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Newt is going to give us $2.50/gallon gas!!

  1. habee profile image90
    habeeposted 5 years ago

    Yeah, right. I just got an email asking for a donation to Newt so that we can all have cheap gas if the Newtster is elected.

    1. Paul Wingert profile image80
      Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Any politician who promises cheaper gas is 100% full of crap. The price of oil, a commodity, in the US is determined by a number of factors, the BS in the Miidle East (iran right now) and the stock market to name a few. Politicians has no say in it.

      1. Stacie L profile image88
        Stacie Lposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Didn't Bachman promise $2.00 a gallon if she were elected?
        I guess inflation has to be counted. lol

        1. habee profile image90
          habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          lol

          Ya know, I could see a pol promising to lower or attempting to lower overall gas prices, but to cite a specific dollar amount??

      2. KFlippin profile image60
        KFlippinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Oh, but powerful politicians can certainly influence its rise by their policies and attitude or lack thereof - not to mention the cruci'fiction' of the value of the dollar.

        And now that I think about it, how interesting to view a politician's words regarding cheaper gass as '100% full of crap', that would be applicable across all parties.

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image72
      Ralph Deedsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      And a colony on the moon!

      1. habee profile image90
        habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Hey, maybe the moon has vast stores of oil that we don't know about! Newt must be a genius!

    3. ackman1465 profile image61
      ackman1465posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes.... .and it won't rain in Indianapolis when the Summer comes...

      .... and there's no such thing as Mother Goose, Disneyland and Dr Seuss....

      C'mon people...... wake up!!!!

      1. habee profile image90
        habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        And God didn't make little green apples? lol

    4. profile image0
      Sooner28posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yay.  I am voting for Newt then!

  2. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago

    Is he selling swampland too?

    Who knows, maybe he's made a deal with OPEC smile

    1. habee profile image90
      habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Well, there IS a lot of swampland in GA. lol

  3. Evan G Rogers profile image82
    Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago

    Ron Paul can give you 20 cent per gallon gas.

    A silver dime is worth $2.50.

    BOOM -Gingrichfail.

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this



      And 1.75 per hour wages

      And sweat shops

      And back alley abortions

      And Wal-Mart cops

      and.....

      Yay Ron Paul!!!!

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
        Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You really missed the point.d

        OH well, you do that a lot.

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I guess about 98% of the American people miss it too since they will also not be voting for your Saint Paul.

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
            Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I love how you've given up saying anything constructive on these forums.

            Every time I see your name, I know it's a worthless post.

            1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
              Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              And yet you waste your time anyway; much as a Ron Paul supporter wastes his vote.

            2. Uninvited Writer profile image81
              Uninvited Writerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Um...that is such a case of the kettle calling the pot black...

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                What a negative thing to say wink

                Do pots ever call kettles white?

  4. knolyourself profile image59
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    How exactly is he going to get two-fifty gas by attacking Iran or going to the moon?

    1. Paul Wingert profile image80
      Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Maybe he's thinking we can start drilling on the moon for oil!

  5. rebekahELLE profile image91
    rebekahELLEposted 5 years ago

    How do people honestly believe this kind of stuff?

    chuckles ~ flashback to summer 2008 `

    "no president can lower or raise the price of gas, it is market price"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzEnK'BA … embedded#!
    watch all of it for the 'full effect' of irony

  6. Paul Wingert profile image80
    Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago

    If we start drilling here in the US, what makes people think that the oil companies will sell oil cheaper than the going rate coming from over seas? Companies have one purpose in life and that is to make a profit.

    1. Jeff Berndt profile image91
      Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Heck, we've been exporting oil! Our oil exports jumped way up in 2010.

      http://www.indexmundi.com/united_states … ports.html

      This Reuters article tells us why our gas prices are going up: we're exporting our oil.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/ … Y120120312

      Of course, it also says that if we try to limit oil exports, prices will still go up, so I'm not sure what the writer is thinking, really.

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Thank god they want a profit, otherwise there would be no gas.

      Gas only costs 16 cents if you use silver.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        or .18 beaver pelts...

        1. Jeff Berndt profile image91
          Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          lol

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
            Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            It makes as much sense as using silver as a currency.

