What To Do If Your Neighbours Are Bogans

There is nothing worse than that sinking feeling you get when you realise bogans have moved in next door. They won’t shut up, clean up or leave you alone.

But there are a few things you can do to make your life easier (and theirs harder) without resorting to setting their house alight or hiring a gang of bikies to deal with them.

Sorting out issues with bogans can involve a minefield of disturbance if you follow the usual protocol of talking to them or interacting with them in any other way but anonymously. Your presence is best unnoticed by them for your own peace of mind.

A bogan infestation is the last thing you want in your neighbourhood.
A bogan infestation is the last thing you want in your neighbourhood.

What Is A Bogan?

A bogan is a person with a lack of manners, respect and education. The word "bogan" is derogatory Australian slang - in the USA, bogans are like hillbillies.

Bogans are usually low grade socio economic people who are lazy, unsophisticated idiots.

They aren't interested in improving themselves and can be irritating nuisance neighbours. Some people think they should be transported to the local tip so they can live their lives in surroundings that are more appropriate to their needs.

What you'll see if you look over the fence.
What you'll see if you look over the fence.
Bogans like to live in a landfill environment.
Bogans like to live in a landfill environment.
Small rubbish pile in a bogan backyard.
Small rubbish pile in a bogan backyard.
An example of the typical bogan caravan.
An example of the typical bogan caravan.

Are Your Neighbours Bogans?

Here are a few of the telltale signs:

  • There is an old caravan/tent/shipping container or other structure in their backyard and someone appears to be living in it.
  • You hear loud domestic arguments involving yelling and screaming.
  • There is a lot of rubbish and/or hoarding of junk, and the place could be more accurately defined as a settlement instead of a house.
  • They like to own big hairy yapping or barking dogs, which either keep you awake at nights from the noise or escape the settlement and terrorise the neighbourhood regularly.
  • They may have crying babies who never seem to stop crying. They also have a huge collection of decrepit prams.
  • They may have screaming children who kick fences, stay up very late or like to spy on you and who seem to play on disgusting, broken down play equipment.
  • They have moody teenagers with noisy cars that never move off the lawn. Or they’re into motorbikes that they like to run at 1am.
  • You can hear them constantly throwing tinnies and spirit bottles into their bins.
  • They love to hold loud parties and BBQs late at night, which involve lots of yelling, shouting, loud music, dogs barking, bonfires, motorbikes and more tinnies being thrown into bins.
  • Bogans provide the right conditions for breeding plagues of vermin, which start invading your property after a few months.
  • If they mow the lawn, it isn't very often.

Some bogans are just plain disgusting.
Some bogans are just plain disgusting.
Over the years, a half-finished construction project can turn into an enormous mess.
Over the years, a half-finished construction project can turn into an enormous mess.
Bogans just can't seem to finish things.
Bogans just can't seem to finish things.

The Bogan Personality

Bogans think they are poverty stricken, and they ARE, because they spend all their money on cigarettes, alcohol, fast food, loud parties, keeping large dogs and building half finished renovation structures.

They often have big construction and renovation plans that never get completed, and these are allowed to remain in an untidy heap or half finished (usually without council approval) as an eyesore to remind them that they’ll get round to finishing it one day. That day will never come.

Bogans always seem to be having a rough life and the reason for this is their disorganisation. You can be sure that if their house or yard is a mess that they are also dealing with overdue bills, accidents that could’ve been avoided, intermittent employment issues, parking and speeding fines, unwanted pregnancies, drug problems, domestic violence and so on. In other words, all the things you don’t want in your life.

These people have a chip on their shoulder and are fiercely protective of their beliefs, particularly if they are unreasonable or ridiculous beliefs that they’ve hung on to for far too many years.

Anyone who interrupts their daydreams or questions their lifestyle can expect an over-the-top retribution, which may range from graffiti and damage to your property, to poisoned pets, violence threatened against you and rubbish thrown over your fence.

Would you want to have a nice, neighbourly chat with these people?
Would you want to have a nice, neighbourly chat with these people?

