If you are against Obama is it Racially motivated

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   ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years ago

   Ever since the President has stepped into office he has been wrong. Its almost as if white people forgot to vote in 2008 and President Obama stole the seat. I would like to take you on a journey over the last four years to put into perspective of how racially divided we have come in the last four years.
   
   What President has ever been critiqued of what he has done in office in the first month?
   
   Honestly what laws can a new President pass that will have an effect in the first month.
   
   What President has ever had to deal with this much disrespect to the highest office in the nation?
   
   He has been called everything but Ni**er and not once has he been called Mr. President but at the State of the Union and by democrats.
   
   The day President Obama walked into office the Dow was at a stagnant 8000 one month before it had reached its lowest point since the great depression and now we are back at 12000, but all I here is how bad the economy is.
   
   He is a socialist who wants to pass his socialist agendas, he passed a healthcare law that allows everyone to have the insurance.
   a. where were you complainers when they forced you to have car insurance or put on a seat belt.
   b. If people have health insurance or not your tax dollars are still going to pay for it, but if they have the insurance your tax load will be lighter.
   
   The President sends out the troops to kill Osama, Hail the troops Obama just pressed the go button.
   
   And now we complain that there are no jobs. But are there really no jobs or has working from home and being an entrepreneur become more appealing than working a nine to five.
   
   There are thousands of jobs in the classified each and every day the work is there but the unemployed have found a new way to get by or a new way to create wealth, yet again its the Presidents fault.
   
   The President wants to move towards green energy and he funded Solyndra, President Bush started the war in Iraq assassinated Saddam Hussein and his family put in a puppet regime and guess who got the big contracts to rebuild Iraq, Halliburton which the vice president happened to be on the board.
   
   President Obama is using executive orders to get his policies through, what else can you do with a congress who has vowed to not pass any bill proposed or vote on anything that may favor the Presidents success.
   
   So lets say what you really want to say we feel like this Ni**er has done enough, and we need the great white hope to come and save us.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 11 years ago

   I believe some is racism, but mostly it's political reasons.

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   Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

   The ridiculous birther claims and the Obama is a Muslim claims are absolutely racially motivated.
   The rest of the vitriolic hatred is probably just politics. Fueled by Koch money and a willfully ignorant populace, of course.

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      

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      Onusonusposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      If being a birther makes a person racist then 9/11 truthers are racist as well.

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   Hugh Williamsonposted 11 years ago

   Is Obama's race an issue? Lets see...
   
   South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson (R), shouted “You lie!” at Obama during his first State of the Union address.
   
   Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) pointing her finger in his face on an airport tarmac.
   
   A staff member from Tucker Carlson’s blog “The Daily Caller” interrupted and heckled the president during a Rose Garden signing ceremony.
   
   You can criticize the pres. without being a racist but the above incidents raise things to a whole new level of blatant disrespect. Yeah, I think his pigmentation is a problem for some.

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      JSChamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Specifically why do those incidents point to racism in your opinion?
      Disagreeing? Strongly?
      Please...........
      If that's the case, then George Bush was confronted with racism every single day.

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Hey JSChams,
         
         Try re-reading the post you responded to.
         
         The person said it was "disrespectful" of the things describe.
         
         Also went on to say that "Yes, some might have a problem with him because of his race", but the examples the poster used were about blatant disrespect.

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   JaxsonRaineposted 11 years ago

   Right... nobody has ever been disrespectful to a president before Obama came along.
   
   I don't like him because he is anti-capitalist and is growing our debt faster than any other president.
   
   I don't like being forced to buy healthcare insurance. It's not the same as having to have car insurance to pay for damage you do to someone else. I'm young and healthy, and I've saved thousands of dollars by not having insurance.

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      ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The stock market doesn't make a resurgence if Obama was anti capitalist.
      The problem is if you dont have health insurance and you hurt yourself you do hurt someone else me and every other middle class person who pays taxes.

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         JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Free markets will automatically recover from a recession. It happens all the time on all time frames.
         
         It doesn't hurt you at all if I pay for myself or someone else pays for me, I don't have to have health insurance because I'm not going to cause anyone else harm. It's not the same thing as car insurance.

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            Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            It doesn't hurt me at all if you have no health insurance?
            Uh, yes, it hurts all of us on multiple levels that start well before you go to the ER and get your charity care.
            You are right that health insurance is not like auto insurance.
            It should not be "insurance" at all.
            Health and wellness care should be covered by a vast payer pool with all citizens getting care without having to worry about going bankrupt if they get cancer.
            Paying for employees' health insurance should not be a financial burden on our employers! I still cannot believe the raging capitalists who defend the current system!
            Access to quality, affordable care should not be an out-of-reach luxury for the middle class or those whose jobs (often multiple PT jobs) don't provide benefits.

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               JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Ok, how does it hurt you?
               
               I pay for all my preventative care out of pocket, and it's cheaper than insurance. How am I hurting you? I've never used the ER either.
               
               Yeah, that would be nice, but that would require that everybody pay for services that not everybody will necessarily use. Worse, it requires our government to manage the fund, which our government is not good at doing.
               
