BURN THE KORAN-QURAN!

 On Sept. 11th, a Florida preacher and church will demonstrate to the world that America is Great, is blessed by God (aka Allah) because we are a Christian people that embrace freedom by burning the Koran or Quran (however you want to spell it). The holiest of holy books, so claimed by Muslims and inspired as the word from Allah.

In Pakistan, mass riots have broken out regarding this announcement. Waves in a sea of muslamic islamics yell, "America is Satan', "Down with America" in English. In Afghanistan, General Petraeus, commander of US forces, advises the church not to do this in fear of reprisals against American troops there and in Iraq because the Taliban is "angry" about it. Many American leading priests have denounced this event as "un-American". Hillary Clinton indicated it is "deplorable". In Iraq, the scenario repeats as it was in Pakistan, In Iran, its leaders are no doubt stoking the anti-American flame in Iraq by getting their political groups there to demonstrate for the media and public. They want the PM out and hope to vote him out of office and replaced by their own challenger, a strong supporter of Iranian politics.

Regardless of whether this book is burned or not, the sitaution in Afghanistan and Iraq will continue to deteriorate and American soldiers are in no more or less danger than before. Sure, there might be a spike in violence, so what else is new? why are US troops afraid? Why is Petraeus such a whimp? Iran will continue to affect Iraq because they now can accomplish this without violence and in the American way- vote the current PM out of office by getting other voting blocks to support their candidate. If Iran does this, the Iraq we know now, will change.

Freedom of speech is suddenly asked to be "curtailed" because it might offend. The Muslim mosque being built two blocks from ground zero certainly has "offended" a lot of Americans, yet, what does the muslims do? Shrug their shoulders and say too bad. We own the property and it will be done. Hmm, why then, should America be so concerned about burning the Koran? There seems to be little respect between East and West.

The good thing about this event is that the Florida preacher can burn the Koran and bible if he wants, it is America. It is an expression of his right to do so. I am sure many of his followers may not agree, so they will leave the church. It is America, it is their right.

The American government cannot always be afraid to offend, especially when one of their citizens chooses to burn a book called the Koran. It really is none of their business except for PR purposes. Having so many high ranking US officials condemn this act shows the world how weak we are.  The US military is afraid the book burning may cause more doom in Afghanistan. What if Petraeus told them how the US loves islam and the Koran, would the Taliban curtail their killing of US troops? Do you think Iran would decide not to become involved in Iraqi politics? Would the roadside bombs cease? Would Iran stop nuclear activities? Would the Islam stop beheadings, whippings and stoning for minor criminal offenses?

The answer is no.

 

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vietnamvet68 6 years ago from New York State

This would be a dispicable act and should be condoned.If you think this is OK, then you haven't lived long enough.If they go through with this I believe you will start to see more and more bad things happen. By doing this act we promote hatred big time. You don't want to see the military on the streets every day. believe me.


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perrya 6 years ago Author

It is his right, as an American, to do so. They hate us anyway. yes, there will probably be a spike in violence. If the US government somehow stops this man from doing it, you know, it will be all over the news. You know, there will be a ACLU lawsuit, you know, many Americans will be angry and many more will do it. America should not always be afraid of what others think, it makes us look weak in their eyes. Oddly enough, we think it makes us look strong. The cultures see things very differently.


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vietnamvet68 6 years ago from New York State

perrya - as you well know our rights are not absolute. America over the years has become a country that thinks we are better than anyone else in the world and flaunt it all the time, then we wonder why everyone in the world hates us. Why every few years do we have to pick a group of people we hate?I guess I have never understood that. When I was younger I fought in Vietnam . Those people never wanted to hurt us but we wanted to kill them, now we are good friends with them and the military's are working together. WHO NEXT I might ask.


Painskeeper 6 years ago

They burn our Flag and that is sacred to me! But an American wants to burn a Quran and we are threatened that Americans will be killed everywere. And after all this our own Government defends our enemy! That is outragiouse!!!


