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Will you cost your vote to Obama in next election and why??

  1. ITcoach profile image61
    ITcoachposted 4 years ago

    Election

    1. goldenpath profile image80
      goldenpathposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Definitely not!  Perhaps Ron Paul or Romney.  One or the other.

      Personally, I find Obama's ideas on wealth distribution set on a road to Socialism.  I'm not looking for a fight on this thread but just expressing my own thoughts, impressions and worries.  Yes, most power rests in Congress but his party will follow him even if they silently disagree with him.  Whether health care or taxes it will take a generation to fix what's been tampered with.

      Just a thought... smile

    2. Josak profile image59
      Josakposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I will be voting for him but not with the hope I did last time, he has not been as good as I had hoped and has not followed through with quite a few promises, though I do understand the difficulties with congress.

  2. Evan G Rogers profile image83
    Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago

    Definitely not.

    NDAA, Assassinations of US Citizens, $14T in debt, dumb ideas,

    The guy's a crook.

    Ron Paul 2012.

    1. mom101 profile image60
      mom101posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Evan,

      I am almost delighted to say this, but we agree on something for once.

      It felt good to say that.

      He, in my opinion, is our only hope for surviving this. From what I see and what I hear and what I understand, we can not or will not survive another 4 years.

      My concern is, how do we get this message out? I mean, time is short.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
        Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        The best way is to talk about him.

        Get your friends and families to see the utter nonsense and criminality of the other candidates, and then show Paul's stellar record. Most of them will likely groan when you bring it up, but just sit them down one day and give them a presentation that takes 10 minutes. Then you can leave it at that.

        They'll probably be less passionate, but they'll spread the word a little.

        Whenever he has a moneybomb I buy myself some Ron Paul gear - just so that other like minded individuals can see that they aren't alone.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
          Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Also, when Pro-Obama supporters say that Ron Paul is racist, or whatnot, you can point out that a) he really isn't, and that b) Obama did basically the same thing that Paul did with his newsletters regarding gay marriage.

          http://www.politico.com/pdf/PPM110_wct_ … _obama.pdf

          OH, and then you can point out that Paul voted FOR making MLK's B-day a national holiday.
          http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-624

          Here's a good article that puts things in perspective
          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-gro … r=Politics

        2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Ron Paul's stellar record - enlighten me.  What successful legislation has he authored?  Has he ever made any executive decisions - or merely been a House member and physician?  How would he work with a Republican majority in both houses given his open contempt and hostility for most Republican leaders, policies and ideas?

          How would he handle a nuclear Iran saber rattling over the straight of Hormuz?  I don't remember those evil Israelis threatening to block the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf - even though they have nukes.

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
            Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Your right, he's never gotten a successful piece of legislation passed.

            Not even the ones declaring wars in Iraq.  LOL

            Here's the list! Enjoy!

            He has never voted to raise taxes.
            He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
            He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
            He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
            He has never taken a government-paid junket.
            He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

            He proposed a declaration of war against Iraq.
            He voted against the Patriot Act.
            He voted against the NDAA.
            He voted against regulating the Internet.
            He voted against the Iraq war.

            He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
            He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

            1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
              uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              That is a personal voting record.  Where is the demonstrated leadership?  Where is the accomplishment?

              He showed up in Congress and voted - that is the expected.  His unexpected is to berate and annoy.  The was a war declaration on Iraq.  It didn't match his or you choice of words but his sense of history ends a very, very long time ago.

              Since the invention of nuclear weapons the US has fought several wars without the Ron Paul war declaration formula being followed.  Though they were all wars and all approved by Congress a formal war declaration that would satisfy Ron Paul hasn't existed since December 1941.

              He is a long time politician having done little more than run for office, been a burr under the saddle of the House and fulfilled his attendance and voting obligations.  He is not unique - in any way.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
                Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                The accomplishment and leadership comes from being elected repeatedly for 20 years AND never giving up on his principles.

                If you can't understand than, then the conversation is moot.

                WE DID NOT DECLARE WAR ON IRAQ. Saying that we did is one step away from lying. Just because the media calls them wars does not make it so.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaratio … tes#Formal

                If you look at the list, you'll find that the formally declared wars are ones that ended relatively quickly, and the others were complete and utter quagmires.

                1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                  uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  "The accomplishment and leadership comes from being elected repeatedly for 20 years AND never giving up on his principles."

                  Really - so all of those Senators who have been in Congress for decades and held to their principles are demonstrating leadership?  The guy who keeps his job and does it is a leader?  That will be news to all those federal employees.

                  Seems to me the only leadership Ron Paul  has shown is as the icon of a cult of personality that has popped up around him.

                  "Hail to thee oh holy Ron - where the hell is my pitch fork."

                  If you scrape off the Doctor from Ron Paul all that is left is nut.

                  Just because troops are deployed, young service people die - and kill - and a foreign policy aim of the United States is served doesn't make it a war.  Isn't that the functional definition of a war.  The use of force to accomplish a foreign policy aim. 

