From a Democrat Memo:
"A widely read memo from their group Democracy Corps declared "we will face an impossible headwind in November if we do not move to a new narrative" on the economy."
"They know we are in a new normal where life is a struggle -- and convincing them that things are good enough for those who have found jobs is a fool's errand."
Do you accept we are in a new normal where life is a struggle, or should we look for improvements?
We are in a stage were life is a struggle, but it shouldn't be and I won't accept that it HAS to be that way.
A new normal? Nope.
Want improvements, sure. But, don't expect them coming anytime soon.
Greatings, AV. It is not enough to condemn the Democrats, what is Mitt Romney strategy outside of avoiding answering direct questions from any one other than FOX News? Who was the Mad Magazine character who said "Why Me Worry"? I do not think that it is worry time yet...Mitt is going to be asked to provide substance as to his alterantive rather than platitudes and banalities, is he up to it? Let's see how he fares in a debating scenario where real questions will be put to him and he will have to provide real ansers for a critcal audience.
Hey Buddy hope all is well. I agree, Romney is enjoying a good couple of weeks here as Obama is struggling and the people around him are not helping. Romney does need to provide some kind of economic plan for us to look at. Obama is giving his tomorrow, but I am sure it will be the same ole same ole. Honestly, I really would like to hear something different just one
Doing good AV, I am just seeing him as terribly unengaging and he will in the debate season, (he does not really debate well) short circuit. There was an article in the press today indicating that he would desire to stay away from controversial interface with the press
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 … clock?lite
His handlers had better script him carefully before he faces the President
Well, Tearm RM, thanks for the reference, how well will he communicate his ideas under pressure? Thats the test.
Have you checked his website. He lays it all out quite well.
Actually his writers laid it out well. As I am not particularly interested in electing his writers... I'd rather hear it out of his mouth.
There is a comment section in which, (I assume you are a concerned citizen) you can indicate your wishes that you hear it from the horse's mouth. He had to approve everyone of the statements/posts/responses, just like when President Obama's speechwriters lay out what HE wants them to print. I see no difference between a website and a speech except that we've heard Barack Obama's promises in his speeches and we've not heard them delivered.
Oh don't peg me as an Obama supporter... I'm not. As a matter of fact I throw up a little in my mouth each time I think of either of them being elected president.
But... as I am firmly convinced that neither of them can do sod-all about the economy... I am probably going to have to go with the lesser of two evils and err on the side of the one who won't put his nose in either my vagina or uterus. Gay rights and abortion rights are going to win this election one way or another because neither of the idiots up on the ballot can balance a budget.
Gay rights, reproductive rights won't mean jack and won't decide the election. This country is in deep doggy do and there is a time to use a litmus test, such as where does a candidate stand on gay rights-and there is a time where those rights WON'T matter if our economy goes worth because you elected Barack Obama because he chose to support gay marriage and rights-for political gain. Use the head that God gave you. His 'proclamation' was too well-timed.
But Romney WILL choose to do something about gay rights and reproductive rights. Like I said lesser of two evils. Even if Obama doesn't do anything actively for gay rights and abortion rights at least he won't be actively fighting them.
Romney hasn't proven to me that he is qualified to do anything about the economy either. So I'm likely going to end up going for the one who will hurt me personally less.
Please reread what you say, because it sounds so much like the 'what's-in-it for-me' thinking that got this country to the brink/abyss. No, /how can I give to my community, not thinking AT ALL of your country.' I hate to say it, but that reeks of selfishness and that is what gives gays a bad name if they have one; not other peoples' prejudices or biases.
There's a difference between self-interested individual and a greedy person. A greedy person wants things which aren't theirs to begin with. A self-interested individual will want to know how things can benefit them, so they can improve upon the quality of their life.
Really? Are you pulling the "patriotic" card here? Seriously.
And your tone isn't much better. It actually sounds much more judgmental, considering you're fairly new to the forums and don't really know Melissa.