What Councils Recommend

When you phone your local council to complain about the barking dogs/the mess/the illegal structures/the noise etc, your council will probably advise you to go and have a little chat with these people, in a friendly, neighbourly type of way.

What the council doesn’t understand is that these people are angry and unreasonable idiots, usually with mental problems and that their first reaction is to get angry and retaliate, should anyone try to talk to them.

The council assumes that they will listen and reason with you, which is a big mistake. They won’t. Otherwise they would have paid attention to the hundreds of other people before you, who have no doubt also tried to assist them in seeing the error of their ways.

If you stay out of their way, you won't have to worry about angry bogans attacking you.
If you stay out of their way, you won't have to worry about angry bogans attacking you.
Bogan women in particular seem to need to vent their rage on the poor locals.
Bogan women in particular seem to need to vent their rage on the poor locals.
More noisy dogs that belong to bogans.
More noisy dogs that belong to bogans.

Making Contact

It is not advisable to approach bogans directly, for two reasons.

Firstly, bogans already have a chip on their shoulder, so they think you are part of the wider world which has it in for them. If you reach out, you will be the one they remember when they feel angry about the neighbourhood because you were the silly one who introduced yourself when everyone else laid low.

Secondly, bogans are fiercely protective of their perceived “rights”. Anyone who questions these can expect a raging argument, followed by unsavoury behaviour or clan wars towards you that can carry on for months or even years.

The best way to contact a bogan about an issue is not to contact them in person at all.

A good approach is to simply type an anonymous letter from a “concerned resident of the area”, stating the issue, advice on how to fix it and thanking them very much for doing so.

Drop it in their mailbox when no one is home and give it a few days to work. If nothing improves during a reasonable timeframe, then contact the council for action. Tell the council your concerns about potential violence being inflicted on you and your property and see what they offer.

Another bogan relaxes after a hard day’s drinking.
Another bogan relaxes after a hard day’s drinking.

Other Potential Solutions

If the council will not help without causing a big fuss about you meeting the bogans and (unwisely) introducing your issue with them to them, then more drastic action may be needed.

You can remove yourself from the situation or try to remove the bogans from your view.

  • You can ignore the bogans or put up a huge high fence to block them out. You may even want to invest in your own shipping container, which can be placed near the bogan fence and be turned into a useful gardening shed.
  • You can move house, if you are tired of living there anyway.
  • You can rent out your house to someone else and make it their problem.

View of a bogan backyard.
View of a bogan backyard.
Be glad you aren't the landlord of a bogan.
Be glad you aren't the landlord of a bogan.
A bogan garden statue.
A bogan garden statue.
An example of old, broken play equipment.
An example of old, broken play equipment.

Vote Now!

What type of bogan problem do you have?

  • Too much noise
  • Too much rubbish
  • Their kids are annoying
  • The baby won't shut up
  • The dogs won't shut up
  • Their illegal structure is an eyesore
  • Unsavoury types hanging around
  • Other
  • None - yet...
  • None - I am lucky and don't have bogans living near me
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What To Do If You Feel Angry

Revenge is a dish best served effectively, so here are some ideas to return the favour and give the bogans a taste of their own medicine, while alleviating your rage:

  • Throw loud parties at night, inviting all your friends to come and have an alcoholic relaxation session in the backyard at your place. Put on some deafening music that you know your bogan neighbours will hate when everyone’s drunk. But only play one loud song, followed by some quiet time, then repeat. This avoids cops being called to your house and guarantees the bogans get less sleep.
  • Do a house swap for a few weeks with a musician. Tell the musician they can play their instrument anytime and anywhere, especially in the garden.
  • Honk your car horn in the wee hours of the morning if you drive past their house.
  • Borrow some large, noisy dogs and encourage them to bark by leaving them outside at night.
  • Borrow some kids and encourage them to climb and peer over the fence and to see what the neighbours are doing and report it to you.
  • Pay or bribe or volunteer for a moody teenager you know to organise a large all-night house party with their friends in your backyard.
  • Do your weeding and throw the weeds over the bogan fence.
  • Collect a bucket of vermin, kill it and dump it on the bogan's front doorstep.
  • Collect your junk mail for three months. Then post it in the bogan mailbox.
  • Bogans like to sleep in, so start up your mower at the earliest legal hour on the weekend or after they’ve had one of their parties.
  • Learn to play the drums – as close as possible to the bogans for maximum noise impact!
  • If all else fails, you can always write a funny blog diary about life near the bogans. Take photos of their mess and describe their antics as a genuine true story. Circulate it online.