                  A Congressional authorization of the use of force against Iraq that gave the previous president, and this one, the power to use what ever force he deemed necessary to accomplish a policy goal is a war declaration regardless of the language employed.  Ron Paul, you and the other Paulniacs want the word war used.  The Constitution, however, offers no formula restriction on what does or does not constitute a declaration of war.

                  1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
                    Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    When your principles are "destroy corruption" then, yes, staying true to them for 20+ years is quite an accomplishment.

                    When your views give unrelenting passion to millions of people, then yes, you're a leader.

                    It's disgusting that you're calling the same beliefs as many of our founding fathers "nuts". I guess that just shows how much kool-aid the government has put into our water.

                    And, finally, UCV - wars are declared by Congress. Congressional authorization is NOT a declaration of war.

                    Tyrannical usage of the military is also not war.

                    Neither is killing US Civilians without trial.

          2. Evan G Rogers profile image83
            Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Oh, and just a reminder - The last country Iran attacked was the US embassy in 1979. And this was after we overthrew their elected leaders a few times. If they did that to us, I sure would have been pissed off!

            Oh, and they don't have nukes, nor are they working on nukes.

            In addition to this, they won't be doing anything with this Hormuz crap. It's all just the two leaders of the US and Iran trying to sound tough to drum up support.

            Get over it.

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/mid … tid=pm_pop

    2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Make the $16 trillion in debt- I think his goal is to actually gobble up every bit of GDP.

  3. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 4 years ago

    Prolly not, but it depends on who's running against him. I'd vote for Romney or Huntsman, maybe for Ron Paul. I won't vote for Newt, Bachmann, or Perry.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      So you sincerely believe that the direction of the country set out by Barrack Obama is superior to the course that Gingrich, Perry or Bachmann would set?

      Why is that?  I cannot think of a single issue with which I would agree with Obama over Bachmann or Perry.

      1. habee profile image91
        habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I vote more for the person. A president's personal views can go only so far because of Congress. I think Newt is a bad person, and I don't think Bachmann is very intelligent. I think Paul, Romney, and Huntsman are good men. I don't care much for Paul's foreign policy, however.

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Bachmann has a post-doctoral degree in tax law from William and Mary.  I suppose that brings her intelligence into question.

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
            Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            She thinks hurricanes and earthquakes are God's way of telling us we're spending too much money through the federal government.

            She's batsh!t crazy.

          2. habee profile image91
            habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I know, but I don't understand how she could make so many gaffes. I'm thinking that she has to be smart - maybe she's just confused? She also thinks women should submit to their husband's will. Yes, I know that's Biblical, but if she were elected, would she do what her husband told her to do in presidential matters?

            1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
              uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe her teleprompter is stupid.  That excuse works for Barry.  Perhaps you should read more about Old Testament women - I would suggest Rachel.

              If you are seriously entertaining the idea of voting for Obama - please disregard anything I have written in response to your posts.  It won't matter.

              1. habee profile image91
                habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Would you vote for Romney or Huntsman if either got the nod? Or do you consider Romney as "Obama lite," which would cause you not to vote at all, or to vote third party?

                1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                  uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Romney isn't Obama light but rather just another empty light weight like John McCain or Bob Dole.  I will end up doing what I have done far too many times.  Vote for the mediocre Republican and then vomit.

            2. PrettyPanther profile image85
              PrettyPantherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              My theory on why she makes so many gaffes is that she does not have a curious mind and doesn't really care about what is true.  Her political positions and beliefs are largely derived from her religion.  She will not believe or act upon anything that would counter what she has allowed to be drummed into her by organized religion.  She isn't interested in the truth so much as what will support her religious doctrine and the politics that derive from it.

              That's my theory and I'm stickin' to it.  :-)  Unless, of course, some evidence is revealed that conflicts with it, then I will reconsider.

  4. maxoxam41 profile image78
    maxoxam41posted 4 years ago

    Between two evils, I choose the least.

  5. Rastamermaid profile image71
    Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago

    He's done well in his term so far,he's cleaned up most of the mess we were "Bushwacked" with for 8 years.Now it's time for him to finish the job.

    He didn't make the mess that he cleaned up,and congress has given his the hardest time even,but Obama is still keeping it moving. I'll give him that and my vote.

    But that's because I'm a fair,true,pure hearted person,that isn't basing my decision on skin color. I'm basing my vote on what matters to me,and that is fairness,policy,agenda and compassion.

    Clinton left us sitting pretty,we were "BushWacked 8 years then again when they "BushJacked the election from Dole,cause by inaccuracy in "BushStateFL.

    If that's not suspect,I don't know what is and they succeeded.

    1. Rastamermaid profile image71
      Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      http://s3.hubimg.com/u/5939814_f248.jpg

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
        Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        he signed into law something WORSE than the PATRIOT Act, he made our children slaves to debt (other countries are starting to abandon the Dollar standard), he's assassinated US citizens, and he hasn't ended a single "War" (note, we are not in a war because Congress has not declared one since WWII).