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              No, actually it really doesn't. I have an article explaining why

        2. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You fail to understand how money works.

          Please do not insult the study of important things. You sound like a creationist insulting evolution because alligators and crocodiles are different species.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
            Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this



            My money works just fine thank you.  What I have trouble comprehending is anyone over the age of 12 who listens to libertarian drivel and takes it seriously.

            1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
              Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Point #1: You voted for a Libertarian Candidate. You've just nullified all of your arguments. Good job on that.

              Point #2: Money is independent of libertarian belief, so your statement has yet to disprove anything, even if it were true.

              Point #3: Your money has lost about 98% of its value since 1913. Your money does not work fine. About 20% since 2000.

              1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                My money has not lost any value whatsoever.  The money I had in 2000 was sufficient to purchase a certain amount of goods and services.  The money I have in 2012 is sufficient to purchase a greater amount of goods and sevices.  See, I have a job and....

                I'm sorry, I just lost you didn't I?

              2. Jeff Berndt profile image91
                Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Point #4: Evan's $0.16/gallon gas doesn't represent an economic recovery. It just represents the pump-price if we were using silver coinage. Everything else would likewise seem a lot cheaper if you only look at the superficial prices of goods and services.

                But it's important to remember that at the same time, your take-home pay would likewise be reduced (if you make  $50K/year, for example, you'd be getting about $2K/year).

                So things wouldn't really be any different. We'd be paying about the same percentage of our income on gas, on food, on housing, etc. Stuff wouldn't actually be cheaper; the only difference would be that all the numbers (wages as well as prices) would be lower.

                That's how money works.

                1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                  Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  If we use silver as money, we see clearly that the price of things are going down.

                  I said nothing about an economic recovery. This is because we're not experiencing one. I merely commented that Montgomery doesn't understand how money works. I've stopped reading his comments (I got tricked the last few times because he keeps changing his avatar. Apparently he can't pick a team he likes).

                  Indeed, salaries would be lower using silver. But we would no longer have a "I need to be investing in the stock market or I will lose my wealth" mentality. The current system requires people to be speculators JUST to retain their wealth. This is disgusting, and a natural symptom of inflation.

                  Thing WOULD be different: no more speculation mandates; people on fixed incomes would not lose money day in and day out; booms and busts would largely be unheard of; and we wouldn't be in so many wars.

                  Your fourth point is an important one, but you didn't go far enough.

                  As is almost always true, you know more than the average hubber. You simply don't go far enough.

                  1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                    Ron Montgomeryposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    So in other words, when your argument is shown to be total nonsense, you claim you were making a different argument, or go to the "dirty tricks" defense.  How very Rush Limbaugh of you.

                  2. Jeff Berndt profile image91
                    Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I said nothing about an economic recovery.

                    True, but it would be easy for someone who doesn't fully get how money works to jump from "Gas at $0.16/gallon" to "Happy days are here again."

                    booms and busts would largely be unheard of;
                    Because booms and busts were largely unheard of when we were on the gold standard--except they weren't. The gold standard on its own will not prevent boom/bust cycles, and surely won't prevent  economic collapses. That last great big one happened before we dropped the gold standard and before the regulation of the financial markets. Interestingly, it didn't really take long after the regulations were rolled back for another bubble to form and pop....

                    and we wouldn't be in so many wars.
                    Because we never engaged in foreign military intervention when we were on the gold standard--except we did: all over Central America, at the behest of the Dole family among others (which is where the term Banana Republic comes from).

                    Your fourth point is an important one, but you didn't go far enough.
                    I'm intrigued. What's the next logical step after prices and wages all get smaller?

            2. KFlippin profile image60
              KFlippinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Glad to hear your money works fine these days, I'm guessing you didn't lose and never recover from the market collapse, good for you, have a Union pension do you?, and kindly share with us whose drivel you do take seriously these days? 

              Except for some clearly unacceptable (to me) positions of Ron Paul in the war/defense areas, many seem to find him a good candidate, most of whom are youngsters.  That I find interesting, and even though I am not a Paul voter/supporter, I'd never dream of insulting them by calling their support akin to 'drivel'. 