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Dr Ken Romeo 6 years ago

Excellent post. It echos the sentiment of the majority of rational Americans.


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perrya 6 years ago Author

Thanks. Now, the preacher has been informed by the FBI that his life is in danger as islamic threats occur. This is how islam works. Whatever they do not like, they use the threat of violence to quell opposition-look at the Taliban. They threaten to kill anyone that cooperates with the US, so many do not. with islam, it is their way or no way. I see little tolerance as they claim. The extreme elements of islam are making it very bad for any moderate, level head muslim in the English world. If the preacher backs down, the islamists, can indeed stand tall because American rights have been eroded.


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G Miah 6 years ago from Muslim Nation

Mr Perrya how would you react if your holy book, ie. the Bible was announced to be burned on an international stage publicised throughout the world? I gues you would sit there thinking it is this persons right to carry out something like this because it is a free country? Can you not understand the serious consequences this act will bring? Things will go beyond Iraq and Afghanistan.

I am guessing you are Christian, and obviously you don't like Muslims for whatever reason. We believe and know that the Quran is Holy and there is only on Allah. The Holy Quran is a miracle itself. Let Terry Jones burn the Quran and why don't you join him aswell if you have the right to do so and then see what what consequences America faces.

My view is to stop this as soon as possible before things get too serious, read my recent hub, you will unerstand what i mean.


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perrya 6 years ago Author

The will of God or Allah does not only survive in a book with printed words. Itis a book. Whoever the real authors of the Koran or Bible were were people who recorded the words. Burning any book, the Koran, only brings more evil from narrow minded muslims who use it under the disquise of "it is the will of allah", in reality, Allah would tell anyone to kill an othersm but to accept them with love and turn away.


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Mancini 6 years ago from Stoke-on-Trent, England

But the point is that by condemning the Qur'an to the flames, the people in question are merely the 'Christian' equivalent of the fanatics they claim to oppose. Burning books may be a right in a free country, but it is really only an act committed by the fearful, the ignorant and the bigot. Remember that Hitler did exactly the same thing.


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Deerwhisperer 6 years ago from Bradenton, Florida

I think this falls under the category of "tit-for-tat," and only serves to stir up more trouble as it just adds more "fuel" to an already blazing fire.


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Cari Jean 6 years ago from Bismarck, ND

Even if the preacher has the right to burn the Koran - is it neccessarily the right thing to do? As the Bible states, evertyhing is permissible but not necessarily beneficial. The Muslims do what they do because their religion is based on falseness - it is the exact opposite of Christianity which is based on truth. We as Christians, who follow Jesus Christ - the way, the truth and the life, shouldn't lower ourselves to the Muslim's level. Don't burn the books - instead show them love and continue to pray for them. I think this is a better Christian message than declaring we're going to burn a book that is holy to them.


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perrya 6 years ago Author

I am beginning to think that the pastor did this with the intent of getting the mosque in NYC near ground zero moved or cancelled. this is a tennis game now. The pastor has vollied it to the muslim and their desire to build a mosque near ground zero. will they agree to move it or not do it? if they do not change their mind, the Koran will be burned. If they do, both issues go away.


human 6 years ago

You are racist, cold-hearted and insecure creatures! Lost in material world using Christianity just to mask your real face!


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perrya 6 years ago Author

Oh boy, human, you must be a muslim radical.


Humanbeing 6 years ago

Mr. Perrya

So you think what that pastor is doing is good? BTW! Y do u hate muslims? Islam? What do u know and How much do you know about Muslims and Islam? Have you ever tried to read the authentic books or litreatures about this religion? Dont follow the media dont follow those who are anti-muslims or anti-islam etc... Have you ever tried to follow any practising muslim? I guess the answer would be a BIG...NO!


