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What is it with men and Newt??

  1. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 4 years ago

    I don't get it. Tonight, hubby and I had dinner with friends, and politics came up. I'm a moderate Republican, hubby is a far right Republican, Sandy is a northern liberal Democrat, and Steve is a northern Independent who supported Obama. The two men simply can't understand why we women can't see that Newt would make the best president. What are they smoking??

    After dinner, I went to a local private club, and the same topic came up. Every man at the table (Rs and Is)thought Newt would make a great POTUS, while all the women said they hated Newt. What am I missing??

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image84
      Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Newt? Really?

      The guy wants to send your children off to war, but never went himself; he cried because he didn't get to sit in the big-boy section of the airplane; he's married numerous women - one was his high school geometry teacher who he had apparently been banging - yet he espouses 'family values'; when he's asked a question at a debate, he doesn't answer it, he just says that the media is liberal...

      ... what's there to like? He's sub-human.

      1. habee profile image92
        habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I sure have gained a new respect for Ron Paul for not jumping on the Romney-bashing train. Mitt should choose him for VP!

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image84
          Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I think Paul should pick Romney for VP.

          1. mel22 profile image61
            mel22posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            either way, it would make a heck of a ruckus and get all possible GOP votes from those who would not have considered the other candidate without the other running paralell

          2. habee profile image92
            habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I knew you were gonna say that, Evan! lol

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image84
              Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Honestly, though, Ron Paul should pick Romney because it'll give him "Flip-Flop" street credit.

              People who have heard that Ron Paul doesn't take kick-backs will be more likely to elect him when they see that Romney is his VP.

    2. fpherj48 profile image80
      fpherj48posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Habee! No doubt I'm a woman....hubby & I are both Independents...he leans left, I lean right, but we both VOTE OUR CONSCIENCE/THE BEST MAN...as opposed to party. I would not describe Newt as a manly-man under any circumstances.  That's neither here nor there.  The adjectives I would use for Newt can be said privately and quietly only....I can honestly tell you that not a soul in our circle (socially, professionally and/or politically) has given a positive nod toward Newt other than the fact that he's an "intellectual." We hear of no one actually praising, pulling for him or supporting him.  The man in our neck of the woods this month is Mitt.  There's also been a surprising surge for Paul. I'm reserving comment myself. It would be unfair of me to take a stand at this point in time.  I can't explain the Newt (male) fans from your part of the country, but if I'm following as well as I believe I am,& getting my info from valid sources.....I would say Newt is not at all popular in most other areas. For the first time in my voting history, I admit to being on the edge of "frightened."  Never felt this EMPTY before.  Sorry my reply is so lengthy....like I said at the start..."I'm a woman" lol...all of your replies should prove to be very interesting.  Thanks for the question, Habee.

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image71
      Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You're not missing anything. Newt would make a horrible president. He lacks character, the most important qualification as exemplified by Harry Truman. Moreover, Newt was the original fomenter of extreme partisanship. If you worry about the current situation in Congress, he's not your man.

      1. livelonger profile image91
        livelongerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I think that's the main part of his appeal to a certain type of voter, for whom politics is sport. (You can tell them from people who are serious by the vapidity of their arguments)

    4. Alexander Mark profile image89
      Alexander Markposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      It's the emotional appeal. I think Huckabee might have been a hit with the ladies and maybe now Santorum, but Newt comes across as a man's man because he's confident and completely unwavering in his political stance. This seems to erase any mistakes he has made - and in the male world, it's okay to forget past indiscretions if you appear to have completely made a turn around. Newt's bluster does this, but I am one man who hates that guy.

      Not only do I hate his checkered past, but he's a bulldozer when it comes to individual rights VS national security and has absolutely no desire to honor the principles of the Constitution and the principles that this country was founded on. In short, he is like a soldier that achieves his goals by killing half his squad mates in the process.

      Trouble is, we do need someone strong, but with some self awareness to know when to throttle up and when to throttle back. Santorum seems a little too nice, but like Obama, if he gets into office, his hair will turn gray and he'll step up to the plate - and I'd rather have Santorum do that than Mitt!

    5. uncorrectedvision profile image61
      uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I haven't supported Gingrich at all ever and I am as conservative as they come.  He is a media whore.  He is not firm, at all, on conservative ideas, he waves his Catholicism around like a banner, he is easily rolled on things like "Global Warming,"  he is more than willing to place his "conservatism" aside for personal gain - monetary or perceived.

      If we are to talk about his personal life - how is he any different than John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy?  The only Democrat of any real public note who hasn't screwed around seems to be Jimmy Carter and he pronounces nuclear just like "W" so he must be an idiot.

      1. habee profile image92
        habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Good to know at least one conservative man sees through Newt for the media "ho" he is! lol

        1. Pcunix profile image91
          Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Considering who that person is and what the rest of his political views are, I almost think that's really an endorsement - that is, being disliked by that hubber is probably good reason to like Newt.

          1. habee profile image92
            habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Kinda how I feel about Palin and Romney. lol

          2. uncorrectedvision profile image61
            uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You should love Newt - he turned the election in New York 26 into a defeat for Republicans.  Sounds like your kind of guy.

    6. Repairguy47 profile image60
      Repairguy47posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      What is a moderate republican? I think what you mean to say is you are a democrat.

      1. habee profile image92
        habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Nope. I don't believe in big government like the Dems. I'm also pro-second amendment and for states' rights. I'm moderate on social issues, like gay rights. I don't care what folks do in their bedrooms, as long as it doesn't harm anyone.

