Are the 10 Commandments for new Testament Christians?

Are the 10 Commandments for the New Testament Christian?

The Old Testament.

Was given to Moses by God and was to rule over the Israelites until the promised Savior arrived. It actually said that it would be in effect until all of it was fulfilled by a man. At that point it would be completed and would no longer be in effect. Of course it was pointing toward Jesus.


The 10 commandments are an integral part of the Law of Moses or Law . They were and are, because of their relationship to the Law, governed and punished under the LAW of Moses. Meaning that if you break one of them your punishment is determined by the LAW. That means if you live by them your punishment is determined by the LAW.

So lets look at them one by one. Then look at the punishment for them.

1. Ex 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.

Penalty- DEATH by stoning by the witnesses against him

2. Ex 20:4 "You shall not make yourself a carved image

Penalty- DEATH by the sword

3. Ex 20:7 "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain,

Penalty- DEATH by stoning

4. Ex 20:8-9 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Penalty- DEATH by stoning by the entire congregation

5. Ex 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother,

Penalty- DEATH by stoning

6. Ex 20:13 "You shall commit murder.

Penalty-- DEATH by the sword

7. Ex 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery.

Penalty- DEATH by fire, being burned to death

8. Ex 20:15 "You shall not steal.

Penalty- DEATH and possibly other depending on circumstances

9.Ex 20:16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Penalty- DEATH depends on circumstances

10. Ex 20:17 "You shall not covet

Penalty- DEATH by stoning



The New Testament

In the course of time, in God's timing, the savior arrived. He then fulfilled all scripture that had told of His coming. He being the only perfect man, then fulfilled the LAW, thereby completing it. He then, as scripture had foretold, was crucified and was raised from the dead. When He gave up His spirit on the cross and died, He said “it is finished”. He had completed His work on earth and the law was finished, no longer needed because His death and Resurrection installed a New Covenant between God and man. Also when He died the cover to the box that God lived in was supernaturally torn apart and opened access to God for everyone. ( The veil on the Holy of Holies was rent from top to bottom) No longer was there a need for a priest or any man to go before God for man. The ultimate blood sacrifice has been made. No longer was there a need to have all the ordinances and sacrifices and all the things previously needed to satisfy The Law. Man now was able , once again to have a close personal relationship with God. There is NO NEED for any man, because now Jesus is the only go between.

This new covenant was totally different. It did not consist of hundreds of laws with harsh punishments , including death if you broke them. It consisted of boundless Love and Mercy. Instead of 600+ laws there were two commands. And an open door of freedom from oppression,

It is called the Perfect Law of Liberty.

As Christians we do not live under the law or the 10 commandments or any other part of the old testament.

We have this new and totally different covenant with God ( through Jesus).

We have only two, but all encompassing commands from Jesus.

Matt 22: 37 Jesus said to him, "'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."

Mark 12:29 Jesus answered him, "The first of all the commandments is: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."

There are only two laws that the God gave us to live by in the new testament. He says that all the commandments are included in these two, but instead of being part of the law with harsh punishment they are now a part of the perfect law of liberty and mercy brought by Jesus to set us free from the law. That is a big difference that any Christian should be able to understand and be thankful for. Now we can be forgiven if we break one, under the law (in the OT)there was NO forgiveness, there was death or another harsh punishment. And that makes it different as night and day.

And since the new testament tells us if we keep one of the laws of the old testament that we are saying Jesus died in vain and are then obligated to keep THEM ALL and to be punished under the law not grace.

Gal 3: 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them." 11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for "the just shall live by faith." 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but "the man who does them shall live by them." 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.


Which will you prefer, take Jesus word and be under the Perfect Law of Liberty and grace or the old testament with no chance to be forgiven?


Now I know some will say but He was quoting the law there, yes He was, He was speaking to jews and used what they were bound by to set them free by explaining the change He had made to it for them there and then.

