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Dr. Ron Paul

  1. Kyle Payne profile image62
    Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago

    Please, I would love to hear your thoughts on Dr. Ron Paul, but please try to prohibit yourself from disrespect.

    1. Wayne Brown profile image86
      Wayne Brownposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Paul is a real mixed bag. His strength is in his fiscal conservatism (if he could truly deliver it. Having a voting record of voting against everything does not show promise that anything can be accomplished other than blocking the door.  His other problem is his stance on foreign policy which when boiled down simply makes him an isolationist.  The USA could certainly exercise a better discretion in its world involvement but there are too many international threats that will come to our door steps if we do not confront them early on somewhere else. Opposing candidates will take Paul to the mat on that perspective and make him look quite wreckless.  With all respect, Paul also lacks a "presidential demeanor" at least for me. He is a bit of a "chicken little type" delivering the message that the sky is falling in a high pitched voice. This is not the image most Americans will want to back with confidence. Intelligence doe not always win the day and I believe that will prove to be the case for Dr. Paul.  I also believe that the true litmus test of his regard for the dominance of conservative principles will be what he does in lieu of gaining the Republican nomination in 2012. If he takes the high road, he steps aside and supports the dominant Republican candidate. The low road will be for him to declare himself an "independent" and run for President. This will most certainly splinter the conservative vote and hand the election to Obama. I, for one, hope that Dr. Paul sees that danger and acts with compassion and responsiblity toward the conservative cause. WB

    2. 910chris profile image73
      910chrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I believe that he is a man of honesty and integrity. He comes of as a politican that I can actually believe in, unlike 99% of those fools in Washington right now. I agree with 90% of the things he says and his idea's on smaller government are exactly what we need right now. I don't believe in giving away billions of our tax payer's money as well. He predicted the financial collapse that the bailout would bring about, and he was dead on. I think this man is exactly what we need right now, not more of the same.

  2. JamesPoppell profile image85
    JamesPoppellposted 5 years ago

    I like Dr. Paul. He has my attention on all the issues except one, foreign affairs. I am with him when he states that the U.S. should not be involved in giving hand outs to the world, but he seems to want to alienate Israel. I believe we need to maintain positive ties with Israel. Thirty years ago Secretary of State Alexander M. Haig had this to say,  "Israel is the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security." I believe this comment by Secretary of State Haig still resonates today. Of course there are other reasons we should continue a good relationship with Israel but I do not want to drift off subject. Dr. Paul is a fine person and he has my respect.

  3. knolyourself profile image59
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    Ron Paul may be the only honest politician on the national level. He is a libertarian and I am a socialist so I don't agree with him on much. However he is the only anti- war, murder and mayhem presidential candidate in either party.

  4. Evan G Rogers profile image82
    Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago

    RRRRRRROOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN PPPPAAAAAAAAAAAUUUULLLLLLLLLL

    PRESIDENT RON PAUL.

    Has a nice ring to it.

    That would be epic to be one of the kids he delivered.

  5. Repairguy47 profile image60
    Repairguy47posted 5 years ago
    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      What a dumb argument.

      The people who pay him the money give it to him as campaign cash, and then they get nothing in return.

      1. Moderndayslave profile image61
        Moderndayslaveposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Actually all the rest are the same except  Ron Paul
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_ybaXhXno

      2. Repairguy47 profile image60
        Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        They get something or they wouldn't give.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Ermm... that's not necessarily true, at least not in the "handout" sense.

          I've donated quite a bit of money to Ron Paul - as have millions of others - and we don't expect anything except his principled views to run roughshod over the bloated carcass of our federal government.

          If you want to talk about "handouts" then we can look at Obama, Clinton, Bush, Romney, Gingrich, Perry, and the rest of them.

          But not Paul.

          1. Repairguy47 profile image60
            Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Errrrrm, I didn't see your name on that list, I saw donors from Big everything. You may not be getting anything but they certainly are.

            1. Moderndayslave profile image61
              Moderndayslaveposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              We need to look at the candidates agendas not whether they have their parties " Endorsement ". The country has been run into the ground by both parties. They've done such a great job so far huh? We need to throw the biggest rock we can into the Business as usual swamp and that's Ron Paul. One man won't change it all either, all of congress needs to be fired.

              1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                One man can change it all, the president can veto any bill coming from congress.

                1. Pcunix profile image88
                  Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  That's not true.  If you really are that clueless as to our legislative process, it explains much.