        The guy should be impeached, thrown out of office and into a jail cell.

        So should Bush, Cheney, and countless others.

        1. Rastamermaid profile image71
          Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          You lost me,we were not at war? I've lost 2 friends in Bosnia and they were not there on vacation. They were there because  of ROTCin college the signed to do Reserve Duty after graduation thus the military paid for their education,and ultimately they paid with their lives.

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            geordmcposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            No, those are called "Police Actions" not wars. The term "war on terror" is the same as the term "war on poverty" or the "war on drugs" it's just a term.
            I'm sorry you lost friends in that action. I have 2 sons in the latest Police actions we are now in. I can understand the confusion.

          2. Evan G Rogers profile image83
            Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            The US has not declared war since WWII. WWII was also the last "conflict" we've won.

            There's a direct relation between invading countries without declarations of war, and quagmires.

            I'm sorry for your losses, but these conflicts have largely been completely pointless. Don't get mad at the messenger, get mad at the crook who sent your friends to their deaths.

            Demand REAL change we can ACTUALLY believe in. Obama said they'd be home in the first year. He lied. There are still 17,000 "contractors" in Iraq. The conflict isn't over.

            Ron Paul wants them home "as soon as the boats can get there". Ron Paul also was a veteran of the Vietnam "war". He also asked Congress to actually declare war on Iraq; his proposal was ignored.

            1. Rastamermaid profile image71
              Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Obama wasn't even in office in 1998/2000 when I lost my friends. Can't blame that on Obama.

              Obama didn't make America's problems,but some Americans want to make him the problem.

              Call it police actions,war on weapons of mass destruction or whatever you like it was wrong,Bush's reaction to Katrina was wrong.

              You can say what you like America was on the decline before Obama came into office,and by not working with him but against him Congress hasn't made it any better.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
                Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Sure, you can't blame your specific friends' deaths on Obama, but what about the hundreds (thousands?) that died because he didn't follow up on his promise.

                Obama has made an insane number of America's problems. Newsflash: we're $16 trillion in debt, being poor has been outlawed (ObamaCare), AND he just declared the entire earth a battle zone.

                $16 TRILLION IN DEBT!! That's TWO FULL YEARS of US citizens doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to repay it! (The non-government part of the GDP is about $8 trillion). We'll be $20 trillion in debt before he leaves office!!

                ... what? Katrina? Ummm... OK... yeah, Bush, FEMA, and the Army Corp of Engineers should all be fired. ... no qualms there. I'm surprised that Obama hasn't cut their funding for being so inept.

                Don't get me wrong, I don't like Bush - the man should be in a gulag. In fact, I went around my neighborhood trying to convince people to vote for John Kerry because "anyone would be better than Bush". But I woke up and found that such a statement is a lie.

                Obama isn't any better. In fact, I'm starting to think he is worse.

              2. TMMason profile image73
                TMMasonposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                So you really think Obama putting us more than another 6 trillion dollars in debt, in 3 years, is a good thing?

                When Bush ran the deficit up 4 trillion in 8 years, Obama stood on stages screaming it was unpatriotic, unAmerican, and only a moron or idiot would spend such amounts and rob our children and grand-children.

                But he has ran it up 2 times as much in less than half the time... and he is a great hero.

                What a joke.

                And I hate to break it to you, but the bush lied line... WAS A LIE propagated by the Leftists. You are aware we moved 5 metric tons of yellow cake unranium out of Iraq in 05/06? You do know that right?

                As to Katrina... there are many a democrat whoi holds more blame that Bush for the way that went. but you all do not care to see that the left keeps sticking you in the back and then blaming the right... and the media jumps in and presses lies as truth... and you all cannot bother to lok at the whole story for yourself.

                What a laugh.

                And do not mistake me for a republican, I am an independent Conservative, not a bush fan or any other progressives for that matter, or Leftists.

                And you are right, Obama did not create this problem, he has made it worse though. The true cause are the Socialist Liberal Deomocrats and the progressives within the Republican party.

                And we will throw more than a few of them out this election, as we did the last one.

                1. Rastamermaid profile image71
                  Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  This is going to be my last comment.

                  I excercise my right to vote,I stand by my decision,the question asked "will you cast your vote for Obama in the next election and why.

                  I honestly answered the question about my vote,and you have a problem with it. Well,that's your problem not mine.

                  My faith lies in God,my spirituality keeps me living a happy life because I know who is truly in power.

                  Everyone excercise your right,be counted and if you're really behind your choice voice it,campaign for it,shout it from the mountain tops or online.


                  Blessings to all!

                  1. TMMason profile image73
                    TMMasonposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    It is not that I do not like it.

                    It is that I find it funny people blame everyone but Obama, and the man has spent more money than all of them in 3 years. He has almost doubled the debt. yet you think that is fine?

