War of The Sexes Verdict: Women Are Better Than Men

Settle down boys

I feel I owe it to my favorite men out there to explain this a little more. After all, it's not easy getting this blow to the ego. To make it sting a little more (I hate to do this guys) the verdict was well-researched and decided by a man. Ouch! The fact that a man has come to this conclusion may be more credible than if a woman had- so hear me out guys.

A book was recently released titled, "Man Down: Proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt That Women Are Better Cops, Drivers, Gamblers, Spies, World Leaders, Beer Tasters, Hedge Fund Managers, and Just About Everything Else" by Dan Abrams, Legal Analyst for NBC/NSMBC. In his book, he presents evidence, polls, and studies proving the female sex superior to men in areas across the board, especially typical male areas. The author states, "This is not an effort to beat up on us guys but it may serve as a wake up call for some." Are you awake guys?

Good news for women?

I'm a strong, confident woman (not a feminist- there's my disclaimer for you guys who think this is a one-sided argument), and I was surprised to see this book and the findings. Some may think this is exactly what a woman would want, but you're wrong. This verdict is a nightmare for women. Hear me out on this women who are ferociously clapping and cheering.

A man now has a completely valid argument for expecting wifey to cook, do the dishes, fix the car, build the house, and mow the lawn. I can hear him saying, "Dear, if you're better at everything than me, you go ahead and do it." If women are better at everything, men will have secured a spot on the couch or golf course for the rest of our existance.

This may surprise you...

Based on studies, the book compiled and concluded women are better:

  • gamblers and competitors; women are able to size up their opponents better than men and able to read people better as well.
  • better cops; able to diffuse a bad situation quicker and smoother.
  • better dealing with romantic break-ups; women have a circle of friends they rely on to overcome tough times. We enjoy movies that make us laugh or cry it out over broken romance, we eat, we shop, we're over it. Men think they can do it on their own and just mask or hide their emotions even though they linger and fester within them often leading to substance abuse.
  • better with a hammer; an actual study in a lab found that women are more deliberate with a hammer while men just want to get that sucker nailed.
  • better drivers; men have more traffic infractions, therefore have higher insurance. They are more reckless- they could be better drivers, but we wouldn't know because they are too busy doing foolish things behind the wheel.
  • better world leaders; throughout recent history (the 70's+), women leaders have had more success with getting bills passed. They also see through with their plans more thoroughly.
  • better spies; if you know something about history some of the best spies were the women because nobody suspected them. Hey, it's no coincidence that Jame Bond is always fooled by a female spy.
  • women are less corrupt; women in politics, for example, are less corrupt. Many countries with corrupt systems, such as law force are actively hiring women purposefully. We've had our fun with the first black president, now how about a woman?
  • vote more; something to consider when targeting an audience of potential voters.

The not so surprising:

  • tolerate pain better; you try getting waxed and having a baby.
  • nurturing
  • live longer/healthier
  • better looking
  • smarter; like how I put that in the "not surprising" category.
  • better memories; if I had a nickle for every time I had to remind a man of something.

Will it stop mad feminists?

I've taken a few blows from a feminist or two in my time while some of the topics I've written have some hubbers and commenters thinking I'm a feminist, but truth be told feminists may have an extra edge here on some points made in this book.For instance, if women are better professionals, less corrupt, better at managing money, smarter, etc, why are we paid less than men and where is a woman sitting in the president's chair?

Men and women complain the government has become corrupt, well put a woman in the White House. We make fun of women who run, but we do it because we just don't like them. Everybody "liked" Obama and we see where it became a popularity contest. How about the best person for the job? Dan Abrams book is a wonderful resume for a woman.

It's a man's world

Abrams, the author, and even a truckload of women still maintain the notion that it's clearly a man's world. Men dominate the leadership positions in our world and they will always be physically stronger, therefore ultimately dominant. I'm sure many can agree there are advantages for both sexes and the relationship between us should be complimentary not a competition. 

 

Where do you weigh in?

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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Interesting hub. I guess to prove all these points we would need to set up an island populated only by females. My guess is based on women being better at everything, it would either be highly successful, or self destruct in a short time. Without a check and balance system for thought processing I can see where there may be some problems.

Interesting read.


marellen 5 years ago

Wow izettl, I can't wait for the comments on this hub. I think women can multi task better than men and tolerate pain better too. I still want a man that can use a hammer better then me....RU out there? lol


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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

U don't know if women are better than men in all the situations that Abrams mentioned but I do know that women appear to be better at reading the body language and non-verbal cues of others which is why they are superior at gambling (except for slots) and as police interrogators.

Thanks for this interesting read, Laura.


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, There are issues that you left out. Women are better at;

1- Committing suicide.

2- Having more psychological problems.

3- Having less self esteem.

4- Changing ghemselves to be more like what "their" man wants.

5- I'll stop there. H


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Old Poolman~ this was interesting news to me. Of course I know the author gathered his info from studies, but even studies can be gathered to look a certain way. It's on the humorous side, but intriguing as to why women are supposedly better at some typical male things. I'm still thinking about them being better with a hammer- I never would have thought that. And then I wonder, couldn't we have used the money for something better to study? Thanks for stopping by.

marellen~ this should be interesting in the comment section. I'm married but still looking for a guy who's good with a hammer- lol. Thanks for the comment.

drbj~ I could see women having the upperhand sitting at a poker table. THanks for commenting.

Harvey~ leave it to you... Women are better at the good and the bad I guess. THanks for pointing that out, ever so subtly. You got your laugh buddy. Women changing themselves to be more like what their mate wants- both sexes do that. When first dating men, they are walking talking resumes- "I did this" "I did that" "I have this". Actually they don't change themselves, they just lie about who they are. I'll stop there...


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Laura, this really is humorous. The comments should get very interesting. I really do like females, just would not want to be one, and I am pretty darn good with a hammer.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Poolman~ the author and even women who've interviewed him all agree that it's still a man's world. I have to agree with that too. But behind every great man is a woman and behind every fallen man is also a woman so let's keep that in mind -lol.


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Laura you nailed it with that one. Lol


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sabu singh 5 years ago

Another winner, Izettl. I would agree with most things in this Hub, the only thing being that it took 30 years of marriage to figure it out. One other thing is women have a far better intuitive sense. Thank you for this wonderful Hub.


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, But most of all, in the end most women want to change the man. The man wants to keep the lady he fell in love with. H


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, So what do you think is behind a successful or fallen woman? H


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

(laughing and can't catch my breath) I'm just laughing because the guy who figured this all out sure ain't no Super Hero. Okay, okay. Women ARE better than men at most stuff, but not all the stuff this character is throwing out there. For instance driving. Men or worse drivers because they get more traffic infractions? Does the fact men do almost 70% of the driving have just a tiny bit to do with that?

Better world leaders. I'll concede there. Ninety percent of the world's leaders are men, and they've done a good job at stinking things up. I'd be willing to give that one a try.

Women are definitly tougher. Having babies, doing dishes in scalding hot water. There's not one man out there who could bleed for a week and not die. That's for damn sure.

Women are stronger than men in many ways, but some of that is because men aren't really men anymore. For whatever reasons, men today are a bunch of pussies. (note the guy in the video) It's true though. Look at this guy. If this is an example of today's man, yes women are definitly better.

This hub is an example of why I consider you to be in the hiarchy of Hub writers sis. It's not just that you write good. You always bring in subject matter that really makes people think.

Up, useful, funny and awesome.

jim


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thougtforce 5 years ago from Sweden

Very amusing article, and it is also true to some extent. But I do not agree with the results totally and I also wonder why someone put in the time and effort to try and prove it! In my world men and women are both "best" but on different things. Both sexes are needed and the war between sexes should develop into figuring out how we could best work together instead than how to beat each other!

Very good hub though, and you are right, this isn´t doing females any good!

Tina


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independentwriter 5 years ago from the Snowy Northeast

Very interesting article. I would have to say that I agree. I personally think that it is high time that we had a woman running the country. I also know that when I worked in security I always preferred to be paired with a female. They could talk an individual down. If for some reason it failed, I could always do my "bull in a china shop" routine if it got physical, which was rare.


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Peter Owen 5 years ago from West Hempstead, NY

Good hub. I'm with thoughtforce - very amusing. I wonder how many people believe this bunk.


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Just Ask Susan 5 years ago from Ontario, Canada

Really enjoyed reading this but have to say I also agree with thoughtforce. I did have a good though! Thanks.


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Tamarajo 5 years ago from Southern Minnesota

Entertaining read. I think men would do well to recognize and value the gift he gave them in being the other half of creation rather than exploit or take advantage of.

Have a great husband who does just that : ) although I do see many things he is so much better at than I am.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

LZ,

what everyone must realize is that throughout history women have had the responsibilities of multitasking and keeping-"alot of balls in the air"...While men have been tasked with few things- get food- kill beast eat food have sex sleep do it again...again...again so - thoudands of years in evolution have brought us to this point. Although with all studies- not every man or woman will conform to this axiom...

nice job-IZ

TH


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Amy Becherer 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Abrams has an agenda. I still have to look at the fact that women don't make as much in the workplace, a woman president is looked at as something extraordinary rather than feasible, women are predominantly the caregivers, because men know we'll do it if they won't putting women a notch down and still the sex to acquiese, we are still called a bitch if we don't play nice, men are called aggressive and ballsy equating to successful, even the adjective for Abrams, ie. pussy, is a putdown referring to "like a woman". Abrams wrote a book to make money. He chose a subject that will garner both female and male readers. His book doesn't say anything new...it's just another spin on how to sucker as many men and women into making him richer. Interesting read, LZ


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DavePrice 5 years ago from Sugar Grove, Ill

I'd have some fun writing comments, but the others are covering the bases, so I won't. Just, a truly heartfelt thanks, you always make reading a wonderful experience.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX

Hmmmm...

All that aside, I can tell you that, as a man, I am better at getting a woman pregnant. It's all in the equipment. Ya think? LMBO!

The Frog


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

Froggie,

i know some "gals" out there that would fight you on that...


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX

Tom - Shemales?


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W. B. Isley 5 years ago from Monett, MO

I worked for a bank as a computer nerd for 10 years in Texas. I saw all aspects of that place. I came to the conclusion many years ago that women were the superior species.

All of the important jobs, from loan secretary to back office bookkeeping, were staffed by women. After what I've seen I don't consider the bank president to be "all that" important to the inner workings of the bank. I was, however, pleased to see that many of the locations in El Paso, TX and New Mexico had women as branch presidents. I found this encouraging.

In the last couple years I have come to the conclusion, that, neither species is superior. They are complimentary, like the yin and yang symbol. Without one you do not have the symbol. There is no war between the sexes. That is a lie made up to keep us from working together.

This lie was made up to keep us dependent on an illusory idea. The powers that be are afraid that if we work together, we can get along just fine without them. We will not need to be controlled, because we can regulate ourselves.

Women provide a regulatory factor for men. How many centuries has it been since the last woman in charge took a country to war? Several. Most women don't have the desire to have the children they carried for 9 months fight and die over some so called "just cause." I have heard it said that a post-menopausal woman is the most stable person on the planet. Why are so many cultures matriarchal?