DISCLAIMER: Please note that these are only suggestions and the author will not be held liable for any consequences arising from these actions.

© 2014 Suzanne Day

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billybuc 2 years ago from Olympia, WA

The pictures are absolutely priceless. I was laughing all the way through this, and praying to God that these people never move in next door. Thanks for the laugh my friend and have a wonderful weekend.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

Thanks Billybuc. I wrote this because I actually do live near some bogans and their dogs are a menace. I also know lots of people with this problem. When I did the letter drop, it actually worked, so thought I might be able to help others who are experiencing the joys of intrustive bogan behaviour.


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FlourishAnyway 2 years ago from USA

Oh, this is good, Suzanne! I was unfamiliar with the term "bogan" but definitely understand "redneck" or "hillbilly" or similar terms. I've lived near some of them from time to time as a renter but luckily was able to move. This was hilarious and the photos only made it more so! Voted way way up!


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blueheron 2 years ago from Odessa, MO

You have just described my whole town to a T. We should change the name of the place to Bougainvillea. Personally, I kind of like Bogans and find it freeing to live near them. I can smoke little cigars, wear Carharts EVERYWHERE, and do carpentry in the front room if I want. I used to have plenty of my own construction debris around, but my "white trash pile," as the kids called it, has been replaced by some hostas. I learned to cuss uninhibitedly from my neighbors. My pronunciation and diction has been pretty well ruint.

If you hear them cussing all they way from across the holler, you could just holler back for them to can it.But the best way to converse with Bogans safely (around here) is to attend City Council meetings, or Plans and Zoning Committee meetings. In a town full of Bogans, you usually have a city government that is trying to do something about them driving around in four-wheelers tearinng up the roads and endangering the chickens and stray dogs. Bogans--and their adversaries--are often well represented at such meetings.

Other things you can do: Play loud classical music--or some Celtic music or something, all night long. Get yourself a mean goose. (The Emden goose is very large and mean, and highly territorial.) Start a city or neighborhood website where people can gripe about others by name. We have two in my city, because there are two factions, in particular, that hate each other.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

Hi Blueheron,

It can be quite an education in swearing living near bogans, and I'm glad you got rid of your white trash pile - it can be quite intimidating to look at it when you're the owner.

The council meetings in your town sound quite amusing - council meetings here aren't nearly as much fun, although the bogan problem is a big problem in the middle of Melbourne, Australia (still befuddled as to why the bogans want to live in a crowded capital city which is very expensive).

Anyway, the classical music thing definitely works but I haven't tried geese before. I'm learning something new about bogans every day, though have lived near quite a number of them.

Thank you for your interest and it was enlightening to read your tale!


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@FlourishAnyway, glad you liked it - it's quite funny to reminisce with bogan stories when you don't have to live amongst them (unless you love it like Blueheron!) Thanks for your support. x


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Jodah 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

Haha Suzanne, I can definitely relate to this. For a start, the rural community where I live is called Ballogie, so in fact everyone around here are "Ballogans"...lol. We mostly live on 40 acre blocks so fortunately the neighbours houses aren't too close, but the description of the 'bogans' fit so many people out her. Many live in owner built unapproved sheds and have caravans and containers as part of their accommodation.

One of our neighbours lives in a shed with a dirt floor, and just toss their rubbish out the window so it piles up against the outside walls. To clean the floor, they just hose it out. The eldest son and his girl friend live in a caravan without windows and they are always getting raided for growing "weed". They drive unregistered cars and have old car bodies all over their property. They also have a whisky still and the father had an accident one day while using it and set fire to his beard. The kids do ride a motor bike around, sometimes all day and late at night until they run out of fuel as well.

