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Are Republicans dumb??

  1. habee profile image90
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    I've always said that I didn't think Mitt would win in SC, and now Newt is ahead in the state in several polls. The GOP has gone so far to the right that they don't want a moderate. It just boggles my mind that any reasonable person could back Newt. If you think we have gridlock in Washington now, it will be 200% worse if Newt gets to be POTUS. It will be "my way or the highway" even more than it is now. At least Mitt has proven that he can compromise and work with Dems. Of course, the ABC interview with Newt's ex-wife will air before the SC primary, so perhaps voters will see more of the "real" Newt.

    I don't like everything about Mitt, but compared to Newt, he's a saint! If the GOP nominates Newt, I think they'll be shooting themselves in the foot. They HAVE to have some indies in order to win, and I can't see many indies jumping on the Newt train.

    I'd choose Paul over Newt any day.

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The Neo Cons have hi-jacked the Republican party AND the Democratic party.

      They think that the US must preserve it's purpose and instill it's values in others.

      In so doing, they've lost track of what US values are.

      1. habee profile image90
        habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Evan, what are your thoughts on Newt?

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          It's impossible to have an opinion on Newt because he doesn't stand for anything.

          Give him $50 and he'll tell you that the Earth is flat.

          Give him $100 and he'll dance like a monkey.

          Give him $1.6 million and he'll help out Fannie and Freddie.

          1. steveamy profile image60
            steveamyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            at least we agree on Newt

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              He was also banging his High School geometry teacher.

              Today, he would tell us that this is uncalled for and that the teacher should be thrown in jail.

              I can't express how much this man should be tarred and feathered.

              1. Mighty Mom profile image90
                Mighty Momposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                +1 on that, Evan.

                1. habee profile image90
                  habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  +1 on your +1, MM! How can the people of SC be so blind??

              2. Ralph Deeds profile image68
                Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                "Gingrich was also banging his High School geometry teacher."

                First time I heard that. Thanks, Evan. Maybe they can dig her up for Nightline also.

                1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                  Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  It's actually common knowledge:

                  http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ele … _blog.html

                  Lol, they have dug her up - she was his first wife. Then, while she was dying of cancer, he was out banging other girls.

                  The guy's an absolute $#!7 bag.

                  1. Lady In NC profile image61
                    Lady In NCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    You are wrong ,no wonder why however , washington post is liberal leaning news source rag .. Read facts before believing lies ,,, Newts daughter get stories straight  ......www.creators.com › Opinion › Jackie Gingrich Cushman

                    Sad to see so many judge a person before judging themselves ..

                  2. marriedwithdebt profile image89
                    marriedwithdebtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Newt never published a racist and homophobic newsletter, though. What kind of a $#@% bag would do something like that?


                    (*cough...Ron Paul)

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image68
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I agree, Newt would be my last choice. I'd even take Santorum over Newt, and that's going pretty far, for me. I don't think any of them can beat Obama unless unemployment starts back up again.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Employment's going to go up this year because it's an election year.

        All of that 0% interest rate is going to start to have it's POSITIVE effect this year.

        Then it will come crashing down about 5 from now.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Edit: LOL!! Did I say 0%? I meant to say "Negative".

          I forgot that IRs are at 0% officially, but that the Fed is printing money on the order of trillions and secretly bailing people out.

          You're officially losing money if you have cash.

          Oh, and I suppose I shouldn't say that it HAS to go up. Stagflation (you know, the one phenomenon that your school of economics was disproven because of?) has been going on for the past 3-4 years.

          I'm just saying that it is likely to end this year.

        2. Lady In NC profile image61
          Lady In NCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Wake up liberal ,,Learn Facts

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            ... i'm...not... a liberal...

            Can ANYONE come to my defense on this one?

            Deeds? Berndt? Pcunix? Can someone correct this lady?

          2. kerryg profile image86
            kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            LOL, you must be new.

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              finally, someone came to my defense!

      2. kerryg profile image86
        kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Santorum, seriously? The man is as much a lying, hypocritical sack of, well, santorum as Newt is, and he doesn't have Newt's brains.

