people when a FL preacher threatend to burn the koran, or the peace muslims that are killing and persecuting christians everyday, just because they are christian? Those peaceful muslims? As Bush said "Bring it on"!

            1. mikelong profile image83
              mikelongposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              How many Muslims are in the world?

              The vast majority of Muslims are beyond the scope of your description...and comprehension evidently

              Lackluster Lady, as usual....

              (Evidently she doesn't know any Muslims herself)

  41. mikelong profile image83
    mikelongposted 5 years ago

    By the way Lady, you have avoided answering in the "Understanding" thread...

    Have you found out which U.S. military units are on the ground in Libya?

    Have you found a reasonable way to compare a 1 billion dollar, foreign fought conflict (Libya) and a 1.5 trillion dollar, hundreds of thousands of troops, go it alone (or just about..the Brits don't really count in this case) "long hard slog" (Iraq)?

 
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