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GOP Candidate: Romney, Gingrich or someone else?

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    icountthetimesposted 5 years ago

    Do you think there's still a chance that someone other than Romney or Gingrich will emerge and become the Republican nominee. Both Romney and Gingrich both have good, but not spectacular levels of support, and there is a sense that neither one of them quite fits the bill, in terms of what the party is looking for.

    1. DJProfessorK profile image60
      DJProfessorKposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Neither is a good candidate, Gingrich is intelligent but has a bad reputation from his previous run in politics. Romney is so fake that he'll say anything and everything to get the nomination.

      I like Jon Huntsman or Ron Paul, but it will take a massive change in events to bring them to the fore. Huntsman has the better shot because he doesn't have any stigma attached to him (plus he was US Ambassador to China in the Obama Administration). He could end up pulling support from both parties.

      @Whoisbid - There hasn't been a truly viable woman candidate. Palin and Bachmann are clinically insane, and Hillary Clinton is probably unelectable. It will come, but expect it within 12 years.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Why do you say Bachman is insane?

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          Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I bet it's because he can say it and nobody calls him on it.   It's become quite politically-correct to label conservatives with the "insane" label.  Just not right at all.

          1. DJProfessorK profile image60
            DJProfessorKposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            You do realize that I am a conservative, right? One who projects strength but consistently fails in backing it up is insane for trying to make that into their label. This is Palin. This is Bachmann. I don't want someone in office who fakes their entire image, plain and simple. Palin has the better political record of the two, but her image was shattered during the '08 election.

            The best liberal female in recent years would have to be Hillary. While she got a bad rap during Bill's presidency, she does present some thoughtful arguments that even conservatives have to consider from time to time.

            The best conservative female in the last 20 years was Condi Rice, far and away. She proved that she had serious political clout, but the political scene just wasn't something her heart was in on. It's understandable, especially given the poisonous political times.

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              Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe you're conservative on some things, but I can't imagine any conservative saying Bachmann is insane, because she stands firm on Republican conservative principles (and doesn't avoid any of the subjects).

              1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I like both Palin and Bachmann.  I think the Republican party let an inept McCain campaign wreck a rising star in Palin.  She also made the bad decision of signing on though unready for prime time.  I think that lesson has not been lost on other rising stars like Chris Christy or Marco Rubio.

                Palin/Bachmann GIRL POWER 2016 would make heads explode - which would be hillary-ous.

                Romney looks and sounds presidential but his instincts are liberal.  If he had Bachmann's instincts he would be a much better candidate.  Newt is a phony and an ego maniac.  I would face the exact same problem voting for him that I had with McCain.

              2. DJProfessorK profile image60
                DJProfessorKposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                You're right, she doesn't avoid them. She just has no idea what they really mean. Ask her to give a basic speech on a number of key issues and one of two things will happen. It has before, so you'll see.

                She'll either...

                a) Get the facts wrong (shameful)

                or

                b) Use gimmicks to sidestep the complicated response.

                I want straight talk...which by the way did not occur during that one Rick Perry commercial. He's reaching for my "insane" label to slap on his forehead, probably upside down as well since he has fumbled all through this campaign.

              3. Jeff Berndt profile image92
                Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                "I can't imagine any conservative saying Bachmann is insane, because she stands firm on Republican conservative principles"
                Well, see, that's assuming that all conservatives are idiots (like Bachmann) and that they value things like willful ignorance, demonization of science and education, and making up a bunch of unsupported carp to frighten the gullible, ignorant, and/or stupid.

                Luckily, the vast majority of conservatives aren't idiots, and won't buy the carp she's selling.

                1. habee profile image90
                  habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Bachmann makes Palin seem reasonable and almost smart.

                  1. Jeff Berndt profile image92
                    Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    +1

                2. livelonger profile image88
                  livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I don't know about that. I think the reasonable/rational conservatives are kind of a dwindling minority among the GOP these days, if the rhetoric through their propaganda channels and opinion polls are any indication.

                3. Ron Montgomery profile image61
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Never underestimate the public's love of tender, juicy, succulent carp.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I assume no such thing, and neither should you.


