Does Capitalism breed ignorance?

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   Philanthropy2012posted 12 years ago

   No references to historical alternatives, please.

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No.

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      Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No.

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      f_hruzposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, when capitalism becomes as dominant as it has in the US - to exclusion of social and cultural development of an peaceful international order - it surely and quite visibly does!

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   WhoBeYouBeposted 12 years ago

   No, it does not... or the whole of the American experience would be nothing.
   
   An ignorant people do not move forward. America has not only moved forward in all areas, but we have brought the world with us.
   
   Capitalism has made this the greatest nation on earth.
   
   Socialism and dependency mentallity which accompanies it, interjected into this system, has destroyed it. Just as it has europe.

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      Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Top five happiest countries in the World
      
      !. Denmark
      2. Switerland
      3. Austria
      4. Finland
      5. Iceland
      
      Socialism interjected  system must of destroyed much of Europe with kindness.

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         WhoBeYouBeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         All of which are miniscule in population and do not give an accurate impression of Socialism and its ways.
         
         besides, all that jewish/german treasure and wealth worked out nice for a couple of those countries.

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            Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You mean Jews from the OT, the ones who needed new rule from NT to stop them from making love to camels or turtles or something

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               WhoBeYouBeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               No.
               
               I mean the jewish Gold, Art, and other wealth, the NAZIs stole and deposited in Swiss accounts, among others.
               
               And where would you get beastiallity from in the middle of this conversation?

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                  John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  So you're saying that looted Jewish treasure is still responsible for Europe's wealth 60 years on!
                  
                  Rubbish.

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                     WhoBeYouBeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     NO. I am saying it made a good lil bank-roll after the war to get them back on their feet, among other wealth.

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                        John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Get who back on their feet, Tom?

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                        Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Please leave minute historical details out of a scale of trillions £/$, these countries did not get any significant economical advantage from Jewish treasure.

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                           John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Actually, a lot of the Jewish "treasure" is still firmly locked in Swiss bank vaults.

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                  Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  WhoBeYouBe
                  
                  I'm kidding about making love to camels or turtles, my point is theJews were very lawless in OT and Today a good degree of Socialism with a fair degree of Capitalism works well together, not this greedy grabbing money stuff.

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         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I think corporation corruption breed greed of dollar bottom line profit rather than true profit to the customers

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            Josakposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            No, Ignorance breeds ignorance combined with propaganda, is not capitalism's fault that so many in the US are ignorant, its the fault of the ignorant for not trying to learn and the politicians who brainwash them, WhoBeYouBE is an excellent example of that 50s brainwashing at work, the perfect worker ant, smart enough to sort of be able to defend his points and dumb enough to never question them.

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         Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         What, 2 of those countries are bankrupt?
         
         ... ok.

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            Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Money has the least to do about money, about  60% of countries will be bankrupt within 50 years, Unless we get a handle or take back the 1% over control

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               Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Change that
               
               I mean, happiness has the least to do about money,

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      John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hey buddy, Europe isn't destroyed yet, in fact it's looking healthier than the US.

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         Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         So is Canada

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            Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            in the top ten too.

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         WhoBeYouBeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes the credit down-grades looked very healthy.
         
         C'mon... please.

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            John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            But eg Greece isn't the whole of Europe. Germany, for example, has been doing far better than the US, both in employment figures and wages.
            We aren't doing so badly in the UK either, don't forget that there is a global recession in place.
            
            You need to really look at the bigger picture rather than just say we in the US are great, therefore everybody else must be worse off.

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               WhoBeYouBeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               More than Greece got down-graded, was it 6 or 9 countries?
               
               And I fully expect germany to rule the E.U.
               
               But more than greece got down-graded, John.

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                  Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  So you are basically saying the the US is doing great under President Obama. Good for you.

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                     WhoBeYouBeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     At what point did you read those words?
                     
                     Please do not put words in my mouth.
                     
                     I have not said the US is doing fine under Obama because it is not. he is managing the decline of our economy and the collapse of our Dollar.
                     
                     So no... not fine at all.

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                  John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Hence the eg Greece!
                  
                  And six countries out of 27! And how many US states are failing?

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      f_hruzposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Capitalism as practiced in the US exploits other countries under the threat of war and can't exist without constant wars. It combines brainwashing of the population with nationalism, religion and consumerism at an enormous cost  to public health, education and social development in general.

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         Castlepalomaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I agree, accept switch the word capitalism to corporationism

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   S Leretsehposted 12 years ago

   Capitalism breed ignorance?
   
   I believe it breeds a proper "structure," that is,  for those people capable of creating occupational ranking societal structures. Legislative laws should not be used to interfere with the natural order of human societies.

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      Philanthropy2012posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What dare I ask is the natural order?

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   Philanthropy2012posted 12 years ago

   Edward Bernays (Freud's nephew) is famous for inventing many techniques that help companies sell products, and increase people's reputation (namely, presidents). He is thought of by some as the father of capitalism. He himself said frequently that people are stupid, and easy to manipulate. He proved this with the American populace, some of whom are now unbelievably ignorant about the most simplest of things.
   
   Despite apparently one of the most funded education systems, the USA, said to be the most capitalistic country of all, seems to fail in in their mass education; ranking only 25th for math and 17th for science. Finland and South Korea, taking the top spot.
   
   It seems therefore, that although the USA contributes a lot to science, medicine etc. in the modern world, It is only a very small minority that is able to get to an intelligent position, much like in the old UK class system. It can be said then, that capitalism breeds a class system, based on the circumstances you were born in and the luck that you achieve in your life, instead of one based on the family you were born into (UK classical class system/India's caste system).
   
   Considering that humans are generally not born more intelligent than others, it must be noted that there is something else that is driving the dumbing down of the average US citizen.
   
   It must be considered then that Capitalistic leaders are allowing, or encouraging this to happen, through the means of consumerism.
   
   This is tied in with the idea that stupid people will listen better, and buy more things without questioning as much as smarter ones. Also there is the idea that stupid people will not stand up for their rights as often, and certainly, be much easier to distract (wars, moon landings etc.) when needs be.
   
   These were the sort of ideas I was hoping would be developed, as some of you I see have. Though the answer of "no" is as much use to anyone as the blank space that was there beforehand.

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