                    You will vote for him to continue on spending TRILIONS. At this rate by the time he leaves, if he is re-elected, he will have spent 10 to 12 TRILION dollrs.

                    You think that is going to help us?

                    That is what is funny about all the people who will vote for him again.

                    And I am sorry. i did not mean to seem as though all that was directed at you personally, but all of you in general.

                    My apologies.

                    And I laugh at the republicans who are going to vote for a Progressive like Romney.

                    Yes it is too funny to me.

                  2. Rastamermaid profile image71
                    Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    When God decides it's done,it's done.

                    In the big picture if God ended the world today,no one would care about the election or who you voted before. We'll all just pray that the ones we love know that,and a full feeling of knowing we were loved back.

                    No need for apologies,that's your belief. I for one will never,ever shut down one's beliefs. I'm just happy they believe in something.


                    Respect!

                2. Quilligrapher profile image90
                  Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  The US orchestrated the sale and shipment of 550 tons of yellowcake (refined uranium) by the Iraqi government to a Canadian uranium producer, Cameco Corp, in 2008. However, this material had long been documented and under safeguards imposed by the International Atomic Energy Agency. It had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the first Gulf War in 1991. (1) Therefore, the existence and removal of this material is totally unrelated to President Bush’s State of the Union Speech in 2003 in which be said, “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”

                  This shipment is also unrelated to the often-touted Bush pretense to justify the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Both President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair announced the invasion was "to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction.” According to a radio address by President George W. Bush, “Our nation entered this conflict reluctantly, yet with a clear and firm purpose. The people of the United States and our friends and allies will not live at the mercy of an outlaw regime that threatens the peace with weapons of mass murder.” (2) In 2005, a CIA report stated no weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq. (3)

                  (1) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334
                  (2) http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives. … 30322.html
                  (3) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313/

                  1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
                    Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    anyone still defending Bush OR the US over the Iraqi "WMD" debacle probably shouldn't be taken seriously,

                    But it's interesting to see how governments lie to their populace.

    2. habee profile image91
      habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Bush jacked the election from Dole?

    3. Rastamermaid profile image71
      Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      **correction Gore***

    4. Captain Redbeard profile image60
      Captain Redbeardposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Ignorence is bliss

    5. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I think you said it all.

      1. Rastamermaid profile image71
        Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        To make an error is human,to mock an error is ignorence.

        Think I said it all : - )

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I was not mocking the error - of substituting Dole for Gore.  You and I see the whole world, our place in it, the nature of things, humans, government, economics ... reality in diametrically opposed ways.  So when I say you said it all I mean it.

        2. habee profile image91
          habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I think you mean "ignorAnce."

          1. Rastamermaid profile image71
            Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I spelled it the way the commentor spelled it,not not pointing out his error. It's not that serious.

            1. Rastamermaid profile image71
              Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Note that no one commented on Captain Redbeard's error,but quick to point mine out simply because we don't agree on this issue.

              Well you're not going to agree all the time with everyone,but my vote is just that my vote.

              I'm just one that has no problem stating who I'll vote for and why,nothing will be posted on this forum is going to change that.

              So on election day vote as you like,be counted I will.

              There was a reason I left these forums before,I remember now.

              Dueces Again!

              1. Michele Travis profile image63
                Michele Travisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                It is amazing to me, how quickly people forget how much they hated Bush when he was in office.  When he was in office, everything that ever happend was his fault.  Now that Obama is in office, everything is his fault.  I wonder why that happens?  Anyway, I admire you for being brave. On  the internet people can say anything they could say.  If they had to speak to you face to face, they would never say anything like that at all.
                By the way,  I talk about politics, but for some reason I talk about them all but never tell anyone who I am going to vote for.  It is a right we need to keep.

                1. Rastamermaid profile image71
                  Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  I can understand you keeping your choice to yourself,that's why there booths for privacy.

                  But I'm proud of my choice,and I will show it and state it from my car,my home and my person.

                  I'm in for Obama 2012,that was the question asked,I just answered truthfully and honestly.

                  1. Michele Travis profile image63
                    Michele Travisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I understand that also, but as I said before, you are one of the people who are honest.   There have to be many people who voted for him ( look at the number of votes he got) then said they did not!   The way I talk,  people probably know who I vote for, I just don't tell them.

              2. habee profile image91
                habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                I don't care who you vote for. I might be voting for BO, too. We all make spelling/grammatical errors. I made one in the forums the other day, and I was corrected by another hubber. I thanked him for pointing it out.

            2. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
              Kathleen Cochranposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I think he also meant cast not cost, but we all got the point.

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    Longhunterposted 4 years ago

    I wouldn't vote for Obama for dog catcher as the streets would be over run with strays much like himself.

    Obama is the worst president this country has ever had and hopefully ever will have. He must be defeated in 2012 so we can turn this country around, away from Socialism.

