Discussing Marital Arguments with Others

How Do You Present Your Marriage and Your Spouse?

First, I have to say that I'm not a counselor, I don't have a degree in psychology or anything related to it. However, I am on a bit of a rant. I've lived quite a while now, have had many married friends and family over the years, and have even been with my husband for over 10 years as well. I have had plenty of chances to observe a number of behaviors and experienced a few of my own as well. What I'm going to talk about is based soley on that, my observations, experiences, and thoughts.

I had dinner with a group of friends last evening. One particular woman in the group is someone I have known for at least eight years. In those eight years I've heard her refer to her husband, beyond just a passing mention, perhaps five or six times. At least four of those discussions were a diatribe about a disagreement they were having. Although I understand the frustration and hieghtened emotion around some marital disagreements, and the desire to vent those feelings, I am baffled as to why someone would present their marriage or their spouse in this way. To me it seems destructive and unfair.

Escalation

I'm not suggesting that a spouse should be secretive. In fact in some instances, such as abuse, information is best shared. But, in a typical marriage, oversharing could perhaps be very destructive.

I'll be the first to say that there may be times when sharing information about a marital disagreement can help you to work through issues. A counselor is probably the most appropriate place for this, but I suppose if you have a very good friend who is not judgemental, keeps opinions to themself, and perhaps has little contact with your spouse, then perhaps it's ok to use them as a sounding board. If they help you think through an issue or simply smile and nod, fine.

What I often witness however, is an escalation. Now I don't know how it plays out at home; perhaps once a spouse has purged their tortured soul in front of others, they are able to go back, and talk more coherently with their spouse.

However, my most recent experience is more typical I think. Once the offending spouse is eviscerated in front of friends or family, then everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Soon, the absent party has been officially declared wrong by the majority vote. I'm always concerned that the original complaint has been inflated, by the angry mob.

Character Assassination

While this is occurring, I also recognize that the people around the table don't exactly represent a fair and balanced view of things. These are the friends and family of one party in this mess. They know and love you. They have accepted your shortcomings and quirks. Unfortunately, their main view of your spouse is what you present to them.

Sometime in the coming days, you will likely work through the issue with your spouse. But there isn't usually much of an update to those involved in the tribunal conducted days before. The other individuals are left with a slanted view of your spouse. One that doesn't include your spouse's change of heart, a compromise proposed, a realization on your part that you had been over reacting, or a really sweet apology. No, your spouse's reputation has been damaged permanently in many cases.

Short Term Gain; Long Term Loss?

I do recognize the short term payoff in sharing some details about arguments with your spouse. As I said before, you simply feel better when you get it off your chest, it's rewarding to have others who love you provide support at a stressful time, and so forth. However, what are the long term consequences?

In my eyes, you just betrayed your best friend. It's kind of like dragging their skeletons out of the closet and displaying them for others to see. In families and tight knit groups of friends, it can be viral. You just spread vitrolic gossip that won't die. Those family and friends will often view your spouse in a negative light forevermore. Is that really what you want? For all of the important people in your life to dislike your spouse? In some instances, I would think this could put you in a difficult spot. You've put friction between the various relationships that are most meaningful to you.

Your friends or family may become quick to judge your spouse. If your spouse is aware of your choice to air your grievances with them, they are left alone, perhaps avoiding their accusers, the other important people in your life. My guess is the long term consequences aren't really worth the short term gratification.

Trust and Friendship

If you look at those same people with whom you're spewing those frustrations, would they be as devoted to you if they knew you were describing them in the same manner that you're describing your spouse right now? Probably not. People who stay life long friends aren't the ones that you gossip about in front of others. Why wouldn't the same be true of a spouse?

Most would agree that trust is an important part of a marital relationship. To me, you've violated the trust with your spouse by basically sabotaging them while they weren't present. If this incident is discovered, wouldn't their trust in you be shaken?

How Many People Are in This Marriage Anyway?

When I have an argument with my spouse, I want to discuss it with my spouse. Last I checked we were the only two people in the marriage. No one else's opinion matters. We need to do our own negotiating and come to our own conclusions. Furthermore, what other people say they would do, and what they would really do in our situation is often two different things. Therefore, I stick with my own instincts and what the two of us decide.

If there is a need for a negotiator, then I'd see a counselor. If I just want to hear about other people's situations to see if they have information that will help based on their successful marriage, then I'll have a general discussion about the topic but not lay out the blow by blow.

Personally, I think that couple's merely need to think carefully about what or how they choose to share the disagreements that they have. A basic discussion with a trusted friend about how they split expenses can be useful, but a scathing editorial about your spouses ideas and actions don't fall in the same category. Betrayal is harder to get by than most simple domestic disagreements about who empties the trash, whether you buy the 2 door or the 4 door car, and so forth.

But, it's all just my opinion.

