Pineal Gland Activation: Awakening the Third Eye

Pineal gland activation unlocks your full psycho-spiritual potential.
Pineal gland activation unlocks your full psycho-spiritual potential.
The pineal gland is the size of a pea
The pineal gland is the size of a pea | Source
The Staff of Osiris symbolizes Kundalini energy rising up to the Third Eye.
The Staff of Osiris symbolizes Kundalini energy rising up to the Third Eye. | Source

Having trouble meditating, or remembering your dreams, or just feeling disconnected from the Source?

The problem may be a blocked (or calcified) pineal gland.

The pineal gland, referred to as the Third Eye, the Eye of Horus or the Seat of the Soul, is a small pine cone shaped organ inside your brain that secretes hormones like melatonin, serotonin and DMT (Dimethyltryptamine), also known as the Spirit Molecule.

Melatonin and serotonin are responsible for sleep or meditative states, and emotional states of well-being, bliss and euphoria. DMT effects range from time dilation, time travel, journeys to paranormal realms to encounters with spiritual beings from other dimensions.

On the energy level, the pineal gland is the physical manifestation of the 6th Chakra - Ajna, associated with true mystic potential, perception of non-physical reality and spiritual wisdom.

Because of its pine cone shape, the pineal gland is often symbolized by a pine cone.

In fact, many spiritual traditions use pine cone symbolism to reference the pineal gland: the staff of the Egyptian god Osiris has two intertwining cobras meeting at the pine cone (Kundalini energy rising up to the Third Eye), gods of Sumeria, Greece, Babylon and Mexico were often depicted with the pine cone, sacred ruins of Angkor Wat in Cambodia are also pine cone shaped, and even the Pope's staff features a pine cone.

The pine cone symbolism is found all over the world.

Pine cone shaped Angkor Wat complex in Cambodia.
Pine cone shaped Angkor Wat complex in Cambodia. | Source

The Pigna (pine cone) sculpture in Vatican is considered the largest pine cone statue in the world.

The Court of the Pine Cone in Vatican.
The Court of the Pine Cone in Vatican. | Source
Symbol for Ajna, the 6th Chakra
Symbol for Ajna, the 6th Chakra | Source

What causes the blockage of the pineal gland?

This organ is your spiritual vision apparatus, your bridge between two worlds - physical and metaphysical.

It allows you to have mystical and lucid dream experiences that are essential to your spiritual evolution. They are the messages from the Soul, and the pineal gland is the antenna designed to receive them.

Yet most people's pineal gland is shut down by the time they're 12 years old. You probably noticed it yourself - kids are all intuitive and spiritual by nature, but we loose these abilities when we grow up. Why?

The problem is the calcification of the pineal gland. This gland has a water-filled interior, which means that it calcifies with age, and for other reasons. What specifically causes the calcification?

  • Fluoride in toothpaste, food and water
  • processed "junk" food
  • soda and other carbonated beverages
  • refined sugars, fats, flour
  • lack of sunlight
  • limiting beliefs
  • lack of spiritual practice.

A calcified pineal gland.
A calcified pineal gland. | Source

But mostly, it's fluoride.

Fluoride is the greatest enemy of your pineal gland.

It's harmless in very small quantities - in fact, it occurs naturally in water. However, fluoride in our tap water, food and toothpaste is NOT a naturally occurring fluoride, and the amounts of it far exceed the safety limits.

Since the pineal gland accumulates fluoride, it has the highest fluoride concentration in the human body, and that is the primary cause of the pineal gland calcification.

70 percent of US water supply is fluoridated. To put this in perspective, there are more people drinking fluoridated water in the United States than the rest of the world combined.

We've been told that fluoride is safe and that it prevents tooth decay, but it's a lie. Research shows that there is NO TOOTH DECAY DIFFERENCE between fluoride-using and no fluoride-using countries. And as for safety...each year over 20,000 calls are made to Poison Control Centers in the U.S. due to acute fluoride toxicity from ingesting toothpaste. This is why a warning is required on all fluoride toothpaste tubes to avoid accidental swallowing: it's a known poison. In fact, until recently fluoride was an active ingredient in rat poison.

I'm not going to go into the reasons why there's so much fluoride in our environment - make your own conclusions. The indisputable facts are: fluoride is poisonous, and it shuts down our most important spiritual organ. If you want to know more, the documentary "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" explains why people having spiritual experiences is not good for those in power.

Shiva’s third eye
Shiva’s third eye | Source

So what can you do to activate your pineal gland?

Step 1: Say Bye-Bye To Fluoride

The number one thing you can do to activate your pineal gland is reduce your intake of fluoride.

  • Use only natural no-fluoride toothpaste and decline fluoride gel treatments at the dentist.
  • Drink purified or filtered water, and keep in mind that bottled water can also be fluoridated.
  • Eat fresh organic food - the more processed the food is, the more fluoride it contains.
  • Avoid processed beverages like sodas, juice drinks, instant and bottled teas, sports drinks.
  • Avoid cooking with non-stick pans, they increase the fluoride content of food.
  • Drink organic or imported wine. Wine (particularly red wine) is proven to be good for you in moderation, but because of the heavy use of fluoride-based pesticides in the United States, wines that are made from U.S.-grown grapes (particularly California wines) are fluoride-laden.
  • Avoid any kind of processed meat (e.g., chicken fingers, chicken nuggets) - a mechanical de-boning process contaminates the meat with higher levels of fluoride.
  • Drink teas that are made from young leaves (e.g., “White tea”) or yerba matte – a herbal tea from South America.
  • Certain pharmaceuticals (including Prozac and Paxil) are also habitually fluoridated, so whenever possible, avoid or limit the use of anesthetics, antibiotics and antidepressants.
  • A lot of fluoride is absorbed through the skin when taking a shower or a bath. If you like taking a long shower or a nice relaxing bath, consider installing a fluoride filter in your bathroom. Otherwise, try rinsing your body and turning the faucet off, then lathering up, and then rinsing the soap off at the end. This way you're conserving the water and minimizing your fluoride absorption.
  • Avoid calcium supplementation as it is not absorbed into the bones and just ends up clogging your organs, including the pineal gland.

Tamarind Removes Fluoride

Fish Oil Aids De-Calcification

Step 2: Take Out The Trash

Cleansing is another important step in activating your pineal gland. This is to remove fluoride that's already accumulated in your body over the years.

  • Tamarind fruit or paste. I attended a spiritual retreat not long ago, and I heard someone mention that tamarind paste is the best way to decalcify the pineal gland. I researched it, and turns out, it's true. Recent studies show that tamarind is highly effective in removing body fluoride through excretion of urine, and even in mobilizing deposited fluoride from bone.
  • Borax (boron) supplement is another known antidote to fluoride. A 1/4 teaspoon of borax (found in most supermarkets) in one liter of water can be taken in small quantities throughout the day. Boron is also present in beets.
  • Fish Oil is one of the best substances for all-around detoxification, and specifically, de-calcification of the pineal gland. It's known to aid with depression, anxiety, headaches, low energy, insomnia etc. The best kinds of fish oil are skate liver oil and shark liver oil.
  • Liver cleanses are crucial to our physical and spiritual well being. A good liver cleanse can remove heavy metals and numerous toxins from your body, including fluoride. The one I practice is a coffee enema or a coffee colonic. Of course, those should be done only after cleansing your colon, otherwise the toxins will get stuck, and then re-absorbed into the blood.
  • Sauna or a sweat lodge ceremony are great for removing fluoride and other toxins from the skin as they are excreted in the sweat. Wipe your body of the sweat often to prevent re-absorption and drink lots of water. Hydration is vital if you consider this method!

Meditating with the word "Love" activates the Third Eye.
Meditating with the word "Love" activates the Third Eye. | Source

Step 3: Spiritual Practice

The third step in activating your pineal gland is spiritual practice.

This is arguably the most pivotal step. While it's important to change your diet and maintain a healthy body, nothing substitutes spiritual practice that allows for the healing to occur naturally, trains the mind to be still, and prepares you to experience higher states of consciousness.