               That still has nothing to do with the legitimacy of fining me if I don't buy insurance.
               
               No, it shouldn't be a burden, but our government is the one of the largest reasons why it already is such a burden! Add onto that the lifestyle of Americans, and cost of lawsuits, and you are accounting for most of what makes healthcare expensive.

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                  ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  You are blessed but the millions of Americans who don't have it are eating away at the fabric of the middle class. Which is just one more reason for the increasing wealth gap between the upper and middle class.

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                     JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Availability of credit is the largest factor in decreasing wealth of the lower/middle class.
                     
                     In the past people didn't graduate with 100k in student loans and go right out and buy a 250k house. We have less wealth because people drown themselves in debt.

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                        ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        We are a reflection of our government. And the constant lack of financial education in public school has a great deal to do with it.

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         ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         By the way when has a President of the United States ever been constantly referred to as Bush the way this President has been referred to more by his name than by Mr. President or President Obama. I am sorry in President Bush's worst moment he had a shoe thrown at him by an Iraqi not an American.

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      Ralph Deedsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      He doesn't appear to me to be anti-capitalist.

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   JaxsonRaineposted 11 years ago

   Question for you, Chenard. If an African American doesn't like Obama, does that make him a racist too? Or is it just white people?

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      ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Of course African Americans can be the worst racist on this planet against one another. They are not void because they are the same race.

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         JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Ok, so any opposition to anything Obama does is just from racism?
         
         What if Obama killed an innocent US citizen for no reason? Would we be allowed to disapprove?

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            ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Of course any man who kills another should be disapproved of. But a quicj question for you? Did you have a problem with President Bush killing an innocent man in Saddam Hussein or his sons and family. Or the millions of innocent Iraqis who lost there lives.

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               JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               So you agree it's possible to disagree with Obama and not be a racist?

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                  ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Of course this was a topic to stir the pot not call out racists. I feel that the biggest problem with this country is the fact that we have not confronted the history between blacks and whites. If the two were to come to grips with the past it would make it easier to move into a smoother and more manageable future. But to act like the blacks don't exist in the history of this country especially in education is an injustice greater than slavery.

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                  ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  But you neglected to answer my question pertaining to the former President. did that not turn your stomach. Or have you not given it any thought because they weren't born within our borders?

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                     JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     I didn't respond because it has nothing to do with the topic. I'm not sure what racial history problems you are talking about exactly.

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                        ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        How much did you ever learn about slavery in school or the Africans that were here before slavery was instituted. What about the scientific inventions and innovations brought about by African Americans. The problem with being black is not that we struggle with the future it is because they are forced to look at a past that glorifies people who have they considered enemies.

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                           ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           To explain a little further think about your family tree. You can probably trace roots and your history. Now think of being an African in America you may be able to go back five generations before slavery stops you in your tracks. Now think of the African American student who sits in class and spends one month out of the year and by the way the shortest month learning about 500 years of their history. The rest of the year they get to glorify every race on the planet especially Europeans from Greece to present.

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                              JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Yeah, I can go back a few generations and I have ancestors who were killed for their religious beliefs. It doesn't have any impact on my success in life.
                              
                              And what you described doesn't represent my education. There was no single month where we learned about African Americans and every other month we learned only about whites...

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                           JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           Ok... I'm not sure exactly what you mean all the time, but I did learn a fair amount about slavery in the US when I took US history. I learned about notable scientists and inventors when we studied their time periods. Not sure what you're getting at...

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                              ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Older generations got an amount I wouldn't call it fair but the younger generations get absolutely nothing. I went to high school in the 90's and slavery encompassed two pages of the history book. And the civil rights movement consisted of Martin Luther King Jr. Unlike most I was smart enough to read and venture upon self education but this younger generation gets no education at all.

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         Dr Billy Kiddposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         This post got silly. One racist trying to prove others are not racists.

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   innersmiffposted 11 years ago

   I don't like him because his policies are bringing about a kind of fascism in America that negatively affects the rest of the world in turn. At break-neck speed he is destroying individual and economic freedom in America. Drones, NDAA, executive power abuse, Libya . . . what is there to like exactly? Obama has basically done the opposite of the qualities he espoused.
   
   On another level, he does not know a thing about economics, is the biggest spender of any other President, and will bring about an economic collapse so catastrophic that it will take years to recover. He is trying to bring about European socialism in a capitalist country - frankly, good luck mate.

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      JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well, you're not from here so your opinion doesn't count...
      
      and you're a racist...
      
      
      
      You know I'm kidding   I'm just waiting for someone to repeat the claim that spending has increased at record low rates under Obama, so I can show them exactly why that doesn't mean what they think it means.

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         innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         No, I can't have an opinion because my country has a Queen . . .
         
         I'm used to it. Obama supporters are irrational anyway, so I expect irrational dismissals of my opinion. No biggie!

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      ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry but President Obama is no different in regards to past Presidents the New world order has been in motion since the first elder Bush Presidency but one man can' t be put at fault for pushing an agenda that is already in motion. It is our responsibility as citizens to fight what is coming not politicians who work for the corporatocracy.