That being said they never bother us in person. We have never had anything stolen etc. A lot of friends out here have much worse problems with their neighbours. Great hub, loved the pics (I know some of those people). Voted up.

John(the Ballogan)

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Danida 2 years ago from London

Wow, sounds like you really hate bogans! I tend to have problems with my neighbors. They are TOO noisy, their baby won't shut up, and they smoke all the time so I can't open the windows to let fresh air in.

I wish people would act more civilised.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@Jodah, the rubbish pile sounds gross and could be a rat magnet - thankfully it doesn't sound like it's too close to your property! What a cracker about the father setting fire to his beard, he'll be telling that one for a few years ;) Thanks for sharing.

@Danida, I don't really hate bogans at all - just bad bogan neighbours. Having recently been kept up all night for a week from barking dogs, I wanted to vent and hence wrote this hub! I know of others with issues arising from living near bogans, so thought they might find this funny/useful. Having said all this, I do enjoy Housos and the stories of what the bogans get up to in their lives can be very entertaining (though glad it isn't me experiencing it!)


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blueheron 2 years ago from Odessa, MO

I've lived in the country among Bogans, and in the suburbs among the corporate clones. I prefer the Bogans. In the suburbs you are afflicted by people who view your garden as an eyesore. When friends come to visit and park an older car out front, they call the cops to report a "suspicious vehicle." When you clean out your garage on a Sunday, they report you for putting out the trash before trash pick-up day. When the single mom across the street can't keep her back yard mowed to their satisfaction, "someone" reports her to the city. When neighbor in a snowy white jogging suit stops to chat, she will be reduced to hyserics if your dog greets her with dirty paws. You will have neighbors who will sit at your kitchen table tearfully demanding that you keep your cat indoors, because it's been picking on their cat.

I'd rather have my neighbors' canines stop by for a visit sometimes. And I don't mind the occasional gunfire in the city limits because someone has spotted a varmint. (Most recently a bobcat.) I enjoy hearing the neighbors' roosters crowing and the sound of chainsaws in the distance. I really enjoy an occasional beer-soaked barbeque. I love it when someone offers me a beer at the swimming beach--even if it's from the woman who's swimming topless, or her husband, the tattooed man.

Some people are just not suited for city life. I guess I'm one of them.


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Jodah 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

Good one blue heron, love the points you raise. I'm with you there. We always wake to the sound of our own rooster crowing, and there are often chainsaws or generators in the distance. Funny thing about bogans. They are often the first to help if your car breaks down or you need assistance.


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Writer Fox 2 years ago from the wadi near the little river

I hope these are not really pictures of your neighbors! Voted up and funny.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

No real pics of the neighbours here, though I was tempted! Funny you should say that Jodah about the assistance thing - it's been long known that the group which gives the most to charity are low income earners. Whether these tend to be bogans or poor people feeling compassionate is unknown...


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blueheron 2 years ago from Odessa, MO

Bogans, for the most part, are probably displaced rural people--probably doing fine until the family farm went into foreclosure or the construction boom dried up, leaving their rural communities to wither on the vine. So they move to the cities to find work, but are unfamiliar with the rules of city life--which I admit are necessary where people must live all crowded together. I'm not much in favor of public policies that wreck rural and farm economies and force people into the cities. There are a lot of such policies that force people off the land. Rural people in my state have done a lot of organizing against such polcies.


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DDE 2 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

Bogans don't live in Croatia the law does not allow such trash I had no idea bogans were like this the photos explains it all about the character and behavior. Bogans sound like they have no pride or skills.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama

Hi, Suzanne,

Wow, what a hub! I enjoyed every word, photo, and punch line. I am serious. In fact, I voted up and all across it was that good.

And I am not associated with, nor is anyone in my family or friends a bogan. "Hey, you bogan! Move your head out of the urinal so I can let my kidneys act." It works.

Keep up the great work. I score you A+

Peace.

K.

I have learned a new term. "Hey, you bogan!


