why is socialized healthcare so bad?

I live in Canada, grew up in the UK, and spent three years in Germany.

Last month I went to a clinic (here in Quebec) to see a GP. I had to wait a couple of hours it's true (though in Newfoundland, another Canadian province I have also lived in, it's more like 45 minutes...), but was then given an appointment to see a specialist, who I can see a couple of weeks from now: and this is for a decidedly minor ailment...

Not bad, all in all...

As for education, in Germany it costs about 200 dollars a year or so to go to university (or did when I lived there); in Quebec, which has the lowest tuition fees in North America (if you are yourself from Quebec, that is), parents and students were recently out on the streets protesting, what? The government's proposal to remove the means-tested LIVING GRANTS poorer Quebec students are eligible for...

See my hub for more on this: http://hubpages.com/hub/Is-America-the-Greatest-Co

"Those who aren't paying for their own way?" Are you kidding me? This is health. Not free money. If health programs were free or "socialized" we'd be better off. Do you know how this is already affecting us? I haven't taken a single pill since I got into college and researched the Pharmaceutical Industry and found some horrible things they do to INCREASE SALES.

If the government actually had a say in it... they would stop investing in medicine that had hundreds of side affects they they themselves invested in. Did you know a female politician from California made 11 million dollars on stock for a medicine she had to vote on?

Of course she's going to fucking pass it so she can sell her soul for the quick buck (please excuse me for my language I just feel so passionate about this).

If healthcare was free, you'd be right.

However, healthcare is very expensive. The problem you run into is that in America, we like to have rights. One of those rights is the right to keep the money we have earned, or to do with it what we please. Can you really say that it is fair to take a hard-working person's money and use it to create a wasteful government program for those who aren't paying for their own way?

I said wasteful for a reason. This is the second argument against national healthcare: the government has a way of ruining almost any program it gets into. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security. They just don't work. There is no incentive on the part of government workers to do anything the right way, because nobody will fire them. The government is not a profit driven company, and therefore it is not worried about slack employees or loss of money. That translates into huge excesses and power grabs by politicians.

"Giving everyone a chance" is a very nice way to term this argument, but it is misleading. It comes down to giving a man a fish or teaching him how to fish. (And not stealing from the man who already knows how to fish)

U.S. patients have better access to advanced medical technology than Candians, neat ?

here in the U.K. we have NHS which is pretty good.

I am not bigoted, but why not give it to Americans. I am on disability and go without meds I need because they cost too much. When we went to the Medicaid office it was packed and only a hand full were white and spoke english.

I worked as a nurse and now that I am disabled collect too much to get help. I know many, many people who never worked and are riding high on the hog.

Like I'd rather collect, then make $20.00 or more and hour. How about install a merit system, where you get back what you put in.