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We were presented with a question concerning the verse John 3:16 and 3:18 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever believeth in him have everlasting life Here is an answer to the John. 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned; but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

The question was... This sounds like a contradiction; God loved the whole world yet only those that believes upon JesusĀ are saved from damnation. What about those in the world that had never heard of Jesus Christ, because they either died before Jesus was born or they lived in a corner of the earth that his teachings had never reached?

I will attempt to explain how I believe this problem can be rectified.

I have been trying to explain that what we call the O.T. was written to the Hebrew peoples and no one else. The O.T. was a written documentation of the covenant made to Abraham. The Laws that were set before the Nation through Moses. The history of how the people did not live up to their end of the bargain.

It is necessary to be aware of the timeframe as to when God threatened the Hebrews with what we today call prophesy.

It is written that God would say; "You better quit doing that or I will do this to you". The O.T is documentation of a history of Gods disapproval of the Hebrew peoples behavior, and Gods threats and punishments having been being carried out.

I have not read anything in the bible to contradict this statement. People have interpret these letters that the church has included into the canon. These letters have been interpreted in such a way as to imply that Jesus and the disciples were talking to us some two thousand years later. They are not. I believe that it is this misconception that causes all of the confusion today in attempting to understand these scriptures.

The Church has divided what we call the O.T. from the New testament. This causes a gross misunderstanding of scripture. The new Testament affirms the birth of Jesus Christ, his miracles and his teachings as being the fulfillment of those prophesy that was given to THAT Hebrew people that the prophesy was given to. These prophesy of the Old testament was intended for that Hebrew Nation that they were given to.

With this in mind we should consider the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John to be speaking to that Hebrew Peoples that heard their words.

The Church teaches that they were speaking to us. Though the truth of what they were teaching was truth then, and is also true for us today. This is as far as we should go with that idea. The disciples were speaking to those people that were standing before them when they spoke. As was Jesus Christ.

All of the prophesy that was given to that Hebrew Nation that existed in the first century were all fulfilled before that Nation ceased to exist. This should be simple to understand and obvious to see. But for some reason it is not.

Unless we understand these facts it is impossible to understand the simplicity of scripture. Our insistence upon interpreting the word of God has made understanding scripture much more difficult that it was intended.

In 538 BC the Lord sent his messenger Angel to Daniel with Final notice for the cancellation of the covenant made with Abraham. The message was that the Hebrew people will be given seventy (Prophetic) weeks to anoint the most holy or all of the rest of prophesy will be carried out.

A hundred years before that Hebrew Nation was totally dismantled and carried away; Jesus Christ, their Messiah came to teach the true word of God, perform merciless and to die upon the cross, as was foretold (Daniel 9:26)

The disciples were told to go out and spread the word that the final days of prophesy were upon them.

When Jesus said that "This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled". This was the true word of God.

This was a last call so to speak for that rebellious Hebrew Nation that was soon to experience the end of their days.

Now; where does that leave us?

Revelation 13 tells us that there will be a false "Religion" rise up out of the sea. (Paganism?). And after this there will be another beast rise up out of the earth (holy land). This second beast has come to be called the False Prophet.

To answer the original question now that way has been prepared.

John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life". 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned; but he that believeth not is condemned already..."

Jesus said that he came only to save the lost sheep of Israel. Those Hebrews that were bound by the Law of Moses and not following them. He did not come to save the righteous but the unrighteous. Those that were already condemned was being offered a pardon for their sins. Jesus died upon the cross that they might be saved. If those Hebrews did not accept his gift they would left with their decision.

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Marliza Gunter 6 years ago from South Africa

The bible is Spirit

It warps time...thus words written thousands of years ago..well...God can make those same words manifest in your life...

The bible is God...the big picture is about God..not the Jews not the gentiles...not the sinners

The bible (Word of God) is not bound...not by time, religion, people, satan or whatever wish to challenge the Power of God...

The bible is a living, breathing thing (Spirit) that goes into the very inside of you...and brings healing, restoration and faith..

My view is..that no debate over idle matters will get that Spirit into you and it is the Spirit that ALL people need...they have to be reborn of the Spirit...under the letter all men are condemned...because they rejected God to be King over them like in the O.T....not God who rejected them, but the people rejecting God, His Son and His Words of Life...


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Loves To Read 6 years ago

A very controversial point and i agree with MG. As from the NT we are all offered the gift of the Holy Spirit and are to be guided by Him. Gods word is as relevant for us today as it was for the people of the OT and NT.

Thanks for sharing


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Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

Thank you Marliza, I appreciate your stopping and leaving your comment.

I agree with everything that you said; that the spirit of what is written in scripture transcends time. The spiritual lessons can be applied to our own lives in a personal way, dealing with personal issues of every one on an individual level.

However I would add that we must always keep in mind what 2nd Peter 1:20 says; that prophesy of scripture has NO personal interpretation. They can not mean any more or less than what is written. We tend to read more into them than was intended.

I feel like these prophesy are the backbone, and blueprint or guideline given to us that is necessary for our understanding of scripture. Our interpretations of the spirit of scripture must stay within the boundaries set forth in prophesy.