                  BTW, Bachmann not only diminished Ron Paul in last night's Republican debate, but she stood good ground against ALL nonsense that came, even from some of her fellow Party members.

                  1. Jeff Berndt profile image92
                    Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I don't, and that's why I'm not worried about her becoming president.

                    (Perhaps you should read the entire post before you reply?)

              4. Jean Bakula profile image94
                Jean Bakulaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                She didn't even have her facts right in most of the debates. Her gay husband is still trying to "pray away the gay." This is reality, and the conservative right has gone so nuts, now they don't even have a viable candidtate. Romney is a liberal, and has to pretend his successful health plan (which is very similar to Obama's) failed, because you crazies care more about interfering in women's rights and praying than deciding which candidate has the actual experience and skill to run the country. And morals. Newt and Romney have none. The way Newt went after Bill Clinton like a rabid dog after the Lewinsky debacle made me sick, as Newt was such a hypocrite he was also cheat ing on his 2nd wife with the lady who is Wife 3. These people who call theselves conservatives are without morals and hypocrites. Hillary should have won the primary in 2008.

            2. Mighty Mom profile image91
              Mighty Momposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Agree with most of what you say here.
              Palin's image wasn't shattered until well after the '08 election. She shattered it herself. Where'd she go, anyway?
              Bachmann has a huge liability in her husband.
              I like Condi and wish she had not been associated with Cheney/Bush. No wonder she soured from politics.
              Hillary and Bill both have high approval ratings. She's proven herself on the international scene as SOS. He's brilliant. No doubt about it.
              If I had to bet now, I'd say Hillary will join Obama on the ticket as VEEP and swap jobs with Joe Biden, who is getting more airplay these days on foreign issues.
              Adding Hillary bumps Obama's strength bigtime and gives her an insider track for 2016.
              Unfortunately, not being part of the 1%, I have no actual money to put where my mouth is on  this! smile

      2. habee profile image90
        habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Huntsman is my pick.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          We're going to see Bachmann, Perry, Huntsman, Cain, and Santorum get "less than hoped for" vote totals in Iowa. Most likely Cain, Huntsman and Santorum will drop off right there.

          The media will act shocked that Ron Paul got 2nd place, and then proceed to ignore him.

          Then, in the next primary, Gingrich's numbers will be lower than he expected, and Perry and Bachmann will drop out.

          Ron Paul will get second place again, and this will be easily dismissed after a few "wow! Ron Paul doesn't suck completely" headlines.

          We'll be left with a slowly floundering Gingrich, the steadily growing Ron Paul and the consistent (consistent in poll numbers, not policies) Romney left over.

          Then in the third primary, Gingrich's numbers will plummet more, and Romney will be in a race against only Ron Paul. However, the media will continue to ignore Ron Paul.

          No party involved in politics wants Ron Paul to get below a third place in the first few primaries, nor do they want him to win. If Paul gets below third, he'll drop out of the R and move to the Libertarian Party - none of his supporters will care - and he'll get the L's the 3% necessary to get federal funding AND Obama will be re-elected.

          If this happens, the media will blame Ron Paul for re-electing Obama even though the real reason he will be elected is because Romney and the rest of 'em are completely the same as Obama.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
            Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Do you ever read newspapers or watch news shows? They are all playing up Paul's chances in Iowa, yet you continue to parrot the Ron Paul whine of "no one's paying attention to me."

            Ron Paul consistently polls in single digits nationally and doesn't stand a snowball's chance in your shack of becoming president.  He will however, continue to help Obama by muddling the Republican primaries and if he does in fact decide to run as a third party candidate, Obama will win by an even greater margin.

            Purple Unicorn 2012.

            1. DJProfessorK profile image60
              DJProfessorKposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Everyone loves an underdog...

          2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I think the details of your analysis are correct with the exception of a steadily growing support for Ron Paul.  He will top off soon, probably after New Hampshire.  His position on Iran's nuclear program(and foreign policy in general) and his conspiratorial tone on banking will turn off the sane.  Ron Paul is consistent, consistently provocative and consistently flawed.

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              You calling me insane?

              1. Ralph Deeds profile image71
                Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                No, just misguided. :-)

              2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                That is what you took from that posting?  We tend to bristle at the arrow closest to the mark.

