Advice to Emperors

It is the preference of people of constrained abilities who are incapable of comprehending the true meaning of what is being said, even if it is in black and white - be that the letter or the spirit of the written word - to resort to their own interpretation based on their own level of intelligence and experience.

In this they are assisted by an offensive native vulgarity and crudeness (using words like “scum”, “ass”, “fool”, etc.) which simply cannot be emulated by any person with any measure of self respect and in consequence they end up speaking unopposed, which in turn encourages them to believe that they are right.

The unhappy result is that such people NOT ONLY become a magnet for like-minded sad individuals who hasten to get on board the leaky boat of iniquitous blindness, fanaticism, hate, unfairness and injustice, but also mislead through emotional manipulation otherwise intelligent and decent human beings into accepting a point of view which they would normally not adopt.

If one responds to these people with ironic or sarcastic humour at their crude rudeness and aggressiveness, not only do they fail to grasp the meaning of the humour, but also one falls into the trap of acknowledging their existence and lowering oneself to the level at which they feel most comfortable, which is that of mud wrestling.

On the other hand, the temptation to show them that if one wishes to confront them one can do so with the greatest of ease, is sometimes overwhelming. It is really tempting to demonstrate to them how truly limited they actually are and how easy it is to put them in their proper place. In particular when one sees them doing exactly what they have previously supposedly condemned; meaning attacking someone else’s hub in a public, vicious and unprovoked manner in their usual illiterate style.

So if you and someone else ever agree to have an academic discussion in public, a mutual agreement between two interlocutors (not an underhanded, unexpected dastardly attack as is the custom of the people I refer to, in other words), make sure that the discussion is carried out in words of one syllable in order that the words can be understood by the people I am referring to here, and they will not take offense at imaginary accusations. Otherwise you risk being viciously accused yourself of all sorts of non existent crimes fabricated in what they are pleased to call their mind. If you suggest for example that hanging is wrong, you are likely to be called a murderer.

And remember:

An Emperor - even when he is naked - is still an Emperor. By the same token, a monkey however well dressed, is always… just a monkey.



Dimitris Mita

De Greek

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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

I wrote most of the above on the day I was attacked. However, what I like to think of as a gentle tolerance of our species guided me towards ORIGINALLY ignoring the spurious attack against me by a person who was obviously incapable of comprehending the meaning of what I had written. She accused me of unjustifiably and publicly attacking a fellow Hubber’s work, when in fact that particular Hubber had challenged me openly to a public debate on her own chosen subject and what I wrote was with her own agreement.

Instead of responding in kind to the attacker, I chose to accept responsibility for my lack of knowledge of psychology, in order to put an end to the whole thing, especially since two persons whom I liked and respected made the same error of comprehension as the attacker.

The two persons I refer to justified my high opinion of them by subsequently making amends privately and I thank them for their good words.

BUT:

I now find by accident that the very same person who accused me of “unjustifiably and PUBLICLY attacking” another Hubber has herself attacked someone else here and those of a similar mentality as she have hastened to offer her their support, completely forgetting that in my case they had offered support supposedly AGAINST such behaviour.

The above Hub is not aimed against my attacker, as she is obviously of limited education and intelligence. Nor is it aimed against those whose emotional scars prevented them from comprehending what was written in black and while. It is aimed at those who have rushed to encourage the poor ignorant fish, for their own miscellaneous reasons. In their case, my tolerance has now expired.


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tonymac04 5 years ago from South Africa

Not wanting to rake over old coals I just accept your words here at face value and say I totally agree with you. There is too much misunderstanding and lack of tolerance around. We as writers on this hallowed site should be responsible and careful - we know the pwer of words because we are writers. If we don't know the power of words we should get the hell off this site because we are by that token not writers and don't belong here.

And writers, almost by definition, are open-minded, accepting and willing to learn from others, no matter the politics or religion or any other factor.

Young Dimitris (I think I'm entitled to call you that after my latest Hub, aren't I?) keep writing and entertaining us in your wonderfully stylish and often impish way. I love it!

Here's to more marrow in your bones, my friend!