As for getting into your conversation with her, I would like to point out something, if you don't mind. I'm usually level headed about these things and the fact that you played the "patriotic" card shows me that you lack understanding of what exactly has been going on in America.
I mean seriously. Do you trust your government? Do you seriously think they are interested in what is in your best interest? If you said yes to either of these questions, then you live with blinders. And, that makes you part of the problem and not part of the solution. If you answered no to either question, then there's hope for you.
I'm not pulling the 'patriotic' card-whatever that is, but if it means what I think you mean, I guess I am and I don't see what is the matter with that. There's more to life than 'me mostest, bestest' and 'what's in it for me?'. There's more at stake here than my needs and wants, your needs and wants, and Melissa's needs and wants. I'm not so sure what makes you think I'm so new to the forum and no, I don't trust my government. I trust it's structure, our Constitution and I'll do what I need to do to make my government worthy of my trust; I wont sell-out or criticize it.
How did 'greed' enter this conversation? Who died and made you judge of who is or who is not part of the problem or part of the solution? (By the way, I answered 'no' to both questions)
To be patriotic is to openly claim willful ignorance to the actions of government. To be patriotic, you would have to support the government in place and if you do that, then you don't obviously support equality or equal rights, or both. And, that's what is sad.
Yes there is. I am not one you must preach to about it.
Actually, considering all 3 candidates which have the most possibility of winning, NONE of them are for equality or equal rights- so then what? What is the responsibility of the voter?
Here are your choices-
(d) none of the above(don't vote)
So, what's really the responsible thing to do, as a citizen?
You're new to the forums because of your lack of posts to the forums. You're not active often. That's it.
You're the one that brought up the "me, me, me" and that's usually associated with selfishness and greed. Since you did use the "selfishness" word, I associated it so as to give a description. Greed is presently a huge problem in America.
Like I said, there's hope for you. And, no one died to bestow me with what I know. Many people died in my past and I received knowledge from them which has given me a unique insight. I know the insight is accurate because it's a universal truth.
Yes, I said part of the problem and part of the solution. You might be looking to back America and I am fine with that. I am about bringing change to America.
The difference between you and myself is that I am about changing America, so equality and equal rights prosper, which creates growth.
"To be patriotic is to openly claim willful ignorance to the actions of government. " That is not my definition. I define patriotism as living by out Constitution and not trying to change what has worked for well over 200 years. In fact, it is worked so well that it has only been changed some 27 times.
"To be patriotic, you would have to support the government in place and if you do that, then you don't obviously support equality or equal rights, or both. And, that's what is sad." And who's definition of patriotism is that? The progressive Bible, I'm guessing.
I'm not so sure how the issue of voting figures into this, but I'm scratching my head about "What is the responsibility of the voter?
Here are your choices-
(d) none of the above(don't vote)"
The responsibility is NEVER to not vote. What good does that do? REALLY? What good does staying home and not making your voice heard. Sound pretty immature to me, " you guys don't like the way I play? Well, I'll take my sandbox home and play in my own back yard.'
That is a BIG LEAP from saying I support the government in place,so therefore, I am not for equal rights. First of all I AM for equal rights and second, I don't support the government in place.
"You're new to the forums because of your lack of posts to the forums. You're not active often. That's it." What makes you say that I'm new to the forums, which I'm not,, but if I were, what difference would that make?
"Greed is presently a huge problem in America." You won't get ANY argument from me on that one.
"You might be looking to back America and I am fine with that. I am about bringing change to America." Yes, I am about bring America to it's prime again. Inasmuch as that will require change, I'm about that. But, not in the progressive sense.
"The difference between you and myself is that I am about changing America, so equality and equal rights prosper, which creates growth." When you compare 2 differences, it is a bit customary to contrast that with another. You don't indicate what you think I'm about. Returning to the days of Cro-Magnan man?
" Many people died in my past and I received knowledge from them which has given me a unique insight. I know the insight is accurate" We all KNOW our insight is accurate. Is yours more accurate than anyone else's? I'd take a guess that you 'put your pants on one leg at a time!'
