The Gay/Straight Group On HubPages!

I’d like to say that I’m shocked but the thing about it is that I’m not shocked at all. I have been writing on HubPages for years (yes, years) now and what always amazes me are the hubs that people feel the need to comment on and the ones they don’t. I’m simply fascinated by the whole thing. And while I’d like to say that I have a theory on what makes people comment on things and what doesn’t, the truth is that I have no clue. What I do know is that a lot of people like to read their own press that they create for themselves (whether it’s a hub they’ve written or a comment that someone comments on that they feel they need to continually comment on until the proverbial dead horse has been beaten more than to death but into its next life or something). Hell, I’m one of them. There are a few hubs that I’ve written that I like A LOT. And what’s more, I adore the comments (both bad and good) that come along with them so when I re-read the hub I always read the comments too. Recently I read (and commented on) a hub by Brimancandy “More Straight People Support The Gay Community Than We Think” and I was astonished at the gazillions of comments that were left. Even the negative ones that tout the same tired argument that us gays have an “agenda” and we’re “destroying family values” and that we’ve “caused earthquakes” and “birds to fall dead out of the sky” got me to thinking. Whether or not the defenders of everything NOT gay know it or not, in their own way they have become a member of a club they had no idea they were joining by leaving their comments. It’s what I’m going to call the Gay/Straight Group on HubPages!

I have found great support from people who are gay and those who are not who have read my hubs. I’ve enjoyed reading hubs by people who are gay and straight. I try to do my best to comment because I know how exciting it is to get that email telling you someone has commented on your hub.

When I write I tend to do it in a much more flamboyant voice than my own and sometimes I make the argument for something or bring up a topic just to rile people up a bit. But what Brimancandy was saying in his hub was just a simple comment based on his own experience. He went to gay pride, he rode a float and was struck by the great feeling it gave him to see so many straight supporters there. And as I scrolled down to see familiar defenders of us gays here on HubPages leaving comments I saw just as many Hubbers that I didn’t recognize. I didn’t see anything new or particularly interesting to tell you the truth but I’m a firm believer that I would rather have someone tell me they hate me to my face instead of just making limp wristed jokes behind my back. And that’s exactly what the Hubbers who are disgusted by us gays and our supposed “choice” voice in their comments. And in a way, good for them because we can’t play the game if we don’t know who the players are, right?

I don’t think anyone can really change anyone’s mind when it comes to religion, politics or us gays by posting on HubPages (or knocking door to door with pamphlets) but if it makes you all feel better to post it then have at it! What you may not realize is that some may see your comments as (dare I say it) archaic or just plain stupid. Still, when you hit that “enter” button you become a part of a specific group that feels the need to comment on what I’m renaming the “The Homosexuality Hubs” – quick someone do a staged reading somewhere of the Hubs with gay content and then have people voice in the comments!!! Great idea, right? God, I’m good! (Oh, I just mentioned God, that’s bound to get a few comments!!) So to those who support and those who report that we’re going to hell I’d like to say, “Welcome to the Group.” You may not know it but you are officially part of the Gay/Straight Group on HubPages!

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sligobay 5 years ago from east of the equator

Scott, you sure know how to stir the pot. You must be a great cook to mix, blend and season the recipe. I enjoyed the read and will follow the comments with interest. "To thine own self, be true." This is where happiness and contentment are conjured and concocted.


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Earth Angel 5 years ago

Good Morning Mr. Gay-Jack from your biggest fan Ms. Straight-Jill!

Good to read/see you here!

Yep, I am always shocked by any of the anti-this or anti-that comments people are willing to post and put their names on(or behind!)

In a world where we are trying to clean up the messes, a little more compassion, love, understanding, civil dialog, humor, fresh ideas and tolerance would go a looooooong way toward the solutions!

Happy 4th to you both! Blessings always, Earth Angel!


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somelikeitscott 5 years ago from Las Vegas Author

sligobay - indeed about the "to thine own self" business my thing is why do people try to convince me that their self is supposed to be mine too and is true for me? And yes, bring the comments on...I love 'em!!!

EA - of course you're right. Was reading this really fast and thought you wrote "civil drag" not sure what that would mean but I'm pretty sure it involves some heels and some makeup!!! Love ya right back!


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Daffy Duck 5 years ago from Cornelius, Oregon

Good hub man!

One interesting thing is that there are a lot of people who oppose gay marriage because of the term marriage being linked with gays. A lot of those same people don't actually oppose gay unions with all of the benefits that all straight married couples have.

It may not be right, but it helps to know exactly what people oppose.

THX.

Straight but Daffy Duck.


