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Do you think Obama will win?

  1. taylord08 profile image60
    taylord08posted 4 years ago

    I follow the news and they are estimating that President Obama will win the 2012 election. Do you agree? I voted for Obama, but now I don’t know if I would again. I don’t blame him for where our economy is but do you believe he has made changes for the good or bad of this country? I’m interested in finding out on your views when it comes to the presidential elections...

    1. habee profile image92
      habeeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If the economy is improving, I think Obama will win. If Santorum or Gingrich is the GOP nominee, I think Obama will win. If Romney is the nominee, I think it will be a close race.

      1. Ralph Deeds profile image69
        Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        That's about right.

      2. I am DB Cooper profile image66
        I am DB Cooperposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I'll agree with that as well. It's always about the economy. Issues like gay marriage and abortions are a distraction and rarely change voters' minds. It looks like the economy is getting on the right track, which is good news for Obama. The situation with oil and Iran could end up being the major factors in this race.

        Romney has a much better chance than the other GOP candidates because he's more moderate and he doesn't come with the baggage that Gingrich has. The establishment Republican leaders are also behind Romney, even if a lot of the early GOP primary voters are not. That means a lot more than the media wants people to realize. The fact that Santorum, who spent 12 years in the Senate and is getting a lot of press right now, does not have a single endorsement from a current U.S. Senator, should say something about where his campaign is headed.

    2. Rick74103 profile image60
      Rick74103posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I didn't vote for his "Hope and Change" the first time around and he certainly won't get my vote this year either.

      I believe Mr. Obama has actually made things worse and created a lot of bitterness with the American people. He is guilty of sitting on the fence when it comes to several issues because he is the type of politician that promises everything to all sides on an issue. Things that he has accomplished over the past three years have not been that great. The economy is stalled and I don't see how he's going to fix it by continuing to demand higher taxes upon the wealthy when that's probably never going to happen. Why do I say that? Well, when the Democrats controlled both the House and Senate the first two years while he was in the White House, they could have raised taxes on the rich, but did they? No! And why? Because they just talk about it and don't really mean to ever do it. And why would they - most of the people that are heavy duty liberals are those very rich people that enjoy being rich. They tell everyone they would pay more taxes, but in reality if that were true, you'd see many more of them standing in line and begging Obama to raise their taxes. But do you see that? No!

      Obama likes to play to the protesters who hate Wall Street, but yet remember, he's the same guy that bailed out several companies with American taxpayer funds. He just likes to play both sides of an issue.

      As far as the election goes, I'm not very optimistic that the Republicans will win back the presidency. It is hard to unseat an incumbent president, although it is possible. It was done to Jimmy Carter and I suppose it could happen to Obama. However, the Republican field is not that impressive. Romney is arrogant like Obama. Paul is just plain weird. Gingrich is the smartest of them all, but no one in D.C. likes him. And Santorum has a good heart. However, I just don't see any of these candidates being able to defeat Obama. Besides all of that, the average American voter is ill informed and in reality rather stupid. We saw that back in 2008 when many people said they were going to vote for Obama just because he is black and they wanted to see a black president, which is a rather lame reason to vote someone into office. It could be this time around people might study the issues more, but I sincerely doubt it. Personally, I think America could use another change, but I don't see it coming.

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      Sooner28posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yes.  I think he will win due to the insanity in the current GOP, even if it's simply by default.

    4. ib radmasters profile image61
      ib radmastersposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      What has Obama actually accomplished to help the country and make good on his election promises. Nothing.

      An accomplishment is not submitting bills and talking about what he is going to do, an accomplishment is a completed act that actually accomplishes something good.

      For the last three years he failed to do anything that helped the economy. When he won the presidency he became the owner of the economy and all the other problems of the country that he claimed he could solve.

      So yes, I do blame him for the economy.

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        If he became the owner, he would have been able to do what he wanted.

        As it is...he did a lot in spite of the childish blocking of the obstructionist party of big babies, crying because they lost power.

        He has done a LOT of good, and the fact you can't see it is a shame.

        Nothing new....GOP party never sees anything but what is good for the upper 1%. The Heck with the rest of America.

        GOD--it's such a relief to hear him speak and see him! Bush used to make me cringe.

        And---the steel claws of oppression belong to the GOP. Female speaking. And privitizing the prisons speaking. And wanting to breathe clean air and drink clean water speaking.

        I for one, am not going backwards. Take the bus back to the 1950's....we're moving on.