    Perhaps Sunday, January 20, 2013 will be a prayerful day of celebration when the Obama's board a helicopter and fly out of Washington, ending one of the worst chapters of American history. For this, I pray.

    1. Captain Redbeard profile image60
      Captain Redbeardposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You're not alone.

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    geordmcposted 4 years ago

    Not if he were the last politician on earth. His treasonous a$$ should be hung from the closest tree tall enough to do it!!!!!

  8. TMMason profile image73
    TMMasonposted 4 years ago

    No.

    Why.

    Because I do not support, and cannot stand, Leftist Marxist Socialist/Fascist scum.

    Not to mention the man hates this country.

    1. Pcunix profile image90
      Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Oh , of course he "hates" this country..

      I WILL be voting for him unless the GOP  changes radically over night.  And I sure as heck will not be alone.

      1. TMMason profile image73
        TMMasonposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Between his anti-colonialist and Islamic up-bringing, he simply can do nothing else but hate this country.

        Any type of love for this nation would be a foriegn thought to such a man.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
          Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Muslims don't hate this country. Quit saying things like that.

          I know numerous Muslims who are very happy to be living in a country where their right to practice is enshrined in the Supreme Law of the Land.

          1. American View profile image60
            American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Ah so Evan is for Sharia Law.

      2. Michele Travis profile image63
        Michele Travisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        GOP change?  lol.......

        1. FalconSays profile image61
          FalconSaysposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Not voting for Obama.
          Looking forward to a new President to bring our country back.
          (oh please oh please oh please)
          Not saying more, otherwise I'll go off and blood pressure will sky-rocket!

  9. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 4 years ago

    "Will you cost your vote" Yup - any vote for any federal politician will cost me dearly, which is why I will never vote for one ever again.

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
      Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I'd recommend voting for Ron Paul - he's an Anti-Federalist.

      1. American View profile image60
        American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Paul is ant everything. In fact he is even against himself

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
          Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          ... nope.

  10. AEvans profile image71
    AEvansposted 4 years ago

    All of us blame everything on Obama, but what we have forgotten about is the Senate and Congress. No matter who ends up as President there will always be complaints. sad

    1. American View profile image60
      American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      There is no question Congress has its share of the blame in this mess, but we have a President who is making moves without the approval of Congress that are hurting the country.

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image83
      Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Presidents hold the power to veto, pocket veto, refuse to enforce federal laws, and pull back the military.

      ALSO- Obama had a Democratic Congress for the first two years of his presidency. This "do nothing Congress" claim is hollow.

      It's safe to say that we can blame quite a bit on him.

    3. Kathleen Cochran profile image85
      Kathleen Cochranposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      It is interesting how many candidates swear when they get in office they will absolutely do this or that.  Then they get elected and find out if it could be done, it would have been done already.  I'm more concerned about what damage they actually do than what they find out they can't do after all.

  11. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 4 years ago

    The senate and congress is infested with war criminals and international terrorists.

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    geordmcposted 4 years ago

    @ knolyourself
    If you don't vote, don't whine about it after it doesn't go your way.
    @ AEvans
    That is the way things work in D.C. When one party is in the White House the other is usually in control of congress that way everyone loses.

    1. TMMason profile image73
      TMMasonposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Except for the 40 years of democrat control Congress up until 1994.

      So that doesn't actually work out so neatly.

  13. Ralph Deeds profile image69
    Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago

    :Yes, because he's done a pretty good job despite Republican obstructionism. Also, I'll vote for him because I'm a lifelong Democrat. Of course, the lack of an attractive Republican candidate makes it easy.

    1. Rastamermaid profile image71
      Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      http://s3.hubimg.com/u/5951618.jpg


      I'm with you!

    2. American View profile image60
      American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      2900 bills in the Senate right now, 1739 were tabled by Reid and the Dems, Who is guilty of obstructionism?

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    hpserverposted 4 years ago

    US is going through a tough period and Obama done a OK job here... So I would vote for him big_smile, though most of the peoples are interested only to find -ve aspect of him. big_smile

    1. Rastamermaid profile image71
      Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/5951625.jpg

      I'm with you too!

    2. American View profile image60
      American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If you think this is OK, I hate to see what would qualify as bad to you

      1. Rastamermaid profile image71
        Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

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        http://s4.hubimg.com/u/6003627_f248.jpg

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
          Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I'm surprised that you'd be Anti-Ron Paul.

          He would end the wars on day one.

  15. Alexander Brenner profile image89
    Alexander Brennerposted 4 years ago

    I will. The republican alternative is too much of a threat to the middle and lower classes. The republican solution is tax cuts for rich people and an undying faith in trickle-down economics. We need a president that can compromise and reason, though some will call him weak for it

    1. Rastamermaid profile image71
      Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/5962796.jpg


      I'm with you too!

      1. Rastamermaid profile image71
        Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I am not alone!

        I'm in!
        Obama 2012

        http://s3.hubimg.com/u/5962854_f248.jpg

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          oldandwiseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Given the current selection of GOP candidates, I would vote for President Obama.

