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Why is the Tea Party wrong?

  1. JBBlack profile image60
    JBBlackposted 5 years ago

    Before you get crazy and start trying to deport me, let's get something to talk about in here.

    Rules: no crazy drum beating, only criticisms of the Tea Party and responses to specific criticisms, no this isn't about Obama or the Old Republicans.

    I'm sort of concerned about the Tea Party being inconsistent on issues.

    My example:  Shall we freak out about death panels for grandma or do we want to let some uninsured person die?

    Or am I completely off and is this blurred into the republican core?

    1. bgamall profile image84
      bgamallposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The Tea Party is being funded by hedge funds. Koch and Cantor are getting massive funding by hedge funds who want to be left off of the Dodd-Frank too big to fail list. That way these big funds can help the dirty banks blow another housing bubble.

      The same Tea Party that says you should pay back your mortgage is being funded by the hedge funds that facilitated the toxic mortgages in the housing bubble.

      Very dirty and this is the essence of the power of the Tea Party. The rank and file have little clue.

      1. JBBlack profile image60
        JBBlackposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        that's interesting information.

        1. American View profile image60
          American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Intersting, not true, but interesting

          1. bgamall profile image84
            bgamallposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Wrong, read the story about Koch hedge fund funding on business Insider. And now there is a big Bloomberg story on how the Koches sold arms to Iran and have done many illegal things outside the US. Bad people.

            Try to have an American View, not your own view.

            1. lovemychris profile image81
              lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              "Koch helped Iran build largest methanol plant in the world. “Every single chance they had to do business w/Iran, or anyone else, they did"
              *****

              It's all about the Benjamins baby....their bank account! NOTHING to do with America.

              And Kochs are funding the Alliance to "Protect" Nantucket Sound...even though boats have been dumping human waste in it for centuries....scraping the ocean bottom, destroying the eco-system....killing dolphins caught in tuna nets.....
              The first windfarm like it in the nation....held up in the courts for 10 years....
              Cause they can. Money buys law. Money protects criminals. Money makes the rules.  So--those Billionaire Bro's own a whole lotta America. Most def the TP....The corporate one. And most def the Supreme Bagger Court.

              and they scream patriotism!!! Orwell's prediction coming true.

              What the H has happened to America?

              1. American View profile image60
                American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                LMC,

                You know what happened, it got bought through the years. The power of raising funds to get elected or re-elected causes Washington to do things not always good for the people. Both sides are guilty of this. As much as you shout Kochs, why do you not shout Soros? He is just if not more guilty of the same actions.

                1. lovemychris profile image81
                  lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Because Koch is personal with me.

                  He has a mansion on Nantucket Sound.....he, with his dirty coal, is stopping the windfarm with endless court injunctions and delaying tactics.

                  10 + years.....I watched a panel on C-Span once....the people on it were actually LAUGHING at us here, because of our unwillingness to join the 21st century.

                  It makes me furious that that BUM can stop the first ever wind farm on the east coast with his money.

                  While ruining other environments far away from his precious eye-sight, smell and hearing.

                  A NIMBY who buys policies and elections. Blah!

            2. lovemychris profile image81
              lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              October 3, 2011
              NJDC: Koch’s Iran-Tainted Donations Must Be Returned By Perry, Bachmann, & Other Republicans Today

              http://www.njdc.org/media/entry/kochiran100311

              ****

              Uh  OH!~

            3. American View profile image60
              American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              BG,

              Try giving facts just one time instead of your opions

    2. American Romance profile image60
      American Romanceposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You answered your own question, In this country anyone can go to the emergency room and will be treated, You need not a dime to apply! We spend millions on illegals without jobs and delivering their babies in every border town!  Now as far as death panels are concerned, the liberals have admitted that clauses will control how much of an expensive medicine "some " will recieve.......that my friend is a death panel!

      1. Jeff Berndt profile image90
        Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Care is already being rationed, to maximize profits.