  • Meditate, Meditate, Meditate. There's a number of meditations you can practice to target your pineal gland, for example, meditating with the word "Love". Sit with your back straight, your eyes closed and your tongue between your teeth. Gently bite the tip of your tongue. Vibrate the word "love" through your teeth as you purse your lips.
  • Breathing through your Third Eye is another technique you can employ to activate your pineal gland. Breathe in the brilliant silver light through your Third Eye, hold it, then visualize it surrounding your pineal gland. See it vibrating with that silver light, see that calcified shell breaking and deteriorating, see your pineal gland shine as luminous light is breaking through the barrier of calcium. Practice for about 15-20 minutes a day.
  • Simply placing your awareness in your Third Eye is effective in stimulating the pineal. When you do it, you'll notice a feeling of slight pressure in your forehead area, which is a good sign. Just hold your attention there and be mindful of your body and mind.
  • The pineal gland can also be activated by Kundalini yoga which works with your Kundalini energy. Kundalini can rise from the root chakra at the base of your spine all the way to the crown chakra and beyond. The idea behind Kundalini yoga (and meditation) is to create a gradual energy buildup that would activate your chakras one by one naturally.
  • You can utilize gemstones and crystals. Gems that work with the Third Eye chakra are deep blue stones like lapis lazuli, sapphire or sodalite. Communicate with the stone. Ask it to help you awaken and heal your pineal gland. You can hold the stone during a meditation or place it on your forehead to increase the effect.

Pineal Gland Activation with Binaural Beats

© 2013 Lana Zakinov

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Nicholas Fiorito 3 years ago from Northern NJ

Great hub with a lot of consolidated information, thanks! Also love the nod to the DMT: Spiritual Molecule documentary. Keep up the great work!


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Grace-Wolf-30 3 years ago from England

What an enlightening hub. During my nurse training, I had to study the brain, and I've never come across the pineal gland described this way before, so it is refreshing to see that some science has made a physical connection to spirituality.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Thank you Nicholas! I love this documentary, it puts the focus on higher states of consciousness and why they're not desirable in our society.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Thank you Grace! I'm not surprised that the function of the pineal gland is glossed over in the medical training; and it's not just medicine. It seems like the whole society is set up in a way that prevents us from spiritual development, or rather mocks spirituality with religion. Yet the symbols of the pineal gland are imbedded in every religious and mystical tradition...like bread crumbs meant to lead us to the light.


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Dan Barfield 3 years ago from Gloucestershire, England, UK

Thank you so much - this is great straight forward advice. Informative, interesting and damned useful. Hopefully my 'awakening' through practice will come quicker now I'm armed with this knowledge. :) Peace.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

You are very welcome Dan :-) I'm going through this process myself so I can relate ...good luck to you on awakening and unlocking your full potential! Blessings


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jacope 3 years ago from Great Falls, MT

This is a very interesting article. You have also given me an idea for a hub on herbs for detoxification, specifically for fluoride. All herbs have medicinal properties, but they also have magical/spiritual properties as well depending on the paradigm they are looked at from. It has been interesting to note that such properties normally coincide with their healing properties.


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Mel Carriere 3 years ago from San Diego California

I find it fascinating how there are common symbols in all religious traditions, and how the ancients seemed to know about this pine cone shaped structure even though they did not have much knowledge of anatomy. The same thing is true of the double helix shape of our DNA. We find the intertwined serpent shape throughout ancient depictions even there was no means back then of examining the interior of a cell. Fascinating hub!


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

That's a great idea! I'd love to read it. As you can see, I didn't go into a lot of specifics on detoxing in this article; it's already a lot of information and I've heard that if the hub is too big, it makes it unreadable. I want to start detoxing after the full moon, and I'd love to know more about it, especially using the herbs. Looking forward to your article!


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Pamela Sarzana 3 years ago from northern Indiana

Very interesting reading and well written.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Well, Mel...it's a very interesting topic. I think you know that I have some rather non-traditional views on the subject. And every theory needs to be examined, right? There is a theory that the ancients didn't know much about anatomy or genetics but there were other... advanced people...beings... who brought this knowledge to the people of the Earth. Much of this knowledge is lost or perverted, but every here and there we have little reminders - like symbols or myths or drawings. I think humanity is like the lost children - Hansel and Gretel, and these reminders are like bread crumbs so we can find our way back home.


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Diana Lee 3 years ago from Potter County, Pa.

This is interesting. Voted up.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Thank you Pamela! Thank you Diana!


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

While I agree that these things you speak of are physical realities, I disagree on your conclusive use of spiritual ideas as examples.

If there are physical laws which govern our physical realm, then are there spiritual laws which govern the spiritual realm? And if things like gravity never change, then do spiritual laws have rule sets that never change, too?

I believe the search for spiritual truth, is by far the most interesting study anyone could ever commit to. Because, what is truth? What is good, or evil? And if there are laws about these things which never change, even in the spiritual dimension, then where would we look and how would we know if what we were reading is the truth? How would we know what is a lie?

All religious ideas can't all be right at the same time. Concepts such as punishment and reward, which we do here while in this world as flesh and blood. We have prisons for people we consider too dangerous for society, and we have rewards from each other for doing good deeds or brave things.

But what drives us to do these things? Why are we always trying to find a better way of doing something? Could it be that we just can't do any better, because no one is really doing anything that is truly good?

Question everything, even yourself. Think about why you believe what you do, and what is the source of your information? What do the spiritual beings supposedly telling us about themselves? Where do spiritual ideas come from?

Thank you for your consideration. Voted interesting.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

You ask interesting questions, Ceegen, although I'm not sure which part of my article you're discussing. I believe that the truth - spiritual truth, any kind of truth - is one and the same, the paths are many. All religions have the seeds of truth in them, they all speak of love and oneness, but different people interpret it in different ways, according to their own nature.

What I write about is what I believe, anyone is welcome to question that information any way they like. I suggest to take what resonates with you, discard the rest.

As I writer, I seek to re-define reality and find meaning in a meaningless world. We all do. I do not seek to conform anyone to my world view. Thank you for reading and for the discussion.


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auspicious12day 3 years ago

Very informative and helpful.


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

"You ask interesting questions, Ceegen, although I'm not sure which part of my article you're discussing. I believe that the truth - spiritual truth, any kind of truth - is one and the same, the paths are many. All religions have the seeds of truth in them, they all speak of love and oneness, but different people interpret it in different ways, according to their own nature."

That is what I disagree with, honestly. I'll tell you why I disagree, as well. Please just listen for a moment, and read this as if someone was saying this to you. Heck, get someone else to read it to you, I don't care. Just stay with me for a minute or two.

Lots of religions out there claim to be true, espousing love and kindness. And yet, every single religion is either persecuted or is a perpetrator of persecution. Religion is merely our interpretation of spiritual things, like truth.

Pontius Pilate, asking Jesus a question once said "What is truth?"

I am sure you now know where this conversation will eventually lead to, and again I ask you, don't give up just yet. Stay with me.

If the bible is true, then ALL religions are wrong. That's the whole point of the bible. So, what is truth? How would we know what the truth really is? Are you sure that there are not spirits that are deceptive or evil? If humans are capable of deception, then aren't spirits also capable of deception?

And if there is such thing as spiritual truth, how would we know what it is or where to look for answers, concerning spiritual truths? If all religions have truth in them, then do they also have lies in them? Can all religions be 100% right, 100% of the time?

Obviously not, and something is seriously wrong with a world that is filled with violence. And if what the bible says is true about what the other "gods" out there really are, then their doctrines are in some way harmful to us, spiritually. It doesn't matter how "good" a religion is, we're all sinners. We're not spiritually evolving, which by the way is where naturalists stole the idea from: Reincarnation.

Because if the bible is true, then reincarnation can't be true. There is no "6th Chakra", it's a spiritual 3 card monty system. The bible says that we die once, and after this the judgement. That's it, one shot at eternity in paradise, because Lucifer would have us be lackadaisical with our lives thinking that there's an easier way of doing it when there really isn't. He just wants us to die. We're an abomination to him.

I'm not trying to get you into a church, I don't even attend church, but Jesus is Messiah, because the guy never sinned. There's only one Christ, not many, and religions have acted as if all were an authority on the matter when obviously they couldn't stop being violent.