Do you see the difference now. Can you why we cannot keep any part of the law now. The law consisted of do's and don'ts with harsh consequences if you did any of the don'ts and didn't do any of the do's . But the new covenant is all about Love and Forgiveness and REDEMPTION. Now and we are warned about this – We are not to take this as a license to do things we are not supposed to do. You see by stating that Christ is our example and if we Call ourselves Christians that we obligate ourselves to follow His example, we are actually obligated to live a higher, more circumspect life the the old commandments required. And now if we mess it up we get another chance if we truly repent and change.

Please keep in mind Jesus was not the wuss, the Feller that loved everything and everyone regardless of what they did. He did some pretty radical things to those that did things they should know not to do. He called the high priest some pretty bad names that described him perfectly, He physically THREW the money changers and their tables out of the temple.

There are too many today that call themselves Christian that take the lovey dovey thing too far because they do not understand scripture and what real love is. REAL Love is saying or doing what is needed not what is desired.

Following are a few scriptures that show love sometimes is hurtful but necessary

Prov 9:8 Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser;


Prov 12:26 The righteous should choose his friends carefully,

For the way of the wicked leads them astray.


Prov 13:24 He who spares his rod hates his son,

But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.


Prov 14:12 There is a way that seems right to a man,

But its end is the way of death.


Prov 15:10 Harsh discipline is for him who forsakes the way,

And he who hates correction will die.


Prov 17:10 Rebuke is more effective for a wise man

Than a hundred blows on a fool.


Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better

Than love carefully concealed.

6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend,

But the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.


Prov 28:23 He who rebukes a man will find more favor afterward

Than he who flatters with the tongue.


2 Tim 4:1 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: 2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans Author

deborah, you can not take the scriptures from before the institution of the new covenant and use them under the new covenant. To do so is

saying that Jesus died in vain, that there was no fruit of His death and resurrection. Any scripture from before His resurrection is still under the Law, after His resurrection we are under grace. They must be separated for proper context.

As far as fulfilling the Law, the scriptures you use are correct, the law was in effect and could not be changed UNTIL ALL of it was Fulfilled. Jesus fulfilled ALL of it thereby changing it/completing it/fulfilling it.

When a contract is fulfilled, it no longer is valid because it has filled its purpose (which is what happened to the law) . It was still there but once fulfilled it no longer had any validity because it was completed.

ie: you contract with me to mow your lawn one time. I mow your lawn, you are happy with my work, you pay me. The contract is no longer in effect. you may still have a copy of it but it is of no value. it has been fulfilled.

You cannot mix the jewish beliefs and the Christian beliefs and call it Christianity. Christianity is a new covenant in fulfillment of the old, not a contiuation.


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Vladimir Uhri 3 years ago from HubPages, FB

It is an interesting conversation. The Law was given by Moses but Grace and Truth came by Jesus (John 1:17). The Law is demander, accuser and executer. The Grace is supplier. I am abstaining form criticisms about tithing. Tithing is supplier. We receive hundred fold what we give. I also know how much cost is let say TV programming. *** Once we built the church and were short. My wife said: We have on saving book $10,000 and we did not touch is for years. Then we gave this money to church. One insurance owed us $11,000, deny pay and we wrote it off. Unpaid amount was old for 7 years. We wrote it already off. We forgot about that. After we gave money for building, 2-3 wks later money came from Insurance company at amount $11,000. It was unexpected surprise. It was about 20 years ago and we are still tithing. It is not my responsibility what money are used for. My responsibility is giving not inspecting. One ministry collected for 40 years $40 million but 4o millions souls were saved. One dollar per soul, good deal! I do love even rich preachers. I am also certified minister but not talking salary, ever. I live in liberty and liberally tithing. My comment supposes to be only informative.

PS. Tithing is not the Law for me, but windows opening blessing of heaven. Love, Vladimir


Deborah Sexton 3 years ago

Yahshua taught again and again that there were certain behaviors we needed to exhibit (Works/Deeds). The deeds would cause spiritual growth and spiritual growth would cause us to do the deeds. All the while together we would enter into the gift of Salvation.

