A world without end: the concept of the church


There are various religious teachings regarding the end of the world and when it shall be. Some people claim that the end is unknown to man as it will come suddenly when many maybe unprepared. In the past, some people had predicted or prophesied that the world would end but it never did and there is a recent claim that the world would end, according to the Mayan Calendar, by December 2012.

Some Christian sects believe that this world as we know it today will come to an end someday and that will be the return of Christ. It is certain that not all Christian sects share this view as some of them believe that God would not destroy the earth which he created but instead evil would be removed from the earth and peace will be restored on earth.

There are various views on the end of the world but what gave rise to this article is a comment made by a Catholic lecturer. The man asked, “Is it not same church that said ‘the world will end someday’ also say in their prayers ‘as it was in the beginning shall and forever be a world without end.’”

It is obvious that some churches pray that way and same churches teach that the world will end one day. Then one may begin to wonder how they would reconcile their prayer and their belief about the end of the world.

How will a world without end come to an end? That is the concept of the church.

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David Ramses 4 years ago

God created a rainbow after the great flood as a reminder that He will never again destroy the earth with water; but with fire instead. Revelation talks about 2/3 of the earth being burned and a single day that facilitates more human death than all the deaths in history. The bible describes a destruction of the earth, not the world, and the establishment of a new earth that is void of sin, death, pain, torment, and fear. Isaiah talks about it when he says, "and the men will learn war never again." The earth will be destroyed, the world (collective human consciousness and life experience) as we know it will end, and those who were FAITHFUL believers will survive it. Read up on it. It is scary and promising at the same time.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

Do you mean there is a differece between the earth and the world? That is the church is right to say "world without end" because the bible said its the earth that will be destroyed. The idea of some people living on earth or a new earth is not shared by all churches because some churches teach that people can either go to heaven or hell. Well, I will accept what you said as your faith and believe not as certain truth.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

I have just written a comment below for you.


David Ramses 4 years ago

I would appreciate it if you wouldn't "take what I say" at all; look to the Bible for your answers. Personally, I don't think the church has any rights, which is why I am not a member of the church most people claim is the church. In biblical times, the church was the collective assembly of the believers. The only authority or rights they claimed were in Christ. Any governing body that claims the power to interpret what should be interpreted personally is attempting to play god. Any governing body that has changed scripture does not adhere to the warnings in the last verses of the Book of Revelation, and therefore must not have any real faith anyway.

That being said, I appreciate your insights. Of course, I think it is a good virtue not to be in the habit of writing interesting articles and then condemning people for responding. The practice of not taking what someone else said as "absolute truth" goes without saying and should never have to be spoken. Not speaking such things facilitates conversation and communication. I drew two examples from the Bible to support my viewpoints about the World and the Earth. I selected them from hundreds of examples.

Revelation 11:15

Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.”

In the Book of Revelation, and throughout the Bible, the destruction of the Earth is explained, in detail. After the Earth is destroyed, by fire, the World still exists. Christ conquers evil and destroys it, in full. He then assumes authority and makes the kingdom of the world the Kingdom of Himself. In the Bible, the Earth is referred to as having "Kingdoms". The ruler of the World is identified as Lucifer and the Wicked. The World is the collective consciousness, spirituality, and existence of all life. The Earth is not life, it is alive. The Earth is in the World. If, for hypothetical example, all the people lived on a starship and the Earth did not exist, the World would still exist. In the Bible, God does not destroy the World, He destroys the Earth. The beast, the anti-Christ, and Lucifer all take part in the destruction but it is all according to God's will. Jesus, according to the Bible, has been building a New Jerusalem which will be brought down to Earth after all the events in Revelation take place. There, believers will "reign as kings and princes" with Christ for eternity. If you would like bible verses to support each one of these things, I would be happy to compile them for you. Better yet, start at the Book of Matthew and read through to the end, like a novel.

John 3:17

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

Jesus came here to save the World. Unless he was a "save the Earth" activist, the World and the Earth are two separate entities.

I will not comment about beliefs regarding Heaven and Hell except to say that, in the Book of Revelation, it says:

Revelation 20:11-15

“…….Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone’s name was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.”