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Frieda Babbley 7 years ago from Saint Louis, MO

Your rant is a good one. I agree with your points and see that they are well thought out. Marriage is about friendship and intimacy, the closest there are, closer than your friends, at least it should be. So unless it is due to abuse or some such thing, I wouldn't go gallavanting around town hanging your dirty laundry, so to speak. Most all of us do need a trusted personal friend for advice and support and venting, but this is far from the same thing as ragging about your husband or wife to the world in other ways. It's demeaning. It shows lack of character. Great hub. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.


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irenemaria 7 years ago from Sweden

I personally feel really embaressed when somebody take advantage of the fact that I am there, and start to talk down on the mate. It is so bad.


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BrianS 7 years ago from Castelnaudary, France

I agree with you marital relations are best kept private and should not be the subject of public discussions. A good example is how Peter Andre and Katie Price shared every aspect of their private lives and have ultimately paid the price of separation, an extreme example perhaps but does I believe support the argument for keeping things more private in a martial relationship so that you have a chance of working through the problems.


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Sandyspider 7 years ago from Wisconsin, USA

Nice article. I think martial arguments should stay with the couple.


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Nancy's Niche 7 years ago from USA

Good article and points...I believe martial conflicts should remain behind closed doors. Outside influences can sometimes create a worse state of affairs.


Carrie White 7 years ago

Interesting article and you make some very good and valid points :)


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LondonGirl 7 years ago from London

A very interesting hub. If out with friends, a group of relatives, etc, I only ever criticise my OH in a joking way about minor things that don't matter - and never say anything I wouldn't say in front of him. We are a primary unit, and I owe him my loyalty. Part of that loyalty is not putting him down to other people.

So OH, for example, has sometimes said in front of people that I can't navigate my way out of a paper bag, let alone around a town with a map, and I've taken the piss out of the "car sickness" OH gets in the front passenger seat if I'm driving. Nothing more serious or personal than that kind of thing.


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C.S.Alexis 7 years ago from NW Indiana

I am one to feel that the relationship is between the two involved and it should usually stay that way. This should also extend in to all kinds of relationships. My motto...loose lips sink ships!

That is not to say that sometimes a third party can help to sort serious issues.

This is a good subject. thanks for sharing.


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WindyWinters 7 years ago from Vancouver Island, BC

Neat Article. I think it's best to discuss things as a couple or seek counseling.


Bill W 7 years ago

Thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts and comments. I am 50yrs old, married for 16 years and have a son Billy 15. I suffer from depression and had a nasty bout starting in the summer of 2008. Losing interest in just everything that meant ANYTHING to me! At the start of 2009, I began seeing a therapist (great guy!) who was amazing (write me back and we can discuss)however my wife was resentful and angry, frustraed with everything at this point. Now I'm ready to begin the healing processs and she is pissed off! At the time, this blew my mind as I was trying to do and be the person she needed and wanted... Her need to vent was uncontrollable. Personal info about me, my therapy, doctors visits, past hospitalizations was basically discussed in email to several family members and friends. I flipped out! Could not understand why she could do this to me, venting okay, but "our marriage counselor thinks he's bipolar and should be hospitalized" information I was unaware of but share from my wife to my best friend! WHY????????? WHAT GOOD DOES THAT DO?????

There are several incidents that have been shared with mutual friends that are slanted, missing important detail, and never reflect anything positive that I may have done.

She says she loves me and wants things to work out, I say in a clear calm voice "I need you to tell two of our closest friends the complete truth" and I get not response.... HELP.....


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mulberry1 7 years ago Author

I'm sorry that happened to you Bill. Having personal details shared, that you don't want shared, could be very painful I would think. Especially if the information is incomplete or inaccurate! I can understand how you would feel betrayed and want an apology, a retraction/correction, or whatever. I'm no counselor of course, but it would seem that perhaps your wife should maybe attend some sessions with you and the issue of sharing details and being supportive could be discussed? I would think that no matter what the situation is, your feelings about privacy should be considered and the importance of trust recognized and honored.


Bill W 7 years ago

Dear Mulberry,

Thanks for your feedback and support. No one is an angel here and I certainly have a lot of stuff to work out, and will get it done in time... I love my wife, no one else in the world like her... We are (I hope) finally in synch with one another and really listening / hearing one another. Our friends and family love us, and want the best for us, and I want to forgive and move on... it's hard. But the therapist I mentioned in my last entry says very little but the IMPACT --- incredible - i.e. he leaned over to me and quietly whispered (I hope expletives are okay...) to me "Everyone in this world is F'd UP!" We laughed and boy oh boy what a relief it was... Just thinking of all those people who have that ready made label for those of us suffering from a brain disease (you know mental illness doesn't really exist... or so I've read) and feeling sad and sorry that they are not yet strong enough to recognize their own selves... I am not here to judge but to be a friend and help if I can.....


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mulberry1 7 years ago Author

Bill, I'm glad you're getting the support you need! I think your counselor is right on target...everyone is...well, messed up to some extent. In many instances, those who recognize it are merely a step ahead of the rest of us.

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