          1. Rastamermaid profile image71
            Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            http://s4.hubimg.com/u/6003647.jpg

            I'm with you!

  16. habee profile image91
    habeeposted 4 years ago

    I'm voting for jobs and an improved economy. So, if Romney gets the nomination...

    Romney 2012!

    In fact, I'm just about to send him a donation.

    1. Pcunix profile image90
      Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think Romney is a horrible choice, but do you fully understand that he is a political opportunist who has changed his supposed opinions radically?

      Neither of us have any idea what his true positions are, which makes me think that it's really just all about Romney for him. 

      If you MUST vote Republican, he's at least not scary, but that's the most I can give him.

      1. habee profile image91
        habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I had much rather vote for Huntsman. I saw him on TV the other night, talking about China and North Korea. I was really impressed!

        I'm not wild about Romney, but I'm hoping he knows enough about economic and business models to help create an environment for job growth.

        And as I've stated before, if the GOP choice is Newt, Perry, or Bachmann, I'll vote for Obama. After all, I voted for Clinton, and I often vote D in local and state elections.

        1. Pcunix profile image90
          Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          He knows about stripping businesses and firing people, that's for sure.  Some of them recovered, some did not.  He doesn't know anything about actually creating businesses.  He was the master of the corporate takeover, not an entrepreneur himself.

          I have read Huntsman's web pages.  He is way too conservative for me.  Scary, from my pov.

        2. American View profile image60
          American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Huntsman is by far the most qualified candidate, but he is not getting  looked at. GOP will not support him because he worked in the Obama Administration. I think that is the most stupid reason not to back a candidate. I do not care who you are, what you believe, if the President called you tomorrow to serve your country, you will not say no. The funny part to it is he quit his post in China because the President would not listen to his advise on China. Then again, when has Obama listened to anyone?

          1. Pcunix profile image90
            Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You mean he hasn't listened to right wing extremists who would turn us into a third world country?

            Actually, he's given too much of an ear to those people.  He needs to recover his principles.

            1. American View profile image60
              American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Republicans are not the ones turning this country into a third world country. Huntsman has more priciples than the president, vice president and all of congress combined. Huntsman is the last person that could ever be accused of not having priciples or convictions, he is the only candidate that has both a domestic and forign policy plans.Ask yourself this, what plan will Obama offer should he get four mor years? answer, NONE other than the same old failed ones. If his answer was yes, my question would be why did he not put it in place? Why wait?

              1. Pcunix profile image90
                Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                I've looked at Huntsman's website.  He's a radical.  The problem with the GOP is that they have become so insane that someone like him starts to look rational.  He isn't.

                1. American View profile image60
                  American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  If you think Huntsman is radical, you must think Mickey mouse, The little rascals, The Coyote, Tom and Jeryy are all radical too.

                  1. Pcunix profile image90
                    Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    nope.  I think they are cartoons.  Just like all the GOP candidates - except Mr. Flip-Flop, he's just a work in progress where the plot keeps changing..

  17. rebekahELLE profile image90
    rebekahELLEposted 4 years ago

    yes, I will, because I look at what the Republican Congress has done and do not like any of the Republican candidates.

    The state of the economy is not the fault of Obama.
    I haven't been happy with some of his decisions, but I don't think a GOP president is what the US needs at this time. It's actually a rather scary thought after listening to the candidates.

    1. Pcunix profile image90
      Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I think a lot of us feel that way.  Obama has been a disappointment, but the alternatives are too scary to contemplate.

      Except maybe Romney, because his "positions" are just  what he thinks he should say.  What he'd actually do might not be much different than Obama.  He's a creep, but probably not dangerous.

  18. AshtonFirefly profile image83
    AshtonFireflyposted 4 years ago

    I do not trust any of the candidates for Presidential election. I'm in quite the dilemmma.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      As am I.

    2. ITcoach profile image61
      ITcoachposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      But you need to cast your vote to the right one. which you think in your honest opinion

  19. ITcoach profile image61
    ITcoachposted 4 years ago

    In presidential election, will you cost your vote to Obama, if Yes then why..what is the reason and do you agree what he done in his presidential tenure..

    1. Pcunix profile image90
      Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Wow.  I assumed  that "cost your vote" was a typo.

      Apparently not.

      I fully support new standards for literacy.  Anyone who thinks they are "costing" their vote should be given a voucher that they can use to buy a dictionary of their choice.  I demand Federal legislation to make these vouchers a reality!

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
        Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I know it's a typo, and I thought he would correct himself, but I want to point out one thing:

        Voting DOES have a cost, this is why many don't bother partaking in it.

        It's usually a very minimal cost, such as "not getting off your butt and then driving 500 yards to the polling booth to stand in line for 15 minutes". But it is a cost nonetheless.

        No malice here, just wanted to point it out.