      3. Daniella Lopez profile image89
        Daniella Lopezposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I wouldn't say Bachmann is insane... just a few fries short of a Happy Meal is all. Same goes with Palin. I agree that Condi Rice has probably been the only potential female candidate seen that had both brains and could represent the party well.

        Now back to the actual topic... I think it's pretty much down to Newt and Romney. I would love to see Ron Paul a little higher, but he's just a little too Libertarian for some folks. I don't believe Perry will gain any momentum. He's just not a strong enough candidate to represent the party.

      4. RVDaniels profile image80
        RVDanielsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It is rude and libelous to call the female candidate insane. They may not be electable right now and I truly hope Palin doesn't enter the race (not because she is a bad person, just not electable).  You do not get elected Governor or to serve in Congress if you are nuts. The only nutty people getting elected go to the oval office.

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Ron Paul

      1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image91
        Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The ONLY candidate with a shred of integrity and an ounce of decency - and Dr. Ron Paul has those things in doses that an American POTUS has probably never had before!

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
          Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No, the Purple Unicorn is far superior.

          Purple Unicorn 2012

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Bob Barr? Really? He had an even smaller chance than Santorum!

            Heck, he had an even smaller chance than santorum!

      2. Paul Wingert profile image78
        Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Of all the Republican candidates, I would have to back Ron Paul. I watched him on Leno and I liked what he said about cutting off foreign aid. This has been going for generations and I believe that charity begins at home. With the billions we send to the middle east to buy friendships (Pakistan uses the money we send them to fund the terroists), that money can be used to straighten out our health care and education situation. My problem with Romney is that he can't keep his BS stories straight and I don't care for this country to be ran by the Mormon church if elected. Gingrich is another BS artist with a lot of baggage and Bachmann is a serious nut case.

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Don't forget Gingrich is one of those papists, just like JFK.  I know you don't want the pope to run the country either.  It is fun when  liberalism's religious bigotry rears its too common but hidden head.

          1. RVDaniels profile image80
            RVDanielsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Papist? How colonial. (LOL)

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      Phoebe Pikeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I have always considered Romney as a Trix rabbit. The cereal being the president's job... everyone else got a taste of it, but he was always left out. Now it looks like he has a fighting chance, but who knows what tomorrow will bring?

      1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
        uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        There is a reason Romney hovers around 25%.  There have been multiple anti-Romneys pop up this cycle.  Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Gingirch are all the none Romney.  Romney is palatable to the old GOP structure - you know, the ones who gave us such great candidates as John McCain, Bob Dole and Gerald Ford.

        Reagan was unacceptable to the same kind of party apparatchiks who love Romney. There is a purging of Republican light weights that began with the 2010 elections and will continue this time.  It isn't the phony "occupy" revolution that will make the political difference but it will be the quiet, seething disgust with the federal government that fueled TEA party candidates and motivates a 10th Amendment movement among the states.

        Romney isn't fit for the fight and the 75% who are not supporting him now know it.  Romney-care is an albatross that he refuses to remove from around his own neck.  It is his commitment to Romney-care rather than his abandonment of it that will sink, is sinking, his candidacy.  Romeny's instincts will end his campaign.

        1. habee profile image90
          habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I think Romney is more electable in the general than is Gingrich. Romney seems a "safer" choice. Who's your pick?

          1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Count me in the growing "anybody but Obama" crowd.  I would even vote for Huntsman before Obama.  Don't bother mentioning Hillary.  I'll be damned before I will vote for a Democrat.  I would even vote for that wack job Ron Paul before I would vote for Obama.  The potential damage a second Obama term will do to world affairs and the economy are too terrible.

        2. livelonger profile image88
          livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I hope the GOP ends up nominating a loony-bin right-wing candidate (i.e. not Romney). That's probably what it will take for the Republicans to come to their senses for 2016.

          It sucks not having a meaningful opposition party right now. The choice we have is either the Democrats or the insane asylum.

          1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            How well reasoned and insightful.  Your brilliance has helped me decide.  Thank you.