I believe that the unchecked male ego starts wars. If more men were willing to admit that they don't know it all and listen to the anchoring and calming force that is woman, less wars would take place.

Men are humans for crying in a bucket, not dogs intent on marking our territory! We didn't come from evolution alone. It took a revolutionary leap from spirit to give those chest pounding apes a consciousness. If more men acted like they had spirits and were not so identified with their egos, things could be much better.

If more men were willing to admit they are capable of making mistakes and then accepting help from women to clean up the mess, things would start getting better on this planet and we wouldn't need a power elite to tell us how to make things better all the while making them worse. We wouldn't need a power elite at all.

If more women were willing to stand up and take responsibility for themselves and their role in making the planet better, (I am starting to see this trend more and more.) and taking a stand for what they believe is right, without placing blame and being confrontational, perhaps men would be willing to wake up from the illusion that there is a need to be superior.

Another great hub, Laura. I totally enjoyed it.


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McLaren 83 5 years ago from Planet Earth

You have so many things wrong in your list abot what women can

supposedly do better than men it is laughable. Men outperform women in nearly all aspects of life. Men make better and fairer leaders, better drivers and better cops. In fact the man you mentioned who came to the conclusion women are better is just one man and men often

stick up for women even though it can mean damaging other men. Women cannot do

everything men can do. But men can do everything women can do.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

izettl, nice job here, as someone who works on projects where Women make the major decisions about 75% of the time, these conclusions come as surprise to me. I think as the dynamics in our society continue to shift in a direction that favors the skills that Women are better at, the Female gender will continue to rise.

Issues such as Female executives getting paid less will correct themselves with time, but more importantly more small businesses are being created by Women than men. I think Women will continue to move into work patterns etc. that suit them better, and invent a whole new game, rather than sticking with the "boys club"

This is probably the best time in history for Women the get their far share of the pie.


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PK2010 5 years ago from United Kingdom

I have totally enjoyed reading this hub. I always argue with my husband that I'm the better driver, but he wouldn't hear any of it. On a serious note I must agree with W.B. Isley. There is no superior gender. We were all created in God's image which makes us equal. Our functions and abilities are complimentary to each other. Imagine a world where the only living species was the male gender. I dread to think the clash of the titans would not have come sooner. There would have been a clash of egos and a bid to see who has more muscle and brawn? On the other hand imagine a world with just the female gender. All hell will break lose as there will be constant drama, back biting and a level of jealousy that the green eyed monster would not even be aware it possessed. This is just my opinion, but that leads me back to my earlier point that man and woman compliment each other. A woman doesn't get better than a man, she just has qualities which help her approach situations differently and so is it for the man. He is not better than the woman by any means, he just has a different perception. I think the reason why women have taken a back seat and allowed it to be a "man's world" is due to the fact that we have been blessed with the gift of bringing forth children. During this period, there isn't much a woman can do as her body undergoes changes that make it difficult for her to cope with the affairs of day to day life. In the absence of the woman, the man has taken over affairs and has made decisions which he has thought are necessary for the survival and existence of the human race. With time this has resorted to control in all aspects of our lives. Women have however evolved in their role of nurturers and have come to the realisation that they can be leaders as well as nurtures, they can be thinkers as well as mothers, they can be law enforcers as well as change a nappy comfortably. Hence there is a gradual infiltration of the woman in the "man's world". We have come to the realisation that we too can have it all. Man who has been so used to standing alone now,sees woman as a threat and is subtly stopping her from achieving the levels that he has (may I add this is not so in all cases and is just my opinion). Two heads are better than one. Man must embrace woman's potentials and vice versa. If we both recognise this balance, the world will be a much better place to live in.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

McLaren, You're a comedian right? Oh, Okay, I thought you were being serious for a moment! (laughing) You had me going for a minute! (you're a girl right?)

j.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

IZ,

the sign of a good hub- its taking on a life of its own and becoming self aware.. Its ALIVE ITS ALIVE GOOD GOD ITSS ALIVE AAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH...

TH


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

The truth is, women possess one thing that will always keep them in control. It has nothing to do with hammers, driving ability, or any of the other issues Mr. Abrams covered in his book. Had Mr. Abrams dealt with this subject, it would have been a one page book and would not have informed us of anything we didn't already know. A womans physical strength and mental abilities don't even come into play when women break out this weapon. They win and we lose, simple as that, and this will never change. Just my take on this subject LOL.


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McLaren 83 5 years ago from Planet Earth

No joke! Women have all the advantages because men give them these advantages. There are in reality few things women can do better than men. But REAL studies have shown women are better at threading needles and making a bed from scratch lol

seriously, women have proved to be very dissapointing world leaders and do not inspire the electorate to only vote for women. In tense situations women rely on men to break apart fighting and disagreements. Female cops are neither expected to take the same level of risk as men. As for being better drivers it should be noted that most drivers are men and more men have to drive for occupational purposes. As a result a higher percentage of traffic violations will involve men. Cops also allow women off with driving offenses ALOT! Women in politics are not less corrupt either, fewer women enter politics than men and countless female leaders have been charged or suspected of corruption.

Men can also tolerate twice as much pain as women (roughly) and have been shown to be more intelligent by 3 - 5 IQ points in just about every intelligence test across the world. Women also live longer yes, but is this a result of easier lives and preferential health care?

In our culture we have to treat women much more kindly, almost like children. Men even take the side of women to gain their approval. So many men who carry out research that say women are better are doing so with the intentions of purposely saying they are. Women have had dominance and privilige for nearly half a century but have not contributed as much to the human race. Women did not send us to the moon. Women do not make any significant amount of scientific advancement. Men are the people who do nearly all the thinking and all the work. The very computer you are typing on is a mans creation. The seat you are sitting on to do it is also a mans creation and so is the house you are doing all this in.

Sorry, but I have little time for female privilige. I enjoy the banter between men and women but Have no time for those women who genuinely believe they are superior. If they believe that I am happy to show them the painful truth. And that is that women continue to do very little in comparison to men. Oppression and male dominance is not an excuse and women have never been more oppressed than men have.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

McClaren,

I respectfully (and I DO mean respectfully) disagree with almost everything you've said. This is one area that I have not studied. I admit that. This time next week, I'll be an expert on it, but for now, I'm speaking of life experiences. You can throw I.Q. out the door, because it's measured in three different ways, and you can't make a statement saying either one has a higher I.Q. across the board and be correct.

Men are stronger, however women have better endurance. I've been in the gym and in sports all my life, and I know this to be a fact.

I can't argue the "better in science" issue, but women are moving ahead as time goes on, and I think you'll see women contributing more and more to these things.

I DO agree that men are better drivers over all. women have a tendency to panic in an emergency situation.

Women contribute well in police work, but I think men are more effective over all. We agree there too.

I would argue that there are many things that women can do better than men. Women have a lot more patience than men, and can do and accomplish many things over a man because of that.

Pain? You're dead wrong there. I've seen a lot of people with bullet wounds, male and female. I've been shot, and the only time we can handle pain better than women is when there are only men around. If there's a women within screaming distance, we're worse than babies.

The point is, we're different. Like cars and trucks. You can do many things with a car that you can't do with a truck and vis versa. That's the way it is my friend.

The problem? In general, men or forgetting how to be men. We are wittnessing the pussyfication of man. Women are getting stronger, because men are becoming wimps, and can no longer play protector. I was raised to be a man, and respect women. I still open doors for a women. I wouldn't be able to hold down a dinner a woman bought for me, yet as you can see I adore women and the special but essential roll they play here on the planet.

I visited your profile, and I don't think you're really quite like how you come off in here. That's why I've been so nice. I'm working on a nicer, better me, but it only lasts until I get pissed, then I'm a dick.

jim


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

Anyone, Try to deny this on the pro woman side.

1- Women are much better at giving birth, ouch!

2- Women have much curvier bodies, thank G-D.

3- In most cases women have larger breasts.

4- Women are better looking. If you don't agree, you're gay. I'm far from PC.

5- Writers use women as a muse more than men.

6- Women are softer, yeah!

7- Women make the decisions on how far thing will go sexually.

8- I have only fallen in love with a woman, I guess it's their power.

9- I had nothing better to do. H


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Poolman, I think I know what you're talking about and this is true. Although it aggravates me when men think we use it against them, well, I don't but I'm sure some do. If we all did ,there would be female world dominance.

MCLAREN~ I'm just the messenger here. I'm reporting what one man wrote in a book, however, he didn't just shoot from the hip here. He acutally did research and conducted polls and also gathered data from various studies acrosss the world. So there is a bit of "evidence". The driving one is debatable because men get angry or frustrated or reckless when driving while women get "panicky" in emergency situations. Hormones (adrenaline and testosterone) get the best of men's driving abilities unfortunately. Driving is not just technical abilities. It involves many elements- being able to go forth in traffic and maneuver smoothly with other drivers. Women are more likely to use turn sginals and other communication while driving. In other words you can be the smartest kid in school, but if you don't play nice with others, you're not getting credit.

"Women have all the advantages because men give them these advantages". I think you're just trying to be a jerk by saying that. Really, what era did you wake up in? There are far more advantages women allow men, my friend. Such as your life. I'm assuming you were hatched by a woman? Also women do allow men to have sex with them. If you marry a woman, you will live longer. Women have civilized men in the way that men would just take what they want, but women encourage relationships which accomplish more in business and politics.

Actually studies show women live longer because of enduring more pain, emotional and physical, so we don't have an easy life. We work harder to earn 3/4 pay- that's easy? You're just contradicting yourself now. How odd because you almost sounded smart when you first started out.

"Women have had dominance and privilige for nearly half a century but have not contributed as much to the human race." Well guess we don't need life raft, windshield wiper, electric hot water heater, medical syringes, circular saw, radioactivity to shrink tumors,and women were involved with putting men on the moon. Just to name a few things. I can also argue women haven't had all the access to tools, etc to invent many of the things men did. Who do you think was taking care of the kids while men were tinkering in their workshops?

You're making many bold statements with little to back it up with.

All my female friends who are mothers, myself included, do not have one man in their life, husbands included who can do for a baby what a mom can. None of them are able to stay up at nights, have patience, read body language, pick up illnesses like women. They don't even hold a candle and if you say you have little time to be involved with women and the silliness of it all (I have to wonder if you were raised by wolves) then you are saying raising children is not important. A computer, a chair? How about raising a kid, putting up with demands a baby? You wouldn't be sitting at your computer without a woman. Men focus and concentrate on their professions, their hobbies which can turn into wonderful inventions, but women have always had to take the majority responsibility with raising a life, a human being. Our focus is always with child and then whatever else we can accomplish. Men I know can't barely chew and take care of a child properly at the same time. Women's disadvantage is rasing chldren because it's a significant distraction, but worth it don't you think?


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Harvey~ too funny!you do know (and appreciate) women. Even I'd rather look at a naked woman than a man and I am sooo straight.

Jim~ great points- you say it best when comparing men to women and using the car and truck analogy. Bottom line is nobody would be here without us. McLaren acts like he was hatced from a chicken egg or something- women are irrelevent or something.