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G Miah 6 years ago from Muslim Nation

I think he is narrow minded himself so obviously he won't be able to do that. Nearly all non Muslims go by the media. The fastest growing religion on Earth is ISLAM!!! and that's people converting from Christianity, Hinduism and others. That says it all. It is all about understanding the fact that we are all human with our freedom of belief and culture. Racism was a big deal for as long as i can remember, but now it's muslims. Some people have got nothing better to do than cause problems rather than help and support to solve problems.


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pintails7886 6 years ago from Memphis TN

Perry there is no ground zero mosque, there was never even a plan for one. It is media lies that you cling to like a lost puppy cause it fits your agenda.

If you love Jesus as much as you say you do, try following his teachings. Do you think Jesus would stand next to you and burn a Qur'an with you. Are you that diluted?

Read this and educate your self for once in your life.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anushay-hossain/park...


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pintails7886 6 years ago from Memphis TN

G Miah it is also the fastest Growing in America and Christianity is dropping rapidly much faster than Islam is growing, in the US.

Maybe the truth will scare them more than the lies in the media. If Islam is so bad, how can this be?

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/03/09...


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perrya 6 years ago Author

You islamists are a funny lot. I think this debate shows that many agree with my perspective just as the pro-muslim disagrees. Like many, I think islam is not a good fit for America. Too alien, too weird.


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Freya Cesare 6 years ago from Borneo Island, Indonesia

"I think islam is not a good fit for America. Too alien, too weird."

Ah, but too bad, Perry, Muslim survived and getting stronger all the times. Muslim grow rapidly in America, mostly by converters, and you will have to swallow your thought because it means nothing. :p


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perrya 6 years ago Author

Freya- that is precisely the attitude that creates a problem-it is one of others must accept, otherwise, we (islam)will conquer. That is how it comes across. Only in a free society (unlike Iran, saudi Arabia)would a religion be free to grow.


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pintails7886 6 years ago from Memphis TN

From what i see the only people that agree with your hub are those who have a total lack of knowledge concerning Islam, and more surprisingly Jesus. Read these too hubs and you will see that your bigoted feelings are out numbered on Hubpages and if you search the rest of the web I think you will see that the vast majority of Christians would disagree with you. Again the only anti-Islamic people are people like you, who know less than nothing about Islam.

And what about Freya's post says anything about conquering you Perrya? I think this debate on this hub shows your total lack of Love for Jesus, and the bible which you claim to hold so dear. Sad really.

http://hubpages.com/hub/The-12-Top-Reasons-To-Burn...

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Qur-an-bur...


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perrya 6 years ago Author

The intolerance is in the muslim comunity in places like Saudi arabia, Iran and other Islamic states. In America, tolerance is our middle name and allows all kinds. You may not like my position but the freedom to worship would not be allowed in many other muslim countries, ironically, mostly, Islamic in orientation.


Julian haskins 6 years ago

I'll burn it. I'm an American, born under a flag of truth and honer, raised to defend and respect that flag. Those people want us to allow them to build places of worship on our soil, but will not give us the same privlige. Those people burn our flag and ask the world to condemn us for even the thought of retrbution. They say that American live's may be at risk, when have they not? they say that American soldiers may die, did I miss something? Some vietnam draftie said that our actions today might have reactions tomorrow? ~~~~~It was once considered an honer to set your weapon aside to carry the flag into battle knowing that your chance of seeing the end of the days work, poor at best.

I say, let them build their churches here, when they let us build ours there. I'll burn their book, and without fear. If I die for it, I'll so for my flag and for my lord Jesus Christ.


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perrya 6 years ago Author

Okay, understand your thoughts.......


Saad 5 years ago

I just want to say to all you patriots how has a petty flag become such a sacred thing to you? The Qu'ran was sacred and still is to Muslims. PLEASE DON'T DENOUNCE ISLAM. a few Decades it has been and Islam has become Evil. Please take a look at the Nazis. Look at the Americans who began to attack the Japanese when the Pearl Harbour assault took place. Look at the IRA. Look at the massacre of catholics by protestants and the massacre of protestants by catholics.