All I'm saying is, give the guy that forgave his murderers a chance. I'm not condemning you. I'm not any more a good person than you are, really. I'll admit, I've been married and divorced, and now I've remarried and this time it's for real. I'm honestly trying my best here, and even I'm not perfect. But Jesus forgave his murderers? That's crazy! Who does that?

Be careful what spirits you talk to, friend, they are not out to do good things.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

I've read everything you've written Ceegen, and I appreciate your candor, but it seems to me that we're just too far apart in our worldviews. I'm glad that you've found a system of belief that suits you but I assure you, there is no need to go proselytizing as the search for the truth you're so fond of is highly idiosyncratic.

Does it mean that I'm talking to demons and you're talking to angels? According to you it does. Hence the impossibility of an actual discussion here. Still thanks for stopping by, I have nothing against Jesus, have a nice day


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

Idiosyncratic? I just see it as a logical progression of events and ideas.

Let the "gods" or "spirits" speak for themselves. Ask them the questions, and even ask them who Jesus Christ was or is. Pay close attention to what they say, if they even speak at all.

Thanks for your consideration. God bless you, and keep you safe from evil, amen.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Well, in my experience, spirits or beings of the highest order never speak with arrogance or intolerance. They'd never say "My religion is better than yours" - they don't even have religions, or "My god is better than yours", or "You are lesser than we are". Their message is always that of tolerance, love, acceptance and self-knowledge. I believe that's also what Jesus's message was.

I'm not sure who you speak of when you mention evil. There are some beings of lesser light out there, sure, but it doesn't characterize all of them. Just like one Jeffrey Duhmer doesn't characterize the entire human race. And I don't believe Duhmer was evil either; he was sick. Thank you for the discussion, blessings


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

Ahh! I can't leave it at that if you're going to come back with something like that, lol! Please forgive my badgering, but I love Jesus, and I think he has very valid points worth considering.

It isn't about which religion is "better", because who then is determining what is "better"? Under what conditions or precepts factors into our thought processes? What authority are we? What we believe to be true, becomes truth to us. But this isn't necessarily true, is it? Something isn't true, just because we say it is, right?

I grew up in Southern-California, and I was exposed to many different philosophies and doctrines. I was 14 years old when I read Erich von Däniken's "Chariots of the Gods?", and that same year read Anne Rice's "Interview With a Vampire". I watched a lot of paranormal shows, and was really into "The X-Files" growing up. I played a lot of video games. (I beat Bionic Comando and Contra on the NES. Not lying!).

At first, I was an Atheist, and then I moved into more of the "New Age" ideals. Stuff like positive energy and Karma. I couldn't explain some things, and my dad was an Illinois state policeman for 20 years, and participated in Project Blue Book. He even said UFOs exist, because he made reports on it.

It's not like I'm much different from any other person out there. Heck, I used to listen to Korn before they got real big. Living in SoCal gave me access to everything I ever thought I wanted. But it never satisfied. I always had more questions.

Always have more questions!

God bless you.


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jacope 3 years ago from Great Falls, MT

Ceegen, I find your views both interesting and perplexing at the same time. While I fully admit that I am not well informed in regards to the Bible, it has been a very long time since I have read it. I do know that reincarnation does exist. People generally go through lives here on Earth in order to learn something so they can ascend to a more ethereal (or higher) state. Religion, even the Bible, is meant to be a guide. This realm is Balance. Without Balance it, and we, would not exist. Without Darkness there can be no Light. It is those two sides that are the "superpowers" in this realm, not good and evil. A Light being can do evil deeds because it is necessary to maintain the Balance, just as a Dark being can do good deeds. There are those that have been Light and fallen, becoming Dark, and then become Light again. You say that it's crazy that Jesus forgave his murderers. Why? I have been murdered by the same demon in over 15 human lifetimes, and yet I have forgiven him and even claim him as my brother. It is up to us how we choose to live our lives. There are those who will guide us or push us, but in the end it's up to us, regardless of who or what we are, to decide. How can only one path be the right one when everything and everyone was created by the same source and set upon different paths of life? Kind of like a maze with the same beginning/ending point; no matter what path in the maze you take, eventually you will come back to where you started. And so will everyone else, even if they didn't take the same path you did.


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

"I do know that reincarnation does exist."

I thought that at one point in my life, too. I've seen people in recordings, in a trance-like state (hypnosis), channel information from harmful spiritual entities pretending to be something they are not. Because that is what hypnosis is, all under the power of suggestion, a channeling of spiritual beings. (I did mention I used to watch a lot of paranormal shows as a kid, right?)

Let me ask you a question, and this is for anyone really... Have you ever had a thought that shocked you? Have you ever thought of something, and said to yourself, "Why did I think that?" If so, here is my question: What if evil spirits are merely mimicking your voice and talking to you telepathically? It would be really hard to discern your thoughts from theirs, if this is possible!

This is why I ask everyone to question everything, even themselves.

"You say that it's crazy that Jesus forgave his murderers. Why?"

Because it is crazy. It's so crazy, that it worked. It convinced me to get out of the US Army. I served 7 years and I have an Honorable Discharge. I did not claim conscientious objector status, I just did not reenlist. I could no longer reconcile my violent nature with a man who I claim as Lord, who forgave the people who killed him. Violence never solves anything! It only continues the problem! (And no, I haven't killed anyone, thank God!)

Jesus changed me from the inside out, and if he can change me, he can change anyone. Have you ever seen Brian "Head" Welch's testimony? One one of the guys from the band Korn, who turned to Jesus? We can argue all the details of religion if we want, but who can argue with a changed person?

I know you said you are not well informed of the bible and what-not, and that's okay I'm still learning too, but allow me to quote something for you and then tie it all together:

Matthew ch22

v35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

v36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

v37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Is it really so hard to just love God? Don't let hypocritical Christians dissuade us from loving God, he said wolves in sheep's clothing would show up, because they always do. They're only trying to fill their wallets and satisfy their bellies. I certainly don't want any of your money, I just want your time, and I am happy to see that my words are being read and considered.

Again, thank you for your time, I can't stress that enough!


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jacope 3 years ago from Great Falls, MT

Ceegan, in response to what you have said about past lives, that is not what I am talking about. I speak of memories. I know things I have done and things that have happened to me from other lives. As for voices, I am unlike most people in that unless I am actively thinking something I do not have "voices" or "mental noise". It is only by concentrating very hard and lowering a great many shields that anything comes through to me. I am more likely to feel something than to hear it. But when I do hear "voices" they are distinctly "other" not just in sound but in feel as well, so I have never really had that "why did I think that" thought or feeling. So no it is not hard to figure out if it is someone else or you, not if you pay attention. The hard part is getting others to believe without them dismissing you or making you feel like you are crazy. Just because you can't do something or feel something or see something doesn't make it any less real.

However that said, Dark beings will use anything and everything they can to make you doubt. They are master manipulators. If they make you doubt not just yourself but the Source (or God by whatever name you choose to use) then they have accomplished their task.

In your quote you said "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." This does not say what you have to call said God. Any whom believe are in fact doing just what was said, they are just doing it in different ways. So no it isn't hard to love God, everyone in the world that believes does. Most just seem to be more preoccupied with arguing over insignificant details than actually doing it. They focus more on words than actions. Can you truly say that you spend more time with the doing part than you do with the words? This is one reason I rarely speak to others of my beliefs, or debate religion or politics; because my path is my own and just because I believe something doesn't mean it is the only way, just that it is mine. That is the Law of Belief. Every being's belief is their own truth. It is through being open minded and learning from others without judgement that one evolves and ascends. But how often do people actually do that, consistently or at all?


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

"Most just seem to be more preoccupied with arguing over insignificant details than actually doing it. They focus more on words than actions. Can you truly say that you spend more time with the doing part than you do with the words?"

It's true, it really is. Lots of Christians have nothing to show for all their supposed knowledge of God. I'm not special; I'm guilty of all the good things I've never done. Everyone is though! If we spend all our time pointing fingers, nothing ever gets done! Satan is strong in the churches, causing confusion and getting people to argue about everything.

But I have tried doing my best. When I lived down in Virginia I fed homeless people, and being that I was in the Army I knew they needed supplies and not just food. Toothbrushes and tooth paste, toilet paper, paper plates and plastic utensils, soap and deodorant, rags and small towels, a small medicine chest, and a bible as well as anything else you can think of should go into a backpack that you can just give to these people. They need it.

