The Feminist Movement

The Feminist Movement

A poll in Marie Claire reveals that a third of American women consider themselves feminists. All Americans believe that women should be well treated.

The ideas of the feminist movement permeate media, government, and schools. They glorify promiscuity and proclaim that no “modern” girl associates sex with love—and certainly not with marriage. Sex is a casual activity for pleasure. But there are consequences for the choices we make. Life always comes round to collect its debts.

The early feminist movement encouraged women to work in non-traditional fields. But the movement was taken over by radicals who were overly hostile to marriage, motherhood, and the family. They saw men as enemies, only out to oppress them. Women were encouraged to leave their children at day care. Romance itself was disparaged as sexist. Sexual liberation came to mean promiscuity, divorce, and singlehood, through which it promised to bring women lasting happiness—especially if they would go lesbian.

But are women happier? No! Women were happier before the Feminist Movement and in fact since 1970 the level of happiness among American women has been in a slow but steady decline.

BRAINS: MALE AND FEMALE HE MADE THEM
BRAINS: MALE AND FEMALE HE MADE THEM

The Brains of Men and Women

The brains of men and women are created differently. Feminists were wrong about their number one point, which was that ‘gender is a nothing more than a social construct invented by men to oppress women.’ It is fine to note women’s advantages—innate verbal ability, for instance. But it has become taboo to note any natural advantage men have, such as spatial tasking.

There are masculine and feminine brains. The brains of women are networked while men’s are compartmentalized. The two spheres are less connected in men. Add in testosterone, which makes normal boys aggressive creatures that enjoy rough play, mechanical things, and building stuff. Women with high testosterone are more like men, but masculine and feminine characteristics appear universally around the world through all of history.

VERY FUNNY
VERY FUNNY

Wage Gap?

Women now earn more than half of all college degrees and own 8.5 million businesses in the United States. But the Independent Women’s Forum found that if a woman was married to a husband who made enough money to where life was not a struggle, only 15 percent of working women said they would continue to work full time. 33 percent would not work at all. The rest would want to work part-time or do volunteer work. Feminists have always pushed the government for policies that push women into the work force.

The facts of life are that it is women who bear children and who have always been the primary caregivers for their children. There is no question but that the female gender has a strong impulse to nurture.

The so-called “gender wage gap” is based on deception. It is true that the average American woman makes 75 percent of the yearly wage of the average American man. But the average woman spends 10 years out of the workforce altogether, caring for their young, while the men must keep working, and while they do they continue to learn, and get promotions and raises. By the age of 40, the average man has ten years more work experience than a woman.

Far more women than men say that having flexible hours is more important to them than wages. The average man works 7 percent more hours per week. Childless women make 98 percent as much as childless men and that gap is more than explicated by the fact that dangerous jobs pay more and 92 percent of workplace deaths and injuries are suffered by men.

If women truly did the same work as men for 75 percent of the money, some smart company would hire all women and put the competition out of business.

UH HUH
UH HUH

Women's Studies

Men are far more likely to be victims of violence. But textbooks used in college courses called ‘Women’s Studies’ claim that “Women are the perpetual victims of male violence, sanctioned by the media, courts, economic system, and religion. It is the control of women by men through fear.”

Women’s Studies also use taxpayer monies to promote lesbianism, as opposed to “being a victim of heterosexual bribery.” Textbooks used in Women’s Studies lament heterosexuality because it “blinds people to other possibilities for human sexual feelings and practice.” Women ought to be “more open to their lesbian potential” since women have “much to learn from lesbian love and sex, which is more positive and self-affirming than sex with men because lesbians are more acutely aware of the needs of their partners” as well as “more able to discover and express ‘authentic’ female sexuality than their heterosexual counterparts.” Why? “Because lesbians have ‘non-exploitive’ relationships.”

Women’s Studies courses feature not one positive image of a heterosexual, monogamous relationship. It primarily promotes homosexual behaviors and implies that the only good in heterosexuality is found in promiscuity.

The college textbook Issues in Feminism teaches our daughters that the Contract with America was not only anti-woman but also racist. Women’s Studies programs are notorious for misusing statistics and presenting misleading information as facts. Women’s Studies professors admit they reject academic standards in favor of using classrooms to recruit.

Women commit half of all relationship violence. Married women are far less likely to be the victim of violence than those who are single, divorced, or cohabitating. 2/3 of female victims of domestic violence are not married.

One out of 23 American women have been raped or been the victim of a rape attempt but the media reports—and women surveyed believe—1 in 4 have. This is a phony number made up out of thin air by feminists. Jealous or spiteful women have incarcerated millions of innocent men.

6 out of 10 college age women admit they have said no to a man on a date even though they fully intended to have sexual intercourse with him later that same night. But feminists say seduction itself is rape—unless it is homosexual seduction.

NOWSTRADAMUS
NOWSTRADAMUS

The Politics of Feminism

Because the feminist movement convinced so many women that government should replace fathers in our society, women—if they are not married—vote more for Democrats. In fact, without the votes of women, not one Democrat would have won a presidential election since the 1940s.

Dependence on government is not independence. And women becoming independent is—from its beginnings—what the feminist movement claimed to be all about. Feminists reject patriarchy but insist women must have a daddy-like government to take care of them and their children.

American women today live longer and are healthier than at any time in our history. It is crazy for them to want to dismantle our health care system. In the last 70 years we have added 20 years to the average woman’s life. Canadians have national health care, and they wait months to see a specialist and months to receive treatment they need.

The media consistently showcases feminist groups as the spokeswomen for all women and the feminist agenda is for a massive government that is bankrupting our nation. The majority of American women are still Christians but check the bios of the leaders of every prominent feminist group and you will find one thing that goes unreported: Not one of them is a Christian.

If feminists are so gung-ho about 'choice' why are they so hostile towards school choice? Because public schools disseminate their propaganda.

FEMINIST SIGNS
FEMINIST SIGNS

Sex Education

Sex Education programs in our public schools assume all the kids are going to have sex anyway, so the school may as well distribute condoms (regardless of parental approval). But among children ages 15-17, 72% of girls are still virgins and 64% of boys are. The attitude of their schools makes kids think their peers are far more sexually active than they are. Both sexes vastly overestimate how many of their classmates are sexually active. This is so important because what they are told is ‘normal’ affects their decisions.

Sex Education is really designed to teach a certain set of values to the youth of America—progressive liberal values, which are 180 degrees opposed to those of the Church. The same organization that uses taxpayer money to fight for abortion and 'social justice' (socialism)—SEICUS—is paid to develop sex education courses that ridicule the very notion of abstinence as antiquated.

By age 20, 1 in 3 girls will get pregnant—80% out-of-wedlock. 30% of those babies will be killed in the womb.

FEMINISTS GOSSIP
FEMINISTS GOSSIP

Courtship Vs Hooking Up

Virginity was once recognized as virtuous. Feminists insisted women had the same sex drive as men, but that men had stifled it in females to ‘keep them in their place.’

Courtship conveyed that a man was willing to go through a lot of time and trouble for one girl—the one girl he thought to be THE ONE. A woman who was ‘hard to get’ when single would be nearly impossible for others to get once married.