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OmNaser 5 years ago from kuwait

Hello perrya , if you burn the Qur'an what will you gain?

Btw ur generalizing alot. Muslims do not kill unless they are attacked. And remember the reason Iraqis and Afghanis attack the soldiars because the troops are killing the civilians because they are after some of the so called al Qaeda members. Remember that the US troops came into thier country. Those did not come to ur country but Al Qaeda did. We do not hear any bombings in the US as much as in Afghanistan and Iraq. Thousands of people and civilians are dying everyday out there but u actually dont care because ur busy counting the deaths of the troops that are dying.

Dont forget abu Gharib incidents. The iraqis were raped by the US soldiers and there are many many similar stories. Its messed up. So dont call muslims radicals or what ever.


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perrya 5 years ago Author

Muslims tend to over generalize America in mostly bad ways. Muslims do kill because many think their religion is superior to every other kind and if you are a member of that other kind, you might become a target from a sick extremist muslim. Civilians, in any war, become killed when near bombs etc. The tactic of the taliban or muslim extremists are to mix with the general public so if they are killed, so will innocent citizens and the US will be blamed for it.Americans do not kill unless attacked, even then, they are told to only shoot if they are certain it is not a civilian. The radical muslims really make the rest of the world not like Islam and other muslims. Very bad Public relations.


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OmNaser 5 years ago from kuwait

What if I ask you about any muslims living in Bahrain , Kuwait , Qatar and other Gulf countries. Do you know the people there are also muslims and peaceful?

About your comment ; The US werent after the Taliban. They were after the Al Qaeda. When they started to feel to lose the war and havent found Osama bin Laden they started to make a story that they are after the Taliban. Thanks to America now the Taliban are increased in number , The shelters of the civilians are bombed and the civilians are dying because of the cold weather. Things got worse with the help of the US.

They have not achieved any peace in any of Iraq or Afghanistan. The only sad thing happening is the deaths of those innocent children. And please do not take this an offense. I am greatful to the US that they are trying to "help".

Good luck


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perrya 5 years ago Author

Well, there is an old saying in the English world, " damn if you do, damn if you don't". It means that no matter what the US does, there will be those who will find something negative about it and spin it to their advantage. What happens in Afghanistan is what happened (tactics wise) in Vietnam. Fighting an enemy that runs and hides, kills with bombs, mixes with civilians, is your friend one day, enemy the next is difficult for a conventional army to fight. Killing Osama will not change that. I find it impossible to believe that people would want and like to live under the extreme, harsh, freedom-less regime of the Taliban. As with any war, civilians will die.


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OmNaser 5 years ago from kuwait

No one wants to live under the regime of Taliban, I agree. But there was too many damages that happened in Afghanistan than the help they did for them. Thats my point.


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perrya 5 years ago Author

War is never perfect. The best laid plans always misfire in some way. The US has done some good there, but in the long run, time is on the Taliban's side. They live there, we don't.


Saad 5 years ago

You know Perrya, I have heard that excuse thousands of times. "War is not perfect." and "Civilians will die."

THEN WHY DO IT?

To help someone else?

HAH! Lets look at Iraq! A decade of bomb blasts which took place AFTER the US attacked. Economic depression. Religious tension. Kidnapping.

Lets look at Vietnam.

OH! This is hilarious! Thousands died! Women raped, kids killed, and why!?

To take down an economic system!


Rick Mcgee 5 years ago

Just because you have the right given by the 1st to do something - it doesn't make it always advisable.


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perrya 5 years ago Author

Very true


KIDD 4 years ago

MUSLIM A SUICIDE BOMBER A TERRORIST OOOOHH MEN I HATE YOU PEOPLE YOU KILLED ALL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE HERE ON EARTH YOU ARE THE ANTI EARTH PEOPLE........