We don't study and learn about the Vedas or how to meditate properly, unless we first read and study it, do we? People even pay money to go to Yoga classes, and learn about self discipline and control when they go to Kung-Fu or Judo classes. Likewise for a Christian, faith without works is a dead faith, but faith without knowledge of God is no faith at all. We must study what God says in order to know who God is and what he wants from us. The words are just as important, but we pray and let the spirit of God lead us to the truth. It may even be a slow process, but it changed what I believed to be true!

"This is one reason I rarely speak to others of my beliefs, or debate religion or politics; because my path is my own and just because I believe something doesn't mean it is the only way, just that it is mine."

Religion and politics is nothing but a primrose path, something we come up with to satisfy our consciousness in order to shut it up, when we know deep down that something is missing.

"That is the Law of Belief. Every being's belief is their own truth. It is through being open minded and learning from others without judgement that one evolves and ascends. But how often do people actually do that, consistently or at all?"

Don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out of your skull, a wise person once told me.

"Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding." - Proverbs ch3, v5.

And what the LORD says is very important with regards to trusting him. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, and no one goes to God except through Jesus. I know people want to believe in something perfect, but are set back by all the hypocrisy and evil in the world. Lots of churches make you jump through hoops to be "saved" and it just isn't true! Don't let other people's sins keep us from getting to know God, through the perfect example he set in Jesus Christ. There is not many paths, only one, and even a great many Christians miss the mark.


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HolidayGiftIdea 3 years ago

This is a super cool hub! Thanks!


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jacope 3 years ago from Great Falls, MT

Ceegen, I feel like you missed 99% of what I meant.


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Mai-Kera 3 years ago from West Virginia

Ceegan,

While I thank you for your service in the military, and accept your beliefs, you're just dictating you faith on the rest of us. This article wasn't even criticizing your belief structure or your belief system. You used it as a medium to try and "change" the rest of us. Why do you care so much if I, or Jacope, or Kalinin1158 believe in your one true God? Kalinin1158, just wanted to write on how to unblock spiritual abilities. If you're not interested in that, don't write comments about how "wrong" she is for believing as much as you are, about something she knows about.

Oh, and as for the Bible:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9yvm8h8GnY


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

To hell with my military service, it means nothing to me. I will not use that as a crutch in discussion, I was only pointing out the fact that I got out of military service because of my dedication in trying to follow the example of Jesus. I'm not dictating my faith on the rest of you, I'm only repeating what I know to be true to incite discussion. If you're offended by that, well, I don't know what to tell you. Jesus and his doctrine shouldn't offend anyone.

But, just as my comments aren't necessarily necessary here, neither are any of your replies. We choose to continue talking about it, because we're all stubborn. That's just human nature.

And don't worry jacope, the feeling is mutual. I don't think you understand what I am saying, because of your self-admitted lack of biblical knowledge. That isn't a jab at you, it's just a matter of the facts. So trying to prove my position with biblical things, isn't working.

Just another question though about your feeling that reincarnation is true, based on supposed memories of past lives and what-not. Is it possible that evil spiritual entities can implant false memories, or even change your emotional responses to certain things, if you open yourself up to them? Just to get you to believe something, that may not be true? Anything is possible, right?

Don't mistake the urgency of my messages with that of spite, because I truly believe that evil spiritual entities are trying to lead you away from God. Prove to me they aren't, and I might just shut up.

Penn and Teller, really? If you want, I'll write an entire hub about why the video is wrong. Interested in reading it?


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jacope 3 years ago from Great Falls, MT

Question Ceegan, how is it a discussion when you seem to be repeating the same things in different ways over and over? How do you know what you believe is the truth? My not understanding has very little to do with a lack of biblical knowledge and everything to do with the fact that you are going around in circles with what you are saying and very little of it seems to pertain to what any of us have asked you. You seem to be so fanatical in your faith because, as you have said, you have never had anything in your life that challenged it. Have you had multiple family members die within years of each other? Have you had to watch a loved one suffer with a debilitating disease for years? To watch them slowly wasting away and dying in front of you? Have you seen death so much in your life that it holds no fear for you because you know, and have seen, there are things worse than death? What has challenged your faith and shaken you to your very core? If you have a demon attack you, how do you get rid of it? Demons don't need you to "open yourself up to them" to mess with you and your life. Evil entities, as you call them, are things that I have faced my entire life. Have you? What has ever tried to destroy you? I remember things from past lives that would make even battle hardened soldiers pee themselves from sheer terror. I am a warrior of the Light, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I've been in Hell, I've been in the Darkness, and I've come back out. You have no need to worry about my faith in the Source, by whatever name you choose to use, because I know this body is only temporary and so much more will happen after it is dust. Your "urgency" is wasted on me. I know who and what I am, and what I stand for. Do you?

Have you ever considered that not everyone who is in a human body, a human life, is actually human? There are more things and people beyond this earthly existence than you could probably imagine. How do you know it's not you who is being convinced to believe something to pull you into the Darkness? You seem to be happily letting things outside of you dictate your life and beliefs without question. And you also do not seem to give credence to what anyone believes if it differs even slightly from what you believe. You have not lived their life, or even have a clue what experiences or knowledge they have, and yet you refuse to accept that what may be right for you is not right for them. Not every belief system works for every person. That's why there are multiple ones and always have been. No two people have the exact same experiences or live the same lives, so WHY would they believe the exact same things? Take a look at myths and legends around the world. In northern civilizations that had harsh winters and short growing seasons the people believed the sun was feminine and life giving where as to people in southern and equatorial regions the sun was viewed as masculine and a destructive force. The sun didn't change but the lives of the people did, so they had different beliefs. Even in this day and age that hasn't truly changed. People aren't much different either, 90% still fear anything different or unknown and try to destroy it. Sometimes it's with words and sometimes it's with force, or it's both.

When was the last time that you took a really deep look within yourself and looked at the way you treat others? And I don't mean just the people, but their beliefs and culture too. How many times have you had people disrespect you because you don't believe the exact same thing that they do? How many times have you don't that to others? All of those of us who have responded to your comments have not said your beliefs are wrong, but you have treated us that way. We have just said that we do not believe what you do and that we have no desire to do so and stated, in some cases, a little bit about what we believe to give you a little bit of perspective. It is not Jesus and his doctrine that anyone has a problem with, it's people that try to force their beliefs on us that we have a problem with. You say there is only one way and we say there are multiple. Those are our respective beliefs, end of story. I know what I have experienced and what I believe in and it doesn't fit in the box you seem very intent on trying to shove it into. Just be aware that not all people are as tolerant as we are on here and the ones you come across in person normally aren't afraid to knock you on your butt if you try to tell them what they believe is "wrong" and that they need to prove that they aren't "being led away from God". Respect others beliefs and they will most likely do the same for you, even if it's for no other reason than because they just couldn't care less about you or your beliefs. When you don't it's a very good possibility that someone is going to tell you to shut up and take a flying leap off the tallest cliff you can find and make sure there are lots of sharp rocks at the bottom for you to meet when you get there. Some might even be willing to help you find the cliff and help you off it. But in general most of us are too polite to do that.


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Mai-Kera 3 years ago from West Virginia

Ceegen,

You are, in fact, a coward. Hiding behind the Bible as an Orator of faith when your God preaches love, but practices violence. You've stated in previous posts that you hate violence, but you promote a God that lives in it. That's tainted with the blood of millions. Now, you yourself probably promote a life of peace, but that's not what your God promotes. How can you preach about a Bible that's riddled with death? With the loss of millions, and then out of these ashes, there's the promise of some sort of redemption? But redemption for who? The blind sheep that follow the doctrine, like you? Will there be a place for you? You've said yourself that you don't follow the laws governed by this God. Why not? If the Bible is truth, then, by that logic will you be found in the depths of Hell for not following it to a T? What's the point in trying to convert others, when I am damned to Hell just by my conception? I agree with you, for the most part, the Bible teaches people through story and fable (not fact), to live a good life. Those that do good end up in paradise. But most Christians, like yourself, pick and choose which commandments, which laws to follow, so that you can feel good about yourself. Let's take this one, shall we?