Thanks for stopping by buddy

I got to catch up on other comments later- I'll be back...


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Jim~ on men being more like women nowadays. There has been reasearch going into that possibility and maybe because of foods we eat, more hormones in meats. Soy is also an ingredient in many foods and can give men boobs to certain extent- in high quantities of course. But try to find a food without soy ingredients.


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, Sure you're straight! I can read what's written on bathroom walls, I went into the ladies room. H


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Laura, uhh. (whisper) I think McLaren's a chick! Go look at the profile. I'm getting ready to go over the new hub real quick and publish it, so you'll be getting notice

j.


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McLaren 83 5 years ago from Planet Earth

Themanwithnopants

I have to say i also disagree with you. IQ can be tested in many different ways but recent advances in these tests make them more accurate than ever. Results show men are slightly but significantly more intelligent. If women can tolerate more pain and have greater endurance then I say ban men (the weaker sex) from joining the military or at the very least from joining the infantry. If women have they advantage they should take responsibility for it. Although I wonder how many women are shot compared to men? Not many I would guess. Men are more often the victims of violent crime. In my experience men deal with pain much better and men also have greater endurance.

I'm glad you agree men are better drivers and are expected to take more risk in police work. I also agree there are many things women can do better but I will not say because I don't believe in giving any credence to people who do not respect me. Respect should work both ways. Since it was mentioned I will say yes to women being more patient. That is what makes them more successful gamblers.

Men are not forgetting how to be men lol. Men I would argue have always been more oppressed than women. Women only started making adances that coincided with men leaving traditional industries and advancement in technology and medicine. Advances men made happen! Now we live in a society where women are given preferential treatment and live easier lives than men as a result. Men still work more overtime and still work in much more demanding jobs that women will not consider going into. Men only make themselves wimps by caving to womens endless demands. You seem to have little idea how many laws there are all over the world that truly oppress men and massively advantage women. If women are the brighter and stronger sex then I say let them take over and I DO mean that. I guarentee even if women did manage to take over more or less, they would still keep a select few men to do all the hard and dirty jobs. If mens only advantage is being physically stronger then I say we should all give up now and pursue our own interests. But the who would defend our nations, who would advance us further in science, technology and medicine, who would maintain our roads, plumbing, electrical supplies an so forth?

I will treat women as equals if they will treat me as equal. But if we are honest there is very little that is equal in men and womens own natural behaviour. It is always the men who are expected to even ask women out on a date. How many women with their superior intellects and morals would have the courage to walk up to a man in a bar and ask him out in front of his onlooking friends?

Women expect more of us, but if we are inferior then I am more than happy to let them take the lead on all matters of life. Surely then us guys should be given preferential treatment through affirmative action? As the weaker sex we must deserve extra help. And as the sicker sex let's also take all the millions spent on unnecessery preventative female health care and use it to treat men who suffer more cancers, heart attacks and strokes.

No one likes a man who speaks the truth or stands up for himself but even with equality we love it when women do it.


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McLaren 83 5 years ago from Planet Earth

Since I am outnumbered I will take my leave! Bye.

And izetti, never suggested women are irrelevant or this was not a message relayed.

xxx


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Wow .. Can I ask you a question? I mean you seem like you you've given this a lot of thought. I'm sorry, but I thought you were female, and I couldn't understand your position on this. Are you gay? It's cool either way, but just wondering.

jim


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

McLaren~ not even attempting a discussion with me? I only say Irrelevant because of your statements: "Men are the people who do nearly all the thinking and all the work." & "And that is that women continue to do very little in comparison to men." I can sum up those two statements with the word irrelevant, but deny it if it helps. themanwithnopants has a couple of questions and so do I. Did you have a mommy? Do you have kids?

Raising a child is the hardest work, harder than going to war because wars eventually end and motherhood never does.

It is known that it's a man's world therefore women do not have it easier. If we got to work for 12 hours, same as a man, and we come home to a child (another job), but men clock out at that point. Men have only been able to do anything significant because he either did not have children or their mommy was tending to them while he did his thing.

Who would...who would be here if it weren't for women?

By the way, if you think I am one of the women who think they are superior, you're dead wrong. I think men and women were created to compliment each other. The best partnerships are those created to balance out each others weaknesses and strengths. You are ignoring a while side there.

When I was in the business industry, I used masculine techniques to get things done. So it is very much a man's world. if you act typically female in the business world, you'll get swallowed up. I had to be masculine at work and come home to be feminine and nurturing for my husband and baby. Most men can't be that many roles in one day. I've been the best at everything I've ever wanted to do until I had a child and she is still very young so my attention is always partly on her. I envy men for being able to focus 100% of their attention to their work.

I don't expect you to respond since you didn't respond to my first comment. I see you're new here so let me give you a proper welcome...Welcome to hubpages.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

sabu singh~ great point about intuition. Yep, I think there is truth to that for sure. Women are complex so it takes men time to get to know that and sometimes appreciate it. It's a lot to handle. I think men and women are different to compliment each other- we're good for each other. thanks for stopping by.

Harvey~ you've got me cracking up, smiling and laughing all the time. I mean, tell me how you really feel- lol.

Tom H~ you've made one of the most important points here so far. When we multi-task we are less likely to master any one thing- that's just the human brain. Men are able to focus on a few less things than women and that enables them to master things. I see this in my own house between my husband and I. He can barely do anything while solely caring for our little one whereas I cook dinner, make a phone call, feed the dog, and take care of our 3 yr old all at once. Of course I do have eyes in the back of my head- lol. Boy this hub has run away. I honestly didn't expect any guys to jump at reading this.

PK2010~ I have to admit I was jumping for joy at the news about women being better drivers. I thought it would surely settle the disagreement between my husband and I. But seriously I totally agree with those saying we are complimentary to each other, different but not better. But I love your point about men seeing women as a threat rather than a alli. We are better together, not in spite of each other. Yep I totally agree with you there. Thanks for reading.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ you're just scared of me- lol. Just kidding. i'm totally on board with some of the oddities found in this book too. To be perfectly honest, I haven't had good working experiences with women and prefer a male boss. But it coincides with what you say about women ultimately finding their way in the business world that suits them and their strengths. When I was a career woman, I had to conform myself to the "boys club" mentality, but now I do work that fits my lifestyle with a small child. Great point- thanks for the comment.

W.B Isley~ you'd make a better hub on this than me- lol. Wow, great comment and wonderfully presented. I agree i agree I agree!! It really is a complimentary mentality- it's not a contest of who is superior or not. But even women with other women are hard on each other and make a contest out of who is better at work or better mothers. This is what holds us back, both sexes, is not viewing it as yin and yang.

Dave Price~ thanks for stopping by. The comment section has taken on a life of its own.

Harvey~ I heard this saying: the woman marries a man hoping he will change and the man marries the woman hoping she will not change. So true!

Amy~ I got that number. Yep, I knew Abrams was slick on that because he even stated if this book was written by a woman it wouldn't get picked up by one single man and wouldn't get much attention, but if a guy wrote it, he'd bank it. Also I mentioned to someone else, it's easy to find a bunch of studies to support a bias point you want to make, just as Abrams did here. thanks for stopping by.

thougtforce~ you are so right! the author was clearly trying to market this idea and just make money off of it. I totally agree women and men are better at different things and not overall (or superior over one another) as this book suggests.

Peter~ thanks for the comment. I agree with thougtforce too.

independentwriter~ you give some great examples of how men and women complement each other. I've had some nightmare female bosses, but bad male ones too so I think it would be interesting to see what a woman would as president.

Susan~ Thanks for stopping by Susan. Some great points here and many agree, including myself, with thougtforce.

Tamarajo~ yes! loved your first part of your comment. I also believe women were created to compliment a man, and compliment each others strengths and weaknesses, not take advantage or sabotage the other.

Frog Prince~ thanks for adding your bit in there- lol. You got me on that one. But science will find a way to make men obsolete on getting women pregnant. Perhaps...


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Christopher Price 5 years ago from Vermont, USA

Laura-

I have long contended that the only advantage men have over women is that we can write our names in the snow without moving our feet, (if you know what I mean), and feminists would begrudge us that.

Looking around at the state of the world after 5,000 years of male domination, I just hope that when women take over they keep us around for comedic relief, and remember kindly those of us who remembered to put the toilet seat down!

CP


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, Wow, long night of comments here, well I had a long night in the lab also, but I did make a research breakthrough. I finally got the answer to the following question. Do you know why men are turned on by women in leather? Because the smell like a new car!! LOL

Seriously though, I do think we are at a time in society where Women may have a chance at gaining the upper hand because the things that they are best at are becoming increasingly more valuable that physical strength. Most of us are glad to be the gender that we are, but from a general standpoint today may be the first time in history that being born Female may be considered a natural advantage. I see tremendous confidence on the young Women today as never before.

One more thing, congratulations on the new baby!

Enjoy the rest of your weekend!!! Gary


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

IZ,

Thanks for the compliment on occasion I get something,

thanks for the great hub although- some fols seem to be living on the banks of "De-nile'*chucke* IZ just when you thought I had a clue...

TH


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

CP~ nice to see you. we definitely need you guys for comedic relief. But we need you and you need us- it goes both ways. God bless the guys that put toilet seats down- thank you thank you thank you!!And thanks for the comment.

gguy~ oh I totally would suspect men like the new car leather smell, especially on a woman. I never put the two together, but that makes sense for sure. I did a little poll when i was in school and it was to see how many men remembered the name of their first sex partner compared to their first car. Men always remember their first cars, but the first sex partner- not so much. So I know men and their cars.lol.

There's advantages to both. Men I think will always have the upperhand because they know they will always be the physically stronger sex.

I didn't just have a baby, I was just giving that as a past example. My daughter is now 3, but those memories of her as a baby are burned into my brain because never have I done anything more difficult. Honestly, labor was painful, but no endurance necessary really. Getting 2 hours a sleep for almost a year after baby is born, now that requires endurance and painful.

Thank for the comment Gary.

TH~ Oh goodness. You can't help but make me smile sometimes. Yep, your clue is gone.


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bbnix 5 years ago from Southern California

Wow, what a topic and flood of comments to my first visit to your lovely writing, Ms.izettl. I am totally impressed and very much look forward to following more of your work.

If I might add - I consider my life an incredible gift and every second an ever mounting joy, and that is due most principally to a very few incredible individuals in my life - and, but for a couple important exceptions, all women.

I have been taught compassion, empathy, strength, perseverance, integrity, and many, many more attributes of myself that I hold dear, all by women, and I would argue the reason women don't rule the world, is that, through their incredible empathy, they ALLOW men to steal the world from them.

But, that said, we are talking in the abstract, so there is no reason I cannot learn from women and excel to a level comparable

Wouldn't the world be an incredible place if we all learned to be compassionate, strong, giving, protective, and mind numbingly dedicated, much like a mother is to her child...

Thanks again for a wonderful read, my newest dear friend...