  20. politicalzealot profile image61
    politicalzealotposted 4 years ago

    If it is Romney v Obama I will vote 4 Romney. I might could vote 4 Newt, Paul, or Huntsman over Obama as well. If Santorum is the nom though, I will vote 4 Obama.

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
      Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I can't honestly see a difference between Romney and Obama.

  21. Paul Wingert profile image80
    Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago

    Obama will get my vote. I don't care for the current GOP lineup. Peryy is another Bush, Ron Paul is a whackjob, and Romney can't keep his BS stories straight.

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    oldandwiseposted 4 years ago

    I'll be voting for President Obama, economy is coming around and unemployment is going down. None of the GOP impress me. And no, I'm an independent.

    1. American View profile image60
      American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      OAW,

      I am sure you realize the unempoyment numbers are false, just a campain trick. I wrote an article 8 months ago to not be surprised if the rate goes down because Obama needs it to. Also do not discount the fact that unemployment always goes down in November and December due to the temporary hires for the holiday season. You will find that the new hores report will be adjusted down, you will see the unemployment numbers go up in the January and Febuary reports. But despite that you will find that the unemplotment number will not go up as quickly as it has come down. And without looking up the month, there were 2 months where there were NO new hires, therefore the 22 months statement from the Whitehouse is false.

      I too am an independent. I also am not pleased with the Repub candidates. The only one I would vote for is Huntsman and he is getting no traction.

      1. Pcunix profile image90
        Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Oh, sure.  Why don't they just make them 6% then?  Or better yet, 3%?

        Sometimes y'all really blow my mind..

        1. American View profile image60
          American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          PC,

          You can sit there and have blinders on, or you can go read the real report and break it down for your self. Have you not questioned why if 10,000 new jobs are addedc the rate goes down, but in other months when the net is a loss of 10,000 or more the rate does not go up? Now that is just common sence without even breaking down the numbers. Everyone knows that on average in December companies do not hire full time employees. So it would not be a suprise for someone on unemployment to take the month off from looking for a job. Does not mean they gave up their check or status, but the do not get counted as unemployed. Last month that was 2.6 million people simply because they did not look for a job yet are still unemployed and getting a check. Would you not agree adding those 2.6 million people would make a serious change on the unemployment number? Of course not because we are blowing your mind. The LONG TERM unemployment number, which means people unemployed for 27 weeks or more, is unchanged. Really, well if people are going back to work I wonder why the LONG TERM unemployment is not going down.

          From the report
          "
          Employment in transportation and warehousing rose sharply in December (+50,000). Almost all of the gain occurred in the couriers and messengers industry (+42,000); seasonal hiring was particularly strong in December"

          Seasonal, I think that backs what I said about unemployment going down in December traditionaly, but the question is when these 50,000 get layed off this month will the unemployment number go up? I will bet you know despite the fact it should, it will not. Oh by the way, mark my words, this current report will get revised down, just like the report for November was revised from +120,000 to +100,00.  When they do do you think the unemployment rate will adjust back? I doubt it. The important numbers that would project the future is construction, professional and business services, all remain unchanged.

          http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

    2. Rastamermaid profile image71
      Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      http://s4.hubimg.com/u/6003655.jpg


      I'm with the 2 above me!!!

    3. ITcoach profile image61
      ITcoachposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Due to all this, you will vote to Obama ?

    4. ITcoach profile image61
      ITcoachposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Due to all this, you will vote to Obama ?

  23. ITcoach profile image61
    ITcoachposted 4 years ago

    In spite of all these factors  you will again cost your vote to President Obama.

  24. ITcoach profile image61
    ITcoachposted 4 years ago

    You didn't think Osama and others death his biggest achievement.

    1. Paul Wingert profile image80
      Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Ending the war in Iraq can't be overlooked.

      1. American View profile image60
        American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I see how well leaving Iraq is going. It will onlt be a few months before Iraq will be under terrorist control.

        1. politicalzealot profile image61
          politicalzealotposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          It is not and should not ever be our responsibility to run another country. Especially when that other country asks us to leave. Iraq is doing what they did for decades before Saddam took control. The two major factions within Iraq are trying to take over and push the other one aside. The fighting going on there has nothing to do with Iran. In fact, if Iran did try to takeover Iraq, I would bet both factions in Iraq would join forces to fight them. The Iraqis have never been fond of the Persians (Iranians) and will not let them takeover their country.

          1. American View profile image60
            American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            PZ,

            I agree we do not need to be running other countries, but do not be niave as to who is backing those looking to overthow the government.

            1. politicalzealot profile image61
              politicalzealotposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Read the headlines of the recent attacks: "Iraq bombings targeting Shiites kill 71"

              http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/05 … s-20120106

              This is a struggle between Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq. Saddam and everyone that has controlled Iraq in the past several decades were Sunnis. They are fighting to regain their control.

              If this was Iran's doing, the headline would read the opposite, "Iraq bombings targeting Sunnis kill 71" because Iran is predominately Shia. It doesn't read this way because the Iranians are not involved. This is an internal struggle, not an external one.

