Can same sex marriage be consummated, as in the sense of a traditional marriage?
I just read an interesting Hub - by a New Hubber, with lots of questions and decided to post one of them here, as no one had answered any of them yet.
Please comment on question above (it’s not from me, it’s one of many raised in the Hub). So, I’ll just leave it in your hands, I’m off to get some wine for next week, before it snows again…. Thx.
Ps. Opinionduck is aware.
Marriage is consummated when the couple make love, not when they get pregnant.
If marriage were only to reproduce, then we'd have to pass a law that said no women over 40 could get married. And no infertile women. And no sterile men.
Straight couples would be forced to divorce if they chose to remain childless, or if they were unable to have kids for whatever reason. Grannies would have to leave their husbands as soon as they went through menopause. It would be a lonely, sad world, I think.
I dont know whether you believe in God or not but all the same i think it cannot be consummated in a conventional sense.
Thanks, and after 6 days no other responses.
Here is the full question from my hub.
13.Can same sex marriage be consummated, as in the sense of a traditional marriage? Traditional different sex marriages were not valid unless they were consumated by sexual relations. The purpose of traditional marriage was to have children. If the marriage didn't have sex, then there would be no children, so the pupose of marriage was not fulfuilled and it could then be made null and void. Same sex marriage cannot be consumated under traditional marriage laws.
So women and men who have sex or "consumated" the marriage and have found that they are unable to have children, is their marriage null and void under traditional laws?
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have spoken up, but these type of questions are annoying...are you saying that same sex people do not have sex, because they can not have children "together" but have the right to adopt or have surragotes-??? They still have sex...not understanding, going back to the egg nog...
Merry Christmas all.
When you do get back from the egg nog could you please tell me what it is...I know it is a drink and it obviously has egg in it but that's all I know. We don't have it in Oz.
Not sure what is in the traditional Egg Nog...we drink Coquito's which is the Puerto Rican version of Egg Nog. In this yummy fattening drink includes coconut milk, evaporated milk and I mix it with Captain Morgans Silver Rum, there are other ingredients, just don't have the recipe at hand. Coquito's are made 2 weeks in advance and left to sit in the fridge until Christmas Eve...can't buy it in a carton as you can with traditional Egg Nog.
It is true that same sex marriages cannot be consummated the traditional way which means making them null and void if that is what the people in such a marriage wants would be easy under present laws.
Even so, one of the things marriage can do is give people a sense of purpose. Children are not required for this. In a world bursting at the seams with human overpopulation we aren't in danger any more of destroying ourselves by not procreating enough. The opposite is actually true!
Nowadays there is artificial insemination to consider when it comes to lesbian marriages and adoption when it comes to gay male marriages. Surely this puts it all into a new ball park. Once there are children, however the children arrived, they must be taken care of and that's where the stability of marriage, traditional or otherwise comes in.
Someone raised a valid point. What happens when the man and woman married couple can't conceive? You know, God didn't create us all to be the same. The "reason" for marriage as said in the old days were man made(Don't want a biblical discussion). If the only reason for getting married was to have children, wouldn't every woman be able to conceive a child?
I couldn't concieve even if I was straight, so in essence I shouldn't marry at all under these laws, right?
But to answer your question I personally believe that marriage and sex were created for enjoyment and fulfillment as well as for procreation. God gave us the gift of sex in order to be able to bond with our partner body and soul. It is there for procreation yes, but that is not it's only purpose. It is also because when two people engage in a sexual act, it gives pleasure to both parties. When my wife and I make love it makes me happy to see her happy and it makes her happy to see me happy. Sex is an intimate activity between two people who are very much in love and it is also a sign that you trust your partner and that you want to make them feel good.
But who really wants to hear my opinion anyway, I am just a Lesbian Christian.
Another person's sex life is none of my business therefore prefer not to know and privacy should be respected
Traditional laws were/are created by human beings..all meant to be broken/ or changed if they don't seem logical. and in this advanced world i think many of the so called traditional laws should be swept aside.
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