This suggests that Hell is not an eternal place. God destroys Hell (Hades) in the lake of fire, along with Lucifer, the Beast, the anti-Christ, the fallen angels, and all the wicked and non-believers. The bible does not say they suffer eternal punishment, but eternal destruction. The word for eternal, originally used, in the term "eternal destruction" is different from the other word for "eternal". It literally translates to "final". Not only this, the bible also has verses that describe the sleep all humans feel until judgment day, God guarding our gift of salvation in Heaven, the burning and destruction of Heaven, and the creation of a New Heaven and a New Earth. I respect your beliefs and I don't attach myself to any "beliefs" that are not accounted for in scripture. I was raised with the "Instant Heaven or Hell" philosophy but, after studying Theology and reading the Bible for years, I realize it is not supported but directly contradicted by the Bible. Some say the whole concept was created by the Mid-Evel church for some political reason.......don't know.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

1st am following you as I love martial arts. 2nd you didn't get me. I dn't say you dn't have to express your view and like I mentioned its your view. If I accept it as absolute truth means it has been confirmed and proven to be true which is not the case so your point is not an absolute truth not even the bible will be considered so because not everybody agree with the bible records or claims. Therefore, its simply your view. I tolerate all religion for I know its a matter of acceptance.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

What is the difference between the world and the earth? I still didn't get it. W


David Ramses 4 years ago

The world is wherever there is life and consciousness. The earth is Alive. The world includes earth, hell, heaven, the solar system, other solar systems, other planets, other dimensions, etc. earth is a living thing that is in the world


David Ramses 4 years ago

I love martial arts too. Do you study?


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

You mean heaven, hell, earth and other planets are part of the world. This is the first time I read such idea little wonder your profile said you love controvesy but am yet to loss an a debate all my life because I don't start a fight I can't win. You idea is interesting but how do you link it to the bible verse "Be in the world but don't be of the world" and "the king and rulers of the world..." Jesus made those comments and I now wonder how it fit in your explanation of world and earth.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

I studied martial for some time but never graded. I studied two different types.


David Ramses 4 years ago

If the earth didn't exist, but all the people still existed, those verses would still apply. "Be in the world but not of the world" means to avoid being worldly because the world is generally corrupt and evil. The earth, however, is not corrupt and evil. It is a planet that behaves according to the laws of nature God designed. The "world" is life, the "earth" is alive; part of life, part of the world. If we all lived on another planet, those verses would still apply because the world would still exist, just not on earth anymore. I do think the earth and the world are two different places. Otherwise, why didn't He say, "Be in the earth but not of the earth."?? I think it is because to say that would be to say that we should avoid being of the earth, which would be impossible because God created us from the earth. Why would Jesus, or anyone, advise us not to be "of the earth" because the earth is so evil and tempting? It would not make sense. The kings and rulers of the world would exist whether we were on earth, a starship, another planet, it would not matter. They would be the kings of humanity, of worldly things, not of Godly things. But it would not matter where it existed. Here is another question from me, about your theory. If the earth is destroyed like it says in Revelation, why does it say Jesus will take control of the "world" afterward? If the earth and the world are the same place, why would Jesus rule it if it has been destroyed and is a pile of ashes? Also, why does it say God will create a new Heaven and a new Earth and Jesus will rule the world? Is it because the earth is the world, or because Heaven and Earth, and anywhere there is life, are the world?


David Ramses 4 years ago

Oh yeah, I don't consider this to be controversy. I appreciate the opportunity to consider other viewpoints. I respect your opinions and I like discussion, especially about theology.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

In one of your earlier comment, you said heaven, earth, hell, and sun are part of the world. That was why I asked you the question and your explanation dn't come close as you seem to change from what you said earlier. How can heaven be a part of the world and Jesus warned his people not to be of the world.


David Ramses 4 years ago

Lucifer came from Heaven. How can the earth be the only portion of the world? Jesus said "don't be of the world", yet we are all from, on, bound to, and suffering on earth. I thought I did answer your question. Ok. Here is my solid view: Earth, outer space, the spiritual realm, and possibly other dimensions are all part of the world. When Jesus said to be in the world but not of it He was referring to the evil in the world, which is rampant. There is evil on earth, there is evil everywhere. Satan was evil in Heaven before being cast out. If earth is the only world, when the astronauts landed on the moon were they no longer in the world, or just no longer on earth? Does Gods law apply on the moon too? Anywhere Gods law, evils law, and any kind of laws of nature exist is the world. Due to temptation it will tend to be worldy, or not of God. I believe when the bible says earth it means the earth and when it says world it means everywhere including earth. God and Satan are both spiritual entities that operate in the world. The bible says Satan rules the world. So the spiritual realms are part of the world. Sorry, I didn't mean to recant it was a clerical error. I apologize for the confusion.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

It can be agreed that the earth and other planets are part of the world but heaven and hell to also be a part of it is what is confusing. This is because such places are what is taught by religions (not all) to exist which has not been confirmed so how do you call it a part of the world?


David Ramses 4 years ago

Because, in this life, on this earth, some people are in heaven and others hell. Some see heaven, others hell.


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davidkaluge 4 years ago Author

How is that? Is it by rich and poor?

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