“The courtship dance is the unspoken pledge of future fidelity—the best basis for a happy marriage.” (Mary Elizabeth Podles)

Now people are ‘hooking up’ instead—sex without strings between strangers. 40 percent of college girls have done it—10 percent more than six times. (Institute for American Values)

But the dramatic increase in availability of sex to men has greatly diminished female power. A woman’s ability and willingness to withhold sex disciplined male behavior. A man had to woo a woman, demonstrate ‘sincere’ interest, and invest in their relationship. Nothing is expected of men who have sex with women today. Therefore, many women are wasting their time with men unwilling to commit—who treat them poorly and even cheat. Even virtuous women feel pressure to have sex to have any hope of competing with sluts. Casual sex was supposed to empower women, but it clearly does the opposite.

FOURTH WAVE FEMINISM
FOURTH WAVE FEMINISM

Casual Sex

Many women regret casual sex the next day—and even years later when they have found the ‘love of their lives’ and are ready for marriage. Women’s magazines say sex is merely recreational—a meaningless hobby. If you haven’t had lots of lovers you are missing out on something. The sexually promiscuous live exciting, colorful lives compared to boring monogamy. But the Kaiser Family Foundation found that 60 percent of sexually active high school girls wish they were still virgins. A poll in Glamour showed that only 7 percent of adult women wished they had slept with more men, but that 49 percent regretted having slept with so many.

There is no doubt that men are more likely to marry—or at least be serious about—a woman who is sexually modest, and not easy. Men love loose women for fun but usually not long-term because loose women are not as trustworthy.

Women feel connected to a man after sex because they release hormones—especially oxytocin—that men do not. But feminists have told them that those natural feelings are nothing more than social conditioning by a patriarchal society.

THE FEMINISTS TEN COMMANDMENTS
THE FEMINISTS TEN COMMANDMENTS

Sexually Transmitted Disease

One-half of American college students have had a one-night-stand; 43% cheated on someone they love; 36% had sex with someone they didn’t even like, nonetheless love; 25% said they think people should remain virgins until they are married.

Women are much more vulnerable to the physical consequences of casual sex—most obviously pregnancy but also sexually transmitted diseases. By age 24, fully a third of Americans have contracted a STD. 10 million Americans each year age 15-24 are infected with a STD. 20% of all Americans over age 12 have genital herpes—45 million people. 50% of all Americans have HPV, which causes terminal cervical cancer in women. Chlamydia has skyrocketed and causes infertility. Only 1/3 of women even know they are more susceptible to STDs than men. Females are 8 times more likely to get HIV from heterosexual sex. And 4 times more likely to contract gonorrhea.

Once a teenager has sex it gets easier to say yes. The younger a girl starts the more numerous her eventual partners, and the more infected by STDs she will be. Condoms do not reduce HPV and do not prevent syphilis or genital herpes.

The wages of sin is death.

COURTSHIP DEEMED SEXIST
COURTSHIP DEEMED SEXIST

FERTILITY

Feminists were also wrong when they told women they could postpone childbearing without any negative consequences. A female human being is born with all the eggs she will ever have. The supply depletes with time. AND the eggs age and decline in quality. The potential for problem pregnancies goes up as a woman ages. Under age 30, less than 10 percent of women ever have a miscarriage but by age 40 it is 33 percent. Older eggs produce more genetic abnormalities, likely including Down syndrome, Autism, and other birth defects.

Of the 33 percent of American women over 40 who have no children, only one-quarter of them say they would make that choice again. That is why fertility is a $2.7 billion business nowadays.

Creating a Life by Sylvia Ann Hewlett was published to “celebrate achievements of women in big business” but if you read between the lines of the profiles—not ONE of the women ever had a child (that lived beyond the womb). The few women who would talk about this used words like “feelings of loss” and “heartbroken.”

OPPRESSED LADIES WERE HAPPIER THAN WOMEN NOW!
OPPRESSED LADIES WERE HAPPIER THAN WOMEN NOW!

God Is Pro-life

The Devil preaches that a Pro-Life position is anti-woman, apparently hoping we will all forget that more than half of all babies killed before birth would have eventually become women. How can anyone think that snuffing out their own offspring is a key to the happiness of women?

Even if Roe v Wade were overturned by the Supreme Court—as it should be because there is certainly no right to abort babies in our Constitution (the Founding Fathers would not have known any women who would have contemplated such an atrocity)—it would not immediately outlaw abortion as the pro-death movement would have you believe. What would happen is that abortion laws would be set on a state-by-state basis. There would be as much chance of abortion being outlawed by the state legislatures of New York or California as a fart would have surviving a whirlwind. The most recent studies show that 21 states would probably make it illegal except if the mother might die, or was a victim of rape or incest. And that is exactly what the vast majority of the people who live in those states would want to see. 20 states would keep it legal in nearly every situation. The other nine are closely divided and it is unclear what would happen there. We should bring back the truly American system of government, which is that it is the job of the legislature to make laws. That is why they are called legislators: they legislate.

THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT HAS HAD TWO MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS: THIS IS ONE
THE FEMINIST MOVEMENT HAS HAD TWO MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS: THIS IS ONE

MARRIAGE

Feminists claim that marriage is nothing but a cruel trap to make women subservient to men. But married women report that they have sex more often and are more sexually satisfied than unmarried women. Men and women exhibit better mental health if they are married. Divorce causes deterioration in mental and physical health for men and women. Did you know that married women and men are twice as likely to be happy?

Married men and women are healthier, happier, and wealthier. Married people are not only far less likely to end up in the poorhouse, but also 90 percent of women say that their marriage makes them happy. Married people save 7 percent more of their earnings, which compounds yearly. All categories of physical health come up better for married people.

5 million Americans just live together, not needing that “piece of paper”—ten times more than in 1970. But studies show they argue more, communicate poorly, are less happy, and are twice as likely to end up divorced when they do get married.

There are solid reasons why weddings have always been celebrated the world over. All of society benefits. No other relationship receives such outward approval and support. Marriage preserves the social order of humanity and lessens the load on social services of all types. Nothing nurtures the next generation like marriage. Kids raised by both natural parents are vastly less likely to be a burden on society, being far less apt to become alcoholics, drug addicts, criminals, dropouts, or to birth bastards of their own. More productive citizens make the community better for us all. The only relationship in which society has an interest to promote is traditional marriage.

THIS IS THE OTHER
THIS IS THE OTHER

DIVORCE

Many women regret divorce. Divorce is as old as marriage, but until the 1970s it was always a last resort for the truly miserable. Now it has come to be seen as a fine outcome for an imperfect marriage, especially if a "better catch” comes along.

The National Survey of Families and Households shows five years after getting a divorce the divorcees are no happier than people who stayed in unhappy marriages for commitment. Even those who remarried were no happier.

Like life itself, marriage has mood swings. Many unhappy marriages are, five years later, happy marriages. Half of all the people who have divorced wish they hadn’t. 67 percent of people who almost got divorced say they are glad they didn’t five years later. Think about that.