            1. livelonger profile image88
              livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              LOL. It wasn't trying to convince you, or any particular person, to do anything. The Tea Party sentiment and irrational hatred of Obama are probably strong enough to make the Republicans cut off their nose to spite their face, and run someone who has no hope of winning the White House. That's what happens when you have a significant portion of the base with tribally-driven affinities to your party.

              My suspicion is that the elites know this, so they're just running a new standard-bearer every couple of months to remind people:
              "Yeah, we have no hope of winning, but, hey, see, we don't all hate Mormons, African Americans, women, Catholics, Hispanics, etc. (while, naturally, winking at the racists and other assorted bigots and reminding them that they still have a place under their tent); keep that in mind for 2016."

              1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Sorry, I had trouble reading your last posting - I had to wipe the regurgitated vitriol out of my eyes.  I have been reading hate from the state-ists Democrat and Republican liberals for so long it is little more than background noise.

                George W. Bush was an idiot - but I bet he gets corpse-man right even without a teleprompter.

                Sarah Palin is an idiot - but I bet she knows Hawaii isn't in Asia - especially without a teleprompter.

                Michelle Bachmann is an idiot - but I bet she knows they speak German in Austria - not Austrian - even without a teleprompter.

                Republicans are hateful monsters - look they think the "Arab Spring" is an Islamist revolution not a democratic one.  Idiots, we better rush good Democrats like John Kerry over to Egypt to praise the Muslim Brotherhood's pending extermination of Egypt's Coptic Christian minority - BRILLIANT!

                sell your hate somewhere else - I have heard it for decades and it is dull.)Speaking as a life long Catholic - I have never felt so much disgust as when Democrats like Joe Biden, Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi pretend(ed) to be good Catholics)

                1. livelonger profile image88
                  livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  That's what happens when you let "background noise" of your own choosing color your entire perception.

                  Like I said before, I'm not selling you or anyone else anything. I know fully well you will vote for whoever the GOP candidate is. I will be voting for Obama. Our votes are spoken for. We are just discussing what will probably happen, our speculations and hopes, next year. Your vote and my vote are basically insignificant.

                  1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                    uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    You assume you know for whom I will vote.  Continue in your assumptions.  It is only a matter of time before we all live in the workers paradise.  How are things "progressing" in the great progressive countries of Europe or in the progressive bastions of California, Illinois and New York?  It is just a matter of how soon we will all discover the cost of California's decades long experimentation with liberalism.

                2. Mighty Mom profile image91
                  Mighty Momposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Tony Soprano will always be my favorite Catholic.

    4. Ralph Deeds profile image71
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Not impossible but unlikely that another candidate will emerge successfully. Donald Trump said the other day that he hasn't ruled a candidacy out.

      1. Mighty Mom profile image91
        Mighty Momposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Right. He'll file his candidacy papers right after he ferrets out Obama's real birth certificate.
        The arrogance. The unmitigated arrogance.


        Back to the OP.
        Will NOT be Gingrich.
        Will quite possibly be Huntsman.

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Wow, unmitigated arrogance, doesn't that make him a perfect match for the equally arrogant Obama?  Given the Donald's hair and his past political opinions perhaps he should take Biden's place.  He couldn't be more of a fool.

      2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image91
        Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Ron Paul will be your president - Obama is signing the end of his presidency with the NDAA.

        1. Pcunix profile image88
          Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Not going to happen. Not even conservatives are that crazy.

          1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image91
            Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I'll not vote for a criminal under any circumstance - it's Ron Paul or bust - anyone else elected and it's a fascist nation here, and wage slavery is the absolute norm.

            Why not just rip the Constitution to shreds?  Use an original copy as toilet paper?  <<<<< that's what Obama represents - even more of a fascist than "W."

            1. Pcunix profile image88
              Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Fine, throw away your vote.  That makes sense.  If enough people do it, a GOP crazy might win and he or she will surely appreciate your meaningless protest.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Voting for Obama or any of the other jokers is the only way to throw a vote away.

                Sure he'll get elected, but what's the point? They're all sell-out lying scumbags.

    5. quatrain profile image76
      quatrainposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Sure, anything's possible. But this election will not be about the Republican candidate. This election wil be about a referendum on Obama.