Exodus 22: 18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

I'm a witch. I was a Christian until I went up against something very Dark in the name of God. I lost that battle. Almost my life. He didn't have any answers for me, so I turned. But let's see. Your religion teaches you to exorcise, burn the devil out of me. And thousands, possibly millions of others. But during the Inquisition, most women that were accused, were not witches, but land owners. So, the Church would brand them heretics and have them tortured, or raped, or burned. And then take that unclaimed land for God. Wow, what a loving God to allow His followers to destroy the lives of thousands to take land for Himself. I still hear a lot of guff for this one, from Christians. That the law doesn't need to be followed anymore because of the fear back in the 1500's. That God was just "burning the devil" out of all those women, it was justified. Justification for murder? Surely, a loving God, one that promotes the right path, the True path, wouldn't let these men get away with the murder of thousands of women. Do you think those Holy men of God are rotting in your Hell?

Deuteronomy 8-10 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."

I'm sure you're breaking this one. But why? This is a Commandment! The true word of God that spoke to Moses to keep the faithful. If the Bible is fact, and all the laws must be kept, why are you breaking this one? The Cross. The symbol of Christian faith. You do have one, right? I know I wore one for the better part of a decade. It was a symbol of my faith. Too bad I was breaking this commandment. Do you have a crucifix on your wall? Still breaking that Commandment. Jealous God? How can a jealous God promote a life of peace and benevolence? Jealousy is a Cardinal Sin. So, if Bible is fact, your God is both good and evil? And you're still preaching about a better life? Sounds like a book that's full of antagonizing laws. When I needed help, it wasn't there for me. When you need help, it won't be there for you.

But I think that's beyond the point. You have a soft life. I'm in no position to tell you how to live your life. But I really wish that you would let me live mine. If Jesus is what kick starts your morning, there's nothing I can say to you to change your mind. If you want to write a hub on Penn and Teller, go for it! They're con artists and magicians, but they're not wrong. They often don't practice what they preach either. But they're not trying to dictate how to live my life.

As for your evil entities, I've seen far more evil entities that have followed the Christian path, than those who follow my own. My husband follows the Luciferian path. And before your Jesus-y radar pops up, we're not talking about Satanics.

Henry Neufeld (a Christian who comments on Biblical sticky issues) went on to say,

"this passage is often related to Satan, and a similar thought is expressed in Luke 10:18 by Jesus, that was not its first meaning. It's primary meaning is given in Isaiah 14:4 which says that when Israel is restored they will "take up this taunt against the king of Babylon . . ." Verse 12 is a part of this taunt song. This passage refers first to the fall of that earthly king...

How does the confusion in translating this verse arise? The Hebrew of this passage reads: "heleyl, ben shachar" which can be literally translated "shining one, son of dawn." This phrase means, again literally, the planet Venus when it appears as a morning star. In the Septuagint, a 3rd century BC translation of the Hebrew scriptures into Greek, it is translated as "heosphoros" which also means Venus as a morning star.

How did the translation "lucifer" arise? This word comes from Jerome's Latin Vulgate. Was Jerome in error? Not at all. In Latin at the time, "lucifer" actually meant Venus as a morning star. Isaiah is using this metaphor for a bright light, though not the greatest light to illustrate the apparent power of the Babylonian king which then faded."

If you spent more time with history, and less time with trying to prove to the rest of us that you're right, maybe, you'd also become more "Enlightened."


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

"Question Ceegan, how is it a discussion when you seem to be repeating the same things in different ways over and over?"

What did I repeat, over and over?

"How do you know what you believe is the truth?"

What if I claim I don't know the truth? I don't know it all. I'm just asking you to question everything, even me. Thank you for catching on!

"My not understanding has very little to do with a lack of biblical knowledge and everything to do with the fact that you are going around in circles with what you are saying and very little of it seems to pertain to what any of us have asked you. You seem to be so fanatical in your faith because, as you have said, you have never had anything in your life that challenged it."

Well, that is simply not true. I'm challenged with my faith on a daily basis. It's weird how as soon as I start talking about this stuff, what some people say is startling! Grotesque, even. As if me talking about Jesus, is somehow offensive? I just don't understand where this emotional response comes from. Can't we just discuss it rationally, as adults? There is no malice in my words dear friend, know that much first and trust it. I have no hidden agenda, because yes, I will admit I want to convert you even though I know it isn't me that does the saving in the first place. I just wanted to share with you, that I really find the most satisfying inner peace by knowing that God loves me so much, he paid for my sins with his own blood. That's really deep, no matter how you look at it.

"Have you had multiple family members die within years of each other?"

Yes. My father died when I was 15 and my grandfather on my mom's side died when I was 17. I didn't talk to people much, very antisocial, because I was very depressed.

"Have you had to watch a loved one suffer with a debilitating disease for years?"

My dad died from living with diabetes for 10 years. His kidneys finally failed, and dialysis was too expensive.

"To watch them slowly wasting away and dying in front of you?"

Diabetes is a horrible disease.

"Have you seen death so much in your life that it holds no fear for you because you know, and have seen, there are things worse than death?"

Yup. I grew up in Southern-California. We lived in a very cheap apartment complex, because that's all we could afford. I've had a knife held to my throat, and have been propositioned for sex in exchange for money. I've been in a foster home twice. I've been 100% homeless 3 times. I've been married and divorced, and have custody of my only son.

Things have been getting better, I am obviously not homeless now. I know the world is a cruel and unforgiving place, but what causes it? Question everything.

"What has challenged your faith and shaken you to your very core?"

Now that I know what faith really is, I don't even own a gun. I left the Army on good terms, because of Jesus. He really changed me, from the inside out. Nothing challenges my faith anymore; I have no doubts.

"If you have a demon attack you, how do you get rid of it?"

I am redeemed by guiltless blood, demons fear the name of Jesus Christ.

"Demons don't need you to "open yourself up to them" to mess with you and your life."

I will not argue with that, if that is what you believe to be true. I just happen to disagree.

"Evil entities, as you call them, are things that I have faced my entire life. Have you?"

Absolutely, yes I have.

"What has ever tried to destroy you?"

While in the US Army I was a part of the 2010 Haiti relief effort. A standard ISO container full of medical supplies, fresh water and rice weighing nearly 20 tons, tried to kill me. I can only tell you that the circumstances behind me not dying, was in fact... Divine intervention.

"I remember things from past lives that would make even battle hardened soldiers pee themselves from sheer terror."

Empathy is a trait humans are capable of, scientifically verifiable. So while you may feel emotions connected to visions... I can't tell you it isn't real, I can only tell you that it might be in your best interests to rebuke the darkness. Only by one name does the darkness flee.

"I am a warrior of the Light, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I've been in Hell, I've been in the Darkness, and I've come back out. You have no need to worry about my faith in the Source, by whatever name you choose to use, because I know this body is only temporary and so much more will happen after it is dust. Your "urgency" is wasted on me. I know who and what I am, and what I stand for. Do you?"

I stand for the Jesus, the Living God, who loves us all very, very much. All the bad things that ever happened to me, has opened up my eyes to why it happens in the first place. You ever read the story of Job? A righteous man, persecuted by The Adversary? Job might have questioned God, but he never cursed him. Satan lost that bet. Satan lost this bet, too. I am free.

But hey, thanks for asking so many questions. I have nothing to hide. Keep asking questions if you must, but I don't hide behind a virtual persona of falsehoods. This is really me. My name is James, by the way.


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

"You are, in fact, a coward. Hiding behind the Bible as an Orator of faith when your God preaches love, but practices violence. You've stated in previous posts that you hate violence, but you promote a God that lives in it. That's tainted with the blood of millions. Now, you yourself probably promote a life of peace, but that's not what your God promotes. How can you preach about a Bible that's riddled with death?"

Would you prefer a world where God doesn't punish sin? If you only knew what some "good" people have done, and then suddenly tragedy befalls them! Coincidences... I don't believe in coincidences any more.

"With the loss of millions, and then out of these ashes, there's the promise of some sort of redemption? But redemption for who? The blind sheep that follow the doctrine, like you? Will there be a place for you? You've said yourself that you don't follow the laws governed by this God. Why not? If the Bible is truth, then, by that logic will you be found in the depths of Hell for not following it to a T?"