According to The Case for Marriage by Linda Waite and Maggie Gallagher, "Permanent marital unhappiness is surprisingly rare among couples who stick it out.”

The Feminist Effect on Children

The Woodstock Generation showed itself to be the most narcissistic in human history and its children are inclined toward nihilism. We were more than willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of our children to “find ourselves”—as if we were missing.

Adolescents from broken homes are prone to feel depressed; to skip school, be held back or get expelled; to vandalize property and steal; to smoke; to be sexually active; and develop learning disabilities. Even children raised by a parent with a stepparent are 3 times more likely to end up in prison than one raised by both natural parents.

The Unexpected Legacy of Divorce explodes the satanic lies of feminism, including the lie that divorce only hurts kids temporarily—if at all. Decades later the devastating effects linger. 25% of divorced kids do drugs and alcohol by age 14; 50% by age 17. Among divorced girls, 1 in 5 engages in intercourse by age 14; and by high school half are having sex with multiple partners. Girls with both parents in their home typically have no sexual experience before their senior year of high school or after they go away to college.

But it turns out you have to wait until divorced kids become adults to see the full scope of the damage. They have trouble forming loving relationships with anybody. Children of divorce are far more likely to exhibit anti-social pathologies both immediately and for the rest of their lives.

Children raised in day care exhibit far more emotional and behavioral problems. But to feminists, the very idea of women caring for their own children is anti-woman. They demand government provide day care and the message is that the government should raise our children.

But a recent Pew Survey of women shows that they virtually all think children need one parent at home. Even women working full time think the best arrangement is dad working and mom at home. 41% of women say working mothers are bad for children—17% say good.

Day care hurts children, and causes behavioral problems such as aggression, which for boys means: Dope them up with Ritalin. The more time spent in non-parental care the more they exhibit bad behavior—mental problems and social pathologies—not to mention they are more often ill and suffer from more infections.

My primary source for this article is The Politically Incorrect Guide to Women, Sex, and Feminism by Carrie L. Lukas.

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carol7777 4 years ago from Arizona

This was not only funny in parts but very enlightening. I learned a few new facts here..actually a lot. Also made me glad I stayed home with my kids. the first divorce was inevitable but it went fairly smoothly. Great hub with lots of good information. Voting up+++ Plus sharing in facebook.


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lrc7815 4 years ago from Central Virginia

First, let me say that this is a great hub that I thoroughly enjoyed reading. I may be a minority, in fact, I know I am. But I blame many of the things that are wrong in our society on the feminist movement. When women began competing with me rather than honoring and building on their own strengths, life changed for our children, the business world, and the social structure of our society. I recently wrote a hub on the ifferences in men and women and how we have compromised the strengths of both. This subject is near and dear to me. Good job.


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picklesandrufus 4 years ago from Virginia Beach, Va

Very informative, well written hub. I don't agree with about 90 percent of it, but respect your right to write it.


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Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

Good one! My mom used to say "Liberated women have always been liberated" when asked her opinion on the women's liberation movement and throughout my life I've found that to be true. Excellent Hub and writing -- Best/Sis


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA.

An excellent article James. I totally agree that the feminist movement has created huge societal problems and leaves a horrible legacy for future generations. Personally, I think that ANY special interest group causes far more problems than it solves (If any).

Thank you for this straightforward piece, Mark


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cynthtggt 4 years ago from New York, NY

This is a great hub about a subject not spoken loudly enough for obvious reasons. Power, power, power, is what it all comes down to in the end. I am very interested on the impact working women have on their family, particularly with the rising hate of women by younger men and younger women (who proudly call themselves "sluts"). We tend to be influenced by what we read. For example, the Hite Report - which you wrote a hub on - was not the first book to say that 70% of men cheated on their wives. My mother, an astute and devoted Christian, was severely demeaned by my father and I will remember it for the rest of my life. In fact, my whole neighborhood and school knew all about it. Moreover, the lack of medical treatment for women we see today and the soaring and unnecessary hysterectomies indicates that there is not just nothing to the Feminist Movement; rather, it was what we marched for. I am not sure obtaining power for power's sake accomplished much. There's more to this problem than meets the eye. But I must say that when we look at the women of Egypt and the genital mutuliation that is a daily fact of life, and then we look at the psychology of pedophilia and seriel killings of women - there is something dark and murky underneath that the men fail to see in themselves. The problem is that very few people truly love other people. Most people need love more than they can give it, and Woody Allen was right when he makes one of his characters say, "The universe is contracting." Life is hard.


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liftandsoar 4 years ago from Richmond, VA

Once again, James, you've nailed it.


SirDent 4 years ago

A can of worms? Great writing, as always is expected from you my brother.

I must say you have shown what the feminist movement is really all about. Some info I kind of thought anyway but new info that I never thought about.

I expect you to get some backlash from some members here so let me know if it gets too heavy for you. I will help all I am able.


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TexasLadyJuanita 4 years ago from Kemah, TX

I have read several hundred articles this year; Some in magazines, some in hubs, some on other similar sites. This is the best one I have read. I preach the accuracy of this information whenever I get a chance; and believe in it one hundred percent. I would give anything if I had married my husband when I was 19. It would have been better for my children and myself. The one situation perhaps not explored is the abusive co-dependent. I do not regret my divorces due to being abused. I sought help to understand why, and changed my life. The two of five that John and I finished raising were able to see the difference in a wonderful marriage, and it shows in their committment to their marriages. Thank you for a wonderful read.


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FitnezzJim 4 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

Good grief, for this one I gave up reading and just looked at the pictures. Absolutely Hilarious.


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Mazzy Bolero 4 years ago from the U.K.

I am old enough to remember what it was like before the feminist movement. I knew a female teacher who had lived in the same rented room for 18 years, no kitchen and sharing a bathroom with 6 strangers. Despite having a professional job, she could afford no better. Single women in the early 70s in the UK were not allowed to get mortgages, or in fact any kind of credit.

They were also kept out of many of the professions - some medical schools had a maximum 5% female intake. Law schools were similar. Most women were entirely financially dependent on a man. This meant that women who were repeatedly beaten by their husbands had to put up with it or risk losing their home and their kids. The law was not on the woman's side - if she left it was classed as "desertion" and she was blamed, regardless of the reason.

I never hated men and I never wanted to destroy the family or marriage and I don't think many, if any, women did who supported feminism. We just wanted to be treated fairly as human beings.


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teaches12345 4 years ago

I loved the cartoon posts. You have done an excellent job in posting information on this topic. I am old-schooled, but I still believe that woman can still be married, raise their own children and live a fulfilled life. It takes work and dedication, but the efforts are rewarding. Voted way up!!


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

carol7777— Thank you very much for being my first visitor! :-)

I am glad you "got" my wicked sense of humor. Life is funny when you think about it. And strange. And sad. And wonderful.

I am honored that you would share this article with your friends on Facebook. That is high praise indeed. And I surely appreciate the 'voted up' and your kind compliments.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

lrc7815— I look forward to reading your "hub on the differences in men and women and how we have compromised the strengths of both." That sounds quite interesting. What is the title?