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        Peelander Gallyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Really? The 2% Social Security tax cut, introducing tax cuts for businesses that hire unemployed veterans (among other job-creating legislation Republicans didn't block), passing legislation that allows people to stay on their parents' health insurance plans until they're 26 and free birth control for those who have insurance starting in August (once again, among other healthcare legislation Republicans didn't block) are the first things that come to mind.

  2. taylord08 profile image60
    taylord08posted 4 years ago

    I think it has improved some what, but did it improve enough? And if he is voted back in, will he make more improvements? I guess we will have to see.

  3. hubzer profile image59
    hubzerposted 4 years ago

    Short answer ,yes he will win - the republicans need help big help....

  4. crankalicious profile image87
    crankaliciousposted 4 years ago

    Just a few random facts:

    1. Osama Bin Laden - dead
    2. Mohamar Ghadafi - dead
    3. Dow when Obama became president: 8000 (approximately).
    4. Dow now: 13000 (approximately)

    Now, I'm not saying whether I like the guy or don't like the guy, but these are facts. It's hard to imagine that Obama would not be re-elected just running on these few random facts.

    1. Shanna11 profile image91
      Shanna11posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      As a more Conservative person, I have to say that I didn't really mind Obama all that much. I'm not very educated on the facts of his presidency, but he seemed pretty focused and worked hard. I really liked his wife's drive toward gardening and healthy eating. I think maybe he increased Government power a little more than I'm comfortable with, but you gotta take the good with the bad. Too many people aren't willing to objectively look at things and just go by the label's or their emotions.

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        What a great comment!
        No smear. no hate, just nice!

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        Peelander Gallyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Suddenly, faith in humanity.

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    logic,commonsenseposted 4 years ago

    You forgot to mention that he increased the national debt by over 4 TRILLION dollars in just 3 years.
    Also Iran is closer to a nuke than ever.
    Real unemployment has scarcely moved off the lows.
    Housing starts are some of the worst in history.
    Our civil liberties have been steadily eroded away.
    Yeah, he's a saint.

    1. crankalicious profile image87
      crankaliciousposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You're confusing facts with opinion in some cases. Sure, that 4 Trillion sounds bad, but as a percentage of the national debt, it's considerably less than what George Bush raised it.

      Our civil liberties have been eroded? Hmmm, I see more states approving same sex marriage. I see women having expanded access to health care.

      I don't disagree at all on Iran, unemployment, or housing starts, but where were those when he took office? Momentum is a big deal in economics and if you ruin the foundation, things just don't turn around, but your point is well taken.

      1. crankalicious profile image87
        crankaliciousposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I'll just say too, as evidenced by history, that the national debt has serious momentum too. Almost every president has had an easy time raising it, but few have been able to cut it. That's because Americans don't like having things taken away from them and when you make huge cuts, people don't re-elect you. That goes for Republicans and Democrats.

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      bubs-hubposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      For those of you who are now concerned about the national debt problem, why didn't many of you speak up when:
          1. Ronald Reagan tripled the national debt during his 8  years in office
          2. George W. Bush erased a budget surplus Bill Clinton left him when
                 he came into office, and then proceeded to double the national debt
                 during his 8  years.     
      Personally, I've been worried about the national debt when it first hit one trillion dollars back in the early 80's. Its nice to have you new people on board, I just wish many of you had been here a lot  sooner!

  6. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    I don't know...here's the next smear: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-rep … 329/#nullt 

    always works with some people.

    And it worked in 2010...they had people convinced that they actually cared about jobs and voting for them would solve the jobs problem.....

    Never underestimate subtle negative subconscious seeds.

  7. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    "Obama is not a Christian...he has some sort of strange ideology"

    "Hidden message: free pre-natal testing is pre-cursor to murder"

    Good golly: What's next? He eats babies?

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      logic,commonsenseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Guessing he doesn't eat them, but he doesn't mind killing them.

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Obama is standing for the rights of women. Smear him-- and us all you like.

        It's the way of the Republican party, sadly. A bunch of neo-phyte woman haters.

        Sad what it has become.

      2. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        "Lenore Romney, Mitt's mom, won the Republican primary for U.S. Senator from Michigan in 1970, but lost the gen election. She was pro-choice."

        She liked killing babies too.

  8. innersmiff profile image87
    innersmiffposted 4 years ago

    His record on civil liberties is almost as atrocious as Bush's. NDAA? Expansion of the Patriot Act?

    I agree with everything LogicCommonSense says except Iran. Iran is not even close to a nuke. Why would Iran have any interest in provoking an Empire into decimating them at the drop of a hat? Obama needs to leave Iran alone if we are to avoid World War 3.