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      logic,commonsenseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      After the last week, with his slash and burn campaign, I'm pretty sure Newt is on the payroll of the Democrats.
      No one really knows why he got in, but I'm guessing when he sat with Pelosi, he got a big fat retainer to attack Romney and Paul.
      He couldn't debate Obama, he agrees with many of Obama's policies.

  2. Cagsil profile image83
    Cagsilposted 4 years ago

    The level of willful ignorance in this country is presently at it's highest ever? lol

    1. habee profile image92
      habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Gosh, Ray, I think I have to agree with you!

  3. livelonger profile image91
    livelongerposted 4 years ago

    Smug confidence.

    1. habee profile image92
      habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Has Newt put a spell on them? Is it because he's a "manly man"?? lol

      1. livelonger profile image91
        livelongerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        lol I think he has the confidence that lots of men (esp conservatives) respect in their leader (never mind that that confidence is built on nothing). I think that was the reason Perry was so popular until that confidence faltered in the debates.

  4. Ron Montgomery profile image59
    Ron Montgomeryposted 4 years ago

    I am the manliest of men and I know Newt would be a disaster in the White House.  Are you sure these other men you speak of are "all man".

  5. Pcunix profile image91
    Pcunixposted 4 years ago

    You REALLY don't know that men are generally less clueful than women?

  6. I am DB Cooper profile image66
    I am DB Cooperposted 4 years ago

    I think men have an easier time dismissing Newt's personal failings than women. Cheating on his first two wives and filing for a divorce from one while she had cancer (and continuing to lie about it and say she was the one who wanted the divorce) is something that women aren't as likely to forgive or forget. Republican men just remember him as the guy who always opposed Bill Clinton.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image61
      uncorrectedvisionposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      And yet he shares so many of Clinton's attributes, one must wonder why Newt is still a Republican.

  7. Doc Snow profile image97
    Doc Snowposted 4 years ago

    Besides, this man would like to point out that Newt is now officially a 'flip-flopper.'

    (Apparently that is nearly a mortal sin--or was, at least, for John Kerry.) ;-)

  8. habee profile image92
    habeeposted 4 years ago

    You know, I can sorta understand why Hubby likes Newt, but in no way can I see anything that former Obama-supporter (and from "up North") Steve would find attractive in such an odious man as Newt. I honestly think my husband just wants to see Newt debate Obama. I swear, I think we're going to get a divorce over this GOP primary! lol

  9. msorensson profile image64
    msorenssonposted 4 years ago

    Oh dear..
    I am afraid I am not educated enough on both politics and the candidates..I did enjoy reading the posts..What candidness..I love it.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image25
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Politics has become so much like fairy tale or ugly show business. If I ignored for a long enough time, the collective conscious people's will get sick and tired enough to change things for a better balance. Power to the People YAHOOOO!

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    oldandwiseposted 4 years ago

    I think most men realize, that Romney has no idea what the needs and wants of the average American is. I'll go further to say, most don't like Newt, but at least they know what they're getting for their votes. Romney is a silver spooned person who never got his hands dirty. Other then to leverage buy, bankrupt and reap the rewards of the unsuspecting working man and women. Then leave the tax payers with the government backed pensions owed to the workers.

  11. secularist10 profile image92
    secularist10posted 4 years ago

    Newt Gingrich is a liar, a thief and an adulterer. It's one thing to have "youthful indiscretions," but Newt has been this way for years into his current life.

    The biggest problem is that he is a basically imperious personality. Everything is about him. He believes he is infallible, and is God's gift to America.

    Hence his desire to take federal judges to task when he personally disagrees with them. I think that proposal is the closest thing to fascism/ dictatorship this country has seen in a very long time.

    Newt is, in a way, the Mike "Situation" of American politics. His self-confidence is delusional. He has no shame. But it gets him results. Perhaps it is this Nietzschean "superman" quality that attracts some men.


  12. Wayne Brown profile image83
    Wayne Brownposted 4 years ago

    Habee...I understand it as I wrestle with it myself. I am a conservative and tend to vote Republican most of the time. On the one hand, we hear that Newt is very intelligent and has a wealth of experience. On the other hand, I see a side of Newt that says he still has quite and ego and can be a loose cannon properly riled. At that point, he does not understand the limitations of his intelligence and begins to work on instinct.  The other thing that eats at me is that Newt, like McCain, is old news. Not taking anything aways from either one...I respect both of them in some way. But, I think McCain was the nominee for the Republicans in 2008 because too many in the establishment felt that it was his turn.  Newt strikes me the same way but more like something that was reincarnated from the early 90's.

    In some ways, and I think this may be true of his husband and other conservatives, we lack a candidate who fits our needs.  Paul is lost in the weeds on foreign policy.  Perry, as much as I like him as a governor in Texas, cannot seem to get through a week with the media citing some stumble of stupidity.  Huntsman...forget about it.  That leaves me with Santorium. Unfortunately, the media is not willing to give the guy enough fact time to become a viable consideration. So, even if I were to back him I am very afraid that my only choice will come down to Romney.  I will vote for Romney over Obama but I don't see him as the best choice to carry the conservative banner in 2012. WB

  13. mel22 profile image61
    mel22posted 4 years ago

    electoral college strategy might be to pick up an iffy state such as Pennsylvania with a popular person from the state such as Santorum... Cali goes donkey every year. Texas goes elephant. that leaves a few large delegate swing states such as florida, Penn, to put in a VP that could win a big needed state.. i think thats why santorum had a showing originally. It was spotlight for a possible VP run in my opinion ( although I don't particularly seem to agree with him myself it may just be GOP strategy.)

  14. mel22 profile image61
    mel22posted 4 years ago

    wait.. Texas goes donkey sometimes too...at least in Juarez.. or so I hear

    1. habee profile image92
      habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      eeewwwwwww. lol lol lol