I will tell you one thing that eventually happened after most of the women in the country went to work: many people could no longer get by on one paycheck. I think of it this way: you've got X amount of jobs that need to be done and X amount of workers, most of whom were men, while their wives ran the home and nurtured the children. When you add all those women to pool of available workers, you now have twice as many workers but about the same amount of work to be done. Over time this naturally—not perniciously, there is nothing sinister about it, it is natural market forces of supply and demand—drives wages down because twice as many people are now in the labor pool. Forty years later I hear many couples saying, "We wish my wife could stay home with the kids but we need her paycheck."

My parents and grandparents didn't need her paycheck. But today people do.

Thank you for reading my work. I appreciate the compliments as well.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

picklesandrufus— Thank you!! Thank you very much! :D


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south

I don't usually comment on articles that denigrate women or any other bloc of people but this one simply amazes me. The article is well written which is always expected from you, but the fact that there are so many comments applauding this misogynistic attitude, really does amaze me and makes one wonder what provokes these kinds of negative attacks on other human beings. We, as a societal whole, should be embracing diversity, promoting tolerance, and insisting on equality for everyone. I guess humanity still has a long way to go in its evolution.


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rfmoran 4 years ago from Long Island, New York

Thoughtful well written hub. Your photos and cartoons add to the punch of your message. Your statistics are compelling. Helen Gurley Brown must be spinning in her grave. Voted up and awesome and interesting.


SirDent 4 years ago

d.william, this article does not attack human beings at all. It attacks the idea and principles that were set in motion from the organization that started the feminist movement.

Can anyone honestly say everything is better now than they were 60 years ago? Two incomes is not enough for many families these days but one used to be plenty for the family.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Angela Blair— Hello Sis! Fancy meetin' you here. I agree with your Mom. I had ten wonderful aunts and believe me none of them ever needed any group of agitators to 'liberate' them. They ruled the roost and kept everybody in line—even me! :)

Thank you for visiting and for your gracious compliments.

The best to you,

James


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Curiad— You are most welcome, Mark. I surely appreciate your kind comments. I am with you on special interest groups. It seems to me we should want what is good for everybody. And I appreciate your thoughts about 'huge societal problems' and 'a horrible legacy.' Well put, my friend.

Always good to 'see' you,

James


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south

not better off, but that is the same argument that Rep. Franks of Arizona said about blacks being better off as slaves than they are today. So which black movement do we blame for today's results of blacks attaining their freedom? How it started is immaterial, by today's standards women are smarter than men and deserve the same equal rights in the work place and in society that men enjoy.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

cynthtggt— Thank you very much for your extraordinary commentaries. I sincerely appreciate this visit from such a learned lass as yourself. As you requested, I did delete your second comment, though I reserve the right to answer you about it later. :-)

Anywho . . . I agree with you that the New Left has power for the sake of power as its ultimate goal. This is in line with the instructions they got from Karl Marx, as updated by the Frankfort School, Gramsci, Marcuse, et al., into Cultural Marxism, along with an assist from Alinsky. The idea is to bring down America and usher in a worldwide atheistic communist government—Revelation anyone?—and the obstacle is Christian America built on Free Enterprise. This is one piece of that grand strategy.

I am really sorry to read about how demeaned your mother was by your father. My dad might have tried that but after mom knocked his teeth out I think he gave up on that plan.

I agree that there are areas where women needed to progress but I just don't think destroying the country was necessary—and that is the road we are going down. I saw a sad movie yesterday called "Detachment" that shows the social pathologies in full bloom in a high school in NYC.

And yes, around the world women are treated horribly in many places but America was never one of them. In fact, America was the unlikeliest place on earth for women to complain it seems to me. They had the best life of any women on earth throughout all history but the feminists acted like they were locked in a Gulag. Of course, these were damaged women.

I agree with your diagnosis of the true nature of the problem: We must love one another. The problems in America will not be solved by legislation or agitation but by a turning of hearts to what is good, noble, and true.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

liftandsoar— Thank you!! Thank you very much! :D


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jandee 4 years ago from Liverpool.U.K

Ha,ha, nice try James ! Too bad you seem to think that feminists hate all men ! So wrong. I have many male friends who also regard themselves as feminists. I appreciate the dirty and dangerous work that men have done in their lifetime- reading about feminism isn't enough James not unless you understand what you are reading.

regards from jandee


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b. Malin 4 years ago

Wonderful, Wonderful Hub, James on "Feminists". I'm Not one...I've always danced to my own Drum...And have had some Great Men in my Life, actually, I'm married for the 2nd time to a Pretty Wonderful Guy. And I get along with my Ex...we don't Hate each other. I'll try NOT to break into Song...And, I Never need a "Movement" to tell me how to Act, who to Hate, and whom to Love...I do pretty Good on my own!

Looks like your Hub will stir lots of Controversy as well as some Great Comments!


Marcia Ours 4 years ago

Great and informative hub! A lot of truths in this hub!


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

SirDent— Thank you for the kind words, my friend. I hope all is well with you and yours this fine evening.

I appreciate the affirmation and encouragement from you, as well as your offer of assistance. I would hope that if anyone opposes what I wrote they will not attack my person but stick to the facts and rebut my arguments directly with persuasive points of their own.

Good to see you again.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

TexasLadyJuanita— My! Well, I am honored that you would offer such awesome accolades about my article. You have made my day! :D

I am so glad that we are agreeance in regard to these matters. None of us can change the past, and there is no need for regret. What we can do is love other people by talking to them straight concerning what really counts; what really produces lasting happiness in a life. It used to be that there was a problem of people not practicing what they preached. Now that pendulum has swung so far the other way that people are afraid to preach what they practice.

Thank you ever much for your comments. And you are quite welcome.


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Rod Marsden 4 years ago from Wollongong, NSW, Australia

I'll throw in an interesting. Feminism tends to come to the fore either after a horrific war such as World War One or during a war that seems to be stagnating such as the Vietnam War.

After the First World War there was a great push to make up for the years of bloodshed and also to change society so that a huge war couldn't happen again.

During the Vietnam War some accademics put forward the notion that there was something wrong with a society that offers up young men continually as cannon fodder and with women who give birth to sons that will inevitably become cannon fodder.

The Vamps of the 1920s questioned the role of women in society. Before them were the women after the vote.

Feminism as we know it today was a product of the Vietnam War. Right now, looking at Iraq and Afghanistan, I wonder how many petty wars the USA is likely to get her sons and the sons of other nations such as Australia involved in within the first three decades of this new century we are in. Life styles are questioned, religious beliefs come under scrutiny, men as well as women opt for change when the direction society appears to be going in seems to be wrong.

How feminism will eventually work itself out I don't know. As you say total independence from the society we live in is impossible. It has been tried and it doesn't work. Changing our society is possible but I believe this can only work when men and women have mutual goals and know they have mutual goals to work toward.

Meanwhile, confusion and unemployment lead inevitably to social breakdown for which you don't need feminism or any other single factor for it to happen. Blaming men for the wrongs in society is easy. Coming up with ways of fixing society so that it benefits everyone is not so easy.