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cheaptrick 5 years ago from the bridge of sighs

Haven't read comments so this may be redundant But,this doesn't surprise me at all.Since the beginning of time,the fact that men have been physically stronger than women forced woman to develop their mental skills to survive.Over time,as physical strength became less important and mental dexterity took center stage women have gained more and more,It even applies to social interaction.The day will come when social roles are completely reversed...it's happening before our eyes.Personally,I welcome it.This world needs a change and very soon.I hope you ladies do a better job than we did.

Dean


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W. B. Isley 5 years ago from Monett, MO

Laura, I must make a correction to one point I made in my comment. (I took your suggestion and am turning my comment into a hub, by the way.) It hasn't been that long since the last woman ruler took a country into war. It would appear that Margret Thatcher was one of the last female rulers to take a country to war in the Falkland islands.

I suppose she is an example of a woman who took the role of "hangin' with the boys club" a little to seriously.

This hub has definitely taken on a life of its own. You have a great intuition as to what is not PC and will get a lot of responses. Great work.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

bbnix~ it's a delicate balance currently for women. Many are developing male attributes to do what we want and achieve goals in a man's world. But we have to nuture our own softer side so that unique gift isn't lost years, perhaps centuries down the road. I think you are right about women forfeiting on some level the leadership of this country, of the world. Men naturally get more joy out of leadership, competition, strength, while women focus on what makes us happy like enjoying beautiful things, strengthening relationships, and letting emapthy dominate our actions. This all sounds a bit stereotypical, but I'm just elaborating on the wonderful points you brought up in your comment. Thank you and nice to meet you. I'll be checking out your hubs.

cheaptrick~ intersting point. I do agree with this. We're seeing a change in our society where physical abilities aren't needed as much as mental. You weren' redundant at all and thanks for dropping by Dean.

W.B~ I am glad to see you writing a hub on this. I need to stop by your hubs soon- I've been on a writing kick and need to catch up reading my fave's hubs- you being one of my favorites. I'm going to sound very stereotypical here, but you have a wonderful depth and get on a level that I don't see a lot in men. Anyway, it's a compliment. Margaret Thatcher, oh boy, I'll have to brush up on her because it's been a while.

W.B, I reach outside the box to question people on what they believe, take for granted, and just wake them up a little. It's not for everyone but I'm glad to see those that appreciate most of the time. Even those that disagree can learn something or simply reaffirm their original belief and that's OK too.


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Londonlady 5 years ago

Hmmm...maybe next time I want a few hundred comments on one of my hubs I will write something in this realm, haha. Great hub! The battle of the sexes will always go on but honestly, I think BOTH sexes have their own talents and weaknesses, and I can't imagine a world without either one of them. It is almost like yin-yang we complete each other! Voted UP :)


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F. K. Isley 5 years ago from Missouri

Hi Izetti,

First let me say, I am NOT a big fan of Dan. Nor am I a feminist. I have worked in two very big and international companies. Even though some of Dan's statements maybe true. The simple truth is, Dan is just trying to sell a book.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, as the comments pile up, on thing I do find interesting, Although I did not do a formal count on your comments, it seems that most of the men agree that Women have won or are winning the war of the sexes while the Women feel they have not. So is the grass greener on the other side of the fence, or are men and women simply using different parameters?

Oh, by the way, I may be afraid of you myself, but how do you feel about 2000 lizards chasing you down the street while you are screaminig?? LOL


Old Empresario 5 years ago

I've never read the book (which needs a better title) but I would have trouble seeing the merit in something written by an analyst with low job security on the NBC payroll who wants to gain financial independence by selling as many books as he can. However, I agree with a lot of these insinuations. Namely, I find female employees to be more willing to learn and take direction. Men prefer to figure things out for themselves, though they usually fail in the process. Although I do not accept that men are more corrupt than women, I do accept that women are more prone to deceiving themselves into believing that what they are doing is not wrong. And why do I feel like I am going to die every time I am riding in a car with a woman driver? Young men may drive fast, but women of all ages are the world’s worst tailgaters. I attribute this to the fact that offensive driving is a passive-aggressive form of bullying. It’s the only way someone lacking confidence can feel strong and dominant. Lack of confidence and the need for acceptance might explain why women practice more often than men and why they try harder to learn things. Practice and learning due to a desire for acceptance might be a better explanation as to why women perform certain job functions better than men. Certainly having a certain reproductive organ over another doesn’t make the difference.

And I actually like the old school feminists. I prefer them to this new pseudo-sexist movement of narcissistic straight women giving each other high fives as they get revenge on their ex-boyfriends. But I don't want you to think I didn't like your hub. It was good and it made made me think.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Londonlady~ I honestly didn't think the response would be so overwhelming. I just found the book interesting and wondered what the response would be. I agree about the yin and yang of it all.Thanks so much for stopping by.

F.K Isley~ couldn't agree with you more about Dan. I wanted to put more of my perspective on this in the hub, but wanted to let people have their own opinion without too much of my personal thoughts.In fact, my reaction when I first saw this man talk about his book was seeing his smirk when he mentioned it is more credible written by a man. Well that implies a mouthful right there. He saw the incoe potential and jumped on it. Like I mentioned to someone else, anybody can compile studies to back up their bias or agenda. Thanks for commenting!

gguy~ you have incredible insight I didn't even pick up on. Sooo right you are! That interesting and I'll have to give that more thought. I feel we are still failing because we still have to choose or limit ourselves when we have children- it's true. We would like to do it all and some women postpone having kids with a mentality of having a "life" then having kids because the business world and really all areas expect women to be 100% even after we have family reponsibilities. We still feel we have to choose or be only 50% at things once we've had kids. I know women who just short of kill themsleves over trying to do it all.if it was a woman's world it would take into account mothers more, but that's not how it works.

Old E~ Glad to make you think -that's my goal here. I don't agree with all your points but I can certainly see the value in them and another great perspective. Men still scare me the most while driving. They don't back down from confrontations behind the wheel and they think they're in a video game or contest. I do agree with you about work life and men and women- you have valid points there. Thanks for reading and stopping by to comment. I enjoyed your insight.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, Thanks for your opinion on my opinion LOL, but one thing you said, probably not deliberatly, but you mention that Women have failed to achieve their goals. I will have to say I disagree with that perhaps success has not been 100% due to other responsibilities, but I think the rise of Women should be measured in degree of success, and never failure.


Jeanine 5 years ago

Very cool read... and the more you girls get situated the better it is for the trans community... I used to say we are the men of the future... but the more you girls keep coming on the more I'm inclined to believe we are the women of the future... we get paid as men... strong in body... although we think like women... and are unafraid to stop and ask for directions... so we are good with it... those who choose to stay in the body... are lucky in that there is still equipment that you girls are still interested in but fewer and fewer of the bad qualities that your typical men carry... I've been waiting patiently for you to write this where you might understand why my kind stayed in the bodies of men... "and when she discovered where she was... she no longer minded being in the body she had been given".... lol..lol..lol... made you think huh... Love your writing baby girl...


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ that's just me though, I'm always looking to improve. Until I became a mother I never knew of the struggles yet to overcome for mothers, maybe not necessarily just as women. To be frank, it was easy in my life being a woman before being a mother. When kids are little, they change so often and as soon as you get the hang of one thing, they change- it would be comparable to a job that changes daily in ways you can't predict.

In general, and overall, you are right about the rise of women in the last few decades. So much has been accomplished. We just need to asssit the women who transition into mothers. I believe the rise of women was partly due to the fact that women are postponing motherhood until later in life. And not to be negative, I just look at what could and should be accomplished for the mothers, especially in the workforce.

Wonderful discussion and thank you for it Gary.

Jeanine~ thanks for stopping by. Well you are the best of both worlds. I believe that for sure. It's just the world isn't having that and I wouldn't even know how to address that based on man versus woman- that's a whole other hub. I do think it's too bad that trans are still forced to pick a gender. Like my dad, I know people would just like him to pick one or look specifically like one or the other. But it doesn't always work that way. Thanks to you I understand that better.


Jeanine 5 years ago

I do have the best of both worlds... and that's for another hub...lol... in the future I believe with all my heart that my tribe will choose only one... Trans which is both... a true third gender... a creature possessing both... understanding and grace... emotions tied to logic... spiritually grounded in humanity... mercy without judgement... forgiveness not only for others but for oneself also... to hold the keys to the heart and soul... and the intellect of a sophisticated lady... as well as the humor and mystery of a most interesting man... thanks for letting me express... you are wonderful...


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Any time Jeanine.


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SilentReed 5 years ago from Philippines

Why must it always be a battle of the sexes? Men and women were meant to complement each other. Else the human species would have been extinct a long time ago.Gender should not be an issue where work is concern.the job should go to the best qualified and suited.Granted that is not the reality at present but ideas take time to evolve and be accepted.Let just hope it does not go from one extreme to the other.Can't imagine that in the future we would have men burning bras in public protest against being discriminated at :))


Jeanine 5 years ago

It will only be bras if that's what you girls find attractive... more than likely it will be shoes... lol... as the tall girls take over the power... they will begin to demand that more men be tall enough for them... so when the absurdity finally spills over... it will be from little men protesting the requirements of stronger women... oh wait... that's now... lol...


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McGilwriter 5 years ago from Florida

i read somewhere that women have to deal with periods and pregnancies, while men have to deal with women. It all balances out ;)


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

SilentReed~ I thought the war was over long time ago, but apparently the show is on the other foot (figuratively speaking) and now men are feeling out of balance. I also think they (men and women) are meant to compliment each other- no doubt. THanks for stopping by.

Jeanine~ you are right on about a lot of that.

McGilwriter~ ha! now that's a good one.


Harvey Stelman 5 years ago

iz, i've had many periods, haven't we all? H


Jeanine 5 years ago

Easy Harvey... you standing on shaky ground...lol


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

It may be getting a little too crazy here even for me, at that takes a lot!! LOL


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, I think I can take this a little further.

http://hubpages.com/relationships/My-Experience-As... H


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, I have heard your comment before, about Women having a less than pleasant experience with a Female boss. I think there could be several reasons for this.

1) Some of the early Women to beak into the corporate world were just mean people.

2) They feel young Women have too easy now (not like it was when they broke into the field) and resent the younger Women.

3)They are working in an environment that was designed by the "boys club" at not natural for them. (Most Women I know seen to do better in a small business situation, and appear to be doing better at it than men.)

My opinion would be that #3 would be the common scenario.


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Beyond-Politics 5 years ago from The Known Universe (beyond.the.spectrum@gmail.com)

We're increasingly living in a feminized society


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Tamila Roberts 5 years ago from Canada

That's a very critical point of view. It was an enjoyable read. Thank you


Harvey Stelman 5 years ago

iz, Because of your Hub, I may have surgery. It's all your fault, how would I look as a woman? H


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Well Harvey, it is known that men actually have a "period" ever 7 days, according to their testosterone levels. I knew guys had more hormonal changes than women every month. And Harvey, no I can't imagine you as a woman- no way. I know you like women (a lot, you little devil) but that's much too far from becoming one.

gguy~ very right. I have hd much older female bosses and I do think younger women now have it easier than they did. I think the older female bosses have more testosterone than the men.