Love and peace

Tony


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Tony,

Your words, coming from someone such as you, mean a lot to me and I thank you :-)

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sunflowerbucky 5 years ago from Small Town, USA

While I have little knowledge of the event that spurred this debate, I did read the attack on you. I also read the attack by that person on another well respected hubber and was disheartened to see this kind of sentiment on HubPages. One of the things I love most about HubPages is the environment, typically not one of hostility. Yet, as in any arena, there will always be those who want to try and spoil it for everyone else by spreading the kool aid. One of the hardest things for us writers to accept is that not everyone will agree with us. I for one, think you are a fantastic writer. Herein lies the part where I would offer you the same advice that I offered your attacker: we must be very careful to be able to separate the writer from the human. We do not always know the people with whom we associate on HubPages. We may think we do, but we don't. That's not to say we can't immensely enjoy their writing, their voice, their technique, etc. We can enjoy a writer yet not much care for their topic. Personal attacks, in my opinion, have no place on HP. As I also told your attacker, I know people on HP who are wicked. Let's not forget why we're here. For the writing. This isn't match.com. If people are hoping to find a soulmate, this probably isn't the place. If you are hoping to discover some amazing talent and share kinship with likeminded writers, it absolutely is the right place. The point of my little rant is, (yes there is a point), that I think you are a fantastic writer De Greek. I cannot speak directly about the catalyst of this argument, as I have not read the hub. I would just like to let you know that I still value your writing and that has not changed.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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sunflowerbucky, I have visited hundreds of hubs during my time here, because I do like to read. If I do not like a hub, or I do not agree with the author, I move on without leaving a comment. When I come across a brilliant child like you it makes me happy and I say so, because I mean it. I do not have anything against the woman who wrote that piece, but I have noted the people who have hastened to encourage her in both instances, and I thought it proper to let them know that I did notice.

Thank you for passing by :-)


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sunflowerbucky 5 years ago from Small Town, USA

You're welcome! I agree with simply choosing not to comment if I don't like a hub. Vote it down and then move on.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

I don't even vote it down - I just move on :-)


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VioletSun 5 years ago from Oregon/ Name: Marie

DG, I enjoy Hubpages as a place to write at our leisure; in the three years I have been here, I am glad to say that the majority of the writers in the Hubpages community are talented, decent, and often awesome human beings from all walks of life. It is because of this respect and often bond we have with one another, that the writer's social network has done so well. Hubpages is not thrashy, so if any individual uses energy to write a hub about another hubber attacking him/her, is not in the right environment. I cringe, when I see cruelty even when the intentions are to right a percieved "wrong."

I think you are a very good writer and a decent human being; so keep on hubbing and being yourself! :)


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Christopher Price 5 years ago from Vermont, USA

Dimitris;

Bravo! I would have enjoyed this essay simply for your erudite command of language and logic, but your honest and honorable method of self defense commands even more respect.

I am unfamiliar with the hubs and hubbers referred to here, but every thing I have read that you have written reveals you to be a Gentleman through and through. I admire your tongue-in-cheek attitude and wink-and-a-nudge sense of humor. The less perceptive "may not get it", but you are rightfully well regarded and admired by those of us who do.

Be well and Write On!

CP


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msorensson 5 years ago

Oh, beloved friend. I am sorry am not aware of it at all. Now..I just posted this on twitter,

:To expect others to see things the way you do is to expect them to wear your prescription glasses.

If communication were to be perfected, we will not use words, only telepathic communication. Of course both will have to be trained to receive and give telepathic communication.

We use the words to approximate what we are trying to communicate. By themselves, words are neutral.

I hope you have moved past this...

Much love always,

Melinda


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Marie,

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Christopher,

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Melinda,

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Your presence here, under these circumstances, takes some courage and I appreciate it even more than usual....:-)))

You are obviously not just fair weather friends and I thank you all for your kind words. :-)


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christopheranton 5 years ago from Gillingham Kent. United Kingdom

You have heard the phrase "Lions led by donkeys".

What you have just written about is a classic case of "A Lion being Attacked by a donkey".

Keep writing your witty and perceptive hubs.

The intelligent people will appreciate them.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Christopher, many thanks for your comment :-)


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Hmrjmr1 5 years ago from Georgia, USA

DG - I echo the sentiments so well expressed above, in the interest of brevity I add "Noli Illigitimi Corbundum". (Latin for "Don't Let the Bastards Get You Down") Looking forward to more hubs from you.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Hmrjmr1

The De Greeks might not be perfect and we often keep silent when we are attacked even by vicious creatures, but there comes a time when we must show to those encouraging our attackers that we know what they are doing.