There have been men forced to walk a lonely road because of feminism and I can't see that changing in a hurry.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

FitnezzJim— Thank you! Thank you very much. :)


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

cynthtggt— I deleted your second comment. I totally agree that the original feminists were nice ladies with worthwhile aims. As so often happens, the movement by high jacked by radicals. The French Revolution was the same way, and the Russian Revolution, and even Germany before Hitler. The Civil Rights Movement, same thing. I mean, it is a long way from MLK marching for a color-blind society to Eldridge Cleaver writing about how appropriate and satisfying it is for black men to rape white women.

Marriage should be viewed as sacred. Life should be valued. Perhaps even virtue ought to make a comeback. And at bottom, the problem is a spiritual problem. Thank you!


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TexasLadyJuanita 4 years ago from Kemah, TX

The pendulum is swinging back - hard to see it at times, but definitely made a turn. Women do not want others teaching their children about relationships, and I believe we will see a change. The Lord made us different for a reason. We are equal with men, but we each have very natural roles that make us feel good. I believe we will see women more concerned about raising their children with good values, than concerned about their careers. The career is nice, but not as satisfying as the family. I am thankful for my children. I have met many women who regretted not having a family early. There is always time to get our degrees and raise a family. There are ways to have satisfying careers without being gone most of the time.


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Phyllis Doyle 4 years ago from High desert of Nevada.

My goodness, James -- articles like this are ong past due and give a strong message to those who have wasted years believing that the "Feminist Movement" was a gift from God to save us women. Yet, save us from what? Being who we were meant to be? I believe the Feminist Movement has destroyed much of what marriage, family and home used to be.

Many things you wrote really popped out at me and brought home the fact that I never was for the feminist movement. I remember how society, mostly women, and even friends of mine, criticized, ridiculed and belittled me for being a "stay at home mom". The saddest day of my young motherhood was when I had to find a job to support my two children.

I was going to highlight and paste some of your statements to discuss them, but, it would take a lot of time and space here to do that. The point is, I agree with most of what you say and admire your ability for stepping up and bringing this subject into the open.

Well done, James, and well-written. Blessings to you and may you always walk in peace and harmony.

Voted ups on this. Thank you!


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Gypsy Rose Lee 4 years ago from Riga, Latvia

Thanks James for another interesting, informative and well written hub. Many well stated facts. Passing this on.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Mazzy Bolero—Thank you for taking the time to read my article. I appreciate your excellent comments, which are thoughtful and insightful. And I look forward to reading more of your writings ASAP.

I agree with you that the feminist movement up to the early 1960s was about being 'treated fairly as human beings.' I think I alluded to that in my third paragraph. At the time, I thought it a good idea for women to be given better employment opportunities, educational opportunities, and things such as credit availability.

It may be that not many women really wanted to destroy men, marriage, and the family. But those who became the new leaders of the feminist movement after the mid-sixties certainly did, for which I have mountains of evidence. Although, I must add that I am not familiar with how things went in the UK. I haven't heard much about that. I do know this for a fact about the U.S.: If you look at social pathologies of virtually any kind, they are worse now than before the feminist movement turned society upside down. And to me that is the key point. If an idea sweeps over society and it makes life better, by which I mean it makes people happier and makes the bonds of social life stronger and reduces societal ills and evils then we ought to proclaim it a success. But if the opposite occurs, we ought to have the guts to label it a failure. You mentioned wife beating, which I hear a lot about when women talk about the old Dark Ages (the 1950s). But I am a seeker of the truth and studies show that spousal abuse is HIGHER now than in the 1950s.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

teaches12345— I am glad you loved the cartoons. I like a bit of levity if I can find it. And I certainly want every person to fulfill their potential.

Thank you for your kind comments. I very much appreciate the 'Voted way up!' :)


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

d.william— I fail to see any way in which I denigrated women in my Hub. Misogyny means "hatred of women." I once had two grandmothers, who I loved more than any other people I have known. I have a mother, and I had ten fabulous aunts; I have five younger sisters and three daughters. I resent you applying that label to me. You will be hard pressed to find any man who loves women more than I do.

I am all for tolerance, in the true definition of the word—not as a slogan of Cultural Marxism, which means, to quote Herbert Marcuse: "Toleration of the ideas of the Left; but intolerance of the ideas of the right."

Diversity? No study ever done has been able to show any positive benefit to "diversity." Once again, that is simply a code word. In fact, recent studies show that the more 'diverse' the neighborhood people live in the more they wished they lived someplace else. The more diverse the neighborhood, the more crime, the less people feel safe , the less people know and help their neighbors—the less people say they are HAPPY.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

rfmoran— Thank you for your kind compliments, and for recognizing the photos and cartoons. Helen Gurley Brown insisted that happiness was to be found in whoredom. But of course, that is not true. And just who IS the Deceiver of mankind?

I sincerely appreciate the "Voted up and awesome and interesting."

James :D


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

SirDent— Thank you for that rejoinder. It is calm, courteous, and common sensical. Well said!!


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

d.william— I hadn't heard of this Rep. Franks before and so I just now went to read what he said. He said that half of all black babies are killed in their mother's wombs today and that being dead is worse than being a slave.

You asked, "So which black movement do we blame for today's results of blacks attaining their freedom?"

Well, none. The abolition movement was virtually all White Christians. It was not a black movement but a white movement on behalf of blacks.

Women are smarter than men? Who mapped the world and the heavens? Women?

Who invented air conditioning, airplanes, anesthesia, aspirin, ATMs, automobiles, adhesive bandages, bar codes, barbed wire, batteries, bicycles, blood banks, calculators, cameras, motion picture cameras, cans, cardboard, cement, clocks, compact discs, CAT scans, computers, concrete, contact lens, credit cards, defibrillators, dentures, metal detectors, smoke detectors, dishwashers, drinking fountains, dry cleaners, dynamite, electrocardiograms, e-mail, elevators, engines, escalators, eyeglasses, fax machines, fiber optics, fiberglass, film, flashlights, frozen foods, GPS, guitars, helicopters, hypodermic syringes, insulin, the internet, lasers, lawnmowers, light bulbs, LCDs, locomotives, loudspeakers, MRIs, matches, microchips, microphones, microscopes, microwave ovens, mirrors, missiles, motors, motorcycles, neon lights, nuclear reactors, nylons, oil wells, pacemakers, paperclips, paper towels, parachutes, particle accelerators, pasteurizers, pens, pencils, penicillin, cell phones, phonographs, photographs, printing presses, radar, radios, razors, refrigerators, respirators, revolvers, rifles, robots, roller coasters, rubber bands, safety pins, satellites, seat belts, sewing machines, shoe laces, silicone, slot machines, snowmobiles, soft drinks, sonar, postage stamps, spaceships, staplers, steel, stethoscopes, stoves, straws, submarines, sunglasses, sunscreen, supermarkets, synthesizers, tampons, army tanks, teabags, Teflon, telegraphs, telephones, cell phones, telescopes, televisions, thermometers, thermostats, tires, toilet tissue, toasters, toilets, tractors, traffic lights, transistors, typewriters, ultrasound, vaccinations, vacuum cleaners, Velcro, Viagra, video games, videotape, virtual reality, vitamins, washing machines, X-rays, and zippers?

