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As Americans, have we forgot who we are and what we stand for?

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    Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago

    By reading forum post or watching the news one can easily answer this question.  As a nation we face so many problems because we have lost a sense of who we are and have become divided as a result.  Our country has always stood for a free market, the Constitution, and freedom.  However, the courts and government in general, have perverted the Constitution and the principals that have made this such a great nation.  Many bash groups like the Tea Party who simply stand for the founding principals such as the Constitution, free markets, and fiscal responsibility.  The Tea Party is simply a group of Americans who have united so that their voice is heard.  While I am in no way affiliated with the Tea Party, I respect what they say, have done, and are doing.  I remind you that movements such as this have involvement from various political parties who support the ideals the United States was founded on and many throughout the United States history have lost their lives fighting to preserve.

    1. Greek One profile image78
      Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The KKK also thought they were preserving what was right about America.. just saying

      1. TMMason profile image73
        TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes those crazy racist DEMOCRATS most certainly did. As did the rest of the DEMOCRAT South.

        1. Greek One profile image78
          Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          now, now.. don't make this partisan, TM

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            TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I will try not to.

            I'll tell you what. i have to go to town for an hour or two... so you all have a good talk without partisanship and I will be back soon and we can let it all get going on.

            See you all in a few.

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        Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        yeah and so did the black panthers like during the voter intimidation deal during 2008.

        1. Greek One profile image78
          Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          yes, you are indeed right

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      lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      By "Americans"are you including liberals in that, because liberals arent really Americans but socialists posing as Americans. The rest of us have not lost sight of what America is or what shes become because of liberals!

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        Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        ... and with that, the entire center left of the political spectrum is cast aside as 'un-American' lol

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        Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with this!

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        Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with you nice lady!!!

        1. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          So liberal Americans are not Americans?
          Is this the basis for teen-mom's baby gramma Palins' "Real Americans" phrase?

          Cause when we asked about it, everyone said Oh no no no no no...she didn't mean the only real Americans are righty's like her.....

          Ooops, looks like she did...and you do too.

          So listen, your salary is paid by the gvt....can I have my fake money back?

      4. John Holden profile image61
        John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What utter claptrap.

        Do you have separate passports for those who aren't of the extreme right?

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No but we do have a place for liberals, GITMO, and a little waterboarding wouldn't hurt to remind them they are supposed to be Americans! Lol!

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            Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            @ LadyLove LOL GITMO and a little aquatic sporting action like waterboarding may help them or at least amuse us haha....

          2. John Holden profile image61
            John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            That would be almost amusing if I didn't think you were serious.

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Oh come on! Where's your sense of humor? I was only partly serious. Lol!

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              Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I am not being serious.....well I am for those who want to turn our nation into a socialist country....

              1. John Holden profile image61
                John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Have you never thought,if America were turned into a socialist country it would have to be the will of the majority.
                No way a handful of people could swing it and if it were the majority's wish, wouldn't you have to abide by it?

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                  Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  no I wouldnt abide by it......but then again I have seen war so whatever happens .....

                2. TMMason profile image73
                  TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  You would need a super or supra-majority, I believe, to disolve the Constitution, not a simple majority.

                  Do you even know about our country?

                  We are not a democracy you know. Mob rule, 51%, doesn't cut it here.

                  1. John Holden profile image61
                    John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I do know that it will not bend to the will of a handful of people.

                    Your statement that a supra majority would be needed backs up my claim that it would not be simple or easy to turn the US into a socialist country.

      5. daskittlez69 profile image79
        daskittlez69posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That is one of the most ludicrous statements I have heard on the forums.  And that is saying something.  Wouldn't Americans be people living in America.  People from all different spectrum's,  religions, political affiliations, ethnicities, etc...

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          John Holdenposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You're new, that explains your perception of that being one of the most ludicrous statement.Stick around and you'll see far worse.

          BTW,welcome, have fun.

  2. TMMason profile image73
    TMMasonposted 5 years ago

    Yes we have.

    But it has been stolen, not so much lost.

    The agenda of the Frankfurt School, and the American Left and Progressives,  has been to twist history to make America evil, to teach our children they are decendents of scum who oppressed the world, and to embrace a new and better system, Socialism, so as to right our past wrongs.

    And it is working perfectly.

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      Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      very well said!! Very true!

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      Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes it is.  Divide and conquer is their goal.  Without, of course, lifting a finger (except maybe the middle one).

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        TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hey branda nice to see you hun. I will be back, hope your around to chat. Hope you have been well and doing good, and the lil ones also.