              Ron Paul's unexpected support in the polls should be made note of by any legit candidate of either major Party for the office of the Presidency, as well as everyone else. The Banty Rooster (my own term for him) has hit a home run with lots of young folks....maybe that 'reason' should be explored and somebody somewhere would learn something about modern day America and the more 'thinking and realist' kiddos that will come to a fruition of political power in the generations to come.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
                Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Everyone has lost since the market crash: that's my entire point.

                Our money has lost some 15% of its value since 2006!! Of course I'm losing out. So are you.

                You don't like Ron Paul's foreign policy, eh? Maybe this will change your mind:
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3KDYE5KQE

                It matters not if anyone "investigates" why people love Ron Paul so much, the people of the revolution can sniff out fakes with no problem. The only way another person could earn my vote is if they had a 10+ year history of a free-market voting history.

                There ain't many out there with the credentials.

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    idratherbeposted 5 years ago

    Between Newt promising lower gas prices and Romney promising the world with no plan of action yet, I couldn't imagine anyone voting Republican. And with all the bills attacking (over 1100 this year) women's health care and women's rights in general. I can't imagine anyone voting Republican. Unless of course at the last minute they come up with a Real Candidate!

    1. lovemychris profile image81
      lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Not to mention, a war with Iran.
      They all bow to Bibi.
      Work for him IMO.(except for Paul)

  8. writinginalaska profile image83
    writinginalaskaposted 5 years ago

    Yeah right!  When pigs fly!   But really why stop there??   How about .99 cent per gal gas???   I mean come on!   Does he really think we are so stupid to beleive the president has any control of gas prices??

    1. lovemychris profile image81
      lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Well yes....the Republican candidates are blaming Obama. Even blaming him for stuff Bush did. So yes--they think we are stupid,IMO.(except for Paul)

  9. I am DB Cooper profile image69
    I am DB Cooperposted 5 years ago

    What's really amazing about this claim is that Newt actually showed his work and broke down where the extra oil was going to come from and how much could be produced per day. For example, I think he said Keystone XL would give us an extra 40,000 barrels/day. In total, the Newt-approved drilling and pipeline projects would give us 150,000 - 200,000 extra barrels per day. The United States uses 19 million barrels per day, so Newt's increased supply plan would only help meet 1% of our demand. Somehow this would drop the price of a gallon of gas nearly 40%.

    All of this assumes that approving these drilling projects would instantly produce more oil. They wouldn't. Some would take over a decade to reach full production, years after even a two-term President Gingrich would have moved out of the White House.

    I've heard that Newt is now running TV ads across the South making this $2.50/gallon claim. The South always seems to get the most ridiculous campaign lies, while those above the Mason-Dixon get stuck with the boring health care debate. Back in 2000, I had never heard any of those rumors about John McCain's illegitimate black baby until I visited friends in Florida. Down there it seemed like it was the major campaign issue. Living up north in 2004, I think I saw maybe one or two Swiftboat ads that were actually during a commercial break. The rest I saw in news reports about the Swiftboat ads and whether or not they were fair. Dirty politics is a form of entertainment, and right now I'm bored to death.

    1. habee profile image90
      habeeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The McCain rumor began with the SC primary, thanks to Karl Rove, the evil genius.

  10. peanutroaster profile image77
    peanutroasterposted 5 years ago

    Oil is a finite resource.  As the world economy ramps up, every country is fighting for that finite resource.  It was high gas prices that touched of last recession.  Now that the economy is recovering, gas prices are raising.  This Yo Yo effect is our future until we get off our addition to oil.

    The easy, cheap oil of our parents generation is gone. Now we are looking to burning natural gas to defrost the frozen tundra in Canada to sponge out some of the last remaining deposits. 

    To top it off if the oil continues to burn, gas prices will be mute because the plant will be uninhabitable.

    1. lovemychris profile image81
      lovemychrisposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Which is why we need alternatives! Which...WHO are trying to prevent?

      Mr Koch....10 years fighting a wind-farm in court.....so guess what? It's not going to happen...but who precipitates gas and oil polluting all around the world?

      That's right...Mr Koch.