Women?


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Jandee— Thank you! Of course ALL feminists did not hate men. But the majority of the radical feminists who took control of the feminist movement around 1970 certainly did.

I appreciate the visit and your comments.

God Bless You!

james :-)


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

b. Malin— Thank you so much for the lovely laudations! Like you, I have always danced to my own drum, too. In fact, I went so far with the idea as to become a drummer!

I am happy for you that you love men and in particular that you have found lasting love with . . . what do you call him? Lover man?

If the mood strikes you, go ahead and sing! :-)

I appreciate the visit and your excellent remarks.


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Marcia Ours— Thank you!! Thank you very much! :D


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kashmir56 4 years ago from Massachusetts

Hi James, great hub and very interesting and informative which made it a great read. Another masterpiece from your pen !

Vote up and more !!! SHARING !


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

"And yes, around the world women are treated horribly in many places but America was never one of them." James? You can't be serious. A man as intelligent as you can't possibly not know better. I have so much respect for you, I'm sure you will amend this misstatement.

Equal pay for equal work.

The opportunity to become anything she works hard enough to become.

The right not to be abused.

What is wrong with any of that?

I think you've confused your issues here.

Women being treated more fairly, having the resources to escape abuse, and having more opportunities. That is the good side of feminism.

Women entering the workplace has had a impact on raising children, the divorce rate, and the inflated cost of everything. That is the down side. No issue is 100% good or 100% bad.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Rod Marsden— Wow! I love the way your wheels turn. You surely think out-of-the-box. I had never thought of this but it appears there is something to your theory. In fact, now that I think about it, the women's suffrage movement came after the Civil War. That is fascinating.

I think the U.S. should completely disengage from the world militarily. I think we should close all of our overseas bases, cut the defense budget in half, bring all the boys home, and let the world fend for itself. We should only defend our own land and that's it. We can't afford to try and protect people around the world anymore, or give tens of billions in foreign aid—particularly when people we help seem to hate us, which is completely different from the way we were viewed after we intervened in WW1 and WW2.

Wars do bring religious beliefs under scrutiny. I have read much about that, mostly about Europe and specifically in regard to why so-called Jews no longer believe in Judaism, which to me would make them not Jews anymore. I mean, I don't think you can be a atheist Christian or an atheist Muslim, how can you be an atheist Jew? Yet most of them are after WW2.

Thank you very much for your extraordinary comments. It is always a pleasure to see your mind engaged. Great stuff, Rod!

James


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

TexasLadyJuanita—I surely hope you are right about that pendulum swinging back. With so many of these 'movements', such as unionization even, for instance, there was a need in the beginning to change but then the whole thing was taken too far, sometimes much too far.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that the Lord made men and women different for a reason, to complement each other. Only together, can a man and woman make an entire human organism. Yes, men and women are equal beings but that does not mean they are the same, or should be. Women are the softness in the world. Lord knows this world needs that warm nurturing more than it needs nearly anything else. Why any woman would ever have wanted to be like a man is beyond me.

Thank you for coming back by. Your comments are wonderfully made and well appreciated.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Phyllis Doyle— You are quite welcome, my dear friend. Thank you for the lovely laudations, your blessings and warm wishes, and the voted ups. :-)

The feminist movement was far from a "gift from God" in fact if you read feminist literature after the 1970s it is full of anti-Christ declarations. You know, men invented God to oppress women and all that demonic rot. It is a rebellion against God at its core. The greatest gift God gave man is the ability to reproduce himself, to procreate, to make new life. To flush that down the toilet as a nuisance is surely an abomination to God of the utmost magnitude.

When Moms were at home maybe they couldn't be coal miners too but THE CHILDREN were so much better off it is ridiculous to compare. And after all, the big break of the feminist movement is the break from "life is about the service to others; about nurturing the next generation; about the debt I owe to my ancestors and my descendents" to "Life is about Me! It's about me having fun and pleasuring myself. The government should support me and even provide my birth control and babysitters. To hell with everybody else, including my children. If they don't like it I'll just flush them down the toilet!"

It is always great to hear from you. I appreciate your excellent comments.


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Highland Terrier 4 years ago from Dublin, Ireland

This makes for very sad reading; its 2012 and its breaks my heart that such an archaric, narrow and limited attitude still exist today.


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lone77star 4 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Powerful stuff, James.

You might be interested to know that the late Aaron Russo, in his last interview (2007), told of an even more sinister side of the Women's Lib movement. He'd had a short-lived friendship with Nick Rockefeller. Rockefeller told him not only about 9/11, eleven months before it happened, but that the Women's Lib movement was a pet project of the Rockefellers to achieve two key goals:

(1) Double the tax payers to increase the funds paid into their private Federal Reserve bank.

(2) Destroy the family. With both parents working, kids will have to depend more and more on the State for their moral guidance, leaving them open for more indoctrination toward the New World Order.

With Women's Lib, the Rockefellers and their ilk are achieving a number of other goals, too. Population reduction through promiscuity (and thus birth control to keep pregnancy rates down), as well as abortions. Increase in sinful lifestyles, destroying moral integrity and making people more malleable (controllable).

Many of us were suckered into going along with Women's Lib, because it seemed to be a movement for greater respect for women. But, like a colorful feast laced with poison, the results were far from ideal.


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Mazzy Bolero 4 years ago from the U.K.

Women worked before feminism, you seem to forget that. My mother always had to work because the money was needed, not because she got career satisfaction out of it. Before her, my grandmother worked in a textile mill from the age of 13 and my great-grandmother scrubbed floors and took in washing. They had no chance of doing anything better. You might like that situation but I naturally can't agree.

However, I got plenty of moral guidance, lone77star, as did the millions of Americans whose mothers needed to work to put food on the table. The decline in moral values in recent years, which I deplore, has nothing to do with women going out to work.

As for promiscuity, it's not in women's interests on the whole. In the old days men had to make some emotional commitment before sleeping with a woman, now many expect the woman to sleep with them after just a few dates or they dump her. Whose lib is that again? It seems like testosterone lib to me, not women's lib - and it does not foster strong or lasting bonds between partners.

Maybe some of you guys should join the extreme Islamic faith and then you could make women know their place:) Oh, but then what would you blame for all society's ills?


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Gypsy Rose Lee— You are welcome, my friend. Thank you for the kind compliments. I very much appreciate you passing this on to your friends. :)


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

kashmir56— Hello there, friend. Thank you very much for sharing this article in your sphere of influence. That is high praise indeed and I am honored that you hold this Hub in such esteem. I appreciate the vote up and more!! And your gracious compliments.

James


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Kathleen Cochran— I will amend what I said. My commenter mentioned women living under Islam, most of whom cannot go out in public, drive a car, vote, or even go to school. Many are forced to wear a head-to-toe garment or be beaten, some are killed for being raped. And she mentioned mutilation of genitals, not that uncommon in Africa.

