Thanks For Supporting Gay Marriage President Obama Now Can All Of You “Leaders” Start Fixing Real Issues?


It’s impossible for you if you’re not a gay American to know how much it meant to have President Obama come out and clearly state that he supports gay marriage. It’s not like a parent’s validation but it sure feels awfully close because while so many crazy straightees feel that gays are just whining complaining limp wristed monsters who want to have sex with their children and pets, the truth of the matter is that we’re American citizens who deserve every right our straightee counterparts enjoy in this country. Thanks for supporting gay marriage President Obama now can all of you “leaders” start fixing real issues? – Don’t Get Me Started!


I wait every election year to see how long it will take for the politicians to parade us gays out as a “hot button” issue. Unfortunately I never have to wait too long. And this year was looking like yet another typical election year until President Obama finally did what needed to be done, he clearly and publicly announced that gay marriage is not something that should make you hold your children a little closer to you when a man in Versace leather pants go by but that we’re normal folk just like everyone else and deserve the same rights.

So, GOP and Tea Partiers, now that he’s done it what are you going to do? Are you going to finally stop criticizing everything the Obama Administration has done or tried to do that you’ve blocked in one way or another and start talking about what you believe will help this country get back on its feet or are you going to bring in the old abortion and immigration “hot buttons” now that you can’t use us gays like a drunken straight fraternity boy?

As I see it, politicians are supposed to do more than just campaign and cut down the opposition. They’re supposed to actually lead the country. I know what you thinking, “That’s just crazy, man” but that’s what I thought government by and for the people was all about. It’s time that politicians on both sides start buying us back from China and put people back to work. Maybe if we all had jobs we’d focus less on the executives who are making large salaries because we’d actually have some money in our own pockets.

Let’s start making products in the USA again, shall we? And while we’re at it, let’s start focusing on things like education instead of American Idol as a career path for our kids who no longer even attend class or learn how to socialize as they stay at home with no parental supervision getting their online high school education.

Sometimes progress is good (like Obama coming out for gay marriage) and sometimes we need to re-think it (we make less than 5% of products we buy in America in America). So now that he’s said it, now that President Obama has come right out and said he supports gay marriage let’s get on it with it, shall we? And while we’re at it, look around people. You’ll notice the heavens and earth didn’t open up and swallow our civilization up whole, did it? You’ll notice there’s been no wrath of God nor have women stopped having children. So shut up about your bible, shoving it in everyone’s face as you translate it to suit your needs and let’s start fixing this country, focusing on real issues, shall we?

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Earth Angel 4 years ago

Good Morning Mr. and Mr. Funny Bones!

I was soooooooooo glad to hear the President, finally! Way, way too long for a President of the United States to "come out!" Romney's reply was solidly in the other direction!

I do think it will have a huge impact on the outcome of the election ~ in Obama's favor! (Not that I thought he would ever lose!!)

"They’re supposed to actually lead the country." Not exactly, Mr. Funny Bone, they are supposed to carry out the will of the people!

That's one of the problems, in our language/conversations, we refer to our politicians as "leaders" when they are supposed to be "following" the dictums of the majority!!

Otherwise I applaude you loudly, as I always do, with your insights! And cutting sense of humor!!

Blessings to Mr. and Mr. Forever!! Earth Angel!


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somelikeitscott 4 years ago from Las Vegas Author

EA - Okay, I sit corrected. You are of course correct - they should be carrying out the will of the people. As always good to hear from you. Sending big love your way!


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Daffy Duck 4 years ago from Cornelius, Oregon

What a great article! Maybe you should send it to the GOP. Of course they'll just take this issue and make it out to be a godless direction that this country wasn't founded on. Unfortunately they will forget that our ancestors massacred thousands of native american while lying to their faces about us being friends. They'll also forget that this country discriminated against blacks, asians, and every other non-white human as well as all women. And the whole time this was going on there were religious leaders running our colonies condoning the whole damn thing. Now it's an obvious mistake treating them like that, but they still do it to gays and justify it through the bible--just like before.


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JamaGenee 4 years ago from Central Oklahoma

Bravo, Mr. President!! With that one statement, he once and for all totally marginalized the Bible-thumpers and shined a much-needed spotlight on what and who they REALLY are. Without losing a lick of "political capital" by doing so! No one in that creepy bunch was going to vote for him any way. The days of trying to "reach across the aisle" are over. And if his coming out for LGBTs didn't ensure his re-election, Wall Street imploding (again) surely will. That's the other giant that needed a good whack in the chops.