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@DDE - Thanks for the info on Croatia, your comment was quite funny!

@Kenneth - Glad you enjoyed the photos of bogans and the little quips I was making in the writing. I believe that a lot of bogans in particular like to wee outside, so I'm unsure that they'd be putting their heads in urinals much...


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Jodah 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

Hey, I often wee outside! Lol, it's good for the citrus trees.


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blueheron 2 years ago from Odessa, MO

Bogans actually tend to have real-world skills. One of my Bogan neighbors taught me to do ALL my own plumbing. Another was the most skilled carpenter I've ever met and taught me much about carpentry before he died a couple of yeas ago. Another was an electrician who did a little of my electrical work. Then there was the one who wired my bathroom for me. Yet another helped my daughter change the rotors on her car. I have known Bogans to show up at 1:00 am and spend the rest of the night dressing a deer in someone's back yard. True, they shot it from out of the window of their pickup truck while driving down the road, which is probably illegal. One of my former Bogan neighbors--this one was mentally handicapped--was an amazing fisherman. He told me he shot squirrels for the table with C-caps (which are fairly quiet). He must have been an amazingly good shot. One of my newer Bogan neighbors is rehabbing a burnout that he bought for back taxes for a little over $2,000, making it into a nice home. And he knows how to do ALL the work involved. I've cut firewood in the snow with my Bogan neighbors--which isone of the most fun things you'll ever do.

Bogans, as a group, seem to be able to do almost anything.

Sure, I have had and still have Bogan neighbors who are dumb-asses, but this conditon seems to be epidemic in the rest of the population as well.


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama

I'm kinda torn with this issue of weeing outside, and sometimes in those filthy urinals. We can put a man on the moon, but cannot keep America's urinals spotless.

Sad, I tell you. Very sad.

Peace.

K.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@Blueheron, when I look over my neighbour's fence with the evil dogs and domestic arguments, I cannot see that they'd be good at anything.

The bogan characteristics I defined in the hub are not usually the characteristics of those who can build, create and do amazing things because they are busy being reactive. Having said that, there are exceptions to this.

I think, as you've pointed out, there is a huge portion of the population who can do these things, not just bogans, yuppies or whoever, and they tend to be argument-aversive (more of a thoughtful kind) as well as not running their lives like a derailed train.

I hope you are not offended by the bogan comments on here....it is meant to fit the kind of bogan defined in the hub and is a little venting space for anyone who has been impacted by screaming neighbours etc.

Please don't take it personally as a "dork", a "true blue Aussie" or "different" is not the same as a bogan, especially a bad bogan.


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blueheron 2 years ago from Odessa, MO

I am maybe a little over-sensitive. I live in a tiny country town. People here are a trifle lawless and vulgar--and mostly eccentric and independent mided. Probably not the same kind of people as Bogans, exactly, but definitely not suburbanites.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

I agree, they're probably country folk. The bogans I'm talking about in my hub are the rude, aggressive, messy kind. But I did discover something good about them last night. Even though their dogs still wouldn't shut up, their Saturday night BBQ smelled pretty good!


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thom w conroy 2 years ago

A few years ago I wrote this article about our "neighbors"

About ten years ago, my Wife and I moved to another state and were quite excited about exploring the possibilities of improving our lives in a new location. Our new residence was situated in a suburban setting, with plenty of space, woods, and most importantly peace and quiet. The township we moved to was low in crime, had good schools, reasonable taxes, and was within 5 miles of a city with a population of 200,000. Things were looking up, and we could not wait to get to know the area, and of course, our new neighbors. Or so we thought...

What we soon discovered was that we had moved to a neighborhood that was nearly exclusively inhabited by Appalachian refugees, most of them related by blood. Before going any further let me state that I am not prejudiced against anyone - that is not the intent of my ramblings. It's just the lifestyle and viewpoints of these individuals were totally foreign to my life experiences and the culture shock of our new environment damn near killed me. Having grown up in a large city in the rust belt, I can honestly say up until that time I'd never been offered a plate of poke weed and a groundhog leg in earnest as a dinner option.