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         innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I agree that Obama is no different to that extent, but it is important to point out that the emperor has no clothes. People still believe that the actor is the one pulling the strings so there is a place for pointing out the obvious. Once that is done we can begin to examine exactly why all administrations have been moving in one particular direction for a hundred years.

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            ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            People who still believe that a President is anything more than the commander in chief of the military should read a little more and wake up a bit.

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   Wayne Brownposted 11 years ago

   Absolutely not...it is totally about policy and direction. Unfortunately there are those who see that the policy and direction is wrong for America yet they are hesitant to speak out for free that they might be labeled a "racist" for their non-agreement.  Opposition does not imply racism as some would like to suggest.  If that is the case, then surely racism has been waged heavily against just about every white president who has served in the office...that is if you believe racism can go either way as it truly should when properly identified.  I am relatively blind to Obama's race because I am so aware of his socialist and liberal leanings and his desire to dismantle a country that he believes needs to be transformed into something he cannot define to the people of America, or maybe, he is afraid to define it.  No, if Obama leaves office, it will be because America finally woke up and realized that our nation is in jeopardy.  This is a story of  failed leadership from day one in the highest office in the land. WB

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      ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Honestly I would rather face another four years of Obama who at least stands on some principles of right and wrong than Mitt Romney who plays the puppet just to win the presidential nomination. Honestly neither one of them have a record to stand on. But the Presidents record is not because of his will to want to do right for the American people it is plagued with a do nothing congress who has sat on their hands when it comes to helping the American people.

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         Wayne Brownposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry CR but the man had two full years of executive and legislative control in his hands and what did he do with it....ObamaCare, Stimulus.....that's about it  Neither have shown any value to most of the folks in America.  ObamaCare is promoted on the basis of "fixing Medicare" and being more affordable and supposedly debt-free.  That is not happening but we will be way to far into it before that reality comes to th surface.  What is really happening here is that Obama is more than willing to hand out free government cheese to all that want it paid for on the backs of a shrinking taxpayer base who have no real choice in the matter.  You can call that doing the right thing all day but it does not fit my definition.  There is no intellectual leadership in finding ways to spend money that we do not have especially when we totally ignore the growing deficit gap and the out of control growth of the national debt in the process.  Life does not get better for those who pay the bills because we find more people to stand in line and take the free handouts.  A President who continues on that path can lead us to only one place...failure.  WB

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   MelissaBarrettposted 11 years ago

   I don't like him and I'm pretty damn sure I'm not a racist.  I don't like Romney either and it's not because he is white.

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      ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I can agree on some accord to not liking either but this nomination will come down to choosing the worst of two evils.

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         JaxsonRaineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         You call Obama one of two evils, but anyone opposing him is racist?

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            ChenardRobinsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            President Obama is not an evil man but with a congress like the one we have it makes him more of a detriment to the country than a help.

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    Hugh Williamsonposted 11 years ago

    We will get better presidential candidates when we get control of campaign financing.
    
    The proposed "Disclosure Act" is a small step in that direction as it would make public who large donors are and how much they contribute. It would also prohibit foreign interests from contributing to campaigns.
    
    On Fri Jun 15 Mitch McConnell called the act an attack on free speech and vowed to maintain the right of unknown donors to bankroll pols. in secret.
    
    And this system is going to produce some wonder-boy president who will be brilliant, honest and unbiased.
    
    Good luck with that.

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    Xenonlitposted 11 years ago

    While the racists have come out from under their rocks, a lot of anger at President Obama is from his own mistakes. He has insulted and neglected his base.
    
    Is it racist that the extreme left is as unfair as the extreme right in their attacks on the President? I think that the extreme left has some answering to do, because I have never known them to be all that racially sensitive.
    
    The liberals are mad because President Obama has taken a middle of the road approach. But liberals have been known to start telling black people what to do when they shut up when a white person is in charge. Yes, that is racial.
    
    The Democrats are not all good. Too many of them are old dog racists and they let us all know that when they failed to present a unified party.
    
    Overall, I say that it is racism fully 60 percent of the time. The remaining 40% is actual anger at some of the president's attitudes and behavior.
    
    That being said, NO president is going to get away without someone being expressive and angry with his or her decisions and conduct of office. The Koch Brothers did too good of a job and THEY run this country.

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    Longhunterposted 11 years ago

    I have a nephew who's half black. He's asked me if I thought he could be president. I told him, "Yes, of course." Nothing about race was discussed.
    
    The fact he's half-black is not and should not be a factor just as it is not and should not be with Obama.
    
    The problem I have with this issue is it seems liberals use the race card when they have nothing to contribute. They can't rebut what I said so they call me a racist simply because I disagree with Obama and his policies. To me, it's childish and stupid.
    
    I sincerely hope that, if my nephew ever gets the opportunity to run for any office, he's judged for who he is as well as his character, beliefs, and ideology, not by the fact he just happens to be half-black.

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