Beyond politics~ yes I've heard this from many guys. It's a tough balance to achieve.

Tamila~ Thanks for the nice comment.


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, years ago I sold liquor, and had more gay accounts than anyone else. A queen bar asked me to participate in a beauty contest. See how much you know H


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Docmo 5 years ago from UK

Interesting book- great hub. I will now quietly go and lie down to contemplate my future in this world. I adore this wild generalizations as they sure stimulate a lot of debate.

As a man who helps nurture his children, stayed up nights helping to look after them, changed diapers and fed them, who is not shy of cleaning, washing or ironing, as a medic who constantly listens to his patients empathetically and picks up cues even those who have them didn't know about, I do feel ever so slightly hurt. But hey, I am a man, I am not supposed to have feelings and should be emotionally retarded. So I am sure I will get over it. lol.

I thought it was about the Yin and Yang. The Gender equivalence that fosters life and harmony. But if Dan Abrams wants a provocative title that sells books and gets in the Telly, who are we to stand in his way.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, those first Women in the corporate world had it much tougher than you Women today, they had to walk to and from work, 4 miles in heels and it was uphill both ways!! LOL


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OpinionDuck 5 years ago

Izetti

They say All Men Are Created Equal, but they don't say anything about Women, now we know.


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JOE BARNETT 5 years ago

hiii izzy! interesting hub. i think though that the author was hoping the book would create a fervor and more money for him, but very interesting.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Harvey~ well now I totally see you in a different light- perhaps a neon light or black light with florescent accents- lol.

Docmo~ you are one of few. These are wild generalizations and one point with that is men in general don't pick up on cues and avoid emotional things. You are diamond and should be honored higher than other men, but we're not here to rate men. Otherwise you would have won. Thank God this book isn't that serious in my opinion or else I'd me upset if I were a man because I think men are doing a wonderful job of crossing over and helping with raising kids, etc. Thanks for the comment.

gguy~ LOL!!!! Nice one!

Opinionduck~ Hi there. Thank you for your opinion...and humor, but you're right.

Joe B~ I think the comment section here is more interesting and insightful than Dan's book. First thing I thought was how this guy is smug about making money off this. But we all see through you Dan, even women. We are supposedly smarter.


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Christopher Price 5 years ago from Vermont, USA

Laura-

I love you the wonderful response this hub has sparked.

With respectful bow to Harvey I must point out that, if he is one in a million, I too should have 999,999 regular males from which I too can stand apart.

When I was unexpectedly laid off from a job for which I had received praise and bonuses, my wife decided to join the army to prevent losing the house we had just signed the papers for.

I became a single parent in the middle of a bitter Vermont winter, in a drafty house we could barely afford to heat, with our nine month old daughter and six year old son. I was "Mister Mom"...and my daughter still loves chilly!

I am also a poet and artist who embraces my feminine side.

I must agree with the people who fail to see the need to participate in a "war of the sexes". I think men and women should be equal and complimentary. However, if women should take over I will not mind walking a couple paces behind...the better to check out you butt...uh, for artistic purposes,of course! :{)

CP


Jeanine 5 years ago

Izetti... Happy Easter... I have been thinking and I believe you are a very good model for the woman who wants to take more under control... tall... assertive... creative... beautiful... compassionate, with a slight touch... of laughter with a unique sense of humor... I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the girls begin to smother us with love or with a pillow in our beds... for right now I appreciate your gender not choosing the second... some of us...learned early on that the girls would win one day... and as I grew I realized it was a very interesting journey... women were god's and men were their keepers... it was the strangest of all sites I had seen... those in charge giving control of themselves to keepers called men.... as I grew older I watched with such intensity... yearning to be more like the god's... yet possessing the qualities of men... what an amazing thing... if I could progress on both fronts then I would know what it was like to be a god... and at the same time learn to be a keeper... "two spirited"


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, I agree with Jeanine. On looks, I would give you at least a 3. H


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Christopher P~ I agree and I think nothing is sexier than a man who embraces his feminie side. It shows confidence in who he is. I believe I have both male and female traits, but it's just me. The book is hard to swallow because so many men and women are crossing the lines and men are becoming better with chldren's needs and nurturing, etc. Through all of society's changes I think one thing remains constant- we compliment each other and need each other. Thanks for stopping by and yes you are one in at least 999,999. Happy Easter.

Jeanine~ I loved getting your Happy Easter message- thank you and Happy Easter to you too. It's also my birthday today. What a special birthday it's been. My daughter's first Easter egg hunt too- so much fun.Men and women are different for a reason- I believe and to help each other through life's journeys with an ability to see the world through each others eyes. I'm beginning to learn those traits in you and my dad. That is, turning on and off certain female and male characteristics, identifying with both- I find myself doing this from time to time. i see so many people not confident in being a man or a woman and I think the trick is to become confident in just who you are, aside from the female or male identification. "two sprited"- beautiful.

Harvey~ come on Harvey, it's my birthday- I deserve a 4 or 5 despite a few grey hairs I noticed today.


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!" What are you, 23? You're a beauty to me! H


jeanine 5 years ago

Happy birthday dear... I would say more like an eleven...


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Thanks you guys- I'm 30 something...


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W. B. Isley 5 years ago from Monett, MO

Happy Birthday! Its late cause we lost internet for two days due to lightening.

I agree with Jeanine. I'll go for an eleven also.

I bet it's an early 30 something (yes, I am sucking up.)

I always did like older women. (Even though I'll be 40 in a few days.) You have an old soul my friend. ;-)


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

W.B~ thank you sir. No longer an "early" 30-something though. Maybe I'll be taken more seriously in my older age- lol. Sent you an email the other day- hope you got it.


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W. B. Isley 5 years ago from Monett, MO

Yes ma'am. I got your email. Internet was down for two days due to lightening. I'm working my way though the back log.

I really appreciate you taking the time to give me some pointers. I've read your email twice. I've been formulating an answer. Haven't had time to come up with a proper response, though.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

No worries about getting back to me on the email W.B- just wondered if you got it cause you said your internet was down. Overall, you're starting better than I did on here and it took me 50+ hubs to figure out my "voice" and get my own formula.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, Happy Birthday!!! You are a 10 plus!!!


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Thanks gguy! THank God being a 10+ hasn't gotten to my head- lol. But the age has- it's really messing with me. I'm more like a 10+26- Yikes! Actually I don't really care about the numbers- some days I feel 20, others 70. I'm like the elderly people who reply "If I wake Up, it's a good day".


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prasetio30 5 years ago from malang-indonesia

This book is great. Nice review and I want to read more than my big appreciation to woman. The woman conclusion inside this book was surprising much. Thanks. You got my VOTE. Cheers....

Prasetio


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Samantha_Marie 5 years ago from Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Wow! Great hub. I'm feeling empowered. I am strong, I am invincible, I am woman. :)


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Char M 5 years ago from Pacific Coast

So much interesting information here. Love your topics you choose. Many of the commenters suggest Dan Abrams is trying to sell a book. I think that's pretty transparent here. He is, but this is fun information to look at. It may shift a few thoughts around for some people.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

THank you Prasetio for stopping by. My mom got this book and I skimmed through it- it's entertaining.

Samantha~ Nothing wrong with being an empowered woman. And men don't have to get the wrong impression just because women are empowered doesn't mean we take some sort of power away from you guys. Just to make that clear. THanks for stopping by Samantha.

Char M~ I completely agree. Thanks for your comment.


David99999 5 years ago

You must be very bitter. I feel sorry for you. You haven't proven anything.

First rule of stating an argument: Back it up with documented academic studies and facts. You have not done this. Your "assertion" smacks of old-style sexism. I'm not going to stoop to your level. I've sensed that you have an attitude from the very start.

Sage advice: If you want your relationships to improve, seek professional help. You need to chill out and stop being so paranoid. You obviously have an inferiority complex, when it comes to males. Venting on here isn't going to resolve your issues.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

David~ I love you too,but every time you comment I get this feeling that you have read the title of my hub but never more than two sentences of the entire hub. Your comments are totally from left field.

First, here are some quotes from my hub that you so kindly forgot to read because you were so eager to leave your profound comment. " I was surprised to see this book and the findings." By this I am saying I was surprised to see that a man wrote a book about studies done around the world that showed women were better at many more things than men. Then I was also surprised to some of the things they were supposedly better at. I also said in the hub, "Some may think this is exactly what a woman would want, but you're wrong." THis is my opinion that some book coming out by a man that states women are better is almost a joke- nobody will take this serious. Which is why I wrote this hub- a good hubber and blogger will promote conversation and this hub has. My opinion all through the hub is neutral. Again, read the hub before you comment. Also if you read my hubs, read with an open mind and a sense of humor. I write about things to inspire conversation and my hubs always deliver that.

PLEASE give me one statement in my hub that displays a bitter attitude.

ALSO this book and these opinions were written by a man- go take your argument to him, not me. I'm just a messenger that wrote a slighted book review.AND his book is nothing but studies and facts on what women are better at.

Wild accusations on your part. What exactly am I paranoid about? In the mean time I'll try to work on my attitude and you try overcome your fears of confident women.


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

iz, I know I've saved some ladies, physically. I don't remember any saving me. H


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randslam 5 years ago from Kelowna, British Columbia

Another book, and author, verifying that one shouldn't believe everything put in print.

I was a carpenter, and have never yet met a woman who could swing a better hammer.

I was a hockey player, and have yet to see a better female hockey player.

I am a writer, and a thinker, who doesn't like to see causes like this obvious effort to exploit, in a book, the 'battle of the sexes'.

The continued efforts of wannabes to make a point about the dominant sex is worthless drivel. The planet needs good men and women to arrive at a point of cooperation.

Statistics have shown that men are suffering a drop in testosterone levels, that women are seeing more opportunities in western civilization, but to put one gender over another? That seems quite silly, don't ya think?

Woman are wonderful, and men can be silly, but to throw everyone under the bus of this useless topic? That's just silly.


David99999 5 years ago

@izetti -- Firstly, I am **not** afraid of confident women... I happen to be **with** **one**. Secondly, I read your comment on my blog, and I've responded. BTW -- What, exactly, does "izetti" mean?

@randslam -- I agree with you. This so-called "man(whoever he is)" who wrote that book is a butt-kisser of post-menopausal bitter females.

@Harvey -- Amen!


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randslam 5 years ago from Kelowna, British Columbia

The gender wars are dead...the age of bitch is dead...the age of terrorism is dead.

Time to start thinking about how to enjoy our planet and turn it into a progressive, innovative place of wonder.

Hmmm, a garden of Eaten...Eden...get it? Thanks for your vote, David. One shouldn't worry about gender as it is a hit or miss kind of thing. XX or XY chromosomes...all of us could have been the opposite gender of what we are...that's why we have siblings of the opposite gender.

Nuff said.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Harvey~ the author does state that women are not as strong as men physically.

randslam~ I know what you mean, but I found it of interest and the hub drew a lot of interest so I thought it would be fun to see what people had to do. I am an instigater sometimes, but it is fun. I learn a lot about people. I too thought the gender wars were dead so I was surprised to see this book come out from left field and with a lot of publicity. I think it's entertaining, the timing of it (when women are now feeling ahead of the game), and how bold the title and premise of the book. Thanks for stopping by.