Yahshua Said

Matthew 5:17

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."

Many people say that Yahshua fulfilled the law, therefore we are free from the law.

If that is so, why does he say Not to destroy but to fulfill? If fulfill means do away with (destroy) why did he contrast the two?

In Luke it is made more clear what Yahshua fulfilled:

Luke 24:44

"And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me."

All the things occurred that the prophets prophesied about, concerning Yahshua. Because God spoke through the prophets, everything had to occur when and how he said it would.

Matthew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Yahsua came to reveal the full meaning of the Law by living it. He made it complete and revealed the complete law to us. For example He defined the law "Thou shalt not kill" in Matthew 5:21-22

21. "Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

22. But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."

He preached the knowledge of salvation through obedience to the law. He obeyed the Laws of God by writing them in his heart. He showed us that really loving the Father and others, mean we would obey the laws because we want to, not because we have to.

God's laws Have always been in effect from the beginning of time. Moses was given the laws and told to write them down. But that is not when the laws of God came in effect. Though many Pastors, Ministers and Teachers say so.

John says that sin is the transgression of the (God's) Law.

It is clear God's laws and commandment was in force a long time before Moses

Genesis 26:5 God tells Isaac to stay in Gerar and he would give him and his seed all the countries. Why? "Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws"

Any place in the Bible when God makes a covenant He calls it an everlasting covenant.

John say if we don't know the law we are cursed

John 7:49

"But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed".


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Vladimir Uhri 3 years ago from HubPages, FB

Yes, from the Old Testament we are learning and in the New we are living. In fact in fruit of New Covenant the Ten Comandments are embeded.


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Michael-Milec 3 years ago

Hello again . Yesterday something went out of control, so above is the evidence. Your captivating sentence summarize it all " Love is saying and doing what is needed not what is desired" .God's LOVE provided new way for His creation- mankind back to original relationship via" New Covenant " . Not only " Christians ( ?) " all world is loved equally. Simple requirement, to know the will and to do it. To live righteously by faith. Everyone has free will to make choice ... Well ,we do see the consequences. The sentencing, judgment or rewards are , left at the end of this social system. Presently seems that grace is being taken liberally as excuse to provoke that part of your listing under " penalty " . ( some " sins" might be discouraged greatly if some of those trespassers of the" law " would be removed. )[ just one man's opinion.]

My hope is that we would come to compete realization, before too late , that the " gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations , and then the end will come. " ( Matt.24:14) I'm afraid " we " as the complete movement " Christians and believers " - except some The Lord is using in supernatural -- we are no there yet.

Unless this refers to the post-millennial period . . .

Voting up and awesome.


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Michael-Milec 3 years ago

Hello celafoe .

Outstanding. You have one remarkable sentence ,summarizing all of God's newly extended chance ( the Covenant ) to restore


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans Author

amen brother. all we can do is to keep on presenting the truths and let those who have an ear to hear and an eye to see receive them. That is our responsibility to remain faithful to scripture and let no man deter us. Those that reject truth do so at their own peril. "He will send them a strong delusion that they will believe the lie" so many are in that place today, liberals that want an easy lovey dovey gospel, not The Gospel of Truth. but if we do our job, they that read and reject truth will still be accountable for it, and that is our job-- present truth so as to make them accountable to God not to us. so when they will not see we shake the dirt off and continue to the next. thank God for the few that receive truth and give honest feedback to our work so we can continue to improve our presentation and also be checked for accuracy. I have several around the world that I have check my work and there are a few on here. God Bless You


graceinus 3 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

celafoe- It is like you said. The Holy Spirit will guide us into the understanding of the Kingdom of God, but only if one will see and hear with the heart. This is where our human spirit dwells and obtains knowledge from the Holy Spirit.