As for imploring the Rethugs in Congress to turn their attention to carrying out the will of The People, it ain't gonna happen. Their agenda was set by KochBros, Grover Norquist and Karl Rove. The only option is a thorough Housecleaning - the House of Representatives! - by voting the sanctimonious bastards out in November.


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somelikeitscott 4 years ago from Las Vegas Author

DD and JamaGenee - As always thanks for not only reading but sharing your own thoughts and wisdom on this (and all) matters. I hate to say it but I'm just Anne Frank at heart, believing all people are good at heart...and then she got killed! :) Thanks again!


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peoplepower73 4 years ago from Placentia California

My 43 year old son just came out about two weeks ago. It puts a whole different light on the issue when it is someone close in your family. When he told us,there was no drama. In fact, I toasted his life style. Now at least he can get on with his life without any hidden agenda.

I heard Rush Limbaugh say that what Obama is doing is creating a war on the straight people. I don't know how his line of reasoning works, but it certainly is not rational. Thanks for this great hub, voting up, useful and sharing.


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barryrutherford 4 years ago from Queensland Australia

I agree its great that marriage will eventally become legally possible. How is it so unthinkable now that at least within my lifetime gay and homosexual relationships were treated as a criminal offence. And as such the gay and lesbian peoples lives were brutalised by society including the criminal justice system. Show that our attitudes and beliefs can change for the better with a little ffort


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adjkp25 4 years ago from Northern California

Personally, as a straight guy, I have no problem with him coming out (no pun intended) and giving his support to same sex marriages. Here in California a recently passed bill blocking same sex marriages is still stuck in the legal system and might be erased.

I work with a couple of gay guys and I could honestly care less about their love interests. I don't understand why so many people feel it is OK to judge someone else and their lifestyle choices.


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derek gulbranson 4 years ago from San Francisco

Actually, I would say that the reason Obama had not yet taken a position on this issue until now is actually because he was focused on fixing real issues. That's ok though, a president should know that no one will ever be satisfied with anything they do. It comes with the job.


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Maralexa 4 years ago from Vancouver, Canada and San Jose del Cabo, Mexico

As a Canadian I offer my opinion with great respect to you all, my American friends. I follow closely your politics and your leadership issues especially at a time when presidential races push important political, economic and social concerns to the forefront. Where you and your country go so do we to a great extent.

Your president “coming out” and stating that “same-sex couples should be able to get married,” says to me you have a president who believes in equal rights for all people be they white/black, male/female, gay/straight. In fact, he is saying this is a civil rights issue not a religious issue. It would appear it is still a religious issue for the GOP. It also appears the GOP has entirely forgotten that the US Constitution was written on the basis of separating church and state.

Please forgive me for sticking my nose in where you may think it doesn’t belong.

The truth is I admire the process you are going through and wish you the best of success in the coming months.

Sincerely, Marilyn


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alphagirl 4 years ago from USA

Why do they have to ate gay or straight! A marriage is a vow! Who ever said it was only between man and woman? Just because you are married and straight doesn't make you a better person! Wish the politics would stay out of marital issues and fix the economy, make jobs appear, lower high education costs, come up with a health plan that we can all live with!


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somelikeitscott 4 years ago from Las Vegas Author

Thank you all for your comments. I have been very fortunate to have surrounded myself with people in my life (both gay and straight and some who defy definition) that get that my loving and being with my spouse for the last 23 years is just the same as the people with marriage certificates. The differences however unfortunately are great from an economic and social point of view. I'm certain we'll get there eventually and while we're getting there, it's just nice to read all of you on the side of humanity instead of hate. Thanks again for all your reading, writing and sharing!


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Ciel Clark 4 years ago from USA

Thank you President Obama and thank you somelikeitscott for this hub. When Obama was in my town (pre-election) that was the first time I told my (adult) students to skip my classes in order to go hear him speak. Great day.

I have been struggling to find products made in the USA... Especially difficult when I want to find end of semester game prizes for my (mostly Chinese) students. Great hub, thanks, CC


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somelikeitscott 4 years ago from Las Vegas Author

Ciel - thanks for reading and writing in. Adult education? One of my pals was just voted the Adult Educator of the Year in his city.

People don't understand just how important adult education is for all of us - I know I'm a complete idiot and could really use some!

Keep up the good work and keep looking for those Made in the USA products, they gotta be out there somewhere, right?