Thank you for your support :-)


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago

I am not familiar with what happened to you, though I have an inkling it may have been the same girl who wrote a Hub attacking me personally. As you say, it is hard not to respond.

I am all up for debating issues. There is no need to denigrate a debater unless one cannot formulate a good argument for what you believe in. Ad Hominem is the last refuge of scoundrels.

I think you are a fine man and a fabulous writer. God speed! Damn the torpedoes! :D


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Hello, hello, 5 years ago from London, UK

Here, Here, Here, I agree with you. I only can join the chorus. I think you got a lovely, natural and comical style of writing. We will keep you and won't sent you out into the wilderness hahahaha. All the very best wishes for the New Year. Long shall De Greek live. hurray, hurray, hurray. I also had to attacks about my grammar and was absolutely amazed the numbers of my friends fired whoever it was. I know I got problems with grammar. One who critized made mistake himself/herself and got shot down. The other was a bit annoyed because he/she called a grammatically mess which was a bit too far. On a whole I don't mind being critisized I can take it and learn from it.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

James,

Damn the torpedoes, indeed! :-)))


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

HH,

YOU are an Angel, thank you :-)))


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Lee B 5 years ago from New Mexico

I'm obviously out of the loop here, but everything sunflowerbucky said sounds very wise to me. Anyone who writes in a public forum like hub pages takes a risk, puts himself or herself "out there," and becomes somewhat vulnerable. For the most part, this is a supportive environment while also fostering the expression of diverse opinions and experiences. I'm sad to find that not everyone's interactions have not been as positive as mine.

So blah, blah, blah...De Greek, forget divisive, negative, combative comments and concentrate on your many devoted fans, like me!


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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

I must confess, dimi, I do not know the identity of the players involved in the contretemps you describe, but I will defend your noble, witty self against any and all slings and arrows of opprobrium that are slung against you. After all, what are friends for? And I do have an orange belt in Kung Fu.


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neeleshkulkarni 5 years ago from new delhi

when you are attacked it meaNS YOU HAVE ARRIVED AND ARE VERY MUCH THERE AT THE TOP!!!!take it as a compliment and move on Dimitri. poor me have never been attacked here.please reccomend me to the lady- it has been a while since a woman actually attacked me.

a lesson learnt over the years is that the vicious are highly motivated Dimitri because unlike us there existences are staked on what they say and their self image is built on it.So we CANNOT match them word for word without diverting such a huge amount of positive energy to a negative act that we get drained- and they win.so ingnore and walk onnnnnnnnnnnnnn


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BJBenson 5 years ago from USA

I have not had a visit in awhile, so I thought I would drop by.I hate to hear that some writing has gotten out of control. Just remember who you are! De Greek! I do like your quote at the end.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

So, Lee, you have come out of the monastery at last and for the purpose of defending our friend, no less! :-)))

Thank you and my regards to the Captain :-)


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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An orange belt in Kung Fu no less, DRBJ! Relative to a black belt, I imagine that it is the equivalent of a Professor at Fokk U and a janitor, so that is really impressive :-)))

I write this for myself and for the few people who have disappointed me by their behavior. I do not expect my friends to make themselves targets of those people and, indeed, I expect that many of my friends will take the wise course and keep themselves safe from potential future attack by the same people. That is why the presence of those friends here who offer their support is so much more precious to me.

Thank you for yours :-)


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

Brother Neeleshkulkarni, you are simply asking for trouble, but thank you for your friendship :-)


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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BJ, you are a gem and I thank you :-)


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Lee B, I meant of 'YOUR' friend, not 'our' friend :-)

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Feline Prophet 5 years ago from India

What...back here again, DG? When will you ever get that book written? :D


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Hi FP - I said I would resign from the Elites, not disappear into the back of beyond :-)))

Besides, the De Greeks, though generally faultless, if we did have a fault it would be our willingness to sacrifice ourselves in fighting injustice for the good of humanity!!! :-))))

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Green Lotus 5 years ago from Atlanta, GA

DG I too am unaware of the unfortunate attacks. You have responded eloquently but not without a measure of indignation. You're on to something by honing your "psychological" rebuttal skills. One can enjoy a distinct level of sophisticated satisfaction in wielding defensive remarks that are succinct, biting, psychologically potent and filled with dry wit. Never lose your cool. You're a class act DG and you can play the part.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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How can you read me so, GL? And thank you for the compliment :-))