KIDD 4 years ago

WHO ARE THE TERRORIST......WHO ARE THE SUICIDE BOMBER........IS IT THE MUSLIM CHEERS MUSLIM PEOPLE


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perrya 4 years ago Author

@Kidd- No entiendo


Passerby 4 years ago

Any book, including a book of the Koran, is merely a physical object that contains information. By destroying the book -- like burning it -- the information contained within it is not necessarily destroyed if there are many other books or media containing the same information. So, what's the trouble here? Go ahead and please burn copies of the Koran, the Bible, the Torah, and all the rest of the books in the world. So, instead of violence or threat of violence, let's amicably and peaceably burn each other's holy books. In conclusion, fuck be with the Koran, fuck be with the Bible, fuck be with the Torah, etc. etc. They are the shitiest and fukiest books around, anyway! And if anyone gets offended, the fuck be with him, too!


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

Burning a book does not necessarily destroy the information or message contained in it as there may be many other copies of that book elsewhere. So, book burning is not destructive, except that the act itself becomes a message of sorts, an expression of an idea, an attitude. Does any one want to prevent others from expressing their attitude or idea? That would be wrong. So, we should allow everyone to freely express their thoughts in any way they deem appropriate. So, we should let people burn books: Let them burn the Bible, the Quran, the Torah, the Principia (Isaac Newton's major accomplishment), all science books, etc. etc. But, let's not forget one fundamental, undeniable fact: books like the Bible, the Quran, the Torah, are truly trash, and copies of such books deserve to be committed to flames. Science books, on the other hand, are to be read, understood, and appreciated.


YASMEEN 4 years ago

it is only the ALMIGHTY GOD ALLAH WILL JUDGED IN BETWEEN PEOPLE, JUST ALWAYS REMEMBER THERE IS THE END OF THIS WORLD AND IT IS THE ALMIGHTY GOD WHO CREATED US ALL WILL GIVE JUSTICE TO THOSE WHO HAVE DONE WRONG.


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

My question is to YASMEEN: How do you know there is an ALLAH? Trust me -- if you have to trust anything in your life -- there is no god, no allah, no nothing of the sort you so desperately seem to be in need of believing. How do I know there is no god. Simple: let him come forward. By the way, he needs no spokesperson like you. After all, he is god almighty. No?


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G Miah 4 years ago from Muslim Nation

Sam how do you know Allah/God does not exist?


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Good question, G.


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

Why? Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim? Can't you just accept it on faith?

BTW, I think you have asked a very pertinent and important question. But first answer my questions before I answer yours.


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G Miah 4 years ago from Muslim Nation

Sam do you believe in the soul? If so, how do you know that exists?

If your argument is about us seeing God with our eyes, then i can give a quote from Albert Einstein. (from what i remember) "You say that God doesnt exist because we cannot see him, then your mind doesn't exist. I cannot see your mind, so therefore it doesn't exist because i cannot see it and never will be able to". Here when he talks about the mind, he doesn't mean the actual brain, he means the thinking and stuff.

Also, there are many things we cannot see using our eyes, i have never seen the wind. Have you? I have never seen an Alien before, does it mean that they are not there? Iv never seen you, does that mean you dont exist?

I think there are a lot of things you need to think about my friend, there are many questions that need to be answered, and the answers are in the Quran. So if you want answers read an english version of the Quran and you may find the answers you are looking for.

G


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

How absurd of you! You are not interested in your own questions!

In your earlier email you asked:

"Sam how do you know Allah/God does not exist?"

It's obvious you were asking me to produce a proof for my erstwhile claims. And I first responded by this:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

And in your latest response you completely ignored my question. Why? Please answer the question.