      Gingrich campaign promises 2 things, IMO: higher cost of living and war with Iran.

  11. ackman1465 profile image61
    ackman1465posted 5 years ago

    The entire fossil-fuel picture is really pretty amusing.... Consider this riddle:

    If you find yourself low of fuel while driving on an expressway.... you might exhaust your supply of gas at any moment ... what is the smartest way to proceed? .... to go FASTER, to get to a gas-station SOONER? ... or, drive still slower, in the belief that your car will burn LESS GAS at that slower pace? ... BUT, you'll have to be patient, as you'll drive slower, longer...

    The answer is the latter, of course... and there's plenty of quantifiable details to explain it....

    BUT, back to amusing.... I see us HUMANS as the one(s) with the low fuel supply (the Earth's supply of fossil fuels is, after all, finite)... and many people are proposing that we race like crazy to find those last supplies - wherever they are - and burn THEM.... overlooking that, ultimately, our "tank" will go empty!!!!

    We will be wise to morph/adjust our means of making electricity (the "real" power, after all) to some other source besides fossil fuels.   We can do so in a measured, deliberate manner, over time.... OR, we can do so in haste, maybe even in chaos, under the impending threat of our running out of fossil fuels altogether....

    Fuel prices (the original subject of this thread) are strictly subject to market considerations.... and "the market" these days, is much more of "the World" competing for the available crude than was the case 20, 50 or 75 years ago.... The price at the pump reflects THAT.... and EVERY PROSPECTIVE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO CLAIMS THAT HE HAS THE "SECRET PLAN" TO REDUCE GASOLINE PRICES AT THE PUMP is deluding himself and hoping, as well, to delude you!!!!!

  12. peanutroaster profile image77
    peanutroasterposted 5 years ago

    The real problem is education.  The GOP courts the dumbest American's to vote against their own interests.  Using social hot button issues the GOP can get poor American's to vote for a party that services the rich and corporations.  In a recent poll - Most GOP voters in Miss. and Alal, believe Obama is a Muslim.  No wonder the GOP likes to gut education.

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
      Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      No, the real problem is inflation.

      Gas only costs 16 cents if you use silver coins.

      1. Jeff Berndt profile image91
        Jeff Berndtposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        And you'd only earn about $3,000/year in silver coins if you make $75,000/year in today's dollars, so there's really no functional difference at all.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image82
          Evan G Rogersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          For anyone else reading Jeff's comments, I addressed them above.

          There is a functional difference, it's just harder to see than raw numbers and aggregates.

    2. ackman1465 profile image61
      ackman1465posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      AND.... our buddy, Santorum, points out that wanting to send more kids to college is "snobbish"...... and is really just a ruse to get more of them (young people) to buy in to the socialist agenda.......

  13. Kadmiels profile image70
    Kadmielsposted 5 years ago

    I truly doubt has the clout or the political power to lower gas prices..

    1. ackman1465 profile image61
      ackman1465posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Please listen to me.... NO PRESIDENT.... NO "energy Czar" ... no NOBODY is going to have substantial impact on the price of gas (EXCEPT and UNLESS it is Jesus Christ.... and He REALLY exists.... and chooses to come BACK TO EARTH......)

      Let's all agree that ANY argument put forth by ANY so-called "Presidential candidate or wannabe" that he (or, she) is "going to lower gas prices")...is simply specious.... and STUPID..... and isn't worth ANY consideration....

      1. ackman1465 profile image61
        ackman1465posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Just a P.S. to clarify:   IF Jesus DOES return to Earth, you just KNOW he will come to the USofA, America and see to it that we have infinite gasoline supplies.... and low/no cost.... since He favors us over all the other people on this Earth....   I know that because all of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robinson, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Father Carey TOLD me so!!!......

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    idratherbeposted 5 years ago

    All the news programs back when Bush had prices over $4.00 a gallon said the President can't control gas prices. Even Fox News made those statements, including Hannity and O'Reilly. So why all the attacks on President Obama saying he should do something when all know he can't? The spin on both sides of the aisle never cease to amaze me! Oil production right now in the US is at decade highs and consumption down, compared to the last decade. But here again, the spin continues.

 
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