David~ I got back to you on your hub. Thanks for commenting too. "izettl" is Izett for my last name and "L" (it's not an I) for Laura.


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jayb23 5 years ago from India

Brilliant hub Izettl...I have no doubts in my mind that women r better gifted than men...you pple have the ability to bear pain and still smile which is amazing. In India we have 4 chief ministers who are women, our president is a woman and yes my boss is also a woman..Need i say more...U guls rock the world!!


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

jayb23~ thanks for the encouraging comment! You guys rock too!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Harvey, sometimes Women do save our lives by talking us out of doing something that is too dangerous.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ I can concur. Some of the risk-taking that is inherent in men (and sometimes a good trait) can also lead guys into trouble. My husband tends to jump at doing things and I reel him a little and provide the voice of reason on truly dangerous or impulsive things.

Thanks for providing a different view on that- I didn't even think about it that way. You're my new best buddy on this hub : ))


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

My pleasure, just like to see Women get fair credit!!


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Who said lizards can't be gentlemen? Thanks again.


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flamingoville 5 years ago from Charlotte, NC

Jumping in at the very last minute here....simply put, this guy(Dan Abrams) is one smart cookie! Its not that women are really better at everything guys...really, its just the fact that he had big enough balls to put it out there & say it~he figured out how we tick! Its not really about who can do what better, its letting us think we can! ;op


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Well, Flamingoville, maybe we are learning from you ladies, you have led us to believe we that we have been running the show for a long time!! LOL


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flamingoville 5 years ago from Charlotte, NC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI95f-6oRiU&feature...

Watch about 3 1/3 minutes of this clip, proof....

Gguy, its part of what we do, its how we roll! hehehe.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Flamingoville, funny stuff here!!! lol


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Flamingoville~ love that movie! But yes there are various expectations us women face and the feedback is also inconsistent whether it's family, a boss, etc. Family wants you to have babies, boss doesn't, husband does, but doesn't want to pitch in much after baby is born.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, my friend, some of us do pitch in a lot, I did at least 50% of my daughter's care for the first three months of her life since her mother was on bed rest in addition to giving my wife 3 injections a day during that time. So, some of us don't do our share, but a lot do.

I am glad that you connected with my dear friend Amy, she is talented and one of my favorite people!!


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ Is Amy "flamingoville"? My husband is great at the housework, but not so much on the child care. I think that's why he does so much cleaning house. We started bad habits. I did all the feeding and night care, etc for my daughter when she was born and she is still glued to my hip at 3 so maybe it's a case of many small children preferring mom for certain things. I'm probably generalizing but I've seen that be the case in myself and other stay-at-home moms. So any tips on getting hubby to cook??? lol, but not entirely joking.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Well I am a terrable cook, the only thing I make for dinner is reservations, so can't help you there. Flamingoville is cool and funny, but Amy is someone else I have become good friends with, you visited her elsewhere on here.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Amy Bercherer? If so, she is awesomely talented!!


waxi 5 years ago

The author of the book has improved my image of men

Waqxi

Great hub Izetti


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

THank you Waxi


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, yes that Amy, my amazing friend , hey did you hear they found an anchor today from Blackbeard's ship?


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ sorry, just answering comments now but I went on a little weekend trip so just getting back to civilization and technology- lol. Amy is very talented. I will agree with that 100%.

Pirate stuff is cool. I did not know about the anchor and will have to go look that up now. Hope you had a good weekend!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Busy weekend here!! but great weather. See men and Women can agree on some things, especially when it comes to how talented Women are!!! LOL


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Yo, Ho, Yo, Ho, I Pirates life for me!!!


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ guys are great too, especially pirates- lol.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Well Laura, I only have one thing to say to you, AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!! LOL


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W. B. Isley 5 years ago from Monett, MO

A weekend trip. Boy are you going to have fun weeding through all the comments. I hope you had fun. Have a good day.


gee dee 4 years ago

sure,women can do everything a man can do...men just do it better ! men are so sick of hearing about women empowerment. simply said,it will always be a mans world b/c men do everything.ha-ha,imagine a world w/o men... all the cities would be made of papier mache & chicken wire !


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gee dee~ entertaining comment


Jeanine 4 years ago

LOL... Geedee... I needed a good laugh and boy did you provide a belly whopper... 40% of women are out earning men now and that's with the girls only getting paid 81 cents on every dollar men are making... read it and weep Gee... you are in the past...lol... it's ok though we still love you and there is a great need for men because you all do great blue collar work...please take something so you don't get sicker, because empowerment is about education... so you will need your health, because brains must have been in short supply around your area of expertise... I can't imagine a world with men... but I can imagine a world without idiots... lol...lol...


Forshorn 4 years ago

Not to spoil the party, you retards, but Dan Abrams' book is a humor book - it's not based on research and makes no claim to be scientific. It's funny how journalists jump on topics like this and get that giddy, slumber-party tone.


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Forshorn~ hate to spoil your party but I added my own does of humor about the book and it's legitimacy- if you read the hub...doubt it. Maybe you should do al ittle less opinion in your comment and a little more reading. Of course I got that the book is humorous...but Dan did get his info from random research studies done around the world- how valid those studies are? Who knows.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

To my fellow males out there who are being mean to the ladies here, they will remember it when they rule the world, so be nice!! I read an interesting article recently of how young women are now out earning young men, it was a mainstream publication, but I think we can't put a link here?


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ i'd be intersted in that article or more info...so please post link if you get a chance. thanks.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, hope you enjoy, let me know if I can help you with anything else, hope you had a good weekend!


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

thanks gguy! yes I'll check this out. had a good weekend, a mexican food and margarita party at my house. You should have come :) Hope you've had a good weekend too.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Thanks, never got the invite, lol I am working on my pool, new patio, waterfall etc. Should be ready for Memorial Day !!


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

as i was reading the article I had a sneaky suspicion it was due to women graduating college more than men.

There is definitely a change in the workforce with less labor and manufacturing jobs and more knowledge-based jobs. Very interesting- there is a shift occuring.

I'll check out the other article too.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, I know a lot of men and women in there mid 20's and not in every case but generally, the women tend to be much more driven. All kidding aside I am really worried about males becoming a burden on society.


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ i personally think men and women equally hav something to offer, but it seems women have tried to be like men to make it in this world...and funny thing is many of them are doing a damn good job. I have a couple other hubs about this (Flaws in Feminism- A woman's perspective) and (How women forgot to be women). I see it as detrimental to both men and women because women are losing touch with what makes us women. I'm very much a take-charge (maybe alpha woman) so I thrived in the business world but it wasn't until I became a stay-at-home mom and worked part-time from home that I saw how I was neglecting my feminine side and I cherish that side of me now, but so many women are far-detached from it.

And men, like I stated in this hub, will come to the conclusion that if women can do it and even do it better...why not let them? And men are ego driven...nothing like a woman doing their job as good or better. I think many men are not sure where their place is- if wome nare becoming more like men then where do men fit in? I do see your point but for me personally I believe they have a lot to offer and we need them.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, I agree, with you, but I have seen an alarming trend, I don't know if it's all over, or where I live, it is worse, (my area is a very affluent suburb of NYC,) maybe the you guys here have a sense of entitlement, but at least 80% of the time i see the girls outperforming boys, even from the same parents/ gene pool/ upbringing.

Laura, gotta tease you a second, heard a very interesting statistic about your first name a while back, but can't talk about it here lol!!


Jeanine 4 years ago

Men Will become more creative...and thats where they will fit in....the fem male or what we call gays today are much stronger in many of the most creative jobs on the planet....


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Jeanine, interesting point, I do think we are in for some changes, since it is uncharted, we can't tell where it is leading!


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, just wanted to add, being a mother is the most important career on the planet!!


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

i live on the border of WA and OR and the women here are very career oriented and fill up most of the many nearby colleges. I even get a little discrminated against by them because they usually make some sort of comment that I've wasted my education by being a stay-at-home mom. Another thing is I work part-time from home as a freelance writer...and yes I make a monthly income doing this, but what everyone focuses on is the part about me staying home with kids like it's a downgrade in life. I'm happy to be educated and I believe it gives me an ability to teach my children and communicate with them better and it gave me confidence to do what I love...writing.

Yes, there seems to be a shift in society in general, but really wish women were gaining rank because of their inherent abilities that make them a woman, but they are gaining rank due to an ability to emmulate men.

And thank you gguy for that lovely comment about being a career mom. My husband just got a promotion at work and I thought to myself how I miss those.lol. But your comment made me feel good. thank you again.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, happy mothers day, also I have worked on projects on houses of very powerfull men and believe me, if they did not have the backing and management of the household by women, it would not be possible!! Also I do see working from home moms as a real part of the economy, lol did you ever see the ad with the woman with a business suit on top for the web cam, and pajama bottoms with the baby carrier on the floor!! lol funny but true!!


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ yes...I often do my work at home in my pajamas- thank God I don't have to do meetings or skype online. We're all just trying out these fairly new roles- women in the workforce more and men not as much, maybe even at home. Right now 2 of my friends are the breadwinners and their husbands stay home. Interesting turn of events nowadays.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura I do know several people in the same situation also, it will be interesting to see how it all turns out, I do have to admit, I have a cruel side to see how a small number of my gender reacts to what if scenarios, but I think most of us are willing to talk about what are really unprecidented times! There is some talk that "girl" empowerment may have left some young men behind, and the Females are smarter. This could be serious.


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

gguy~ its strange women were going for equality but now the aim almost seems for overpowering empowerment. I think men and women both offer unique assets to our society and in relationships and/or within the family.

I heard an author of some feminism type book state that marriage has changed more in the last 30 years than in the last 300 years....I believe it's this way with gender in society as well


gguy 4 years ago

Laura, heard the tail end of something on the radio, about a survey of young women in the UK, That they placed getting married and having children very low on their "to do lists". Just from a demographic stand point, this could have serios implications on western society.


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gguy 4 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, another interesting point, over the last few decades, Womens Empowerment has become very popular, but we as men have been conditioned that if we took a similar stance, it would sound threatening to women, if women, are in fact largely the new leaders, will men and women still largly maintain this point of view, or will that slowly reverse itself as we (men) try to play catch up?


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Darkproxy 3 years ago from Ohio

Where did he get his sources and tell me what proof you have that women are better at enduring pain? I mean I've been shot set on fire and many other vets have lost limbs and then women who serve well they join the military and are protected have less complaints of pain from wounds is a bit stupid of an argument I mean seriously its bullshit


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Darkproxy~ I agree. I was kind of taking on the satirical point of view here. His book is based on studies around the world, but anyone can find studies to back up whatever they want to say. It's sort of funny. On pain...well I'm not sure if we can prove anything there cause I've never been shot or set on fire and you've never given birth...twice. I'm just happy we both survived.


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Darkproxy 3 years ago from Ohio

well I honestly don't see how handling pain makes a person superior, I mean what about all those guys into being whipped till they are raw? Also most of his so called studies are unfounded or the variables to his studies are not mentioned because it would make the findings irrelevant. I covered female superiority in a satirical way as well although not based on this book.


