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OWS ... not quite right

  1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
    Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago

    Hey all,

    Here's an article I found highlighting the idiocy of the OWS movement.

    They're a movement who sees the issue of banks being in bed with government. However, to demand a reduction in government (the group bailing out the banks), they demand an INCREASE in government (really, I can't understand this).

    Ron Paul is demanding the former, while they demand the latter.

    However, being that OWS is a progressive movement, tolerance is a natural part of that movement. In fact, many of them demand tolerance of races.

    The interesting part is that, apparently, tolerance of political beliefs that are similar (a reduction in bank-gov't relations) but different are NOT respected.

    In fact, it seems that PROPERTY RIGHTS are ALSO not respected by these OWS goons.

    Here's the article which illustrates a story where the OWS goobers ridiculed and ransacked a Ron Paul tent that was posted there.

    A bunch of thieves and hypocrites, these OWS.

    http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news- … 82558.html

    1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      "But a light regulatory hand is now being called into question after the collapse of MF Global, the brokerage firm run by Jon S. Corzine until last week.

      As regulators hunt for $600 million in missing customer money at the firm, many clients are aiming their anger at one of MF Global’s primary regulators: the CME Group.
       

      For decades, commodities and futures trading firms have been largely policed by the exchanges where they trade, setting up potential conflicts of interest. These profit-making exchanges, like the CME Group, oversee the very futures firms they rely on for business, a self-regulatory system unlike that overseeing the Wall Street banks, which contend with armies of federal regulators.

      Some farmers that used MF Global to protect themselves from the price swings of their crops are losing faith. “You do business with these places and you just assume they are fine and reputable,” said Brian Eggebrecht, a third-generation grain farmer in Montana. “It’s a scary time for farmers. Who’s to say what is going on with the other clearinghouses?”

      The CME says the missing money at MF Global is an isolated incident, and does not warrant an overhaul of the exchange’s regulatory powers. Other industry insiders said there had not been problems with group’s regulation in the past.  MORE Here--


      http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/ … f=business

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I don't mean to be a jerk, and I know that this is obviously a response to the e-mails we've been sending back and forth, but this is a post about OWS being hypocritical and destructive.

        1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
          Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The OWS, as far as I can tell, supports more effective regulation of banks and corporations. Ron Paul says there's no need for regulation. Leave it up to the market. The article I linked is about an instance where private self-regulation didn't work. It contradicts your claim that the OWS is "hypocritical and destructive."

        2. KeithTax profile image79
          KeithTaxposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          And which political party isn't?

          1. Hollie Thomas profile image60
            Hollie Thomasposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            +1

    2. recommend1 profile image71
      recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You go dude !!!  criticise a few guys for ransacking a friggin tent !!  seriously !!  when they are protesting at the a@@holes who have ransacked your country - you are dimmer than a 5 watt bulb boy !

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Good job on missing the point. Completely.

        I personally AM mad at my government for failing to do a good job, and I'm furious at the banks for pillaging the tax payer money.

        So...

        Once again, GREAT job on missing the point entirely.

        1. quatrain profile image73
          quatrainposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Interesting but not surprising that Ron Paul would be targeted, even in absentia. I am not one of his supporters but he appears to be independent of both parties, which makes him an enemy of both liberals and conservatives. An independent mind is a threat to the tyranny of orthodoxy, whether from the left or the right, after all.

    3. bgamall profile image85
      bgamallposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Evan you believe that employers should be allowed to discriminate because of race, and that restaurants should be able to refuse minorities when serving food don't you?

      This is the underbelly of libertarianism folks. It is a morally corrupt philosophy.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Well, there's no point in arguing with you, but I might as well restate it:

        The reason why you are allowed to choose who you marry is the same reason you're allowed to choose who gets to use your property.

        Bgamall apparently thinks everyone is allowed to use everyone else's property.

        I call his jewelry!

    4. KeithTax profile image79
      KeithTaxposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You should read American political history; it is full of colorful political partiers. Remember the Whigs? Bull Moose Party? The Know-Nothing party? Yeah, they called themselves the Know Nothing party. Then there was the American Republican party (what the Know Nothings called themselves first.) We also had the American party and the Native American party. When you read the history it sounds a lot like the Tea Party and the Occupy Wall Street movement. The issues haven't changed. The same crap makes the rounds under a different name. Google it if you don't want to check the library.

  2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago

    From a previous thread:


    Evan G Rogers wrote:
    All the things listed in your post - bailouts, unemployment, corporate greed - are the main focus of Ron Paul's presidential campaign.

    OWS has a LOT in common with Ron Paul.

    (my response) No Evan, they don't.  Ron Paul would like Wall Street crooks to police themselves.  OWS wants them policed by our elected representatives.  Ron Paul supporters are a desperate, hypocritical bunch which is why he is running as a Republican.



    Nice flip-flop

    Are you running for office?

    1. bgamall profile image85
      bgamallposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, the libertarians believe in spontaneous order. Try having spontaneous order at a sporting event.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think you need to write another article about Ron Paul secretly being Hitler. That'll get you a few million hits! GOGOGO! BUSINESS INSIDER, AWA~~~AY!!!

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I know reading is difficult, but "both groups want to end the bank bailouts, the high unemployment (which is really in the double digits), and corporate/governmental greed, but the OWS are doing it wrong" was the message in BOTH of my posts.

      I suppose, after discussing with you, the differences became more clear, and so I emphasized it a bit differently.

      ... but I guess we should just make fun of people who might be using HubPages to gain a better understanding of the world.

      Good job on that, Ron.

    3. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Wants them policed by our elected representatives, you must mean the D.C. crooks. Brilliant.

  3. Mighty Mom profile image88
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    Evan,
    Have you given any thought at all to what you'll do after November 2012?
    Will there be, can there be, life after Ron Paul?

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Ask Harold Camping.  He has some relevant experience.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hey Ron: Your "swagger in chief" isn't going to end any of the wars he started, and he hasn't even finished the one he'd promise he'd end by the first year.

        So, keep that tinfoil hat on and vote for Obama again... it'll just be another 4 years of Bush on Steroids.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Don't worry Evan, you can get started on Ron Paul 2016 ...oops....2020....oops...2024....oops...

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Ron, I've actually lost what little respect I had for you on this forum.

            1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
              Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Man that really hurts.  All I've ever sought here is your love. sad

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'll be voting libertarian.

      BTW - how can you even ask me that? Liberals are anti-war, yet Obama is involved with 5 wars.

      So, instead of making fun, look in a mirror.

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
        Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        As I recall Obama voted against Bush's ill advised invasion of Iraq. Now he is pulling out. Bush started an endless war in Afghanistan in a failed effort to get Bin Laden. Obama got him with a few Navy Seals.

  4. weestro profile image80
    weestroposted 5 years ago

    Regardless of your stance, this will make you scratch your head:

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/1 … k-attacks/

 
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