    3. rhamson profile image75
      rhamsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The problem as I see it with the Tea Party movement is that their emphasis is on treating the disease without taking the patient for consideration.

      Suppose they get the balanced budget amendment through congress by some miraculous event.  What next?  Cut all social programs to the bone so that the budget can be managed?  That would leave us the money to fight all these wars and institute a Marshall like plan in the middle east?  End the wars and collect the money to pay for skyrocketing medical costs and leave the borders vulnerable to invasion by all the people who are angry with us?

      You just can't cut one thing without ramifications and you must come up with a comprehensive plan to effect the change neccessary for these thoughtful changes to take place.

      The extremes that the Tea Party promotes leaves a lot of us out in the cold.

  2. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 5 years ago

    Insurance companies have been, for years now, determining what is in their own best interest and I don't expect that to change anytime soon.

    The Obamacare Health "idea" and that's about all I'm willing to call it, is foolish to begin with. It's the wrong direction for America.

    A Nationalized Health Care system isn't needed. Never was unless you wanted total control over people's life.

    The problem in this country isn't health care. It is about what people can afford for services offered from the Economy(totality of businesses). The competitive markets should dictate what the price of services are and will cost. It isn't the government's place to F**k with the markets. Intervening only makes things worse and not better.

    The fact that many people cannot afford the service is because of two things- the level of homeless and poverty among citizens, and there are not enough competitors in the marketplace. Too many companies dominate over others.

    Many millions of homeless. Many millions living at poverty level. Aiding and restoring these people is what's in the best interest of society.

    The problem is distortion and misinformation from both sides of the aisle. And, I'm sure that the Tea Party doesn't have an answer for either. All the Tea Party is screaming about is the U.S. Constitution. Meaning, they are using an old tactic to gain a foothold in politics. Nothing more. Just more BS.

  3. habee profile image90
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    It's hard to pinpoint the TEA Party because it has so many different arms and factions.

    1. JBBlack profile image60
      JBBlackposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      exactly my complaint.  Hard to criticise something so amorphous

      1. junko profile image79
        junkoposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The Tea Party is a tool concieved and created by the Republican Party to get the White house back in four years after the Republican brand was tainted by Bush. It is wrong because the Republican party was wrong for Americans after eight years of Bush and the Tea Party(The new Republican brand) is wrong for Americans after only four years of Obama. The Tea Party is nothing but Hogwash.

        1. American View profile image60
          American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Too bad you did not know how the Tea Party Movement started

          1. road2hell profile image80
            road2hellposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Well, please inform us!

    2. Jeff Berndt profile image90
      Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      True, but they seem to consistently confound the Constitution with the Declaration of Independence.

      1. junko profile image79
        junkoposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Most don't know the difference in the constitution, declaration of independence, and the pledge of allegiance to the tea party.

    3. I am DB Cooper profile image67
      I am DB Cooperposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Bingo. Ron Paul is considered one of the main founders of the Tea Party movement, and he is against much of what the current Tea Party stands for. He was actually booed at the Tea Party/CNN Republican Debate.

      1. American View profile image60
        American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The only one that thinks he found the Tea Party movement is Paul himself. Paul was not the founder of the Tea Party

    4. American View profile image60
      American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Habee,

      not really. The Dem talking points make it seem that way

  4. PrettyPanther profile image83
    PrettyPantherposted 5 years ago
  5. Joe Badtoe profile image59
    Joe Badtoeposted 5 years ago

    Tea Party was a zoological lab experiment that went horribly wrong - though the story was picked up and allegedly used as material for latest planet of apes movie.

    If you put all the Tea Party members in one room the IQ would still be in single digits.

    No point disputing the facts - deal with this in your own way folks..

  6. Ralph Deeds profile image68
    Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago

    The Tea Partiers are wrong because many or most of them are

    --ignorant of economics, focusing on balancing the budget instead of unemployment

    --deniers of global warming and supportive of unregulated drilling for oil and gas anywhere in the U.S.