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rjbatty 3 years ago from Irvine

Wow. What a bunch of poppycock.

Because women lack the ability to differentiate between their emotions and difficult situations presented to them, they make judgments based on a poor facsimile of male impartiality. Women are not guided by unbiased logic, and, in my mind, this makes them the inferior of the species. In other words, women are unable to discern their emotions from a particular event in their past and thus draw conclusions drawn on the unconscious, which is chock full of unresolved personal conflict, wounded feelings, and an unavoidable sense of inferiority.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

rjbatty~ this hub was based on a book written as to spark some conversation...so it's not what I consider fact nor do I expect you too either. However, you don't need to tear down the opposite sex to make your point. And what you have stated is also not fact. Fact is, emotions can be valuable when making decisions. You bought your car that way, you chose your partner that way, we make some of the most important decisions, emotionally. I'm guessing you are male...and I struck an emotion in you I'm guessing by your reponse. Male female has nothing to do with emotions. Women currently make better managers because they consider emotions. Gone are the days when men ruled with an iron fist and a final word. lol. Your feelings sound as if they were wounded by this hub and you had the need to retaliate with words against women. Men tend not to feel a full range of emotions, which in my mind makes them at the disadvantage because many various emotions get strung into one category for them, usually anger and testosterone has made them poorer drivers and have worse judgment with knee jerk reactions.

Sorry for making you go "batty" rjbatty.


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gguy 3 years ago from new jersey usa

jrbatty, I do not like it when I see a friend get insulted, a bit of light hearted fun to bring up an interesting subject is always good, you have a right to your opinion, but be respectful to my friends and the other gender.

Reality is that there is no way to measure which gender is superior, both have advantages and disadvantages, but I do think Women have been under valued in a number of fields.

Do yourself a favor, Google Female versus male hedge fund managers, and you may find an interesting fact on the rate of return.


Mattywilliams 3 years ago

I agree and disagree with this...I think by and large both sexes are equal in general intelligence....But I think men are the more rational/logical sex on average (not that there aren't very logical women as there are...but on average men are more logical)....I mean men didn't become the dominant sex out of the blue....There are reasons why men have historically always dominated over women and I don't buy the "It's because men are more aggressive" nonsense....Some of the qualities that were more prevalent in the male and less prevalent in the female have helped us to become the dominant sex and some have to do with intellectual abilities....Just my opinion but I don't think men would have rose to dominant status throughout all of history if we were so intellectually inferior to women.

Some of these are just flat out ridiculous through.....Women do not have higher pain tolerance than men...That is just absurd....1 day at a boxing gym/army boot camp will tell you that. Men can take alot more pain than women can.....probably because of the testosterone level difference.

I agree that women have much better verbal abilities/social skills (there are TONS of socially retarded men who can't even hold a 5 minute conversation) and are better with words/learning foreign languages in general where as men tend to be a little more number oriented and creatively/logically I think men are a bit superior (at-least in the past men were).

Social/People skills are becoming more and more important in this ever interconnected globalized modern world...So I think women are going to hold a big advantage in the future...Where as building stuff, factory work etc etc are becoming less and less important....Maybe the male era is coming to an end??

As for the gamblers part...Maybe because women would be smarter gamblers but I think generally men are much more competition oriented


Mattywilliams 3 years ago

So yea I do think men are alittle superior lol.....


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Darkproxy 3 years ago from Ohio

Why is it when women want to cite some form of documented superiority to men they go to a man who is pretty much a failure at his educated task and he uses bogus research methods to back his statement. Which is almost always debunked by men in the same field that are more credited and better scientists


Mattywilliams 3 years ago

Oh and there's this!! This guy is a BOSS lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM


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gguy 3 years ago from new jersey usa

Mattywilliams, all interesting points here, but not so sure about women being less competitive though, since society still measures things by male standards. Women I do think are at least equal here, just compete differently. I small joke here, lol ever see women at a high end department store during a major shoe sale? lol now that is competitive!


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Mattywilliams, I think women are superior in communication. I don't know any men that communicate effectively...they either leave out important details or use a lot of generalizations whereas women are detail oriented.

Inventions and intellectual accomplishments may have been reigned by men in the past because women did not have access to science labs while staying at home with kids or not working outside home or forbidden in certain areas of work dominated by men. Things are changing. Luckily women still try and put their family first, meaning that somebody raised the more successful men you are talking about...certainly wasn't a stay at home dad. Lol.

Things are changing as women dominate the college populations.

The biggest issue for women is multitasking. Unfortunately if we have kids, we will spend most of our lives multitasking...working, raising kids, going to school, keeping up a house. All my husband does is certain house chores and go to work. I work part time at home, raise kids at home full time, make appointments, cook, clean, make sure everyone goes to apts. and keeps up with schedule. I make the world go round, I just don't get the credit as men do on something scholarly, etc. but as more women are raising kids by themselves, the world is ran and raised by women literally.

Men are more logical. Yeah right. Lol. I talk through my issues and honestly I don't know any one man who doesn't yell or have some anger issues when deeply provoked. Men act first and think later...often as creautures of testosterone. Men definitely have more stupid, illogical accidents. I'm not sure but I don't recall the Jackass movies being made up of women. Nope, just stupid men. They get into more car accidents and die sooner, especially now that obesity epidemic has risen in men but remains steady for women over the past decade or so.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Matty, more on that multi tasking. It's not good for either sex and usually women are automatically assigned that role because frankly men stink at it. Men who are good at something are only good at that, you'll see that's true.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Dark proxy, you are an excellent example of my point above to Matty in that men are not more logical...ran by anger and tempers and driven by testosterone. You make comments based on hate and not once have I ever discouraged it but frankly it's not raising men up by putting women down. I made light of this hub when I wrote it and did nothing to tear down men. I found the book cited here amusing. That's it.

"Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can".

You will always see me write or state that men and women are equally valuable, maybe in various aspects. This is what makes a marriage work too. building on each others strengths. I also preach that the world measures on male standards so women and feminists are fighting like men and wanting to be measured by that. Sounds like you are doing the same. You are fighting like a feminist basically. Strange coming from you. I want women and will fight for women to have value as women, not so much competition for and with men. Men are great at certain things and women superior in others. But the world and feminists and people like you and Matty still want to compare apples and oranges. Whatever floats your boat, I also build up men and see where they are losing their place. As long as people like you and Matty see the need to "put women in their place" women will be competing with men and ultimately are winning.

Matty and proxy, If men are so logical then why are they the ones shooting up places and reign the prisons?


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gguy 3 years ago from new jersey usa

Laura, hope all is well, hope you did not mind my joke in my last comment,I always enjoy reading your opinions, I really do think a big problem with some of my gender is that they tend to measure women by their own standards, which may not apply when it comes to many things, like you said comparing apples to oranges. Have a great day!


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samowhamo 3 years ago

Men are more logical. Yeah right. Lol. I talk through my issues and honestly I don't know any one man who doesn't yell or have some anger issues when deeply provoked. Men act first and think later...often as creautures of testosterone. Men definitely have more stupid, illogical accidents. I'm not sure but I don't recall the Jackass movies being made up of women. Nope, just stupid men. They get into more car accidents and die sooner, especially now that obesity epidemic has risen in men but remains steady for women over the past decade or so.

Well izettl if you want my honest opinion I think both genders are illogical the human species at the core is a scared, ignorant, fragile animal. I have heard of men doing stupid things but I have also heard of women doing stupid things an example of a man doing something stupid would be a man saying something to offend his wife and then expect her to give him sex and an exapmle of a woman doing something stupid would Valerie Salonas SCUM Manifesto that says men are a biological mistake the nerves are connected to the penis and that men are not needed for anything. And as for women being better leaders well that depends on the woman I have met people both men and women who have had experiences with horrible female leaders same with being smarter better looking and pain tolerance that all depends on the individual. So at the core human nature is human nature and what gender you are does not change that. On a side note one of the comments said women are better at suicide actually it's been statistically proven that men commit suicide more often.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Gguy, happy to have you in the comment section any time. Joking is fine too. I believe you are one of few guys who can objectively view the two sexes. Yes guys and feminists alike have compared women by men's standards. I have a real problem with that because who can like or appreciate their main competition? It shouldn't be a competition...apple as and oranges... And both are good, but taste completely different, and both provide different benefits as well. Thanks for stopping by.

Sam, women have a higher rate of depression. suicide, not sure but various studies will probably have various results. I've had both good and bad female and male bosses. When I had kids, I would rather work for a woman because men tend to be low on empathy or the ability to think of a working moms needs. Working moms are a growing population.

Some of the new leadership qualities being valued in business now are qualities of women.

Your examples of women and men are extremely subjective. I know both you and dark proxy have had bad experiences but we need to look at this issue as objective as possible or it does turn into hate. Those extreme feminists are all about hate and if you think like them, but for the opposite sex, then you are like them.

Personally I'm not too hot on the way the country is being ran. Could women do better? Not sure. Plenty of countries have done well under women leaders. Our country would otherwise deny, but is still clouded with hate. Sometimes I think because we are to tolerate everyone and have so many types of people living in one country. I live in a diverse neighborhood, but notice that the Romanians do not talk with the Russians or the Asians and Asians do not talk to blacks. Funny that those from other countries can be like that but not Americans. We must tolerate to the point we hate passive aggressively or plain out hate crimes.

And pain tolerance, I'm going to pretend you didn't say that. After giving natural birth to two kids, I don't expect men to have anything to compare with...and that's ok. I'm not going to expect men to understand.

I've always been interested in gender. My dad is a transsexual male to female and of course I wondered why men want to be women or why anyone would choose their opposite sex. Men can't possibly know what it's like tot be a woman. My dad has full female body now and to me tht still doesn't make him a woman. Being a woman is much more than a body.thinking a body makes you your gender is a very male mentality.


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samowhamo 3 years ago

I am not trying to think like them and I apologise if I sometimes come off like that I am not trying to sound hatefull or anything like that and I am deeply sorry if I have said anything to offend anyone. And when I said pain tolerance I was not refering to just the pains of child I dont doubt what you say about child birth I am sure it is quite painfull but I was refering to pain in general and again I did not mean to say anything offensive and if I did I am deeply sorry.


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samowhamo 3 years ago

I have written four articles on sexism towards men I am going to stop writing about that now I think I have written all I need to write on that subject. I am going back to writing things I actually enjoy and as I said before I apologise if I said anything offensive izettl I did not mean to please forgive me if I have.


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samowhamo 3 years ago

Oh izettl just curious are people allowed to write there own biography's and life stories on here I sometimes think about doing that but I would like to know if anyone else on here does it.


jeanine 3 years ago

Interesting conversation... a woman is a good thang..well well... good thang. ang ang... well well... .lol...lol...


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Sam~ I just didn't want you to unknowingly get caught up in the hate of feminists. There are as many men who literally hate women in general too. I don't like either group and I think they obviously cause more problems than help the situation. I think the truly uneducated hate...because they don't know what else to do. Just my opinion...