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Ciel Clark 4 years ago from USA

Congratulations to your friend! Adult education is important-- lots of people are more ready to learn later. (My dad started college when he was retired and went on to teach!). I started teaching kids, then when I had some of my own, I changed to teaching adults. (For sanity --not sure if it is working). The worst prize I gave out this last semester was a "Native American" dream catcher. (Made in China). Sigh.


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tom hellert 4 years ago from home

SLIS,

I promise this to you ... I will not lie or curb how I feel based on "public pressures ... or being the only person with the opposite view....I am sure all sorts of mean names will be shot my way but If you do not stand up for what you believe in you will soon be lying ina grave with them...

As such, i know gay folk,I have no issues with the way they live , who am I to say what is right or wrong- I will not bore you with religeous quotes or rhetoric but I do not support "gay marriage"-qualifiers alert-

1. I am for civil unions with all the same benefits/drawbacks of a marriage.

2. I oppose the term being called a "marriage" .. amazingly that is basically it..

3. I have issues with the militant way the issue gets forced down stright peoples throats...

4. If an amendment were to be voted on to "standardize gay civil unions"- as civil unions- I'm on board why not WTF! why not...cmon gays join the party misery loves company - haha-LOL

5. to those who say it has to be a "marriage" I say- "a name - what is in a name would not a rose by any name still smell as sweet".

As a scientist nomenclature is key to me.. you may think it petty but- its a princip;e I stand on and defend it- When someone come back at me and says then why do you opposeonly the name? I will reply why is it so important for it to be qualified by that name to you... and at that point we reach an impass- a quixotic Nomenblature conundrum...

TH


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somelikeitscott 4 years ago from Las Vegas Author

Tom - I respect anyone's right to their opinion. Allow me to just educate you on one not so small issue. Civil Unions do not carry all the rights that marriage do in the eyes of the law. In fact, most civil unions only allow people limited rights. For a small example, with the federal Defense of Marriage Act in place and no same sex marriages allowed, we gays pay twice as much as our "married" counterparts as we have to file as individuals with the IRS. This is only one of close to 1,000 benefits that "married" people are given that we gays are fighting for.

My thought would be that many feel as you do that the word "marriage" should be saved for the man/woman couples. As I've said before, I don't want the shoes and rice, I want the rights! Maybe if everyone received Civil Unions (with all the benefits currently attached to marriages) and we let the churches and other religious organizations worry about "marrying" people I could go along however that is simply not the case at the moment.

I have been with the same man for 23 years, convince me I don't deserve all the rights that my straight counterparts get for being married for 23 minutes. Don't bother, you won't convince me!


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tom hellert 4 years ago from home

S,

why do you assume I would try to change your mind-I did not reply to change your mind my response was really not about you surprisingly (or really not) my response was about ME... since I am the only person here I really know, with some notable freinds...I wouldnt even try to speak for anyone else....So instead of getting mad at me tell me some of the differences at this point you said there are 1000's I gotta say That seems a bit inflated to me....Could it be I dont know enough about this and want information or should I not "bother" there either???

Not every person is going to try to change your mind I promise the only bible verse I will use will be--- "Judge not lest ye be judged yourself". that being said- what say you now? I am curious about your green icon used as you identifier mine is a portrait on a few minutes after some hot tex-mex food...

TH


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somelikeitscott 4 years ago from Las Vegas Author

T -

Believe me, no anger toward you or your opinions at all. Sorry if that's how it read.

Please know I'm always open to read people's opinions and while I understand that it may seem implausible that there are so many rights not granted under Civil Unions, according to the Equal Marriage NOW site, here's the following information:

Marriage is a unique legal status conferred by and recognized by governments all over the world. It brings with it a host of reciprocal obligations, rights and protections. It is also a cultural institution. No other word has that power and no other status can provide that protection.

Married couples have 1,138 federal rights, protections and responsibilities such as:

•Social Security benefits upon death, disability or retirement of spouse, as well as benefits for minor children.

•Family and Medical Leave protections to care for a new child or a sick or injured family member

•Workers' Compensation protections for the family of a worker injured on the job

•Access to COBRA insurance benefits so the family doesn't lose health insurance when one spouse is laid off

•ERISA (Employee Retirement Income Security Act) protections such as the ability to leave a pension, other than Social Security, to your spouse

•Exemptions from penalties on IRA and pension rollovers

•Exemptions from estate taxes when a spouse dies

•Exemptions from federal income taxes on spouse's health insurance

•The right to visit a sick or injured loved one, have a say in life and death matters during hospitalization.