              1. American View profile image60
                American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this
                1. politicalzealot profile image61
                  politicalzealotposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  War Drums are what I see there. Nothing substantial. I am going off of hundreds of years of history. Sunnis and Shiites hate each other. Iraq is primarily a Sunni nation whereas Iran is mostly Shiite. Iraq will fight to the death to stop Iran from taking them over.

                  The article from London Evening Standard says right in it that there is no proof, only conjecture. War drums. The article from irantracker.org is part of the AEI which has been beating the war drums against Iran for years. The WSJ article makes a claim without proof. This is all war drums.

                  Let me ask you a question. Did you believe the story that the elite Revolutionary Guard of Iran had a used car salesman plot to kill the Saudi ambassador on US soil? Think about that? The RG is similar to our CIA, or Israel's Mossad. Yet, they got a used car saleman to do the work? It's a false flag. It didn't happen. The whole thing is designed to have the people ready to go to war with Iran at the drop of a hat.

                  When they decide the time is right, something will happen. It maybe innocuous or it maybe something major. Either way, we will go to war with Iran. The cards have already been dealt. That is my prediction.

                  1. American View profile image60
                    American Viewposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Let me ask you, do you believe he was a used car salesman? Please. Are you OK they are going to execute a former Marine?

                    You can blow it off as most on the left will do. That is why the world thinks we are weak and will do whatever they want. Let me know how you feel after we miss just one of the plots and they succeed. Oh then you will yell we ignored the signs.

  25. Greek One profile image81
    Greek Oneposted 4 years ago

    Voting for the Republican candidate would be a huge mittstake

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    kdawsonposted 4 years ago

    Of course.  I don't care much what he's done or not done.  I'll never vote for any of the Republican weasels with their corporate masters and evangelical friends.  They are pretty much my definition of evil.

    1. poeticmentor profile image80
      poeticmentorposted 4 years ago in reply to this

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      STRAIGHT UP WAR CRIMINALS!! CONGRESS IS A JOKE. THEY ALL NEED TO BE FIRED! I VOTE FOR WHO EVER FIRES CONGRESS!!. unlikely but hey I can HOPE can't I? Sadly I fear any GOP taking office.  Being president of the US is a very difficult job I am sure. I can't imagine the tugging and pulling that this man goes through. He has been criticized even before he won, so I am praying that he "SHAKES THE HATERS OFF" and keep doing what he can the best way he knows how.. Congress has been his obstacle,more than any issue he has faced, intentionally causing chaos and doing everything in their power to make Obama look bad.If they would just support him and stop trying to pick out everything "wrong" maybe this country can begin to turn around. How do we get stronger in a divided house. We can't no matter who is in office. Be careful what you buy into with any of these politicians, including Obama, he is not excluded no matter his  color he is still a politician. and well we know politicians sell their souls just to get that vote.  Just research, question everything and VOTE. But I got Obama's Back because he needs us more than ever now. 1

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image83
        Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Obama didn't stop the wars when he had the chance.

        1. ITcoach profile image61
          ITcoachposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          and due to war Americans are are facing economic problems.Is it right ?

        2. Rastamermaid profile image71
          Rastamermaidposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Why didn't  George W stop the wars from starting,when he had a chance?

          Obama is doing big things despite the opposition of Congress, he's cleaning up Bush's mess. His agenda  is clear to me and many others,he wants America at it's best. He wants people to pay their fair share to be accountable and respect the freedoms that we have. He wants to leave America in better shape than when he came into office. And with the way Bush left it,he's doing GREAT!

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    geordmcposted 4 years ago

    Then vote for the Independent or ANY of the candidates! JUST VOTE!!!

  28. quatrain profile image74
    quatrainposted 4 years ago

    Obama has the best campaign graphics art, hands down. His voice has the smoker's rasp and tenor which makes it memorable. The guy's a gifted campaigner. But he's an inexplicably poor leader. Truly bad at it. The New York Times reporter's book out today highlight's the First Lady's pivotal role in pushing the ObamaCare agenda through. She seems to be the real maven and the one with the thrust. Too bad I disagree with almost every single policy position the Obamas have taken. What is it-- 10 and 1/2 months to go? Can't wait to pull the lever for the last one standing against Obama.

  29. Paul Wingert profile image80
    Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago

    Of the GOP candidates, I can't decide which one is the lesser evil. They're all a bunch of clowns. Will be voting for Obama again.

  30. ITcoach profile image61
    ITcoachposted 4 years ago

    But Obama definitely use Osama's death as his achievement in his tenure.

  31. maxoxam41 profile image78
    maxoxam41posted 4 years ago

    In default of a better. Where are the kuciniches, the Naders...?

  32. ITcoach profile image61
    ITcoachposted 4 years ago

    If I suppose it is right that you said then how you compare the  advancement in economy in Bush and Obama 's tenure..Despite the down fall of over all economy.

 
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