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Are you in favor of Government run health care?

Considering how well they have done with SS, Medi care and Aide, Fanny May and Freddie Mac?

asked by The Shark 5 months ago

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nicomp says

The same people who vilified FEMA for its' inability to deliver food and water to NOLA flood victims favor handing over 17% of the economy to the federal government.

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donotfear says

NO, I'm not in favor of government-run health care. I don't want the "government" making decisions about my health care, nor do I want them to dictate what treatment I can or can't have. That's what it will come to. I want to pick the doctor I wanna use. I WANT A CHOICE.

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Kebennett1 says

No way. Not after what I read about their stand on critical illness and the care of the aged and disable!

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration ur Healthcare! Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician svcs 4 Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected. Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs ppl! PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides apprvd list of end of life resources, guiding u in death. PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may incl an ORDER 4 end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV. Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order. PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment u will have at end of life. Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access 2 ur banks accts 4 elect. funds transfer. These are just a few samples of what the 1,018 pages of the proposed Health Care Reform Bill hold!

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pwily says

I don't know *that* much about it, but in general our government seems like their not too good at managing complicated processes and I can't imagine anything more complicated than healthcare.

I would guess that it would be a disaster.

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dabeaner says

The disaster in medical care started with medical insurance going beyond the bounds of what insurance is for. "Third partying" of medical and dental care has led to inflated costs, bureaucratization, unnecessary procedures, "heroic" procedures beyond any semblance of reasonableness, etc. "What the hey, insurance is paying for it." WRONG! YOU are paying for it in insurance premiums and taxes.

All that, in turn, has led to more and more government intervention (call it "involvement" if you are a liberal). That has, naturally made the situation even worse. Remember, EGTTTS (everything government touches turns to shinola).

Look at the REALITY of British and Canadian government medical programs if you dare.

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The Shark says

Well Tornado, my response is that same as on the other blog page:

Yes, my response is to keep the gov't out of it. Mortality rates have continued to climb in this country since WWII because we have a superior health providing system. Any time the gov't runs something you get two things, service declines and costs go up. Take any gov't run plan you choose as an ex. I'll use social security. System is in negative spending and they haven't even felt the full impact of the boomer generation retiring yet. We already pay 15% flat tax to ss. How much will it be after all boomers retire? add 15% ss tax and your income tax 30% and your medicare HI tax of about 1%, now how much do you think the health tax will be? All this before you pay your state, local and property taxes, and all the hidden taxes: Gas tax on every gallon you pump, communication tax on your land and celll phone, as well as on your cable bill. Insurance tax,( yes if you have life or car ins you pay a premium tax, just not disclosed). How about if you buy alcohol, you pay tax, Does your state have a sales tax? Do you drive, your state probably has an excise tax. Do you have an investment? mutual funds etc, correct, sec tax.

So, yes the gov't running health care does scare me, not only for declining service, but the tax that no one is talking about.

PS: To say one has nothing to do with the other is absurd. If they have mismanaged every major social program they handle now, what makes you think this one will be different?

That' like you hiring a contractor to put siding on your house, and he screws up the job, costing you over runs to fix his mistakes. Then your wife hires the same contractor to put a new roof on your house. You question heer pointing out how he messed up the siding job. Your wife replies, what does one have to do with the other?

The Shark

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smilefreely says

Absoulutely not. It is taking away our rights as people to chose who we want to take care of us. Let's face it there are a bunch of quacks out there and I certainly don't want to be seen just by anybody. I want my choice.

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Carol Donnelly says

NO! I am an unemployed cancer survivor with no healthcare currently, and I DO NOT want socialized medicine.

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jpurves says

No. I'm with you! What they're looking to do will stifle innovation. What's the last Canadian or British medical breakthrough that has been brought to the marketplace. Oh yeah, that's right, Dolly the sheep! let's be real folks. When they say "You can keep your own health plan" That means "We're not going to make you give it up" and we're not going to help you keep it." In fact it probably means "We're going make sure we charge so low of a price that insurance companies throw their hands over their head and walk away from you. We will also continue to print whatever money we need to make up any deficiencies -this will be your children's and their children's bill..

As a person who almost did not survive British health care as a child I am not interested or impressed. In fact, I almost died from receiving the wrong injection from a socialized doctor. My body swelled to twice its size from receiving the wrong tetanus injection and an adult dose at that. Forget about innovation. More than 60% of folks are happy with their health care. Mr. Obama the free market says our current system is sustainable. The rest of the world envies our health care.

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Ralph Deeds says

We already have a universal single-payer government health care plan. It's called Medicare, and it works quite well although it's not perfect because some doctors and hospitals bill for unnecessary tests and procedures and overcharge Medicare. Medicare could easily be extended gradually in increments over 5 or 10 years to the entire population, starting with prenatal care, children, the unemployed and so forth. The for health care insurance companies add little or no value to our health care system. They try to avoid insuring people who need insurance and do everything they can to avoid paying legitimate claims. And the proliferation of claims and policies cause a lot of administrative cost to medical care providers. Every other advanced industrialized country has universal, single-payer health care which is provided at a fraction of the cost of health care in the United States with better results in terms of life expectancy and infant mortality. The U.S. mortality rate is the lowest of any industrialized country.

Social Security is one of the most effective government programs. It provides a minimum of income to retirees, the disabled and children. Its financing needs a bit of tweaking to put it on solid ground for the forseeable future. It has had overwhelming support from both political parties until George Bush came up with the idea of privatizing it and turning participants over to the Wall Street banksters. Fortunately, this idea never got off the ground.

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ABM Consultants says

Absolutely Not .... Specially Not under obama administration.

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