        Truthfully, I haven't decided whether someone with brains but no integrity would be better or worse for the country than someone with no brains AND no integrity, but the choice is awful enough it's almost making me nostalgic for Shrub. Almost. tongue

      3. MyFavoriteBedding profile image59
        MyFavoriteBeddingposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        SOMEBODY better get Obama out of the White House.  ANYBODY is better than Obama!!!!!!

    3. IntimatEvolution profile image81
      IntimatEvolutionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah habee,  I am with you.  Newt has lost his mind.  Giving him the bid is crazy.  But I think the R's have lost their way anyway.  As a former Newt fan from his days
      back in the '90's- I
      am embarrassed
      that I ever use to
      like him.  His
      ideology these days
      is temperanced in
      racism and hate. 
      Sad really, to see
      someone who was
      great once, fall so
      far in my opinion...

    4. secularist10 profile image89
      secularist10posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Romney will be the nominee, and Obama will win the general election. So no worries about Newt.

      However, I do think a Gingrich presidency would be HIGHLY entertaining. Every other day there would be an allegation of adultery. Every State of the Union would feature at least one errant egg flying toward the President's gigantic head.

      *A politically incorrect remark every morning before breakfast (directed toward the group du jour--blacks, Native Americans, women, gays, women, atheists, women, bald men, Vietnam veterans... women, etc)

      *A threat of war against France by lunch,

      *And a "serious" proposal to abolish the judicial branch by dinner (or at least merge it into the Oval Office).

      And through it all we would smile, shake our heads, and say "that's our Newt!" and go on with our day.

    5. Daniella Lopez profile image88
      Daniella Lopezposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Newt's surge just proves that people don't really pay attention to much of anything but a smooth talker. If Paul or Romney had the oratory skills of Newt, they'd have the nomination in the bag. Thankfully, that's all Newt really has going for him, so hopefully he wont surge much further.

  2. Greek One profile image80
    Greek Oneposted 5 years ago

    Obama is going to win the next election.. the GOP knows it...

    best that any serious candidates prepare for 2016

    1. habee profile image90
      habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Greek, if the economy continues to improve, I agree - I think Obama will win.

      1. Greek One profile image80
        Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        it is bound to get better.. and when it does.. the election is over

      2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Employment probably will go up this year.

        But so will inflation.

    2. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You're talking about Chris Christie, right? I don't support him but he's the only one in the field who's not a complete joke.

      Romney's going to get the nomination, now that the majority of GOP voters have exhausted all the anybody-but-Romney choices. Most will grudgingly vote for Romney (except the Paulites). It won't be close to enough to win.

      The sad thing is that Romney's spectacular loss will be seized on by the nuts in the Republican party, who will say they really should have nominated some freak like Santorum or Gingrich, and we'll have another 4 years of an opposition party that lives in an alternate universe.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Romney could make Ron Paul his Vice President and even I wouldn't vote for him.

        He ACTUALLY supports the recent NDAA.

        He's trash to me. Utter trash.

        1. Pcunix profile image88
          Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, my.  Now I  actually wish for that ticket !

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            You're more interested in seeing my misery than seeing a good candidate come into office?

            I think this post of yours speaks volumes.

            1. Pcunix profile image88
              Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Oh, sheesh - you ought to realize by now that Paul is a dead issue - he always was.  Put a dead chicken on the ticket - it doesn't matter anyway.

              Vegas has him at 25/1 to win the nomination and 35/1 to win the Presidency.

              No Republican has a chance as of right now:  http://www.politicalbettingodds.com/201 … -odds.html

              Put a dead chicken on the ticket - it doesn't matter anyway.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                The polls have them tied.

                1. Pcunix profile image88
                  Pcunixposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Polls aren't votes and I'll trust the Vegas oddsmakers over any pollster.

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image68
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      True. The only issue as of now is which party will have a majority in the House and Senate.

  3. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 5 years ago

    I was dismayed that Huntsman bowed out before SC.
    Didn't he get the endorsement of the major newspaper there?
    I was honestly waiting for him to get his turn in the spotlight.