Now, here's a poop you've produced by your mouth: You attributed to Albert Einstein -- a veritable atheist in any significant definition of the term -- something really stupid that he never said:

"You say that God doesnt exist because we cannot see him, then your mind doesn't exist. I cannot see your mind, so therefore it doesn't exist because i cannot see it and never will be able to"

If you can actually prove that this statement -- as placed within quotation marks by you -- is indeed stated by Albert Einstein, then I will immediately confess that I am wrong, and you are right, and I will have no argument with you.

But the fact is that you IGNORANTLY attribute things to Einstein without bothering to check if he ever said those things.

Yes, it is true I cannot see minds, not only those of others, but my own also. But I can ascertain the existence of a mind by looking at the behavior of the possessor of the mind. I cannot see the air, but can ascertain its existence by observing its behavior. I cannot see love, but can see how lovers behave with each other. I cannot see electrons, but can see their effects in many ways. ETC, ETC. One can prove the existence of things either directly or indirectly by the use of apparati.

Now, please go back and answer my questions:

Is proof of one's claims important and necessary in your opinion?

Can you prove that your attributions to Einstein are valid?


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Can you prove your attributions to Einstein are also valid?


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

Can you please be more specific? Exactly which attribution do you mean? Do you mean the following?

".... Albert Einstein -- a veritable atheist in any significant definition of the term ...."


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G Miah 4 years ago from Muslim Nation

Sam, what matters to me will not matter to you, so i have my religion and you have yours. I do not have to try to make you understand about the REAL Islam if you do not want to know and want to be blind like the rest of the world about Islam via the media and ignorant people.

My only point is that anyone who is interested in trying to understand the religion does so by reading the Quran in English, then everything will be in context.

Everyone will believe what the media says about Islam, Christianity, Jews etc which is because people have been blinded by the media itslef. Right now the whole world is against muslims. This is the way it is supposed to happen, and as always there are people in peace and people in turmoil.

May Allah guide us all to the straight path, and forgive the sins of the whole of the Muslim Nation. Ameen.


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

To G Miah,

Please answer a two-week old question you seem afraid of answering:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

Why don't you answer? Is objective truth too much to bear? Is it more convenient and soothing to stay mentally cuddled within the comfort zone of your pathetic delusional religion (regardless of it being Islam, Christianity, Judaism, or whatever...)? The real world is too much for you?

Also, why don't you admit that the your earlier attribution to Albert Einstein is invalid, that he never said what you wrote in your previous email?


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G Miah 4 years ago from Muslim Nation

I believe in Allah who is the CREATOR of all things that we know of and of things we do not know about.

You're an Atheist, you don't believe in God the creator, who cares? Why does it bother you so much that i have a religion and i believe in Allah who is the creators of all the worlds, and Allah is who we all will return to after we die. I think you actually want to believe that is why you sound frustrated and lost. You will realise all of this after you die, and this is not a threat. Pharaoh was the same until he believed in his alst breaths, when it was too late, and to this day Allah has preserved his body perfectly as he has stated it in the Glorious Quran.

We are all born into this world and we will all die when our time comes. This world is very important so that we can pass the test after we die. I think you are the one who is delusional and blind to the truth which is all around you. Anyway, wait until you die and in your grave, you will remember this conversation with me here, and you will know whether i am right or wrong.

As for Einstein's quote, i got it from the internet, so i copied it. There you go. I don't know much about Einstein, but i certainly know that we have not evolved from monkeys and apes. If we did then why aren't monkeys and apes evolving into humans now? In the Quran it says that ants are the closest insects to human beings. This is because they live and work like human beings. Check for yourself, but DON'T BE IGNORANT, CHECK AUTHENTIC QURAN TRANSLATIONS.

G


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

To G Miah,

Again, like a weasel, you evade answering a simple question.

Please answer a two-week old question you seem afraid of answering:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

You are IGNORANT in so many ways I lose the count. Here's why you are so ignorant: You criticized people for believing the media like this:

"Everyone will believe what the media says about Islam, Christianity, Jews etc which is because people have been blinded by the media itslef."