What is a civil union?

A civil union is a legal status granted by a state. The State of Vermont created civil unions in 2000. It provides legal protection to couples at the state law level, but omits federal protections, as well as the dignity, clarity, security and power of the word "marriage".

Civil unions are different from civil marriage and that difference has wide-ranging implications that make the two institutions unequal, such as:

Portability:

Marriages are respected state to state for all purposes but questions remain as to how civil unions will be treated in other states. The two appellate courts that have addressed the issue in Connecticut and Georgia have disregarded them based on the fact that their own states do not grant civil unions.

Federal Benefits:

According to a 1997 General Accounting Office report, civil marriage brings with it at least 1,049 legal protections and responsibilities from the federal government alone. Civil unions bring none of these critical legal protections.

Taxes and Public Benefits for the Family:

Because the federal government does not respect civil unions, a couple with a civil union will be in a kind of limbo with regard to governmental functions performed by both state and federal governments, such as taxation, pension protections, provision of insurance for families, and means-tested programs like Medicaid. Even when states try to provide legal protections, they may be foreclosed from doing so in joint federal/state programs.

Filling Out Forms:

Every day we fill out forms that ask us whether we are married, single, divorced or widowed. People joined in a civil union do not fit in any of those categories. People with civil unions should be able to identify themselves as a single family unit yet misrepresenting oneself on official documents can be considered fraud and can carry potential serious criminal penalties.

Separate and Unequal—Second Class Status:

Even if there were no substantive differences in the way the law treated marriages and civil unions, the fact that a civil union remains a separate status only for gay people represents real and powerful inequality. The United States Constitution requires legal equality for all. Including lesbian and gay couples within existing marriage laws in is the fairest and simplest thing to do.

Ending a Civil Union:

If you are married, you can get divorced in any state in which you are a resident. But if states continue to disregard civil unions, there is no way to end the relationship other than establishing residency in Vermont and filing for dissolution there. This has already created problems for couples who now have no way to terminate their legal agreement.


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tom hellert 4 years ago from home

S,

HMMM... Additional thought and study seems warranted give me a maximum of 100 days 15 hours and 42 minutes 12 seconds ...at most....

TH


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gabgirl12 4 years ago

Yep, its encouraging. But until it's set in stone, they are just words scott. I have to agree completely...get real! As I'm reading your hub, I can see you're just tired of all the nonsense. I really hope some substance comes out of that statement from a very 'active' President. He's got a good track record so far...Osama, Khadafi and Anwar-Al Awlaki...are all dead. But that isn't enough. If we gets re-elected I hope he focuses on working on the enriching the country, and not so much on vindicating it.


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somelikeitscott 4 years ago from Las Vegas Author

T,

Go ahead and do your research, I totally respect that and your opinion.

S

gabgirl - "enriching the country" I like that...a lot!!!


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Jewels 4 years ago from Australia

'Education instead of American Idol as a career path!' What a fab statement. In Aussieland Woolworths are now doing a promotion for education of kids - you know a few cents of your grocery bill is being donated to the cause by Woolworths - that type of thing. And as part of the advert it has children getting prepped and primed for shows like Australia's Got Talent - one of those American Idol type shows. Amaaaaazing - you can't avoid feeding the monster.

Great hub by the way and good luck getting your arms and legs back from China.


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tom hellert 4 years ago from home

ok scotty ole boy I have done my research and have determined a lot-

first off i figured out-I personally dont give a damn... Ive looked at both sides and determined....when it all boils down i couldn't care less...UNLESS people get in my grill and start telling me what i mUST believe and support -then I am the guy who will support the opposite out of spite so as long as noone jumps up and starts screaming at me that I have to do this or believe that-I really am quite despondant... I understand both arguements personal choice vs personal/religeous beliefs.... s for gay marriage i will quote a famous comedian-I fogot his name "why should gays be denied the right to be miserable.?..." or something close to that... so ... my only issue is the way we are being told IT HAS TO HAPPEN...i understand the need for awareness blah blah information sharing blah blah squeaky wheel blah blah... but i dont like being told i must do or believe in something so aside from the way its thrwn out there ..I couldn't care less based on the fact I doont remember a damn thing about your hubb- other than i was to give you ananswer- it did not influence my decision at AT ALL.... so there you have it American apathy at its finest long live the USA...as it was not as its turning into....

with regards

TH

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