  9. taylord08 profile image60
    taylord08posted 4 years ago

    You all have great points. We are a military family and even though he got them out of Iraq which was a good thing. He then decided to cut back on the military, a job that Ewas secure is not secure anymore.

  10. Friendlyword profile image62
    Friendlywordposted 4 years ago

    There is no strong Republican candidate running against Obama right now.  Some people say it would be a close race if Romney gets the nomination.  Why is Romney still struggling to win the nomination when he has no serious contenders running against him?  Romney would will be the weakest Presidential nominee to ever run in a Presidential election.

    The only way this will be a close race is if Obama does something outrageous during the Presidential Campaign.

    1. Jason Marovich profile image87
      Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The Gingrich-Romney-Santorum popularity evolution is proof that there is no Republican candidate able to take on a much criticized, but still hopeful President.

    2. Friendlyword profile image62
      Friendlywordposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I like Romney! As a Democrat trying to be a Republican. Everybody in the Republican Party sees this but him.  Romney you're good guy.  Get yourself out of that snake pit and come home to the people that really appreciate you.  You have to be tired of the slights and attacks and the disrespect of being every Republicans second choice. Come home to the people you actually feel at home with.  I know dirty filthy rich automatically enrolls you into the Republican Party; but, you just don't fit in the Republican Party Brother!  You're a good guy.  Find your place in the New Obama Administration and help him make this County Great again.  Find your way home where you will feel at home and do the most good.

      1. Friendlyword profile image62
        Friendlywordposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I take it all back! Don't come back from the Darkside Mitt!  You got that secreat weapon called Ralph (^%$&$*) Nader!  He should have spent the money the Bush gave him by now!  He should be crawling and sniffing hisself from under his slimy rock by now. Look him up! Or, look down for him.

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    myplanbposted 4 years ago

    taylord08, while I understand your frustration, I think we all thought we were going to get another JFK.  But, you must think about this, the Supreme Court is dominated by extreme right wing judges that side with the corporations who don't give a damn about the average Joe.  In the next four years at least one, most likely two SCJ's will retire and we need a Democratic president to appoint them.  If not I hate to think what this country will be like as we lose more and more jobs to China. 

    Another thing to think about is look what happen in the 2010 elections when the Democrats let their guard down.  We now have the Koch brothers trying to buy Wisconsin.

    1. Jason Marovich profile image87
      Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      It's nearly impossible to compare one President's achievements to another's.  President Obama (with the help of Secretary of State Clinton) has done more for international diplomacy than a lot of presidents.  Let's not diminish that by our domestic problems. 

      The much-admired gunslinger President that preceded him had us on the verge of alienating even our allies.  Facts are facts, regardless of my political beliefs.

  12. Friendlyword profile image62
    Friendlywordposted 4 years ago

    Where's Sara! Where's Jeb! Where's Christy!
    Where's the beef in the Republican Party?

    1. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
      SomewayOuttaHereposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      ...where's the beef?....lol

  13. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 4 years ago

    from the outside looking in...i figure Obama will win...he hasn't cracked...there are a few nuts hanging out and they've cracked wide open...he's kept it together...too bad about his grey hair tho!...sheesh, what a drag bein' prez.......yikes

  14. innersmiff profile image87
    innersmiffposted 4 years ago

    Uhh Ron Paul anyone?

    He is extremely competitive in polls against Obama, and is such an intellectual powerhouse in comparison that Obama will be destroyed in the debates.

  15. b4murray profile image62
    b4murrayposted 4 years ago

    It Think will be a close race between Obama & Romney... I think it will all depend on who actually gets out and votes.

    From what I understand Republicans/Romney voters are more likely voters than undecided or democrats.

    Conservatives will make a bigger effort to show up at the polls.

  16. LoriSoard profile image80
    LoriSoardposted 4 years ago

    I can give you some Republican perspective on this issue. I am not for Romney, because he is a moderate and more liberal on some issues than I'd like. However, if he is the nominee, I will most definitely vote for him over Obama who is more liberal than moderate. I do think that conservatives will get behind whoever the eventual nominee is. It is not yet a given that it will be Romney.

    1. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Here's a Democratic perspective: Obama is more moderate than liberal.

      1. LoriSoard profile image80
        LoriSoardposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I suppose that depends on your definition of moderate. My opinion is that he is not moderate about the issues that I vote conservatively on, so that decides my vote. The issues you vote on may be different than mine.