Across the dead end street from where our house was located, was a 2 acre lot that we referred to as "The Field" where we soon learned was a magical place where civilized law did not apply. There it was normal to burn car tires, park junked cars, ride ATV's at all hours of the day or night, or smoke marijuana openly. Gun fire was okay there as well (no one was ever shot that I knew of) and the pleasant tone of 3 or 4 hound dogs filled the air at various times of the day and night. Everyone was rich in character as evidenced by unique names like Billy Ray Bob Danny, or Carolina Dakota Marie - and here I'd always thought one name was enough.

On a bright Tuesday morning at 7:45 AM one might see the 300 pound woman next door mowing her lawn in a sport bra and a pair of Speedo's designed for a size 2. When her Mother was ill in an emergency situation, she asked my Wife to babysit her daughter, her 16 year old daughter, while she went to the emergency room. My wife agreed and went to their house quickly to attempt to help. About an hour later my Wife telephoned to ask me if I'd ever had any experience with breaking up drug deals while babysitting. I informed her of my ignorance and suggested, rather strongly, that she return home immediately. It all worked out for the best though, the girl went to prison several years later on drug charges, was paroled and had a baby (I bet it looks like a prison guard).

Other incidents include another neighbor who was 60 years old and played with choo-choo trains while wearing a conductors hat, dozens of stray cats residing on our porch, and lest not we forget the occasional request to smoke marijuana behind the Pine Trees in our yard, "cause the Poo-lice caan't see ya". Funny thing was, we were considered to be the oddballs.

We've since moved to another town about two years ago, and it's heaven. A wave to the neighbors and quickly into the house, life is good. Oddly, we only live about 3 miles from the old neighborhood and we have no desire to visit, but I must admit I do get the occasional hankerin' for some squirrel stew and ramps


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kenneth avery 2 years ago from Hamilton, Alabama

blueheron,

The first time I read this hub, I instantly-identified some people who live near me, and the hub was edgy enough that I opened my eyes and felt pity for these people. I was not offended.

And Suzanne, about the great-smelling BBQ, point taken. My "bogans" have the best-smelling burgers and steaks when they grill-out, but they have not bothered to invite me.

Keep up the great work.

K.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@thom, thanks for sharing your story, it must have been quite an interesting bit of life experience! I couldn't help but giggle about the lady mowing the lawn in her bra and undies - I could not imagine that happening in a metropolitan setting where I live or there would be a lot of affronted people complaining! Living peacefully near bogans is not about policing "standards" I think, but finding out if the people are friendly, nice, respectful of you and able to take care of themselves properly. Anything else is probably judgemental crap. And living peacefully in proximity to bogans involves you taking care of yourself too - by doing something about any disrespect or crime that directly impacts you.

I think in your new town people might think squirrel stew is a bit gourmet or exotically game - your experience could write you some good articles out of it!


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@kenneth, I was not invited to the BBQ either, but I don't care since I didn't want to get acquainted with the dogs or join in the domestics or have their teenage son eyeing me off. But BBQs are one thing they do seem to do well a lot - I have been disappointed before when the smell is much better than the presentation - but it's a good thing when people spend money on good food to feed their family and friends properly.


Kenneth Avery 2 years ago

@Suzanne,

You are right. And you have wised me up as to NOT want to be invited to one of my bogan's celebrations.

Thanks for looking out for me.

Love and Peace.

K.


Dicky Knee (an Ozzie) 2 years ago

Hi Suzanne, love the topic. Its excellent to see that while lots of people live next to or near what they call bogans, because of the wide variations most of them are still ok neighbors.

It is the few that really have absolutely no regard for their neighbors that are are the true bogans you are talking about. We have a family next door to us that fall into the group that try hard to be nice but are rough about the edges, have a yard like Ma & Pa Kettle's place but don't annoy anybody.