Maybe I should have phrased that differently. I am bi-sexual but gay rights actually really don't affect me personally as I am happily married to a man... which is still legal in my state. Reproductive rights only slightly concern me as I am currently pregnant with no plans of abortion. I will be getting my still legal and health-care covered tubal long before the election. My community... which you say that I am not thinking about... is composed of women and gays though. They might like rights at some point even though mine are likely to be secure.
You might want to get to know me a little better before you start throwing the whole not caring about community or country thing around. I likely do more community service in a year than you have done in your life. I am going by national averages here so I might be wrong. Last year I logged over 1000 hours though. Don't get me started on love of country and my background and the background of my family or what they gave for their country.
As I stated before I do not feel confident in any of the candidates to change the economy. As it stands I would rather be poor with rights than poor without them.
You know, Team Rn, I have a problem with your line of reasoning here as well.
You imply that Melissa is selfish for being concerned about impositions on her reproductive and conception rights( the GOP is the culprit) as are many women. If I told the rightwingers that I was going to take their guns away from them, I wonder if they would consider the protection of that right a selfish or petty thing?
The idea of the rightwinger/conservative self rightiously wraping themselves in the flag and the red, white and blue is nauseating to say the least. All the rest of us are socialists and selfcentered crybabies, while you all are just motivated by a higher calling as to what is good for us all? OH PLEASE
The preservation of my civil rights is the BIG PICTURE., While that may not be all it is a very big part of how I decide to vote and whom I will support and to say that the right somehow operates on a higher plane is ridiculous.
Romney, just as the President, will have to present and sell his ideas in the public forum, just pointing people to respective web sites is not good enough. Lets see if YOUR man can face the music in the upcoming debate season.
Conservatives can be so annoying at times.
Yep, I've read most of it. Romney needs to have it all loaded on a teleprompter and share it with everyone. I like most of his ideas, but I think he needs to explain his plans to the American voters. We could have "dueling economic proposals," with "Dueling Banjoes" playing in the background!
I would love Mitt Romney to be more specific, and he is being more direct. Barack Obama was direct, so direct that he made so many promises that he broke in a short amount of time.
I don't see where Mitt Romney relies on a teleprompter. No, we've seen Barack Obama and the teleprompter-or lack thereof. The ;'thing-a-ma-jigs' and' what-cha-ma-call-its'
And to answer your question- are the Democrats worried? Probably not. Do I care? Nope.
Agree Obama needs a new talking point on the economy.
Hopefully, his peeps are working on it.
Good enough for those lucky enough to have kept their jobs or found work is not good enough for the rest of us.
On a similar note, I feel a bit like Dorothy in Oz. I'm visiting Boulder and the economy's booming here. People seem happy and not stressed out. They have disposable income to eat out and shop. Virtually zero shuttered commercial buildings. Quite a contrast to my California hometown.
Show of hands: Anybody else out there NOT worried about the economy???
(Dems, GOPs, Inds, Libertarians, failed to disclose -- it's all good. Love to hear from you all).
I used to live in Arvada CO, 20 miles from Boulder. Some states are having more trouble than others with the economy. California is one of a few states that are having fiscal problems, most do but Colorado's problems pale in comparison with California.
I worry about the economy, certainly, but I certainly do no trust the GOP to remedy the situation.
Arvada has shown up on several searches for housing but seems just a skosh too far out there for a NoBo school destination.
It is honestly refreshing to be in a town that seems "normal" in terms of how people are enjoying life (as life is intended to be enjoyed). i don't want to go home! But I can't afford to stay here, either. Too pricey!
CR2, Arvada and Boulder might be doing OK, but down 25 a bit in The Springs and Pueblo, the unemployment rate is 9.2 an UP.
Economy to me seems to be on the mends. People are out spending money again.
We should be worried, because we are headed for a new McCarthyism . . .
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