And yet you go ahead and believe in what the media -- in particular, the internet -- says. With regards to attributions you made to Einstein, you wrote:

"As for Einstein's quote, i got it from the internet, so i copied it. There you go."

So, you tell me what you copied from the internet must be the truth? You are so simple-minded that I wonder if I am communicating with a cretin. So, let me see ... hmm ... If someone copies my statements and claims them as true just because he/she found it in the internet, then therefore it must be true? Really? You are totally bereft of intellectual responsibility. Your statements are the frothing of a religious bigot.

Have you wondered that your attributions to Einstein were written by someone who did not know much about Einstein? In other words, your claims about Einstein are just false !! Have you wondered about this possibility? Do you see how weak and irresponsible you are?

You have asked the question:

"Why does it bother you so much that i have a religion and i believe in Allah who is the creators of all the worlds, and Allah is who we all will return to after we die."

I am entitled to answer the question. Here is my answer:

Because you are an idiot!! I don't believe that idiots -- especially of the religious nuts variety -- must have as much influence as the rest of us, the sane ones. Because it is wrong, unethical, to allow intellectually irresponsible nut cases like yourself to splatter their vomit all over the place. They need to be answered and made aware how harmful and irresponsible they are. They need to be put in their place.

Now, why do I think you are such a weakling, intellectually irresponsible specimen of a rotten human being? Here's why:

I have asked you many times to answer a simple question, but you have gone forth to ignore it and instead spewed the ravings of a religious mad dog. Please answer the question:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

To perrya,

Is there a thought police amongst us?

Who excises my posts? Why do they get censored?


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perrya 4 years ago Author

Sam, why the long diatribes focusing on Einstein?


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

I am surprised at the irrelevance of your response. First off, your response has nothing to do with my questions about "thought police". Secondly, my "diatribes" are not about Einstein, but about the idiocy and intellectual irresponsibility, and plain good ole-fashioned lies spewed out by the cretin G Miah. This guy -- G Miah -- usurps the authority of Einstein (by lying about Einstein) to push forward a putrid creed (Islam or religion, in general). G Miah is dishonest and irresponsible.

Thirdly, were you not the one who asked whether my "attributions to Einstein are also valid"? And I wonder why you have not answered a follow-up question to your post; namely:

Exactly which attribution do you mean?

It is clear you already have a negative view of my posts. So be it. I have nothing to argue with you at this time. My contention is with this other guy -- G Miah.

Have you not noticed that objective truth does not matter to G Miah? I have asked him a simple question; namely, "Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?", but he has consistently evaded answering it. How come? He is an ass!

Maybe you are the thought police and you will censor this post. Go for it. But the fact remains that as you look at my posts, you will find that I have maintained an intellectually responsible stance, although filled with invectives (for good reason!). But G Miah has demonstrated his total disregard for honestly and intellectual responsibility. He is a bigoted cretin. No wonder the world is so fucked-up!


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perrya 4 years ago Author

it is just his opinion, right or wrong.


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

Exactamente!!!! My point! With the clarifying addition that most everybody has some shitty opinions, and damned be intellectual honesty and responsibility! They will spew out their sick thoughts and never be bothered about whether those mind-ensnaring opinions are true or false. And that's exactly why most people are in a state of existential fear about answering a fundamental question regarding the way they form and uphold their opinions, as elucidated by my two-week old question:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

G Miah, and scoundrels like he, comprise the rotting heap of human immorality, mendacity, and dishonest intellectual filth. Islam, Judaism, and Christianity (not to mention a vast plethora of other sickening religions) are millennial cancer on human civilization, robbing us of what's decent and noble in us. No wonder we have so much blood shed in human history. Dupes like G Miah will take up arms to kill all enemies of their mind-controlling religion, while chanting "Allahu Akbar", "Allahu Akbar", "Allahu Akbar", "Allahu Akbar", ad nauseum.