    --opposed to any tax increases

    --are social conservatives opposed to abortion under any circumstances but supporters of capital punishment; opposed to gay rights; opposed to sex education other than "abstinence only" training; skeptical of evolution and supportive of teaching creationism in public schools; opposed to the separation of church and state, and supportive of allowing evangelical Christianity influence public policy.

    --believe the government is the enemy and supportive of dismantling the federal executive branch agencies such as EPA, DOE, Education Department

    --support privatization of schools, roads, prisons, the Post Office and other  government functions

  7. lovemychris profile image81
    lovemychrisposted 5 years ago

    Well, By GUM!

    Herman Cain Supported TARP
    http://www.frumforum.com/herman-cain-supported-tarp

    Isn't he a Tea-Bag?? Weren't they out there holding signs against Obama for TARP??

    What can you say about this? oh--here!:

    "Anything before the November 08 elections never happened. No matter what positions Republicans previously held, they were given a clean slate to say and do whatever they wanted as long as it hindered President Obama."

    Bingo.oh---they were given this clean slate BY the "liberal" media!

    1. American View profile image60
      American Viewposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      LMC

      You point out the issue. Dems call everyone a Tea Party Person even when they are not. Cain is not not one, he seeks their support, he agrees with them on cutting the bugdget, but that does not make him a tea-bag as you say.

      1. lovemychris profile image81
        lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Oh, I thought he was!

        Well, look out.....I'm sure things will come out about him soon.

        And if he says there is racism, maybe the right will listen now! Instead of downplaying or just denying it.

  8. bobpalumbo profile image60
    bobpalumboposted 5 years ago

    Nothing...IMO.  I think they are EXACTLY what we need in this country...a return to the core values that the country was founded on.

    Simply compare Tea Party gatherings to the "mob mentality" you see on Wall Street right now.  No comparison.  One is a peaceful, orderly group trying to send a clear message to Washington.  The other is very disorderly and has no real goal in mind....the just want to protest to protest....the think it's the 70s all over again.

    The Tea Parties..(and there is more than one group iinvolved in what we call the Tea Party Movement) are interested in returning to the "blueprint" presented by The Founders ini the U.S. Constitution.  They want to restore the federal government to the healthy balance between powers that existed in the original framework.   We have strayed for from that course in the last 100 years or so.  Very far!!!

    1. rhamson profile image75
      rhamsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If you wish to return to the true constitutional values and core beliefs that the founding fathers had with regard to the constitution we would have a hell of a mess on our hands.

      This includes voting rights to civil rights.  The founding fathers negated to address quite a few issues that have cropped up over the years and political cronyism within the system has rewritten it either through special interest or above all else a politically motivated Supreme Court.

      The problem with the Tea Party is that it wants to pick and choose what issues it wants to change and along with any other party or PAC they wish to ignore the rest. They have chosen a "no compromise" tactic that has further hurt the countrys' standing and caused very little else to be done.

      What we really need is to put our egos and rhetoric in our back pockets and fix the system to allow the free flow and exchange of ideas and actions.  Try starting with the corruption of money that has bought the politicians concience and our collective ignorance and you may make a start to recovering from the farce we now believe in.

  9. LucidDreams profile image82
    LucidDreamsposted 5 years ago

    I am not sure they are completely wrong. They have just lost their way as most parties do. We have to get the money out of politics to really give power back to the voters. We cannot help the economy recover when big business has already bought our politicians and steer them in the direction which is most important for them.

    Our whole system of politics is failing right now and something needs to be done quickly. I watch the debates and political shows where the talk surrounds, oh the democrats do this and the republicans do that.....we cant have anymore of this kind of junk. No more blaming people lets just get it done. Unfortunately until politicians have to live in our shoes, stop getting money thrown at them by big companies, pay their own healthcare, earn the same amount as the average person in their state, they just wont get it....Make them live like us and watch them leave politics in a hurry, or start making decisions that should have happened long ago.

 
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