I am surprised that nobody from the US has commented about the Housos episode in this article. The writer/ director/ main actor Paul Fenech has gone out of his way to create a series that embodies the worst of the worst bogan attitudes to life. It is done as a comedy but it really makes us Ozzies cringe when you see the way they drink, behave and attempt to procreate. Actors like Angry Anderson (lead singer in Rose Tattoo) as well as many others plan and plot their way through drug deals, defrauding welfare and rorting the system. I think when non Australians watch the movie it might bring them closer to definition of what Australians refer to as a bogan.

( Suzanne would you like to mention why the episode of Housos was included?)


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@DIcky Knee (interesting name, by the way) - the Housos episode was included so that people in the USA could see how some lower-class rogues live their lives in Australia. It's a hilarious TV series that shows the worst sort of bogans and I thought people might find it amusing. I know Aussies really like to watch this type of thing from the US, including series like Hard Core Pawn and Lizard Lick Towing etc and that they might be interested in the Aussie version, which is just as funny! Thanks for your comment - and I should point out to the other readers that the term "bogans" can also be a term of endearment in Australia, though not for the ones mentioned in my hub, sadly.


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blueheron 2 years ago from Odessa, MO

Thom, poke (Phytolaccca decandra) is one of the finest and most delicious wild greens. I can remember seeing "poke salat" being sold canned in a small-town grocery store about 30 years ago. It seems to have disappeared from commercial production. It's probably not profitable to cultivate. Leaves can only be gathered for a short time in spring, after which they become poisonous. It's also a valuable medicinal plant. Country people will often leave poke undisturbed if it turns up in the yard. The berries, which are poisonous if you eat too many, are good for arthritis. The mashed root is used as a poultice for arathritis, and has been used for cancer (I think as a poultice for brest cancer). One of my neighbors told me his Cherokee granny used the berries to treat colds--a great deal of care being taken with the dose. The plant is kind of folkloric and iconic.


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thom w conroy 2 years ago

One of our former "hillbilly" neighbors, an older gentleman I became quite good friends with would eat just about anything that didn't move (and probably a few things that did). He gave me some pokeweed on several occasions that was really bad tasting so I guess it might have turned. The ramps he gave me were flavorful but a bit strong for my taste but my wife loved them. I'm a fairly decent cook and my friend used to ask me to make something from his hunting successes almost weekly and I did - squirrel stew, stuffed rabbit, broiled deer shoulder and other dishes but I drew the line at groundhogs and opossums. I even barbecued a raccoon for him once and I have to admit the ribs were fantastic.

From what I understand ramps and pokeweed usually only grow in Appalachia. When my friend went home to West Virginia to visit he'd come back with trash bags filled with them but I'm starting to think that maybe they don't keep so well when they are not fresh.

Thanks for the information!


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blueheron 2 years ago from Odessa, MO

I just had to google the distribution of poke in the US. Here's what I came up with: https://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=PHAMA3 It's absence from a few states is puzzling. I'm figuring it doesn't like mountains and deserts. (It's actually Phytolacca americana--I was in a hurry and going by Grieve, who is a little dated.)

We have lots of it in Missouri--though it's hard to find enough in one spot for a good pot of greens. I've always thought it was delicious. The canned commercial "poke salat" reminds me of asparagus. I can't figure how your friend managed to screw this up. You are supposed to cook them in two changes of water, on the theory that there might be some poisonous principals in them. This is probably an exaggeration.

I don't think ramps (or rampion) grow in my area. My daughter sollected them in Wisconsin, under the name "wild leeks."

Different kinds of wild greens are often cooked together, and sometimes added to garden greens, "to make the greens go farther." All wild greens have a much higher nutritional content than cultivated greens--especially these days, when most cultivated store-bought veggies are so low in nutrients because of being grown on nutrient-stripped soils.

Last summer I neglected the garden because of health problems. I collected so many edible wild plants that I began to wonder about all the effort that goes into gardening!


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thom w conroy 2 years ago

Thanks for the link - interesting information for sure. My friend would literally eat ANYTHING, no matter how poorly it was conditioned or prepared so I guess being a Depression Baby in Appalachia he was tickled on any day that he had a full stomach.