        BBL

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          Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The little ones are awesomely great!  (Hope yours are too!) smile
          Me, I'm in a sleepy daze of sorts.  But yeah I'll be around.  See ya. smile

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    recommend1posted 5 years ago

    The US has never stood for free markets, they have weighted markets, aggressively dominated markets, put conditions on markets - and all in the joke of free trade. 

    The US has lost nothing except the economic power to bully everyone else, the resulting decrease in profits from such actions would hardly matter except that your politicians and financial institutions have stolen it all when there was excess and then you paid them when there was no profit to be had.

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      Nick Lucasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      may I recomend that you read the Constituion......

      1. TMMason profile image73
        TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It wouldn't matter, Lucas.

        With all the BS re-defining of words and twisting of history, these fools today think the founders were Socialists, and that the Constiotution is a Socialist document.

        What a joke this nation has become.

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          recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          It is hard to imagine how you can twist and turn everything into the confusion you spout.   The Constitution was drawn up by business men, traders, landowners and slave owners and the free people they saw were those like them, nothing like you, me, black people, or working people, or anyone else really.

        2. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Do you hate America? Are you anti-American?

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            TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I hate what I see America becoming... what it has slowly been twisted into by the Leant Leftists who have betrayed thier own nation and fellow citizens.

            http://agendadocumentary.com/

            Shame on all of you!

      2. Greek One profile image78
        Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        yeah.. only Tea party members and their friends have read it

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          Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          and the others shred it.

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            Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            ... or interpret parts differently than the Supreme Court, and then blame the Justices for being un-American

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              Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              or let unAmericans appoint unAmerican Supreme Court judges.   Sotomayor comes to mind.  Obama goes without saying.

              1. Greek One profile image78
                Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                of course.. if they disagree with you.. they are un-American. 

                That is the state of discourse offered by the far right in the US these days.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  You're right.  We don't debate the value of liberal ideas being made into law, because they have no value; they're totally contrary to the laws of our land and the laws of God.
                  Notice I didn't say we don't debate the fact that liberals have the right to their views.  But they should be exposed for the error they are.   And even if liberals become the majority, that only means we should remain a Republic instead of a democracy.  Because even if the majority of people become corrupt, our laws should still reflect the right views instead of the majority.

                  1. Greek One profile image78
                    Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    are you saying that the United States is not currently a democracy?

                2. lovemychris profile image80
                  lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Has been for a looooong time Greek. At least since 2000.

          2. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            well, it is, after all, just a "gd piece of toilet paper".....

            I'll take presidents for $100 Alex, who is George Bush.

            You kinda like him, don't you?

    2. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The chickens have come home to roost.

  4. TMMason profile image73
    TMMasonposted 5 years ago

    Europe is as much to blame for the failing world economy as America, if not more.

  5. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    Nah, if riots happen, it will be because "we are not going to take it anymore"

    You can only keep people down for so long...and this time, they have added the middle class......they are officially playing with fire.

    tic toc, and ya don't stop...
    (I wanna sex you Up, Color Me Badd)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ask_sedx … re=related

  6. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    "Nah, if riots happen, it will be because "we are not going to take it anymore"

    ---"Despite data collected by the Guardian showing a strong correlation between poverty and rioting, the government denied that its brutal austerity policies contributed to the desperation and rage of its young people. A  researcher found that the majority of rioters who have appeared in court come from poor neighborhoods, 41 percent of them from the poorest in the country—and 66 percent from neighborhoods that have gotten poorer between 2007 and 2010.

    The techniques that were roundly decried by Western leaders when used by Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak against his people’s peaceful revolution are suddenly embraced when it comes to unrest at home. Not only that, but techniques honed in the “war on terror” are now being turned on anti-austerity protesters, clamping down on discontent that was created in the first place by policies of the state."

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2011/08/ … ltra-rich/

    Cuts and austerity lead to rioting...stealing people's savings will do it too. Taking and not giving is such bad form.

    Better watch it....Ryan is making flood and hurricane aid contingent on cuts...they are all about austerity these Republibaggers...oh, of couse not for themselves!! Heaven forfend.

    It's the same formula used over and over...and we are next.

    1. TMMason profile image73
      TMMasonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Its brutal austerity measures... wait till we have to under-take those brutal measures here... then the Leftists will be crying about killing grandma and the children, and the class warfare BS will be spouted by mouths like van jones and piven, then the oppressors BS from farrakhan and his ilk... then the Left will take to the streets with violence, as they already do at most Union rallie, and cry about how they are so oppressed and need the Govt to care for them cradle to grave... they are entitled after all damn it!

      What a joke.

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 5 years ago

    Where's cagsil we need cagsil

    Aaaahhhhhhhhh.  hmm:

 
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