O.k., maybe the time has come for setting up a very special forum in which the posters will strictly adhere to a set of rules designed to elicit intellectual honesty in one's pronouncements. First, what are the qualifications of an intellectually honest post or opinion or claim? This is an important question, but not sufficient for creating the suggested forum. There are many other issues that need to be addressed. But first let's begin with the question asked.


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G Miah 4 years ago from Muslim Nation

You IGNORANT FOOL, i have answered your question, so there is proof that you are blind.

You have answered your own question about believing things from the internet regarding Einstein.

How do you KNOW whether what i wrote about Einstein is true or false? Can you prove it?

Enough questions and answers. A narrow minded person like yourself is a bad example as a human being because i spoke the truth which has hurt you really bad, that is why you are calling me names and insulting me! You call yourself a good and intellectual human being do you? Well i can proof up there of exactly what you are.

Like i have already said, you will remember what i have said to you when the time comes. ALLAHU AKBAR!


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

To G Miah,

You wrote:

"You IGNORANT FOOL, i have answered your question, so there is proof that you are blind."

It's amazing .... what a brazen liar you are! You lie shamelessly like a filthy barking dog for all to see!

Where and when did you do so? Can you copy and paste your answer to my two-week old question with a "YES" or "NO"?

Here's the question:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

Answer it now.


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G Miah 4 years ago from Muslim Nation

Allah said that He has locked you heart and blinded your eyes so that you may not see and you will not believe. No one can make you believe except Allah.

See, you have resorted to calling names, your defence mehcanisms are working as your mind knows you are WRONG.

Keep fooling yourself, but i still pray that insha Allah you are guided to the straight path from being a kafir, an unbeliever.

May Allah have mercy on you, may He make you realise that this world is a test and will not be here forever. We will all die at some point, and we will have to answer for our sins.

Allahu Akbar!


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

To G Miah,

You are a liar who barks like a filthy (HARAM) dog. You have never answered a simple question I asked three weeks ago. Here's the question:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

You wrote in a previous post that you have answered my question already. I replied by the following:

"Where and when did you do so? Can you copy and paste your answer to my two-week old question with a "YES" or "NO"?"

And again, like a scoundrel you evaded answering the question, which is now three weeks old. The answer is a simple "YES" or "NO". Why are you so afraid of answering this question? Why do you keep your soiled tail between your hind legs?

I have resorted to name calling because you are a filthy Muslim liar, because you are inspired by your barbaric fashistic religion to hurl at me threats of punishment, because you are an imbecile immoral retard, because your mind is that of the moronic dark ages, because you don't have the balls to answer a simple question. Here's the three-week old question:

"Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?

An answer of "YES" or "NO" would suffice.


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

To G Miah,

In response to your question:

"Sam how do you know Allah/God does not exist?",

I responded THREE WEEKS ago by the question:

" Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

Please answer the question. A "Yes" or "No" would be sufficient.


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

A simple answer of "Yes" or "No" -- that's all you have to do, G Miah.

But you are weak, and so is your barbaric backwards religion! You are terrified of answering a simple question I asked three weeks ago. Your religion discourages you from being intellectually honest. Your refusal to answer the question is proof positive that you were never interested in finding objective truth and establishing verifiable/falsifiable knowledge. You are committed to staying ignorant within the comfort zone of your pathetic mind-numbing dignity-whoring pre-civilization religion

I dare you to answer the question with a "Yes" or "No":

" Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"


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Matthew Kirk 4 years ago from Liverpool

It's a bit heated in here! Going to take me a week to read everything!


Sam Levonskiew 4 years ago

To G Miah,

In response to your question:

"Sam how do you know Allah/God does not exist?",

I responded SIX WEEKS ago by the question:

" Is proof of one's claim important to you, even necessary for forming a knowledge of the claim?"

Please answer the question. A "Yes" or "No" would be sufficient.


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