Everyone who lives by the law will die by the law, I am no exception. We're all sinners, but we're all forgiven. It's really no problem at all, but we are told to "go, and sin no more."

At least I'm trying, is my point. I'm no better than you. I'm condemned to death just like everyone else, because one day we're all going to be dead anyway. Right?

"What's the point in trying to convert others, when I am damned to Hell just by my conception? I agree with you, for the most part, the Bible teaches people through story and fable (not fact), to live a good life. Those that do good end up in paradise. But most Christians, like yourself, pick and choose which commandments, which laws to follow, so that you can feel good about yourself. Let's take this one, shall we?

Exodus 22: 18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.""

Yeah, and? Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. I'm a sinner, I can't cast stones. But it takes a sinner to know a sinner.

"I'm a witch. I was a Christian until I went up against something very Dark in the name of God. I lost that battle. Almost my life. He didn't have any answers for me, so I turned. But let's see. Your religion teaches you to exorcise, burn the devil out of me. And thousands, possibly millions of others. But during the Inquisition, most women that were accused, were not witches, but land owners."

Did you know that hundreds and maybe thousands of bibles printed in common languages were burned, and their authors and printers killed? It was against the law at the time, to print a bible in anything but Latin. They didn't want us to have the truth. They wanted to be middlemen, in order to extract money and power from people.

"So, the Church would brand them heretics and have them tortured, or raped, or burned. And then take that unclaimed land for God. Wow, what a loving God to allow His followers to destroy the lives of thousands to take land for Himself."

They also persecuted Jews. I am of Jewish descent. I traced the origins of my family back to a small coastal town in Ireland, which suddenly had a population increase sometime between 1402 to 1521 from Spain and/or Portugal.

"I still hear a lot of guff for this one, from Christians. That the law doesn't need to be followed anymore because of the fear back in the 1500's. That God was just "burning the devil" out of all those women, it was justified. Justification for murder? Surely, a loving God, one that promotes the right path, the True path, wouldn't let these men get away with the murder of thousands of women. Do you think those Holy men of God are rotting in your Hell?"

Uhh yeah I do believe that those "holy men" of Satan are going to be in hell for all their evil deeds:

2nd Corinthians, ch11

14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

"Deuteronomy 8-10 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."

I'm sure you're breaking this one."

How are you so sure? Because honestly, I'm not. I think about God ALL the time. I can't get thoughts about God or Jesus out of my head. It's all I ever want to talk about. I love God.

"But why? This is a Commandment! The true word of God that spoke to Moses to keep the faithful. If the Bible is fact, and all the laws must be kept, why are you breaking this one? The Cross. The symbol of Christian faith. You do have one, right? I know I wore one for the better part of a decade. It was a symbol of my faith. Too bad I was breaking this commandment. Do you have a crucifix on your wall? Still breaking that Commandment. Jealous God? How can a jealous God promote a life of peace and benevolence? Jealousy is a Cardinal Sin. So, if Bible is fact, your God is both good and evil? And you're still preaching about a better life? Sounds like a book that's full of antagonizing laws. When I needed help, it wasn't there for me. When you need help, it won't be there for you."

I don't have any graven images on my walls, not even a cross. But just know that it isn't an idol, it is the very testament of faith: An empty cross. He is not here, for he is risen!

"But I think that's beyond the point. You have a soft life. I'm in no position to tell you how to live your life. But I really wish that you would let me live mine. If Jesus is what kick starts your morning, there's nothing I can say to you to change your mind. If you want to write a hub on Penn and Teller, go for it! They're con artists and magicians, but they're not wrong. They often don't practice what they preach either. But they're not trying to dictate how to live my life."

Yeah but their childish behavior when commenting on the bible, shows how much they don't understand it. Sure, evil things happened in the bible. That's the whole point. Evil happened. Why did evil happen? I might have an answer, but, you may not like it. I'll just shut up now.

"As for your evil entities, I've seen far more evil entities that have followed the Christian path, than those who follow my own. My husband follows the Luciferian path. And before your Jesus-y radar pops up, we're not talking about Satanics."

Rofl, okay.

"Henry Neufeld (a Christian who comments on Biblical sticky issues) went on to say,

"this passage is often related to Satan, and a similar thought is expressed in Luke 10:18 by Jesus, that was not its first meaning. It's primary meaning is given in Isaiah 14:4 which says that when Israel is restored they will "take up this taunt against the king of Babylon . . ." Verse 12 is a part of this taunt song. This passage refers first to the fall of that earthly king...

How does the confusion in translating this verse arise? The Hebrew of this passage reads: "heleyl, ben shachar" which can be literally translated "shining one, son of dawn." This phrase means, again literally, the planet Venus when it appears as a morning star. In the Septuagint, a 3rd century BC translation of the Hebrew scriptures into Greek, it is translated as "heosphoros" which also means Venus as a morning star.

How did the translation "lucifer" arise? This word comes from Jerome's Latin Vulgate. Was Jerome in error? Not at all. In Latin at the time, "lucifer" actually meant Venus as a morning star. Isaiah is using this metaphor for a bright light, though not the greatest light to illustrate the apparent power of the Babylonian king which then faded."

If you spent more time with history, and less time with trying to prove to the rest of us that you're right, maybe, you'd also become more "Enlightened.""

They worshiped the "host of heaven"; the planets. Lucifer the light-bearer! Metaphor!


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Oh God...Ceegen, why so many words when your whole philosophy can be summarized as follows: "Jesus"? Lets not start a Hub war here :-) I congratulate you on your closeness to God but don't make a mistake of assuming that everyone who's not into Jesus the way you are is lost. If you are of Jewish descent and you know your history, you know that hundreds of thousands of Jews were forcibly converted to Christianity, tortured or killed by people just like you - devout Christians who truly believed they were saving them from hell. And come on, are you really comparing the savage prosecution of millions of innocent women in the middle ages to that of the bible printers?

Look, we've already established that we all have different views and beliefs. The difference is, we accept your beliefs, but as Jacope said, you don't give us the same courtesy. You said "If the bible is true, then ALL religions are wrong." Mai-Kera was merely pointing out the numerous inconsistencies it contains. You are aware of those, right? You said there's no reincarnation. You said there's no Third Eye. That one is my favorite - it's like saying there is no left arm.

All I'm saying is: you gotta respect other people's beliefs even if you don't agree with them. Because you want people to respect your beliefs, right? "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you." Some guy said it somewhere...Peace


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Ceegen 3 years ago from Maine, USA

All I'm saying is, don't totally disregard the bible, just because a bunch of wolves in sheep's clothing make the rest of us look bad. The sins of supposed "Christians" shouldn't be a reason to reject God, is it? Does it make sense to punish God for the faults of others? Did God really order the Crusades, or was it just a land-grab by greedy nobles trying to retake land lost to the spread of Islam?

And you gotta understand, in the Old Testament, yes God commanded the Israelites to put down entire pagan villages. Horrible atrocities, I know. But these pagan villages were going to war with each other and taking captives to sacrifice to their gods, because they were fond of sacrificing other people before sacrificing one of their own. It isn't like the pagan societies of the time were much more morally superior, with things like infanticide and human sacrifice to name just a few. No one was innocent, and life was cheap.

Do you reject your gods for atrocities done in their name? Come now, let's be honest here! Many governments throughout time, being controlled by a central figure (king or queen) or a ruling body (Greece's Democracy vs the Republic of Rome), used religion as a means to an end to gain power over others. Genghis Khan was a shaman, and look at how many people he killed, and really what for? What did he accomplish? What did Alexander or Constantine "the Great" really achieve?

"You are aware of those, right? You said there's no reincarnation. You said there's no Third Eye. That one is my favorite - it's like saying there is no left arm."

The only inconsistencies with the bible is merely our interpretation of it, hence why there are so many religions, all with their own interpretation. I don't claim to know every detail of the bible, I'm still studying it, but it makes more sense to me if I find out the root of these supposed contradictions. (Hint: A lot of them come from none other than the Roman Catholic Church!)