It was in that context that I said, "And yes, around the world women are treated horribly in many places but America was never one of them. In fact, America was the unlikeliest place on earth for women to complain it seems to me. They had the best life of any women on earth throughout all history but the feminists acted like they were locked in a Gulag."

I guess it depends on one's definition of being 'treated horribly.' I would consider the way women live in most parts of the world today as far worse than women in America have ever endured.

Of course, I think women should become whatever they want to become. I have three daughters and five sisters. I do not think standards should be lowered for them (or for anyone else), which they are.

Of course, I never want to see any person abused. But domestic violence is higher now than in the 1950s in America so the feminist movement can claim no victory there. And men are far more likely to be victims of violence than women but from feminist rhetoric, which commands the public spaces, you would never know it.

We have equal pay for equal work now. What some agitators want is for all people to make the same paycheck—communism.

As I said in my article: "Childless women make 98 percent as much as childless men and that gap is more than explicated by the fact that dangerous jobs pay more and 92 percent of workplace deaths and injuries are suffered by men.

The so-called “gender wage gap” is based on deception. It is true that the average American woman makes 75 percent of the yearly wage of the average American man. But the average woman spends 10 years out of the workforce altogether, caring for their young, while the men must keep working, and while they do they continue to learn, and get promotions and raises. By the age of 40, the average man has ten years more work experience than a woman.

Far more women than men say that having flexible hours is more important to them than wages. The average man works 7 percent more hours per week.

If women truly did the same work as men for 75 percent of the money, some smart company would hire all women and put the competition out of business.

Besides all that, I want to thank you for checking out my Hub and leaving excellent and courteous comments. I appreciate your gracious compliments as well. I mean no offense, to you or anyone else.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Highland Terrier— Thank you for reading my article. I appreciate your comments. And I actually have a (West) Highland Terrier! :-)

What I want is for the truth to be told. And I want people to be happy. Some things are dressed up to fool people into thinking they will bring happiness. But they don't. As far as archaic goes, the Truth never changes, never gets old. It is eternal.


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Mazzy Bolero 4 years ago from the U.K.

Thanks for replying in such detail, James. I still feel that feminism is being scapegoated here. Much spousal abuse was not even reported in earlier times, was even regarded as normal, and the woman had no recourse. We hear of it more now precisely because it is no longer regarded as acceptable.

I think it is better for a woman to be able to commit to marriage out of love and free choice, not out of financial necessity as was often the case in earlier times.

Many young women and girls now seem to value themselves purely as sex objects. Recently a Canadian 12 yr old committed suicide after being pressured to send revealing photos of herself to a boy, who then circulated them - the article I read said many girls that age seem to believe that their own value lies purely in their sexual attractiveness to males. I would think they need more feminism, not less. They need to know they have value as themselves, they matter, they count.

People see the past through rose-tinted lenses sometimes. Life wasn't always like "Leave it to Beaver".


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Highland Terrier 4 years ago from Dublin, Ireland

Of course, I never want to see any person abused. But domestic violence is higher now than in the 1950s in America so the feminist movement can claim no victory there. And men are far more likely to be victims of violence than women but from feminist rhetoric, which commands the public spaces, you would never know it.

This is misleading.

It is a known fact worldwide that young men are more likely to suffer violence.

But not from women, from other men.

To put it in the same paragraph as domestic violence is to imply that men are suffering the greater domestic violence at the hands of women.

Which is just not true.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

lone77star— I am familiar with Mr. Russo but I did not know the information you revealed here to me.

There is no doubt that the Feminist Movement wanted to destroy marriage and what it called the "patriarchal family"; and it wanted the government to raise the children or pay to kill them. I could provide 100 quotes on that from prominent feminists, which I have stored on my computer here in case someone scoffs about it.

And there is no doubt what other major group besides feminists that has as part of its official platform the destruction of marriage and the family, and the raising of children by the State—Communists. Marx and Lenin both preached such ideas openly. The destruction of marriage and the family unit is desired because a family claims sovereignty above the State and is thus viewed by Marxists as a competitor for State power, which to achieve their aims must be absolute—the people must DEPEND on the State for the survival. And the reason they want the State to raise children, not mothers and fathers, is so the State can indoctrinate them from their earliest years.

And you also made a great point about how such groups promote moral degeneracy because an immoral people are far more malleable.

"like a colorful feast laced with poison"

Awesome line, man.

Thank you very much for visiting. I appreciate your extraordinary comments.

James


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

There is a very interesting book called "Committed" by the author who wrote "Eat, Pray, Love" that is a look at marriage through the ages and its resilience inspite of countless efforts to destroy it. It will calm some of your fears that the institution is in danger of being obliterated.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Mazzy Bolero— Thank you for coming back with your most excellent additional comments. I appreciate that you have engaged on this topic, which I feel is an important one. The ramifications of this movement have permeated all of society over here in America.

You wrote: " The decline in moral values in recent years, which I deplore, has nothing to do with women going out to work."

Boy, I don't know about that. There are many factors involved, decline in going to church and less belief in God and the idea that God expects something out of us going out of style, for examples.

I have read studies that show adultery and fornication rates did rise dramatically after women entered the workforce in large numbers, after men and women began to work together every day versus when they didn't. I mean, who was a housewife going to have an affair with back in the day? And what women was her husband going to be around during his time at work?

Understanding human nature as we do, if a company has all men or all women in its workforce, not much is going to happen there as far as flirting and all. But if young attractive men and women work together for a long time, they get to know one another, perhaps a bit of light flirting goes on but nothing more until one of them has a fight with the wife or husband, or they haven't been having sex much lately, whatever. They go to an office party, have a few drinks, and end up committing adultery. I used to own a company with 150 employees and believe me the intercompany hook up is a reality, and people leaving their spouses for a co-worker happens a lot—couples that never would have met had women not entered the workforce by the millions.

You made a very good point that promiscuity is not in a woman's best interests. As you put it so succinctly, "In the old days men had to make some emotional commitment before sleeping with a woman, now many expect the woman to sleep with them after just a few dates or they dump her. Whose lib is that again? It seems like testosterone lib to me, not women's lib - and it does not foster strong or lasting bonds between partners."

I most certainly do not blame women for "all of society's ills" as you imply. I have no desire to "make anybody know their place." And if my article reminds you of the Taliban, then you are completely prejudiced against rational discourse. I am saying that women were sold a bill of goods that they were promised would make them happy and they are less happy and it has nearly ruined society to boot, particularly the youngest generations coming up now. The spirit behind this movement was a dark and evil one. The proof is in the pudding.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Mazzy Bolero— You are quite welcome. Thank you for your gracious courtesy. I understand that it looks like feminism is being scapegoated here. It is surely not the only reason why American society has gotten so sick that it is starting to look terminal. But it is the only reason I wrote about in this particular article. I have plenty of others about public schools; multiculturalism; race relations; the denial of the free exercise of religion; labor unionism, especially in the public sector; illegal immigration; etc etc etc.

You rightfully made the keen observation that "Many young women and girls now seem to value themselves purely as sex objects."