Sam, your articles are amazing whether about dinosaurs or sexism, but you are proably like me when you are writing and get caught up in what you are writing about. I have to take a break from some subjects like during the elections I read and wrote on politics and it was depressing me, just bumming me out. I had to take a break, same with relationship issues or any other deep topic. Do some stuff you enjoy and take a break sometimes. You're an excellent addition to hubpages and I started on here writing about childhood with my dad who was a crossdresser when I was a kid. I think any info out there for others, even if only one person is helped by it, or knows that someone else knows their situation or thinks like them, is helpful. I also appreciate your honesty in the comment section so dont filter what you want to say. Honesty is m,y policy- I hardly ever hold back either.


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samowhamo 3 years ago

Thank you izettl for your advice I would rather ask you these things because I cant get any straight answers on the internet everybody is always saying things like feminism is about hate others say no it's not there always having arguments about political correctness about how sex has to be changed or gotten rid of to make it more equal how motherhood roles are a social construct how we need to find another way to produces children besides pregnancy adn procreation I just cant get any straight answers from these people. Well anyway I have written the first part of my biography if you are interested as usual comments are allowed and appreciated. :)

http://samowhamo.hubpages.com/hub/My-Biography-Par...


Mattywilliams 3 years ago

Men are more logical than Women are imo.....But it's also harder in general to be a man so it's a trade off...Women live longer...a larger percentage of them reproduce compared to men...don't have to make good money to attract a mate...have favorable laws in the courts etc etc etc

As for men thinking with testosterone and anger....yea maybe but that's not a bad thing generally not to mention women are attracted to it. They like forceful anger/aggression etc....Obviously to much testosterone thinking is a very bad thing but a man needs a healthy amount of it.

The fact that men commit almost all crime has nothing to do with logic/lack of logic....nor does it mean that women are more kind/compassionate/moralistic etc etc etc than men are (well maybe SLIGHTLY they are).....Men commit almost also crime because A.) they have much more to gain and much less to lose by not following guidelines/laws set by society...B.) They have the balls/courage to take the risks in doing it...Every notorious criminal in history has gotten female attention (obviously these women were crazy but still).....A women would not take the risks involved in robbing a bank but they sure as hell would sleep with a bank robber (obviously these aren't normal healthy women...and are crazy but still)

"but as more women are raising kids by themselves, the world is ran and raised by women literally."

Yea which is a disaster for society and men in general.....All it will do is feminize men/raise them to act emasculated/weak which will then hurt them badly when they try to attract a women......which will then eventually make them lonely/sad/depressed after they can't get any girls to like them......which will eventually lead to rage=outburst against society....and on rare occasions extreme violence

Feminization/Emasculation of men LEADS to violence in many instances (most people would think that sounds ridiculous but it's true)....Alot of people think it's the opposite (and sometimes it is like in the ultra masculine Black Ghetto community) but like I said earlier every one of these rampage killers have felt emasculated/humiliated before their attacks....and has used violence to overcompensate....In general raising a man to be "overly brutal and masculine or overly girly and sensitive" often leads to violence....Best to reach for a middle ground...and raise him to be compassionate but also proudly and distinctly masculine and male..... but as more and more men become feminized due to single mom upbringings yet Women still remain deeply attracted to confident masculine men....well expect for some violent outbreaks.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Sam~ you'll never get a straight answer from someone on either extreme side or the other. For example I consider myself republican/conservative for the most part and my mom is as well. However, she is extreme and listens to all one-sided talk radio and programs that are conservative- would I get all my info or even listen to her on the subject? No. I don't like extremes- life is a grey area, not black or white. In psychology one of the most damaging things to people is what they call all-or-nothing thinking. People start doing that and it makes them depressed, etc.

Matty~ I agree society is going to hell and part of it is women raising kids alone. It is also a combination of men not stepping up too. They somehow slink away from their responsibilities. And women are now more confident and able to raise kids alone, making it more likely for them to leave. Wwith my first baby I almost left my husband- I didn't need to deal with his tantrums and my daughter's too. Maybe it's too much for them, etc. Kids are a lot of work and then when that happens you have a woman who is pissed at men in general for the rest of her life. My husband's mom is one of them. His dad was never in the picture other then to hold him a couple times when he was born. But his mom is anti-men and the worst part is she kept chosing good-for-nothing guys os it went on to reaffirm her negative outlook on them.

Men, more than women, need a role model. Having a son myself and knowing moms with sons, the little boys tend to copy behavior and their dads. I don't see this with my daughter- she is very much her own person. But I've also heard in other fields of study that in general it is a good idea that men have someone they can look up to. They are visual and they do copy what they see. So you have some single moms who hate men and then little boys who can't understand why they,or men, should be hated. They grow up with a lack of self-esteem. It wouldn't be natural to hate themselves but they see their moms hating men. Sad.

I think we need to take boys on a case by case basis. Nothing wrong with a sensitive man. My dad was a sensistive boy and his father kept making him do manly stuff to the extreme, like shooting the family dog when it was ill, but my dad was only 7. Or joining the army when he wanted to attend college instead and he liked writing poetry (he woldn't have been the first man to write poetry!). But his dad persisted...My dad had to shoot people in vietnam. My dad ended up being a transsexual, a woman. I think the early pressure of what it mean to be a man was too much for a sensitive boy. case by case for sure. It doesn't mean a sensitive boy will be gay or a transsexual but if encouraged in the right way could be a great sensitive writer like Nicolas Sparks. lol. You get my point. It shouldn't be black or white. I love a manly man with a sensitive side!

By society, the pendulum has swung. we went from over masculizing men to feminizing them. It really needs to be in between. Over masculizing men leads to anger- anger is expressed when someone doesn't know how to express other feelings. They feel sad so it becomes anger, they feel frustrated so it becomes anger. Anger doesn't turn me on. an alpha male is constructive with that anger and is still able to use his sensibilities and brain during that time. Then there are men who see red when angry- they will get nowhere with that, well, trouble.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

The feminization of men is not purely intentional either. As women are working as much as men, they need assistance with house chores, womanly duties, with the kids ,etc. Men are doing more "women's work" than ever, and really out of necessity. Women can't do it all anymore due to working outside the home.


Bcrouch 3 years ago

Aye, this is completely true, but the crux is the female bell curve is more intelligent overall, yet narrower. In other words, women may be smarter on average, but the majority of the very smartest (and dumbest) people are male.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Bcrouch~ yeah I believe that. THanks for stopping by.


Bcrouch 3 years ago

If you're interested, I can look up the bell curve. It's actually quite fascinating - there's this little hump down in the Forrest Gump region. Turns out there's a common mutation in the Y chromosome that makes the condition depressingly common.


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samowhamo 3 years ago

I don't know if this is the right place to post this comment but did you know in the UK there are groups that are trying to abolish women's prisons and send female criminals to therapy. Do they realize what kind of uproar they would get from people if they did that the justice system there would be pretty much no good giving people the perfect excuse to take the law into their own hands.


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samowhamo 3 years ago

I am not sure but I think the reason they want to abolish women's prisons in the UK is because from what I hear female convicts in the UK often suffer from depression well I don't mean this to sound uncaring but that's not an excuse to be let out of prison no one wants to go to prison but if you break the law then you have to do time these women choose to steal, murder, rape, and molest children.


Mattty 3 years ago

No women are not smarter on average according to the bell curve...Every tests has shown that men score about 5 IQ points higher on average than women do....The gap is narrowing but it is still present. And logically men are 10101010101019098101802382301 times better than women. Women are emotionally driven creatures....men are rational

But you are right that women have more of an even distribution across the bell curve...With almost all the genius level scores being men but also all the really low scores being men aswell


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Matty,

without fact checking, I can probably say I agree with you. I'm sure you're right. I think women thrive in various areas where men don't and vice versa. I also think the human race would be better if they left the competition aspect out of it and of course, I made light of this book in my hub, because we don't need anybody else contributing to the competition between men and women. As I've always said, both sexes are fundamental!

Bcrouch,

Interesting stuff. Thanks for stopping by.

Sam,

that's absolutely crazy, and women are just as deserving to serve time as men. If you do the crime...


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samowhamo 3 years ago

I recetly read an article about gender imbalance in some countries and one of the commenters (I dont know if it was a man or woman) said this (No doubt there is imbalance but men want to treat women as slaves and torture and kill them for their greedyness) I dont know if they were talking about all men or some men but as usual they are making genralizations that I as a man find offensive it seems that even on hubpages there are idiots.


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samowhamo 3 years ago

If you are interested in reading that article here's the link.

http://hubpages.com/education/Countries-with-More-...


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samowhamo 3 years ago

There was this one woman who even said this.

NO WOMEN MORE STRONG THAN MEN IN EVERY ASPECTS

And what proof does this women have that women are greater then men the only thing great I have seen about women like this (not all women) is how manipulative, conniving, stupid, and ignorant they are.


aincas 3 years ago from uk

very interesting hub and interesting comments!

my girlfriend bought me this book - at first I thought it was just a joke, but infact it is all based on facts and research. certainly hurts the pride abit reading it! But its time males woke up!

I am a manager in a busy office and over the years have employed hundreds of people and you soon start to realise that in general females are far bettter to hire than males.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Thanks aincas!


Patrick 3 years ago

Women are better at EVERYTHING! Sounds like an objective book to me. Just the tone of it screams authority, doesn't it?

I haven't read the book, nor will I. I don't doubt he's amassed a wealth of statistics from real studies. Yawn. I do doubt that women are better at EVERYTHING. Just think about that. Does that even sound realistic. An objective reader would ask "What did the studies show men are better at?" Nothing, right? I doubt it. It's clearly a one-sided agenda laden rag. And no, I'm not trying to protect my fragile male ego - just trying to inject a little objectivity.

Could we not amass a bunch of statistics to show that men are better at many things than women. If you say no, then you've got an agenda. Of course we could (and no I haven't bothered to waste my time doing so). The thing is nobody would publish it. Every women's group in the country would be calling for their heads on a platter.

It's very hip these days to write books like this: Man Down, Manning Up, The Decline of Men, The End of Men...and the list goes on. Could you imagine anyone giving a man a platform to shout "Men are better than women?" Nope. Wouldn't happen. But we find it funny when women do it to men. For some reason we really get off on it.

Let's grow up, boys and girls. This school yard argument is getting very tiring.


Anonymous 3 years ago

All misandrists are the same, telling flat out lies like "boys are NATURALLY stupid, if you wished to do anything right you should have been a girl!"


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Patrick, Not only did you not read the book but you didn't read my hub either. Shame on you. Are women better readers? You may be out to prove that one true. Or are we better at comprehension of material read? You could prove that one true too.

You stated, "If you say no then you've got an agenda too". If you read it you'd know I'm poking fun at this book. I really don't take it seriously. In fact I have other hubs that build men up, try to shake sense into women that we do need men, and take a realistic look at feminism. I'm on your side buddy so you don't have to jump to far to your conclusions.

As a former researcher in psychology, I do not take studies seriously. You can find any study to support any idea or notion you have. But I open it up to discussion- that's what a blog is. That's what my hubs are.

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