And yes, I said I don't believe in reincarnation. I have my reasons, but the third eye thing... It's not just a gland in your head. We are all spiritual beings, made by the Lord of spirits, and if he wants to talk to you... Whether or not your pineal gland is activated, he'll talk to you. I agree that taking care of our bodies is a good thing, and I believe there are valid conspiracies behind all the chemicals in food and water which calcifies it. (I'm a bit of a conspiracy nut, or so I've been told).

Anyway, yeah I am sorry for the long replies, but there were a lot of questions that I felt compelled to answer.


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jacope 3 years ago from Great Falls, MT

Kalinin,

I think you summed up what I was saying rather well so I don't think there is any point in saying anything more, especially when the person it has been directed at has either completely missed it repeatedly or is just completely disregarding everything said. I dislike repeating myself over & over, it's a waste of time & energy better spent elsewhere. Thank you again for the wonderful hub.


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SkySlave 3 years ago from Olympia, WA

Absolutely fantastic! One of the best articles i read in days. Refreshing to say the least! I truly hope others will take this writing for all that its worth and begin reaching to the endless horizons. Cheers to the unlimited!

- With open arms i embrace you with my minds eye. Reinstating my connection with you and everything known and unknown. Meeting again, weve always been, a blink in the eyes of infinity,

All my love,

Skyler


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sparkster 3 years ago from United Kingdom

Excellent hub, this is something I have been trying to find the time to research. You've provided a great amount of information.


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Thank you so much, Skyler. This is probably one of the nicest comments anyone had ever left me. That's why it took me a while to respond :-) It's been a pleasure to meet you again, and to re-connect with you after such a long time. Love and peace,

Lana


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Thank you Sparkster. I've been researching it for a while and there's still a lot more I couldn't fit in :-)


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Kukata Kali 3 years ago

Great Hub! This is the kind of information that needs to be continuously spread thru our avenues of communication. Loved your expression on it.

Voted up :)


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kalinin1158 3 years ago from California Author

Thank you Kukata Kali! This is wonderful feedback and hopefully more and more people will awaken their pineal gland :-)


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Kukata Kali 2 years ago

You're welcome. I think it may be happening more than we realize now. :)


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Brian Prickril 2 years ago from Savannah, GA

Fascinating and well written. I am scared to death of toothpaste now. Just kidding, but I really do desire a healthy pineal gland after reading this. I meditate everyday and also cleanse and balance my chakras. Hopefully this will go a long way towards cleaning up that gland.


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kalinin1158 2 years ago from California Author

Yeah, welcome to my world where toothpaste is evil and the world government is plotting to keep us down spiritually ;-) Meditation REALLY helps, it's the best thing you can do, but changing your toothpaste brand is quite easy and doesn't require big lifestyle changes. :-) It's great that you meditate everyday, I am less disciplined ...


Wildblue09 2 years ago

Reality

From the Cree Tribe, wired with the Haplogroup X-2 DNA, in my 61st year, 1500 + sweat-lodge trips to the Eagle’s Domain (the great void where all potentiality resides). I’ve lived a wonderful exciting life (lucky in love) and have studied our native cultural wisdom and anybody else’s with any substance.

This past year I was seriously injured falling a large Alder tree and came to a place in healing retrospection, asking myself what was my relationship with reality? I came away from that with the obvious, “I did not have a functioning relationship with Reality”.

Every teacher from time immemorial was trying to teach us (without actually saying it of course) that as beings we possessed tremendous unused spirit consciousness resources, and in each their own way, attempted to share their insights on how to access and utilize these, to our benefit. The wisdom of the ages can all be distilled down to onboard brain chemical secretions, specifically the atrophied but golden pituitary and pineal (DMT) glands. The ancients left us the trancendental schematic, the Caduceus Symbol reminding us that the path to enlightenment, was and is brain glandular secretions. The ancient symbol is missunderstood and has been reduced to a shirt logo for ambulance drivers.

Anyone who has lit a DMT pipe will tell you the brain is capable of processing 10,000 years of intense experiential data in only 10 fr*kin minutes. Unbelievable brain bandwidths are available to each and everyone of us. Our DNA designers did not leave us the owner’s manual and that has left us in this lobotomized brain state with atrophied pituitary and pineal (DMT) glands. Fortunately they can be quickly rejuvenated and brought back on line seriously kicking up the brain bandwidths. Personal Sovereignty is a real achievable possibility. To learn a simple "duck to water" gland rejuvenation technique and kick up the brain bandwidth, go to: http://fukushima50.blogspot.ca/

The reality is we are living in an age of consciousness without a functioning relationship with reality. We need to get over the fact that from a cosmological perspective, we are an emerging civilization with a multiple history as a failed society in the process of blowing it again for the umpteen time.

Of necessity, a functioning relationship with reality includes, Gnosticism, Alchemy, ET, Archons, Lockheed Martin Ben Rich’s alumni disclosure, knowledge of the advanced civilizations who built the precision stone megaliths (that we can not build today), being present to nature's process of creating matter from information encoded energy, LENR, that consciousness and matter are quantumly coupled, rejuvenated pituitary and pineal (DMT) glands, the value of service, a loving family and the wilful intention to have a source connected relationship with reality.

With these in place we have a chance to be in the cosmic game called life and without them we are basically hooped.

Sovereignty


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kalinin1158 2 years ago from California Author

Hi Sovereignty,

You definitely bring an interesting perspective to the table, and a more in-depth approach to the subject of the pineal gland activation. I did not focus so much on the pituitary gland, but you're right, they are both extremely important.

Also, your post prompted me to ask myself: do I have a functioning relationship with Reality? The answer is "no" for me as well, although I do delve into things like Gnosticism, Alchemy, ET etc. There's still a lot to learn, and to remember.

Thanks for your comment,

Lana


Wildblue09 2 years ago

Lana,

There is a lot of DMT joy riding going on these days, and while that is fun the design calls for the pituitary to drive, in a regulating balance context, the pineal (DMT). Once the atrophied glands have been rejuvenated they secrete on autopilot. In the last while I had to stretch my brain a bit writing the gold making patent and I would literally stagger down the hallway going from my home office to the kitchen for tea (near blink out point dosage).

Yes indeed, more to remember than learn.

Sovereignty


Deborah Sexton 2 years ago

This is wonderful and much needed information. Thank you for this hub. I will try some of these remedied. I have always sought the spiritual, so maybe with the combination of the other things, I can decalcify my pineal gland


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kalinin1158 2 years ago from California Author

It's definitely worth your time! And some of the things here are so simple, anyone can do them given that they want to. And I think that if you always sought out the spiritual, your spiritual senses may not have atrophied as much as most people's.


Deborah Sexton 2 years ago

That should have said "I will try some of these remedies"

I go through periods of great knowledge and spiritual power and love, then for a while through neutral times, one after the other. But I am always within the spiritual realm, prayer, meditation, and great blessings.

Great hub


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sshamans420 22 months ago from Crescent City, California

LOVE THIS HUB PAGE! Can't wait to show it to my pain specialist!


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kalinin1158 22 months ago from California Author

Thank you Sshamans420! I'm glad this information spoke to you and I sincerely hope that whatever pain you're dealing with - whether physical or emotional, that you can find relief and deeper connection to the Source. Peace :)


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sshamans420 22 months ago from Crescent City, California

I don't let wisdom easily pass me by when I recognize it. Truth will always be truth, as well as a lie will always be a lie. No mater how hard some people will try to disquise, distort or monipulate it. Just got great vibes from this page. New to this, "Social Networking", experiment or whatever its called. I'm an outdoors person, medically disabled in pain and trapped indoors. (Not a happy camper!) I'm an introvert, so I like to find answers, experiment, hypothasise and meditate.

From your avitar and references, if I'm not mistaken, you know your Tryptamines. (?) Just an observation. K,k,k,k,k.....! I like to meditate and practice safe sacrament and entheiogen rites for holistic, medicinel and spiritual enlightenment. With all the caution and respect that they so deserve. I am able to meditate and stimulate or reproduce most enzymes and chemical compounds, naturally found in the human brain and body, but only up to a point. Along with the escentials listed abouve, nutrition, entheogens, spices and surroundings have to be entered into the equation. Sometimes this is not enough to gain access to a stage, level or alternate state. That is where Tryptamines come into play. If you understand Trptamines, then you'll have a better understanding, on how the body and mind work. If you could activate the imagination, trust and love, that you once had as a child, along with the understanding, experience and reasoning of an adult? Leaving all negative, emotion and mental mind set behind, to be rebourn again? Of course you would. Who wouldn't? This is crucial to our understanding of nature, survival as a species and our evolution. The mind is a never ending frontier, to be opened, unlocked and explored.