    IDK, it's all good theater so far and more fun to keep the mud slinging intra-party for the time being.
    It would be really anticlimactic to hand it to Romney now.

    Either way, tho, the GOP is screwed.
    If they run a neocon and he loses, they will wish they'd run moderate Romney.
    If they run Romney and he loses, they will say they would have won if only they'd run a neocon.

    The problem is the deep divide inside.
    And yeah, unless the economy takes another nosedive, it's no contest.

  4. ytsenoh profile image90
    ytsenohposted 5 years ago

    Interesting forum of dialogue.  I think Obama is going to be reelected.  I've watched the Republican debates and there have been a couple of times where my jaw dropped.  I'm not a Republican (but I come in peace!!), and I respect the views and beliefs of others.  I will say that there have been moments where I thought to myself if I were a registered Republican, I would be so embarrassed at some of the comments and monologues that have been presented.  And I'm sorry, Newt is sometimes just out of control.  He's a distraction.  I think Huntsman was so in the middle of the road that Republican voters may not have loved him.  Ron Paul has such passion in what he believes although he's kind of out there.  Romney seems to have the most business sense.  I don't see there is a "wow" candidate for the GOP.

    1. MyFavoriteBedding profile image59
      MyFavoriteBeddingposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Anyone of them is better than Obama.  I hope you are wrong, because if Obama is re-elected we are all in trouble!!!!

  5. Pcunix profile image88
    Pcunixposted 5 years ago

    No, not dumb, but you've let a crazy fringe hijack your party.  If the Dems were like this, we'd be putting up socialists as candidates.

    Y'all need to get them out and the best way to do that is to hold your nose and vote Democratic en masse to wake them up.

    That fringe certainly makes the rest of us shake our heads.

  6. ArtzGirl profile image81
    ArtzGirlposted 5 years ago

    Ron Paul and his son Rand Paul come across as very smart.  However, George W. Bush really did NOTHING for the intelligence perception of the Republican party.

    I haven't been following the Republican debates all that much... but I would imagine that Obama would be a much better speaker than the majority of other candidates.  Obama really shines in debates.  He normally keeps his cool and comes across very intelligent.

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If Ron Paul and Obama ever debated, it would be over.

      Ron Paul would win in a landslide. Democrats would wake up and start seeing their party for what it is.

      There would be a second revival of the Austrian School of Economics. (The first one was when Ron Paul debated the Republicans in 2008. Most Democrats didn't bother paying attention).

      1. Pcunix profile image88
        Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No.  People aren't as clueless as you think, Evan.

        Intelligent people spot the flaws of Libertarian philosophy no matter how artfully it is presented.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Yet... you have yet to give me a single good argument that can't be easily destroyed...

          ...

          1. Pcunix profile image88
            Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            "Easily destroyed" in YOUR mind, Evan.

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              well, you never bothered to respond. Which generally translates to "I got nothin"

  7. Angela Blair profile image89
    Angela Blairposted 5 years ago

    Right on girlfriend -- just can't get my head together for Newt. BUT, not overly thrilled about Romney either. As to Republicans being stupid -- that looks like a crap shoot to me right now -- may be worse than stupid! Admittedly, I think they're LOOKING stupid whether they are or not. I also agree with you -- few Indies on the Newt train. The Republicans have had plenty of time to come forth with a viable candidate -- don't think either Newt or Mitt fit the description. I'm still thinking about the rest of the candidates -- slim pickins' all the way around seems to me.

    1. Michele Travis profile image69
      Michele Travisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The real problem is not enough of us vote.  Do you know the % of Amerians who vote?  It has been going down.  If fewer and fewer people vote, then we will all lose.

      1. miss shelia profile image73
        miss sheliaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        true, very true!!

      2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        "Going out to vote" isn't really the solution.

        If my choices are a bunch of douchebags, then the smartest thing I can do is NOT vote.

        Voting costs money: I have to wake up, take a half hour of my time, use gasoline, and sit out in the cold.