    6. Wayne Brown profile image86
      Wayne Brownposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The true challenge on the conservative side is not so much the candidate as it is getting on message and staying there rather than allowing things to wander or moving toward the center to gain appeal. 42% of the American public is "self-described" as conservative in their politics and another 30% describe themselves as moderates with conservative leanings. If the message is clear, factual, and consistently delivered, it will gain the proper attention and garner the necessary vote. It's that simple. WB

      1. Mighty Mom profile image91
        Mighty Momposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Unfortunately, there is no correlation between facts and votes.

        1. livelonger profile image88
          livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          There's also no meaningful correlation between identifying as conservative/conservative-leaning and policy.

    7. Onusonus profile image83
      Onusonusposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I was watching the debate last night and thought that Michelle Bachman pimp slapped Ron Paul on foreign policy. Ron Paul sucks.

      1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
        uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Ron Paul still remembers the good old days when the Atlantic Ocean kept invaders away, until 18112.  I think he still has a "Wilson Kept Us Out of War" bumper sticker on his horseless carriage.  He treasures the autographed picture he has of Lindy and the other America Firsters.  That Ron Paul, he has been so right for decades - those decades were 1781-1811 - but he was still right.

        1. Onusonus profile image83
          Onusonusposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          smile

        2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          He remembers the days before we had a $14 trillion debt, and before we went around pissing off every country in the world.

          Oh, and the days when we still had freedom.

          1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
            uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            The Muslim world does not need an excuse to be pissed off.  The billions in aid, the billions in military facilities and support, the liberation and protection of millions of Muslims from Kosovo to Iraq to Afghanistan all freed to worship as they will, to live as they will and the United States is still the enemy.

            We are the enemy because there are two spheres - the sphere of Islam and the sphere of the infidel.  We are the most powerful force against the triumph of the Islamic sphere.  That is why they hate us.  There can be no peace with Islam until there is a reformation in Islam.  That reformation has occurred and the Islamists have won.

            In the 1950s Americans could travel all over the Muslim world with little risk of molestation.  What changed? Even into the 1970s the Muslim world was not as hostile as it is now, why?  What changed?

            The radicalization of Islam with the support of an increasingly pacifist West has facilitated the rise of Hezbollah, Hamas, the Brotherhood, etc....  It isn't until the West started blaming itself for the failure of Islam to modernize that the real hatred of the West began.

            Ron Paul's foreign policy is loony at best but more likely suicidal.  It wouldn't help to settle the hash of the Federal Reserve if the Federal Reserve Bank of New York is in a smoking nuclear wasteland.  That is what Ron Paul's 17th century isolationist lunacy promises.

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              It's not "financial aid" if we are using the money to support dictators that we put in place.

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Irani … 7%C3%A9tat

              That's called "empire building". And the victims of it usually get pissed off.

              Remember that entire "American Revolution" thing?

              1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                The "victims" were, are and ever will be pissed off because you are not a Muslim nor do you bow down to the Caliph.  This is a conflict that predates America and one that the Muslim world prosecuted into the 16th century and beyond.  It is the clash of Islam with non-Islam.   

                Right now those "victims" in Iran have been brutalized by an America free Tehran for decades and would rather trade the Mullah run Oligarchy for just about anything.  We see the coming disaster in Egypt after an America backed strong man is deposed the Brotherhood starts its campaign to murder the Copts and abuse women.

                The non-Muslims of Iraq, smaller in number now than in decades, are terrified now that the "Great Satan" of the Islamists and the Paulniacs has left.  It is amusing, where you see empire and compare the United States to The British Empire others see the grave yards of American service men who liberated France, Germany, Italy, Belgium, So. Korea, etc....

                Maybe Ron Paul and his minions just need to get new prescriptions for their eye wear and leave out the brown tint this time.

