"As the shooting death of Trayvon Martin and the failure of authorities to arrest his killer, George Zimmerman, continues to grab headlines, many conservatives and gun rights advocates insist that race has nothing to do with it. Some have also rallied to the defense of Florida’s “stand your ground” law, the self-defense legislation under which Zimmerman was able to avoid arrest. Yet not all stand your ground claims are so successful. Not too far from Sanford, Fla., a black man named John McNeil is serving a life sentence for shooting Brian Epp, a white man who trespassed and attacked him at his home in Georgia, another stand your ground state."
What's that got to do with anything? A black man killed a white man who came into his house with a knife. He was arrested immediately and is doing life behind bars. Zimmerman killed someone and 46 days later is finally arrested on second degree. That's what I'm talking about. The treatment, and presumption of innocence.
And btw--here there was something called the Framingham 8. 8 women who killed their husbands in self-defense. They all were arrested immediately too, and did many years behind bars until they were pardoned. All had suffered years of abuse and threats to their lives.
We have an un-equal system, that's what I want changed. You need to calm down with your accusations.
That's what he's being charged with. Not necessarily what he will be convicted of.
I admit I am not a legal scholar. Therefore, could someone who knows the intricacies and distinctions please explain why shooting someone who is not armed could be considered self-defense? Maybe he thought the kid was going to come suffocate him with his hoodie?
The pertinent part would seem to be that you may use deadly force (gun) if you believe your life is in imminent danger or great bodily harm is imminent. Note that nowhere is whether the other is armed even mentioned; it is not germane to this law.
It seems pretty well accepted that the testimony and injuries are consistent with breaking Zimmerman's nose and bashing his head against concrete while on top of him. That's just a little different than suffocating him with a hoodie and, true or not, is what the investigator must consider.
You need to read a little more carefully - I very carefully indicated that what we know of the testimony from cops and witnesses agree with the alleged injuries. I make no claim as to what those injuries actually are; only to the testimonies.
In addition I have absolutely no idea of what other evidence that prosecutor has found or whom she has spoken to. I don't know if she has pictures or good video to look at. I do know that the media "proved" there were no injuries and then turned around and said there was. I know they proved that Zimmerman spoke in a racist manner and then turned around and said he did not. What we, the public, know is that Trayvon is dead - the trial will tell us what else is known.
Presumably the prosecutor has put it all together and decided that she can't maintain a charge of first degree murder for whatever reason. We might assume it is because of self defense but it very could be something entirely different.
To prove second degree murder, a prosecutor must show that the defendant acted according to a “depraved mind” without regard for human life. Florida state laws permit the prosecution of second degree murder when the killing lacked premeditation or planning, but the defendant acted with enmity toward the victim or the two had an ongoing interaction or relationship. Unlike first degree murder, second degree murder does not necessarily require proof of the defendant’s intent to kill.
Turned himself in? That is not what the article I read stated. It said they went to fetch him before he could turn himself in. BTW, his lawyers have already quit. Presumed innocent. Yeah. Ok. He doesn't by chance drive a white Bronco?
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