        And then, on top of that, there's NO reassurance that the button I pressed at the poll actually voted for the person I wanted.

        1. Lady In NC profile image61
          Lady In NCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Not voting only gives a vote to the other .......Voting may cost money , it may take alittle of your time ,ya may get cold  ,,,hmm don't you think YOUR country is worth it ???
            America can't  take 4 more years of O'Socialism / dictatorship

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Republicans, except Ron Paul, are just as socialist as the D's.

            Both groups steal money from people, but the D's give it to the poor (which ultimately backfires because they don't understand economics). The R's give it to war-mongering demons.

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image68
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Smart, maybe. Wise, no. Moral, definitely not (Gingrich).

  8. Reality Bytes profile image93
    Reality Bytesposted 5 years ago

    There is still Herman Cain.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/46/Colbertreport.jpg/200px-Colbertreport.jpg

    I think Huntsman and Perry dropped out rather than be embarrassed by getting less votes then Stephen Colbert/Herman Cain...

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I have to boycott Colbert and Stewart. They are going to steal votes from Ron Paul with their dumb joke.

      1. Cody Hodge profile image85
        Cody Hodgeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Some people call it democracy....

        1. Cody Hodge profile image85
          Cody Hodgeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Although I do agree if anyone should come from the GOP it should be Paul

  9. Lady In NC profile image61
    Lady In NCposted 5 years ago

    Newt's surge just proves that people don't really pay attention to much of anything but a smooth talker....... Actually Daniella  Obama has already proven that

  10. Lady In NC profile image61
    Lady In NCposted 5 years ago

    Lies are paid for in full by other candidates or other parties ..Before bashing one , learn facts ,, look into voting records ...

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Alright. Here's a voting record for you.

      Brief Overview of Congressman Paul’s Record:

      He has never voted to raise taxes.
      He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
      He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
      He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
      He has never taken a government-paid junket.
      He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

      He voted against the Patriot Act.
      He voted against regulating the Internet.
      He voted against the Iraq war.

      He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
      He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

      Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Also: he predicted the 2008 crash IN THE YEAR 2002.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, and Ron Paul is a mutherf**king Veteran.

          Not a chicken hawk like Newt, Santorum AND Romney.

          Paul isn't a chicken, nor is he a hawk.

          1. Lady In NC profile image61
            Lady In NCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Paul is a whacko .. His foreign policies sucks .

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              "Hey, let's NOT kill people!"

              ... WHACKO!!

  11. Lady In NC profile image61
    Lady In NCposted 5 years ago

    Newt / Santorum 2012 !!!!!!

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I just threw up.

      1. Cody Hodge profile image85
        Cody Hodgeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Makes McCain/Palin seem almost reasonable...

        1. Lady In NC profile image61
          Lady In NCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Would have been a hell of alot better than Obama/ Biden !!! Communist

      2. Lady In NC profile image61
        Lady In NCposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That weak ?!? Wow

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          No, not "that weak". "That smart"... you know, smart enough to "use google".

  12. JeniferD profile image60
    JeniferDposted 5 years ago

    Dumb does not even BEGIN to describe the gaggle of millionaires we have in office that were too dumb to get a real job flipping burgers, but, dogmatic enough to think they can make decisions for the working class voters.

  13. Mark Pitts profile image62
    Mark Pittsposted 5 years ago

    I agree there have been opportunities for embarrassment from the candidates, but that is the norm. I have been watching elections and debates since Nixon. The issue I do have is that there was never any comment or notice of why a candidate, or the candidates wife, would seal their writings (ie: Ms. Obama's papers) or any mention of the associations and friendships (ie: Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, etc.) that are actually anti-American. I think all politicians are suspect by their nature, but the lack of a hard look at the Obama's history and actions while picking at anything/everything no matter how dated or "common knowledge" of any opposition, reflects poorly on the news media. They are the ones who let us down and keep us all from being able to make an informed choice. So I will hold my nose and vote for the conservative that is running against Obama, whoever it is, because they may at least care about the same country I do.

 
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