I am astonished to see that people are actually voting this thing up, something I did not expect :-))


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Shadesbreath 5 years ago from California

I couldn't decide if you had a troll on your hands or just a dumbass, but I do like what mudwrestling does to the nubile, so, with the right opponent I wouldn't be too quick to disparage it wholesale. Other than that, I would say I feel your pain, but that I do like to resort to crude and base language with some regularity, I like to think of it as all part of the spectrum, but then, I imagine Bach could have written beautiful music for the ukulele and harmonica as easily as anything else and therefore nod to your point and just point out that, to quote a cliche, you, YOU, should not let the turkeys get you down. Like Bach would care what Lil Wayne had to say about his music.


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Denise Handlon 5 years ago from North Carolina

DeGreek-I'm not aware of who, where or when, although I have an inkling of what, but that doesn't matter. Your writing is superb and your defense well said: Whip them with words! Your command of the language and writing style is so sophisticated it is leaps and bounds above so many others. As for the woman involved-I suspect she had been projecting her own bad will onto others, yourself included, and it boomeranged back to her. That is life, what goes around comes around. k

I'm glad you wrote this hub to get it off your chest, clear the air AND address what needed to be addressed. I loved the quote at the end.

I'll say what others have already said, "you are well loved and supported here, now onto something more important..." Hugs and a firm pat on the back to you!


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

Shades,

I worked with seamen for many years and my own language became quite flowery and unusually inventive at times, but my wife is a very cultured and civilized human being who frowns at the use of naval invective, no matter how innovative and informative it can get, so I had to give it up :-)))))

And to show you how square I am, I had to Google Lil Wayne to find out who he is :-)))

Many thanks for your comment :-)


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Denise,

The problem is that by writing this, one also acknowledges their existence, but sometimes it is important to make a stand, if only to show some people that even though you keep quiet, you know what they are doing.

And the "quote" at the end is mine, unless someone has preceded me with it without my knowledge :-)))

Many thanks for your kind words. :-)


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ACSutliff 5 years ago

I thought the emperor's clothes were invisible, and THAT'S why he looks naked!

In other words, you have my support, DG!


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

Always good to see you AC and thank you :-)


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

Dimitris - please, relax and get on with the important stuff. We've all been set to read your BOOK, not fussing & fuming over others' trivialities. Now stop that and get busy, 'cuz we love you. OK?


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Nellieanna 5 years ago from TEXAS

When you get back to important stuff, I will vote THAT up. ;-)


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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Hi there Angel Face. My father used to have a saying he was fond of: "If you don't squash a snake when it is small, it may grow up to bite you and the poison then may kill you" :-)

For your information I have been doing a lot of reading which I have found very useful for my own writing. I am now ready to go back to it full time, full of confidence. Thank you for remembering my writing-in-progress :-)


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katiem2 5 years ago from I'm outta here

Hmmmmm, I too take it for what it's intended and offer up one of my most powerful weapons,

You know what you follow, You follow your heart. Continue to follow your heart and speak from the heart with the guidance of your mind as it's resources. Most importantly remember other peoples opinions of you are none of your business. Stay the course, your course!

Much Peace, Love and Joy! :) Katie


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

Well Katie, the opposite of the attacker I referred to is this one here:

http://hubpages.com/education/dimitrisname

:-))))


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ImChemist 5 years ago

Thanks for you great hub.


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ladyjane1 5 years ago from Texas

Let it go my friend let it go :))) Just as you were compelled to defend yourself perhaps that is what happened with this other person and she felt that she needed to defend Martie. She maybe just a monkey in whatever dress she has on but perhaps you should give her the benefit of the doubt, afterall everyone has a bad day and everyone has regrets....Let it go and set yourself free. Cheers to you.


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

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ImChemist

Thank you for passing by and good to see you here :-)

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ladyjane1

The matter is ended for me now that the record is set straight :-) Thanks for passing by :-)


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mulberry1 5 years ago

And it's at times like these, I like my quiet, non-controversial purposes on HubPages. I know you won't let a little spat stop you and that's exactly as it should be.

That sock puppet is just tooooo funny!


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De Greek 5 years ago from UK Author

Hi Mulberry, thank you for passing by. And the monkey doll IS funny isn't it? :-)))

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