I see this as coming right out of feminism. The irony is, that feminists thought their ideas would end the objectification of women. They actually thought that husbands objectified their wives, fathers their daughters, and sons their mothers—which was just not so. Men had for centuries given their very lives to protect their women, their children, their homes, their villages, their countries. When they realized that the new paradigm meant their children could be killed and they had nothing to say about it; and when that actually happened tens of millions of times; and that women now viewed them as nothing more than oppressors, at best only good for sperm banks and child support checks; the men regrouped and most of them just do not cherish any particular woman anymore. Compare medieval poetry with modern hit rap songs, "Get over here you Ho and blow me!" and I think you'll start to get the drift.

I know life wasn't all like "Leave it to Beaver." But a whole lot more of life was like it then than it is now. And the fact that art represented that life to millions of people including children, gave everyone a high ideal to shoot for that many reached. The Kardashians and films full to the brim with filthy language and nasty behavior is what we get today. And culture is how values are transmitted to the young.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Highland Terrier— Actually, Domestic Violence statistics show that men and women are victims and perpetrators each half the time. But the men go to jail 99% of the time, of course. I actually wrote a Hub about this:

http://hubpages.com/relationships/Family-Law

Thank you very much for your excellent comments. I appreciate your contributions to this discussion.

James


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Mazzy Bolero 4 years ago from the U.K.

Thanks for your reply, James, but are you serious? "Women now viewed men as nothing more than oppressors"! I haven't noticed many women regarding men in this way - is that just in Michigan?:).

Your pronouncements that women only see men as sperm banks and good for support checks does have a slight air of misogyny! I used to teach young single mothers who were desperate to get a decent job in order to give their kids a better life. The fathers had mainly ridden off into the sunset, leaving no support checks. These girls were not using them as "sperm banks" - on the contrary, they had swallowed the fairy tale. They were anything but feminists. The idea that single mothers are all high-flying man-haters who use men and cast them aside is bizarre. I cannot recall meeting even one woman who fit that description.

In the 70s I don't remember feminism being about destroying marriage, the family, nor having children raised by the state! It was about fighting to be treated as a human being and not as some inferior sub-species.

My two closest female friends have both been happily married for over 30 years and have grown-up children. Both of my friends have careers. Both have very strong families with loving husbands and great kids. The mere fact that they worked outside the home did not result in the destruction of the family and/or of society. We have to look a little bit more deeply to understand what is going wrong in our society.

P.S. Where did you get those statistics re domestic violence? I can't find them.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Kathleen Cochran— Thank you very much for those book references. I just now read quite a few reviews of both of them. Interesting stuff! I appreciate you engaging me on this topic with your usual ladylike grace.

God Bless!

James


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

Mazzy Bolero— Thank you for your thoughtful, insightful, and gracious reply. And you are welcome.

I should clarify my remarks that, no, all women, of course, did not view men as oppressors. I mean, my mother, grandmothers, aunts, and sisters certainly didn't. I am talking about the "movement" of feminists, which was highjacked by radicals who were far different from the original feminists.

Here is a link that quotes the American government's "Center for Disease Control" as finding women commit half of all domestic violence, and in fact 70% of all non-reciprocal violence in the home:

http://eworldwire.com/pressreleases/17670

As far as the leaders of the feminist movement go, Betty Friedan viewed her father as the enemy as she grew up, taking her unhappy mother's side in endless disputes about the family finances. At college she became a radical communist revolutionary. Friedan believed that the suburban home was a "comfortable concentration camp" and housewives were "parasites." She put forth the idea that the family social unit itself repressed the individual freedom and rights of women. Friedan was of the view that since women carried babies in their bodies during gestation, they would never have equal rights with men unless only they had any say in the aborting of their offspring.

Gloria Steinem was a commie, too, who worked for labor unions before she joined the feminist cause. Her goal was to bring down what she saw as a patriarchic conspiracy to deny women equality in the world. Steinem lobbied vigorously for the government to provide free child care for children of all ages so that women would not be burdened by nurturing their children. Better to turn that job over to strangers (so women can join the workforce).

The radical feminists despised the Christian Faith, believing rightly that it is at the core of Western Civilization; but believing wrongly that it is merely a construction of white men to make women second class citizens (no women priests, etc.). Along with this, feminists opposed Christian hospitals, which they saw as an impediment to their goal of widespread baby killing (in the womb).

Simone de Beauvoir said: "No woman should be authorized to stay at home and raise her children. Society should be totally different. Women should not have that choice, precisely because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one."

Radical Feminists pushed an alternative, false reality into the collective consciousness of a large portion of female Americans, in which marriage equals a trap of rape and slavery. The famous feminist Catherine MacKinnon wrote: "Love and romance looks a lot like hatred and torture to the feminist. Feminism stresses the indistinguishability of prostitution, marriage, and sexual harassment."

"We have to abolish . . . the institution of marriage . . . by the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise children to believe in human potential, not God." Gloria Steinem, 1973.

"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." Robin Morgan.

"Like prostitution, marriage is an institution that is extremely oppressive and dangerous for women." Andrea Dworkin.


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A r F 4 years ago

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I am all for equality, but most feminists go too far. Feminists tell women to try to earn equality by being like men, when in reality they should earn equality by being like women and playing to their strengths. This should not be a battle, it should be everyone putting their best foot forward.


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James A Watkins 4 years ago from Chicago Author

A r F— And ARF to you!

Welcome to the HubPages Community. Your profile page looks intereresting. I look forward to reading many of your writings.

I love your comments! Well said. I totally agree with you that it "should not be a battle" between us and that women "should earn equality by being like women and playing to their stengths."

Brilliant!

Thank you for visiting my Hub.

James :-)


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Darkproxy 4 years ago from Ohio

Wow you have perfectly balanced humor and logical addressing of social issues today


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jandee 4 years ago from Liverpool.U.K

Why the past-tense James ?


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James A Watkins 3 years ago from Chicago Author

Darkproxy— Thank you!! Thank you very much! :D


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James A Watkins 3 years ago from Chicago Author

jandee— Thank you!! Thank you very much! :-)


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Darkproxy 3 years ago from Ohio

your welcome I ussually have no luaghs when reading these but this was a much needed work


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James A Watkins 3 years ago from Chicago Author

Darkproxy--- At least the cartoons and pictures are funny. I enjoy a bit of levity now and again. Thank you for noticing. :-)

james


PAUL BAKER UK 3 years ago

THERE IS ALWAYS SOME ROSE TINTED GOLDEN AGE WHICH NEVER REARLY EXISTED WITH GOD SQUADDERS OVER MARRIAGE IT DOE'S NOT MAKE A BAD RELATIONSHIP GOOD.


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James A Watkins 3 years ago from Chicago Author

PAUL BAKER UK--- Thank you! Thank you very much. :)


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vocalcoach 3 years ago from Nashville Tn.

Dear James - Every time I read your hubs I tell myself " this hub is so great - he can't possibly top this." Then, you do! This is one of your best. Very very well written and an appealing piece of workmanship. And I love the pictures and cartoons. Thank you for a distinctive read. Hugs.

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