80% of Jesus ministery was about the Kingdom of God and, yet, not even 5% of mans churches will even teach on the subject of God's Kingdom. Mans churches today have made God and Jesus Christ into a business to line their pockets with money. These megachurches are a joke and it make me sick to see or even hear about them. You are right about this in so many ways. I wish all these people would read and understand Matthew 6:33.

God Bless.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans Author

yes , in fact He says without the Holy Spirit to help us we cannot understand the Word. In fact without doing that so many are led astray by believing false things they are taught. And especially today with all the hirelings in the churches of men that teach what will help them, not what is in scripture. its all about growing THEIR church not about building the Kingdom of God and to me that is sickening


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dianetrotter 3 years ago from Fontana

Cela, I think studying the Word, participating in Bible studies, and really praying for understanding will help. Carefully study to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:25

How wants us to know Him.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans Author

I use the term because there are some that want to hold on to certain parts of the old testament law and mix it with the new .I will not call them new testament Christians. This according to scripture makes them responsible to keep all the laws , and to be punished under them not under grace, because they are in effect saying Jesus died in vain.

Gal 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them." 11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for "the just shall live by faith." 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but "the man who does them shall live by them." 13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

NKJV


graceinus 3 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

celafoe- I believe you have an outstanding Hub here. And I thank you for your kind words, I'm glad if my comment was helpful. And again I have enjoyed reading a number of your Hub's. Blessings


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans Author

grace, thanks, excellent addition. I really appreciate your comments. Esp the part I did not think about adding that Jesus never was under the new covenant as a man. I thought everyone knew that and i was wrong. I will look at adding this as you are right most people do not realize that and it is almost never taught.

I thought I had made it clear I was talking about the Covenants by explaining about the law of Moses and when the new covenant began, at the resurrection of Christ.

Do you realize how many churches and ministers (pastors) teach that parts of the law are still in force? also how many teach titheing as for today. To me that is so deceitful because it is not, but even if it was none of them are qualified to receive it. And then it is always taught wrong as it was actually on the increase only. It is interesting to me that the parts they usually keep are the ones that benefit them.

My purpose in my articles is to show those that are searching for truth , the truth. I realize those that have drunk the kool aid of the churches of men will disagree, but that is not a concern of mine. I have seen so many people find these truths while studying and be talked out of them by pastors that do not understand the scriptures correctly. I have a pretty short fuse with those professing to be leaders and teaching error or accepting error "in love".

My bible says we who profess to teach are to be judged by a more severe measure and harsh correction is for those who forsake the way. I have all the patience needed for helping someone see truth, but none with those false teachers, because they have all the answers. I have a deep and compelling desire to help those with an eye to see and an ear to hear , understand how to relate to and please our God, The Lord Jesus Christ. scripture tells us that those that truly follow Him will be persecuted , and by the churches of men especially.


graceinus 3 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

celafoe- I believe we need some clarity here between how one mean Old Testament as in the first have of the bible. Or are we speaking Old Covenant as in Laws given to Moses on Mt. Sinai. Testament and covenant sometime have the same meaning based on what bible translation in being used. I am assuming (and correct me if I'm wrong) you are referring to Old Covenant (laws) which are not a requirement for christians now to follow due to the estabishment of the New Covenant upon Christ death on the cross.

Regarding the New Testament, we seem to foreget that Jesus death on the cross ended the Old Covenant/Testament. This bring up a point regarding the Old Law. Jesus Christ NEVER lived as a human being during the New Testament/Covenant. He was a Jew living under Old Testament/Covenant Law. And He fulfilled the LAW. His Death marked the end of the Old Covenant/Testament. It should be made clear to everyone, the BIRTH of Jesus Christ was NOT the beginning of the NEW TESTAMENT, it was His DEATH. Everybody keeps says "In the New Testament Jesus followed the 10 Commandment". NO. He Did not. He Never LIVED AS A HUMAN DURING THE NEW TESTAMENT/COVENANT.