    8. Wayne Brown profile image86
      Wayne Brownposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The mainstream media spends far too much time attempting to report the shortcomings of Romney or Gingrich after dispensing with Cain. This leaves little or no time for the other candidate to gain face time in the public arena. Santorium has a wealth of experience and knowledge as does Bachman but neither will get enough media exposure to shore up their campaign hopes. The same pretty much holds true for Perry as the media has been down on him from the start. In essence, the conservative side of the aisle seems to be willing to sit back and let the media determine who the nominee will be and that is a sad state of affairs. Ron Paul, though seeking the nomination now, will in all likelihood jump to independent status if he cannot secure it.  This will do nothing positive for the conservative side of the aisle regardless of which candidate gets the nomination. Paul will have the same effect that Perot had in his bid...splinter the conservative vote and guarantee Obama re-election. No conservative candidate who cares about the future of this country should be willing to take that chance. WB

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        "This will do nothing positive for the conservative side..."

        It would be the best thing that could ever happen to conservatives. Just because there's an (R) in front of a liberal's name doesn't make him a conservative.

        Maybe it'll finally wake up REAL conservatives to the fact that the Republican party has been giving them tax-and-spend crooks for the past 4+ decades.

  2. whoisbid profile image73
    whoisbidposted 5 years ago

    What about a woman? I guess the USA is one of the only countries that has never had a woman in that position

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      icountthetimesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Palin and Bachmann have been suggested at various points in time, but for various reasons they have not been deemed suitable or popular enough. Bachmann comes across as intelligent, but her views are too extreme for some, which of course isn't going to help in an appeal to moderates.

      It really wouldn't surprise me if there was an Obama/Clinton ticket next year though. Win or lose this election, she might have an opportunity for try to become the first female president in 2016.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image60
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be a VP change in an incumbent ticket.  Hillary might make a good president but this country rejects women in power even more than they reject blacks in power. They may respect a foreign country with a woman in power but not their own.  It's kind of like the wealthy town I live in.  They're always crying for better stores and restaurants but when these businesses come in they're not supported.  The residents spend their money out of town.

        @icountthetimes - don't you live in another country?

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          icountthetimesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Yes I do, but I'm a big follower of US politics. Primarily because whatever happens in the US impacts all of us, and also because your politics is much more dramatic than in typically is here (with the possible exception of right now, where there is lots of friction between the UK and the Eurozone countries).

          I've seen the last couple of Republican debates and regularly check out the realclearpoltics polls to see who is favoured at this moment in time. I have connections to the US so I guess that it part contributes to my interest too.

      2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
        uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Bachmann is also from the House of Representatives, there has never been a president elected directly from the House.

        1. S Leretseh profile image61
          S Leretsehposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I'd say Bachmann is more of a political pariah in the House. I find that to be a good thing.   I like this woman.  She's going to need a strong showing (IMO above 25%)  in Iowa to continue her campaign tho.

          Two people running for president - IMO- would fundamentally change America :: Paul & Bachmann.  I'd take either one.  I'd also take Romney.

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Lol - yeah, do you REALLY want Bachman or Palin to be Prez?

      then please stop asking for them.

  3. Ron Montgomery profile image61
    Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago

    Purple Unicorn

    1. habee profile image90
      habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Purple Unicorn is a Democrat! She and her pal Rainbow helped get Obama elected. Didn't you see the video from 2008?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adc3MSS5Ydc

  4. Moderndayslave profile image60
    Moderndayslaveposted 5 years ago

    Someone else,Ron Paul. When you think about it,republicans will honestly understand that Newt is a moron and corrupt beltway insider. Mitt just  can't get the job done. Republicans will default to the last "R" they see on the ballot,Ron Paul,party backing or not.They need to see the "R" there for some reason.Now we have the Democrats that are on the fence with Obama.They want change that Obama didn't bring. With the occupy movement now brought out in the open,the rank and file people in the US want these matters addressed. I feel that people will cross party lines just so we can fix this country.
    http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/in-io … -gingrich/

  5. carol3san profile image61
    carol3sanposted 5 years ago

    Ron Paul may be nipping at the heels of Neut.  If he can't catch Neut, then Neut will have the nomination at the end of the day.  From what I can see so far, I don't believe that Mit Romney has a chance.

  6. gamergirl profile image61
    gamergirlposted 5 years ago

    If Brenda says someone isn't insane, then I say the person belongs in the looney bin.

    Other than that, I say there isn't a single candidate out there who will be able to take the country where it needs to go.  But, then again, I'm one of those wacky folks who wants to see the federal government dismantled.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      It would be nice if someone wanted to rediscipline the Federal government to its originally chartered limits.