                  1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                    Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    He can't veto any bill? Which ones can he not veto. Teach me

            2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Oh, you missed my name? Here it is:
              http://s3.hubimg.com/u/5999406_f248.jpg

              (Also, the average donations to his campaign each money bomb is about $20-50, which means that all of the millions of dollars he generates come from hundreds of thousands of people who are putting their money where their mouths are).

              1. Repairguy47 profile image60
                Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Touche

                1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                  Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  (it took me a while to find the photo!)

  6. Pcunix profile image88
    Pcunixposted 5 years ago

    Is it disrespectful to note that most voters think his ideas are ridiculous and he has less chance of wining than Sarah Palin (who isn't even running) according to the bookmakers?

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I would have to agree with you, its almost as ridiculous as thinking Barrack Obama will be a two term president.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        HA!

        1. Pcunix profile image88
          Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You'll be crying next year when he is elected again. I'm looking forward to it.

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            You're looking forward to it, but not the "yet-unborn".

            Liberals think they can just keep spending their offspring's money without consequences.

            And, apparently, Liberals also think that sending their children to their deaths fighting Muslims is a good thing.

            When I was a liberal, we were anti-war.

            Good luck with that.

            1. Pcunix profile image88
              Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Nope.  I don't want to wish the costs of war on our children. I want us to pay for it NOW, through progressive taxes - yet another area where the "brilliant" Doctor Paul is clueless.

              Nor am I in favor of war as a solution.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Then why do you support Obomba:

                He added Trillions of dollars of debt, and he's started numerous 'unconstitutional military escapades that are basically war but not really declared'.

                Your support of Obama is nothing but hypocrisy. It was this blatant hypocrisy that made me finally wake up to the nonsense that is our government system.

    2. Kyle Payne profile image62
      Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Just curious, but why do you think so?

      1. Pcunix profile image88
        Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Check the Vegas odds.

  7. habee profile image90
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    I think Ron Paul is a good, honest man. I totally agree with some of his ideas, but I find some of his ideas "out there."

    1. Pcunix profile image88
      Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I'm a good, honest man and I'm sure you'd like some of my ideas, too.  I'd make a lousy POTUS though.  So would Paul.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That's because you don't understand economics or history.

        Paul does.

        1. Pcunix profile image88
          Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I plainly understand some things  better than he does.  I know that a Libertarian society would destroy us and neither you nor he knows enough to realize that.

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Actually, I destroyed that argument in your "libertarian" forum.

            Somalia - the anarchist nation - is better off in real terms relative to a) their government-loving neighbors, and b) compared to when they had government.

            So... stop saying that nonsense?

            1. Pcunix profile image88
              Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              No, Evan, you didn't "destroy" anything.  You spouted off a bunch of typical Libertarian nonsewnse and SAID that you destroyed it.

              You killed no dragons, Don Quixote.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Blah blah blah - go check out the exchanges between me and Jeff.

          2. 910chris profile image73
            910chrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Then are you saying the path we are on right now will not destroy us?

  8. steveamy profile image60
    steveamyposted 5 years ago

    A genuine guy who is overly enamored of Ayn Rand and has many ideas that  are simplistic and will not work in the real world.

    1. mom101 profile image60
      mom101posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Just wondering here: Of the candidates that are running, including obama, which have served anytime in any of the armed forces? Anybody know?

      1. Kyle Payne profile image62
        Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Ron Paul was a flight surgeon and rick Perry was a pilot

        1. mom101 profile image60
          mom101posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Thank you.

        2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, I openly want to correct mistakes I've made.

          I hadn't realized that Perry is a vet, I thought the only vet was Paul.

          My bad.

          1. mom101 profile image60
            mom101posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No, i wasn't referring to you. It just dawned on me that somewhere I had read one of the candidates beside Ron had served but couldn't remember which one.

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Oh, I know, but I've made the mistake before, and this was a chance to correct myself.

    2. mom101 profile image60
      mom101posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      What do people have against simple?

      We have got to get back to basics. Plain and SIMPLE.

  9. Evan G Rogers profile image82
    Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago

    A few headlines regarding Dr. Ron Paul - the primary message of this forum:

    http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ … long-haul/

    http://www.thestatecolumn.com/new-hamps … hampshire/

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/08/2 … econd.html

    When his responses to in the recent debates come out on youtube, I'll be sure to post them. He lit up the stage when he talked about rights.

  10. Tom Koecke profile image61
    Tom Koeckeposted 5 years ago

    I've voted for Ron Paul for President twice already. I think he has a good grasp on most everything.