To many people are confusing the wording" The New Testament" (identifying second half of the bible) to mean it starts at Jesus birth. And therefore everything Jesus said and did must be follow by christians because in the New Testament you can see that Jesus did it too. Well folks, that is wrong, again Jesus never lived as a human being in the New Testament/Covenant.


Larry Wall 3 years ago

dianetroutter--you saved me a lot of trouble with your answer. The Bible is difficult because it was compiled by man. Some of it inspired, some of it opinion, some of it historic. Taking verses and trying to match them to other verses in other books of the Bible will usually lead to confusion. The context of the verse is important as is the author and the time period. However, your answer to the Hub apparently took all those factors into consideration.


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dianetrotter 3 years ago from Fontana

When you love your neighbor as yourself then you don't covet, kill, steal, or harm them in any way. When you love God you accept His Son. At that point you are filled with the Holy Spirit and are on a journey to know God better. Not forsaking the assembly of believers is important for undergirding and holding each other accountable. The Old Testament is very important history that lays the foundation. We should know it. Are we under the law? May it never be. Romans 8.


Brenda Durham 3 years ago

I'm not sure what you mean by a "new testament" Christian.

I'm simply a Christian, period.

I believe both Testaments.

I understand the intent of them both.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans Author

I have said in another post that the old testament is where we learn about the character and nature of God. But we DO NOT LIVE ANY PART OF THE OLD TESTAMENT. We live in a totally different covenant that does not include the old.

i would suggest you read the book of Galatians.

Gal 3:2-18

This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh? 4 Have you suffered so many things in vain — if indeed it was in vain?

5 Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? — 6 just as Abraham "believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." 7 Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed." 9 So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.

The Law Brings a Curse

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them." 11 But that no one is justified by the law in the sight of God is evident, for "the just shall live by faith." 12 Yet the law is not of faith, but "the man who does them shall live by them."

13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree"), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith

15 Brethren, I speak in the manner of men: Though it is only a man's covenant, yet if it is confirmed, no one annuls or adds to it. 16 Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, "And to seeds," as of many, but as of one, "And to your Seed," who is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the law, which was four hundred and thirty years later, cannot annul the covenant that was confirmed before by God in Christ, that it should make the promise of no effect. 18 For if the inheritance is of the law, it is no longer of promise; but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

NKJV

You are free to do as you wish but if continue with the 10 commandments then you are under the curse, not the blessing

The value of the old testament is strictly historical for a new testament Christian


Brenda Durham 3 years ago

I know what you're trying to say.

Just be careful, okay? 'Cause it could be perceived as an attempt to dismiss the Old Testament. You basically said we don't live under any part of that. But indeed we do! The Old Testament is our history plus a sort of "autobiography" of God Himself!; it's the history of the universe; it tells us who and what God is, lays out his sovreignty and the plan He had for mankind, etc. and etc.

I also understand that there are many denominations that have taken the "New Testament Christianity" way too far, and/or were built on a fallacy of understanding, I am both a "New Testament" and an "Old Testament" Christian I suppose is a way to describe it. ha.

I will not leave out the Ten Commandments, period. I know the God of the Old Testament and the God of the New, because they are one and the same! And indeed I'm so grateful that He no longer requires physical death for breaking those Laws, because we'd ALL be dead in that case, with no hope for repentance and forgiveness, as you referred to quite eloquently.

I leave out neither Testament. To me, they are simply two pieces of the whole.


graceinus 3 years ago from those of the Ekklesia

celafoe- Even if one wanted with all their heart to following the 10 Commandments, without a doubt they will fail. The whole purpose that was behind the 10 Commandment is to make us realize what sin is and make us aware that we are not able, based on our own merits and effort, to be sinless. Which is why Jesus Christ later died on the cross. He took with Him the sins of the whole world. In doing so provided grace. Love God and love our neighbor, these are the two great Commandment that I try to follow. In doing so I don't worry about the 10.

Blessing

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