This is my beliefs any way?

Your profile and hubs looks very interesting. I will be visiting them.


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Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

Hello Loves to read. Always good to see ya. Any feedback is always welcomed. It is hard to understand everything that Jesus said in a way as to eliminate what seems to be contradictions. I believe that there are no contradictions in what he said. The contradictions would have to be found in our interpretations of what we think that he said.

Jesus did say that he had not come "but" for the lost sheep of Israel. He came to fulfill those prophesy that was given to that Hebrew Nation. And that that generation shall not pass till all these things be accomplished. But no one knows the day or hour.

There are sooo many different understandings of scripture that, to discuss this issue can be nothing but controversial. I believe that there has to be a way to understand his words that are consistent. And I will keep on trying to find it. One step at a time.

This theory stated in this hub may not be correct; but at the present time, it seems to me like a plausible answer.


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iantoPF 6 years ago from Sunny California

Thank you jerami; For myself I don't have to agree with an answer but it is a relief to find someone actually giving an answer.

I have every respect for someone who will work at resolving issues and only scant interest in those who hide behind a profession of faith to avoid deep thoughts.

My Best Wishes, I will be reading more of your work.


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Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

Thank you iantoPF for stopping by and for your kind words. I Read a sign once that said.. Answers to your Questions = 5 cents... Correct answers = $1.oo always ready to give away my 5 cents worth.


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Michael Adams1959 6 years ago from Wherever God leads us.

I believe you are right on it my friend


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Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

Michael Adams1959 Thanks for the comment and the visit.

I enjoy tough questions whether I can answer then correctly or not. At the very least they help me make up my own mind concerning my beliefs.

Even when they make my head hurt.


Pamitchrus 6 years ago

That condemnation being that they would not come to the light, even as Adam hid in the garden from the light. So God has sent his son, he who will come yet again to bring all people to the light, therefore their,our, comdemnation is but for a time, till the full light of the new day arrives, till all hear even as Adam heard God calling him. We don't go to God , God comes to us. :0). Remember peoples that God himself said that the majority would be blinded to the light,condemed, during this age. But when the light comes to rule and reign then all will come to the light.. That which was, and is, and is to come.. All will answer one day even as Adam answered. :0). Peace to all and remember that there is nothing new under the sun.. Adam sinned, Adam hid, God later called him, Adam heard and came to the light, God clothed Adam.. Lovely and repeat forevermore!!!!


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Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

Pamitchrus thanks for that beautiful concept.

We do not have long to wait. This Hub started as an answer to a question on the forums. People in general know that life can not keep going in the direction that it is forever. We know that time is short. And a lot of people have a lot of questions that no one seems to want to even attempt to answer.

I think it is important to attempt to answer them.

But having these answers are unimportant for those that have decided their fate. But for those seeking answers they are of utmost importance.


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Rufus89 4 years ago from USA, New Mexico

"What about those that have never head his teachings, or died before they had a chance, or lived in a corner of the world where his teachings never reached?"

Good question! The Mormons say that God knew this would happen and prepared a way that all would have the same opportunities. Therefore, when a person dies, without the chance to learn and decide, they get that chance in the "Spirit World". There, they can learn all that they didn't get to, and then ultimately decide. Meanwhile, on the Earth, people are doing Baptisms for the dead who didn't have that chance presented to them (That is, if you think of Baptism as an essential ordinance for Salvation).

How about that? Does that reconcile the contradiction?


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Jerami 4 years ago from Houston tx Author

Sorry it took so long for me to reply. and thanks for your comment.

That is typically a good answer .. however .. my beliefs are continually evolving. .. I think that every living soul was first in heaven before being born into a physical body. In the beginning God said "Let Us make man in our image" We are the US. I think that we were with God before our birth for what might have seemed like an eternity and will be again (for eternity), after we leave this body. This life last such a short period of time in comparison, that I don't think we will lose our salvation for not believing is Jesus during less than .00001 % of our existence. As Jesus said "You are all sons of God" Our names were written in the book of live from the foundation of the earth! We can not remember anything from before we entered this physical form. For that would ruin the physical experience.


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Rufus89 4 years ago from USA, New Mexico

Yes! I totally agree with everything you said. It all makes sense. I also highly doubt that God would punish someone who is a good person but doesn't believe in Jesus. I agree.

Yea, I think we lived with God as spirits for eternity, like you said, and that we reached a point where we could no longer progress. God created this plan for us to come here and be born into physical bodies. We had to "leave home" in order to experience and progress more.

Great hub, again, by the way.


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Jerami 4 years ago from Houston tx Author

Rufus; Many thanks for the compliment. Rev. 4:5 "... for thy (our?) pleasure they are and were created". I think we were given this physical experience for no reason other than Our pleasure and all of the LAWS are simply directions as to how to make fully appreciate the experience.

Is is a personal interpretation or assumption BUT, Is it possible that in the beginning we brought with us all knowledge that we had as spiritual beings? And this knowledge brought about that behavior which caused God to wipe the slate clean and start all over. And just maybe the tree of knowledge represents a measured amount of knowledge which we are capable of handling?

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