  7. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    http://img2.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/480/78183062-newt-gingrich.jpg

  8. Smokes Angel profile image70
    Smokes Angelposted 5 years ago

    I think Ron Paul may just end up getting the nomination.  Not saying I support any of them or Obama either.  I think we could use a "REAL" leader but I don't think one is going to emerge.  The problem is all of these men and women are career politicians

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The only real way to oust Obama will be to have Paul as the candidate or as the VP.

  9. Cagsil profile image59
    Cagsilposted 5 years ago

    There's not one politician who is interested in getting America back on it's feet. Not one. And, that shame folks is on the people. hmm

  10. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image91
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago

    What's the difference?  Has Obama reflected what you thought that the democratic party should?

    1. Pcunix profile image88
      Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No. I'm disappointed.  But a GOP POTUS will be much worse.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No. It wouldn't. It would be exactly the same.

  11. carol3san profile image61
    carol3sanposted 5 years ago

    The debate last night was telling.  Romney did not give a knock out punch to Newt.  Bachmann came pretty close to doing it.  If Romney wants to get out in front he needs to do what Bachmann is doing.  If not, I believe Newt will keep on going stronger and stronger,and he will end up with the nomination.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image61
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Why?  Bachmann and Paul are smacking Newt around pretty good and allowing Mitt to stay above it all and look presidential.

      1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
        uncorrectedvisionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Looking Presidential to 25% of those polled doesn't make one President.  Romney is unlikely to get the nomination unless he moves to the right of Gingrich and there is room to Gingrich's right.  Romney would be unable to move that direction with any credibility because everyone knows he is a moderate.  Moderate Republicans win elections for Democrats.

  12. I am DB Cooper profile image69
    I am DB Cooperposted 5 years ago

    From Reddit:

    Here's an animation showing how Newt Gingrich has found himself in the lead in GOP polls

  13. manlypoetryman profile image76
    manlypoetrymanposted 5 years ago

    This is sounding like the last go 'round...maybe McCain can throw his hat back in...He was loved as much as a current choices hmm

    1. Moderndayslave profile image60
      Moderndayslaveposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Isn't  McCain co-author of the National Defense Authorization Act , Mr. war hawk McCain needs to be removed from the senate, so forget about running for president.

  14. carol3san profile image61
    carol3sanposted 5 years ago

    I just heard that Newt and Mitt are tied in 3 different polls.  I wont be surprised if Mitt ends up on top of the list.  Looks like Mitt is going to be slow walking Newt down.

  15. Jeff Berndt profile image92
    Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago

    The problem with Bachmann's experience and 'knowledge' is that she hasn't gained any knowledge from her experience, and none of the 'knowledge' she has in spite of her experience is true. The GOP as a whole isn't crazy enough to nominate her, even if a large minority of their base is.

    If Ron Paul goes independent, he will pull lots of votes from both the left and the right. I think it might be the best thing for the country if Ron Paul does run on the Libertarian ticket. He'll pull the votes of the disillusioned from Obama, and the votes of the people who understand the difference between patriotism and nationalism from whomever the GOP nominates. He might not win, but I bet he'll get more votes than any other 3rd party presidential candidate to date (with the possible exception of Teddy Roosevelt when he ran on the Progressive/Bull Moose ticket).

    1. Mighty Mom profile image91
      Mighty Momposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If he taps Evan as his Veep (which he should!)
      he'll get almost all of the Hub Pages vote!

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Ron Paul can't afford me.

  16. carol3san profile image61
    carol3sanposted 5 years ago

    Ron Paul is being bashed for making some highly racial and insensitive coments in his news letter several years ago. I believe that will slow him down and keep him down.

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Nah. The people who actually bother to look into things (not the mainstream media) have found out that, not only did he NOT write those newsletters, but that many prominent minority leaders defend his honor as non-discriminatory.

      In a purely ideological sense, being a racist and a libertarian is impossible because racism is to view people as a collective, whereas libertarianism demands you see only individuals. The second one begins to define people as having rights/attributes based on purely genetic attributes, one ceases to be a libertarian.

 
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