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Paradise7 5 years ago from Upstate New York

I believe you do have a lot of straight supporters for the gay rights movement. The bill to legalize gay marriages in New York State passed by a LANDSLIDE! That was so nice.

I'm straight, a straight woman, no less, and I enjoy the company of my gay male friends, a lot. I get hints of a male perspective without them feeling like they have to prove how macho they are to me, and it's very refreshing.


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feenix 5 years ago

somelikeitscott,

When it comes to GLBT issues, I do not have a good reputation among many on HubPages because, for one thing, I am vehemently opposed to same-sex marriage. In addition, I have written some hubs that are definitely "anti-gay".

That said, I am a mature, streetwise man of the world. And because I have been living in this realm for more than 60 years, I have forgotten more than a whole lot of people know.

What I am driving at is, my views on political, social and religious issues does not ever interfere with who I choose to be friends and lovers.

When it comes to you, I really do like the name you use here (somelikeitscott -- that's pure genious)and ever since I first made your acquaintance, I have liked you as a person.

In fact, I think you are very cool. I like your style and I can tell by the way you write that you are a real class act.

So, Scott, if you hate me for my "politics" I certainly do understand that. But please keep in mind that I am a mere human being which translates to I am very flawed.

Anyway, I really did enjoy reading your hub. You write in a way that holds my attention.


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Earth Angel 5 years ago

Dearest Feenix,

Happy 4th in Celebration of Independence and Interdependence!

Ms. Earth-Jill-Angel here! Considering some of your other Hubs and Comments, that is a very nice, diplomatic, considerate comment above! Thank you!

May we all extend the same courtesy and understanding to those we don't agree with, but honor as divine human beings!

Blessings always, Earth Angel! (A fiery Ms. Jill!)


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somelikeitscott 5 years ago from Las Vegas Author

Wow - these comments are far too civil than what I'm used to, no one telling me I'm going to hell or telling me Jesus died for my sins. Maybe there really is still room in the world for civil discourse!

Daffy - I think you're absolutely right that the word, "marriage" is what gets a lot of people. As I've said before, I don't want the shoes and rice, just the rights please!

Paradise7 - I'm with you too. There are many straights who understand the importance of all men (and women) being equal in the eyes of the law and I feel certain that number will only grow.

feenix - I'm not a "hater" on the whole and I have to say that you've been more than generous with me in our interactions. I am all about people having differences of opinion, sometimes it's the only way to learn that it'd be a dull world if we all thought and did the same things. Thanks for your "diplomatic, considerate comment above" as my one and only Earth Angel stated...she is always floating above me, hovering, making sure I'm protected and for that EA, you KNOW I'm eternally grateful!


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feenix 5 years ago

Earth Angel,

I am so glad you responded to my comment. Just as I really do like Scott, I really do like you.

I do get carried away when it comes to discussing my views, but I can't help it. I'm a hot-headed, cocky Aries ;-)

And I wish you a very Happy Fourth of July.


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feenix 5 years ago

Scott,

I am going to make this really quick because I want to go out and buy myself pint of Hagen Daz Rum Raisin.

Thank you for your very gracious response to my comment and I am really happy that things between us stand where they stand (I think that makes sense).

Have a very Happy Independence Day and if I can ever assist you in some way, just let me know. I won't mind standing up to those who try to "condemn" you.


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brimancandy 5 years ago from Northern Michigan

Gee. I guess I should comment on this hub since I kind of inspired you to write it. I knew that when I post the straights and gays comment in the forums, that I was going to get a huge backlash of of people who would start hurling their bible verses at me. And, like you said, I think those comments are a good thing.

The hubpages forums on gay issues, and gay hubs, opens a Pandora's box of both love and hate for the gay community, unfortunately there is more hate than love, and the hate comments receive more attention than the ones showing support. But, the conversations that get started are certainly interesting, and all the hatred mentioned shows how much we have to deal with as gay people on a daily basis, that the straight community never has to experience. Just like we can learn to accept ourselves, eventually, all this conversation will lead to acceptance from everyone. So, I am glad to be a part of your gay/straight group.

As for Youtube, there are dozens of videos from the 2011 Chicago gay pride. You will even find that straight people who attended the event have videos. And, some that I have talked to claim that it was the most fun they ever had. 750,000 people in attendance was the estimated total of visitors just for the parade. That doesn't include the daily gay pride events which could end up in the millions. As there were also big events on Friday and Saturday including a Tiffany concert.


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johnnyslaughter 5 years ago from New Jersey

I know what you mean. My twin brother is straight and has no problem hanging out with and accepting me and my boyfriend

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