Peace,

Luv.

Hope to read and see more from you on this topic, with additional information on meditation, Tryptamines and other kind surprises!


wildblue09 22 months ago

Lana,

Glad to see that you are maintaining the discussion on the article. It is a great article and pineal gland resource. They should know as well that while these golden brain glands (don't forget the pituitary) maybe in an atrophied state, they want to play. Once we get the secretions moving again they bloom pretty much on their own. Breath work is an important aspect of all this but the Caduceus is the key. That spinal core fluid can be chased up to the underside of the brain and with pressure secrete the golden glands. Sovereignty


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kalinin1158 22 months ago from California Author

Sshamans420,

I'm also an introvert, and tryptamines certainly have my respect, when done correctly. Now they're difficult to even come across. In the past I've done a number of healing sessions, which were basically explorations of the repressed material, for the most part. If I continued, I would have eventually gotten through to other layers. Like you said, the mind is a never ending frontier... Thank you for commenting, I will continue writing on these topics, and hope you'll stop by again :)


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Vagabond Laborer 21 months ago

Interesting and informative article. I have had experiences with The Third Eye, and this clarified some questions which I have had.


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kalinin1158 21 months ago from California Author

Thank you, Vagabond! I'm glad you've found this information useful. And I'm curious about your Third Eye experiences. Care to share? Be safe in all your travels!


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somethgblue 20 months ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

Awesome, with your permission of course, I would like to link this to my Pineal Gland The God Organ article, which has over 26,000 page views.

This article needs to be shared far and wide, for everyone to see, well researched and written. Especially good timing, considering the events taking place on Gaia right now.

I will do all I can to drive readers to this as it is information everyone needs to awaken and move towards Ascension, thank you.


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kalinin1158 20 months ago from California Author

I'm very touched, somethgblue. I believe deeply in the power of sharing the information and giving people the tools to ascend or at least become more aware. When we (lightworkers) collaborate, great things can happen! Of course you have my permission, and THANK YOU so much. I wish you a safe and happy transition in these changing times. Blessings :)


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somethgblue 20 months ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee

This Friday's solar eclipse will mark the beginning of a new age, in terms of how folks will change their way of thinking. They will begin to take notice of our changing world and how our thoughts can literally manifest as reality.

This will cause many folks that are currently sitting on the spiritual fence to wake up. The spiritual awakening Gaia is currently undergoing will begin to snowball towards Ascension. Millions of people will simply ignore the Fake Stream Media that is based on fear propaganda and turn their attention to positive thinking and actions.

This cascading affect will galvanize the collective minds of humanity, much like the 100 monkey affect and it will propel humanity into an age of rediscovery, giving and unconditional love that will far surpass the 60s 'free love movement'.

The world is ready and I suspect the Ascended Masters and Company of Heaven know this and have plans to take full advantage of this.


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Vagabond Laborer 20 months ago

One of the Third Eye experiences I have had was during a fast. The spot in my forehead where the Third Eye is located began to noticeably change--I could literally feel a sensation in my forehead I had never felt before At times, I could bring back this feeling by simply thinking about the former sensation or by gently touching my forehead. After years, I have recently tried to "reactivate" my Third Eye, but I believe that I am not as successful because of lack of fasts and less mediation on my Third Eye.


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MonkeyShine75 20 months ago from Los Angeles, California

For a while, I was having out of body experiences, getting answers to prayer, having dreams that came true, seeing visions, and entities, and then it all suddenly stopped. Do you think my pineal gland is the problem? I enjoy being spiritual, and I want to get it all back

Great hub I voted up, and AWESOME


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kalinin1158 20 months ago from California Author

Somethgblue, I sincerely hope that everything you're describing will become a reality. I've been waiting for this last weekend with great anticipation, as the beginning of something new. Personally, I didn't notice any changes, but I hope we will see the world waking up more and more in these coming months and years. We are ready to move forward, and this is a very exciting time!


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kalinin1158 20 months ago from California Author

Vagabond Laborer, thank you for sharing. I didn't mention fasting in my list of things to do, but you are absolutely right: fasting can trigger the activation of your pineal gland, especially if your body (and mind) is ready for it. I've been meditating on the pineal gland for years - just thinking about it, I feel that pressure in my forehead - but not as consistently as I should have. I would try fasting, but I don't know if I have the will power for that :)


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kalinin1158 20 months ago from California Author

Thank you Mara for the vote up, I appreciate it! As for your question...Since your spiritual experiences stopped abruptly, I would look at what else happened in your life at that time? Calcification of the pineal gland is something that happens gradually, and although it could be a factor, it wouldn't happen all at once. Did you change your diet? What's your spiritual routine? Did you start any new medications or other substances?

Generally speaking, the blockage of the pineal gland manifests as a feeling of disconnect from the source, apathy, difficulty meditating etc. We all have our pineal glands calcified to varying degrees because we can't completely avoid the poisons in our environment that cause the calcification. I would suggest a gentle detox for you (liver skate oil or tamarind are wonderful for removing fluoride from your system), and when you meditate (you do meditate, right?) try focusing on your third eye area, visualizing brilliant white light from God/dess entering through the top of your head, exiting through the third eye. This can make you feel light-headed or a bit dizzy, but that's OK, keep doing it until your body adjusts to a higher vibrational energy.

That's what it comes down to - you have to keep your vibration relatively high to have spiritual experiences, and so many things in our environment have the potential to lower your vibration significantly, like pharmaceutical meds, low quality processed foods, fluoride, and the kind of people you surround yourself with.

Hope this helps, thanks for the comment and blessings :)


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Talers 14 months ago from San Diego

There was a period where I was actively trying to decalcify my Pineal gland using those little head flicking exercises; this all came about after reading that one notorious book. by Richard Strausmann. I was rather interested in.... ahem... psychonautics a long time ago, so I was eventually familiarized with a lot of the concepts you mentioned. I think there's a lot of validity to it, especially for those who seek a more authentic metaphysical explanation than what's normally offered to them. Avoiding fluoridated water seems like a win win situation regardless of the goals, anyway.

In any case, this is an interesting article; this is the first time I've seen all these concepts unified together in such a concise manner. Feel a bit motivated to try these exercises again.


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kalinin1158 14 months ago from California Author

Psychonautics huh? Excellent word :) Fluoridated water - ughm yeah, I forgot to mention that Nazis used to add fluoride to the water in the concentration camps to keep the prisoners subdued and apathetic. Sounds familiar?

I still do many of the things I mention here, but my new thing is Solfeggio frequencies. It's really trippy how powerful it is, and it seems to stimulate the pineal naturally. Thanks for stopping by! I miss my Bubblews "gang" but I don't miss Bubblews :)


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Talers 14 months ago from San Diego

@kalinin1158 Solfeggio frequencies, huh? You have some interesting hobbies; (I mean this in a good way) it's very refreshing to know that people out their are trying to push the bounds of mainstream normality. There definitely has to be some kind of correlation between this scale and mystical experiences; it's already evidenced by its presence in those Gregorian chants. Good luck on your journey to spiritual transcendence :) I've felt smatterings of it, just not through means which can be openly discussed here; but I'm slightly aware of that unnameable feeling/insight which can't be explained in human language x_x


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kalinin1158 14 months ago from California Author

Thank you Talers, and I know what you mean. The experience itself is ineffable but we can sort of catch a gleam of it and talk about the effect of it, but not the experience itself. You also give me hope, knowing that there are people like me out there who are not fooled by the 3-D carton box we're supposed to call "reality". So glad to re-connect with you! Good luck on your journey :-)


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kundawake 4 months ago from Norway

One of the most natural and best ways of activating the third eye and pineal gland is to direct the focus towards a Kundalini Awakening. If you resonate with Kundalini you should visit my hub for more information on the subject.

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