    That said, I don't think libertarian economics is all it is cracked up to be. One reason is that it must, like communism, remain pure. So, do we handle dissenting thinkers the same way Stalin handled them, or, in the name of the Constitution, do we eliminate the right to speaking and gathering freely?

    Even the libertarian economics philosopher Robert Nozick seemed to think there may be reasons for the greater good to violate economic justice, even though his argument for economic justice was pretty much flawless. Perhaps it was the thought that redistribution might be necessary to prevent Marx's prediction from coming true here. Even if redistribution is unjust, it likely helps the rich more than it does the poor, but that is another subject.

    Ron Paul supporters are plentiful and loud, but there are not many who will be swayed to his way of thinking unless they are already on board. He is what he is - a potential third party candidate who will take votes away from both major parties.

    1. mom101 profile image60
      mom101posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Tom,

      I have thought this during every election I can remember.

      Could it be, that they ems/repubs alike make sure their is one person who tells it like it is, tells us what we need to know, tells us of the corruption  and so on JUST to confuse those that are easily confused? I hate to think this but to throw the election.

      Wouldn't it be historical if that candidate actually won? i'd love to see it happen. Just once.

  11. A Troubled Man profile image59
    A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago

    I think Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate who has NOT publicly announced God is on his side and supports his nomination.

    1. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You ought to write a hub about that.

      1. A Troubled Man profile image59
        A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        How so? Should I write about why Ron Paul wouldn't make such a ridiculous public statement or about why the other candidates did?

        1. Repairguy47 profile image60
          Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Who cares, just write a hub.

          1. A Troubled Man profile image59
            A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Exactly. smile

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I'm changing my stance, I prefer that you do not write a hub.

          2. Castlepaloma profile image23
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Don Paul is too good to be president, his best bet is just keep informing the public.

            1. Repairguy47 profile image60
              Repairguy47posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I agree, who is Don Paul?

              1. Castlepaloma profile image23
                Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                oowwps Ron

                He won't be the Don

  12. Ralph Deeds profile image69
    Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago

    To borrow a phrase from Thomas Frank, Ron Paul's understanding of economics "borders on complete fantasy."

    1. Pcunix profile image88
      Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No, actually I think "borders on" is a bit too kind..

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Said the person who thinks that "printing money out of thin air" is a good thing...

  13. Perspycacious profile image80
    Perspycaciousposted 5 years ago

    Ron Paul, to me, is in the right party because the Republicans are noted for believing in minimum government at the federal level and more local government (state and local) where government is more likely to reflect an accurate and up-to-date view of the governed.  Unfortunately, Ron Paul, to me, comes across as an isolationist whose views are inconsistent with the modern world of interconnectedness.  Republicans, when elected, will do much of what I find attractive in Ron Paul's views, without putting Ron Paul in charge of every responsibility of the Executive Branch. Romney has a well-stated plan for getting Americans back to work, so America can get a respite from a splintered Congress whose views are so set in stone that they are unable to turn off the money faucets... though three years has shown they knew how to replace them with even larger faucets (wastefully spilling lots in the process!)  We simply can't afford what we already have, and the promised "Change" led all of us deeper into the tunnel, not closer to the light.

    1. mom101 profile image60
      mom101posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Ok, i can't stand it no more.

      Is the title or the label democrat   republican  independent  or any other label going to turn this country around?

      No, it is not. No it will not.

      The time for politics that our grandparents use to enjoy are history. It used to be a good thing to belong to one (the party of your choice). now, it is the person and what they will do. NOT WHAT THEY SAY THEY WILL DO.

      Another I can't believe they did this is, DON'T VOTE ON LOOKS.  These people don't know you exist, chances are they will never see you. Who cares what THEY look like.

      Debt? the only way to get rid of it is to pay it off and don' t do it again.

      Our debt was 0.  Upon leaving office a bill was passed. WHY was this bill passed. Please don't give me this story about to help our economy

      There is money in these here United States of America. There is. But, just as soon as it is made, it goes to just about any country you want to mention.

      Want to pay the debt, put a tax on the money that people here send out of this country.

      Want to get this country back to where it once was? You know, the time when we had rights. The solution is simple. But wait, it ain't juicy enough, or hip enough, or whatever enough. BASICS.

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Isolationist is NOT the same thing as "non-interventionist"

      Isolationism: Don't do anything with anyone; even ban international trade.

      Non-interventionist: let the other countries do as they wish so long as they don't interfere with our trade directly.

 
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