I'm guessing that the preparation of pokeweed is kind of like collard greens in that if they are done right they are very good - if not look forward to spending considerable time in the bathroom. I love collards when made by a good cook and they're fresh, but the problem is that people don't realize they need to be well done.

I really think that it all boils down to freshness because certain plants peak at specific times in the year and having specific knowledge in food preparation is critical. It's sort of like catching a catfish, filleting it and cooking it for 45 minutes at 400 degrees - it's going to take like a dirty piece of shoe leather. Same catfish fillet soaked in milk with a pinch of salt and sugar overnight then cooked for 12 minutes at 350 degrees is a wonderful meal.

I used to write a prepper column about camping and survival (not the crazy conspiracy stuff) and often wished that I spent more time in my youth learning about all of the edible plants and useful botanicals that most of us walk all over in the woods. I really believe that if you had the proper knowledge a lot less people would be so enamored with gardening and a lot more thrilled about foraging.


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sparkleyfinger 2 years ago from Glasgow

Voted up and funny. Great insight into something that must really be a problem in the U.S- Scotland has their own version though- the NED! (Non Educated Delinquent)


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@sparkleyfinger - the NED? Will have to look into this....


Kenneth Avery 2 years ago

With a lot of rethinking, only one plus rises from neighbors who are bogans.

If you are ever outside and a gang of bullies try to mug you, these bogans will come to your defense, IF you have been friendly to them in the past. They have sharp memories and love a good fist-fight.

Just thinking outloud.

Peace.

K.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

@Kenneth, this is a good point. We can add it to the BBQs one, which would be a plus for neighbours attending.


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sparkleyfinger 2 years ago from Glasgow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_(Scottish) Lol... Some similar attributes... Lmao


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

Kind of like the Scottish version of Housos from the looks of it...


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pstraubie48 2 years ago from sunny Florida

O, my ....it is NOT funny but it is, ya' know?

We call 'em others names and I won't say them (not swear words but might offend some).

I am so blessed to have no Bogans in my neighborhood.

Angels are on the way to you today. ps


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luxcat 2 years ago from UK

This is hilarious - I remember when our Aussie friends first pointed out what Bogan was - a guy playing cricket in pool shoes and a white vest - I think i'm going to enjoy following your Hubs : )


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Maggie42 2 years ago

Thanks Susan I'm an Aussie (Forster NSW) also - my greatest fear is that I'll discover that I'm actually related to them in some way. This is my first day on HP thanks for the laugh it was really well written


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

Thanks Maggie42, glad it brought you a smile. My neighbour's dog is completely quiet now....think it must be dead (though not by my hand!)


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Jodah 2 years ago from Queensland Australia

Just revisited this hub again Suzanne. Don't tell anyone but this got my vote for the funniest hub in the 2014 Hub Awards :)


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FlourishAnyway 2 years ago from USA

This was so funny I had to return to it. Blueheron might consider writing a howto. Loved the comment.


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Suzanne Day 2 years ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

Thanks Jodah and Flourish, both of you were voted for by me for Hubbie Awards too! Yes, Blueheron could write pages and pages of info about all this stuff, I see there's a theme already happening on Blueheron's subdomain like this ;)


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NonCopyBook 21 months ago from NSW Australia

"Bogans like to sleep in" haha.. I had this problem with messy neighbours (on both sides) once... Nothing helped, it was painful.. Had to learn to be more zen somehow- the solution was something like putting my head in the sand! But luckily it was never so bad that I felt I had to move because of it...


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poetryman6969 19 months ago

When I first heard that Australians had a special name for ill mannered, inbred folk I was a little shocked. I thought we only had people who use a busted up car as a lawn ornament here in the states.

Some can be a bit light fingered too. As in: If it's not bolted down then it must be their right to take it.


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Suzanne Day 19 months ago from Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Author

Too true Poetryman, when there's clusters of these people together, the resulting community is one you wouldn't want to try selling a house in!


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MarleneB 17 months ago from Northern California, USA

This is hilarious, yet a sad thing for people who live next door to these unruly people. I enjoyed reading about bogans. I have some bogans in my neighborhood and now I have some tips that might come in handy in dealing with them.

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