Bible to Mormonism Comparison 2

Not SAVED by deeds!
Not SAVED by deeds!

Progressive Salvation

Mormons believe they are being "persecuted" for righteousness' sake. Do works make anyone righteous? They obviously believe that salvation is earned as they graduate toward their heavenly existence.

The Antichrist does not honor the gods (Elohiym) of his fathers, but the god of fortresses (struggles). He claims to be God, not Satan! Likewise, Mormons believe they follow the true God! Anti-Christ means FALSE CHRIST. Believe it or not, they follow a false Christ! Let me tell you why:

Jesus, the living God says in Matthew 5:20 "For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven."

His Apostle Paul said in Galatians 2:21, "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly." Do you see the words "NULLIFY THE GRACE OF GOD" here? The Law of works unto salvation NULLIFIES THE GRACE OF GOD.

We are NOT made righteous by the LAW or works. Yes, faith produces the fruit of the Spirit, which is evident in all we say and do (the will of the Father, Who is Spirit). Ephesians 2:8-9 verifies all of this, "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast."

Our righteousness is made perfect in Jesus Christ's atonement for our sin alone. 2 Corinthians 5:21 "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him." WE are made righteous in Christ alone. The PROBLEM IS, MORMONS ARE FOLLOWING A FALSE CHRIST. They think He is not God Himself, but a separate person of the Godhead. If you want scriptural proof that Jesus is Yehovah Elohiym (LORD God) in the flesh, read my hub on Judah's Daughter called Who Do You Say That I AM?.

Latter-Day Saints, a false christ cannot save you and you are following the anti-christ, the doctrine of Satan, who is the father of lies. I speak BOLDLY as I ought to speak, for the Spirit of God is bold!

Acts 6:10 "But they could neither refute the wisdom nor withstand the Spirit by which he kept speaking."

Ephesians 6:19 I believe "that utterance may be given to me in the opening of my mouth, to make known with boldness the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in proclaiming it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak."

If you are beyond repentance, it is God's doing. How do I know this? 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11 "because they [Mormons] did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved, for this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness." UNRIGHTEOUSNESS is putting your faith in good works. They are as filthy rags to the true God! Isaiah 64:6 confirms again, "For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, take us away." ALL OUR RIGHTEOUS DEEDS ARE AS A FILTHY GARMENT? (MENSTRUAL CLOTHS)????

You must receive and believe in the true Jesus Christ, Yeshua (Yehowshua – YHWH Saves). I have loved you enough to tell you the truth and rebuke Satan in the Name above all names, the Lord Jesus Christ our Savior. The rest is up to you. I pray you are not only set free for yourself, but that you will be as Moses and set multitudes of people free unto salvation through the real Jesus Christ!

THE ONE TRUE GOD

Considering Latter Day Saints believe God the Father was once a man of flesh that obtained godhood, and that God the Father currently has flesh and bone, He is not the same God the Father of the Bible. The Bible says clearly that God is Spirit (John 4:24). The other "name" for His Spirit is the "Holy Spirit" that now indwells every believer because we are made righteous by His death in the person of Jesus Christ and His resurrection. Did Jesus not say "I will raise it up", speaking of His body? (John 2:19) and yet Romans 8:11 states the Spirit of God raised Him from the dead? Yet more confirmation.

Considering the Bible interchanges the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ throughout, He is God, Who is Spirit that became flesh for 33 years.

John 1:1 states, "In the beginning (that would be before all things) was the Word (let's see, that would be the other name for Jesus based on verse 14), and the Word was with God and the Word WAS GOD." Are your words not with you and are you? We are made in His image! Likewise, the Spirit of God is also known as the "power of (x) God". God is not three separate entities in oneness, but is one God (Elohiym - plural as in greatness "x" with a singular article THE).

The Oneness (as in a husband and wife become one flesh) of Jesus Christ with the Father is due to the split manifestation of God because God was born of a virgin in the flesh (He, as Spirit, overshadowed Mary and begat Himself), yet His Spirit remained omnipresent. As a Man, Jesus showed us how we also must pray to God the Father (Who is Spirit). Is it not interesting that the Spirit that descended upon Jesus as a dove spoke with God's voice? "This is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased". This is because that Spirit IS God! God the Father was both with Jesus and indwelt Jesus. Likewise, God is now both with us and IN us. Therefore, we are made sons (children) of God by adoption (Romans 8:15); we do not become gods nor are we gods.

Salvation is not a progressive state. We are either saved or not, and it's by His grace through faith alone in the true Jesus Christ of the Bible, Who is God Himself in the flesh. The only IMAGE of God is Jesus Christ. There is no other image, for God is Spirit and is invisible, the Word of God says so. Jesus is THE image of the invisible God (Colossians 1:15); He was not "made in His image", but is "THE image". Yes, in the Old Testament God manifested Himself as fire or clouds, but that is not the physical image as in Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is not to be dethroned to lesser than God, to that of an angel. Lucifer is an angel. In Hebrew his name is Haylel (star of the morning). The word "star" is used in the Bible referring to angels when it came to the fall (Revelation 12:4 and 7-9). In fact, Lucifer is not mentioned at all in this "war in heaven". It only mentions the "Dragon, the Serpent of Old, the Devil and Satan". To say both Lucifer and Jesus were brothers is blasphemous. This would mean God has more than one Son. The Bible says He has only ONE SON (as in offspring). Angels are created beings and the Word never created Himself. Through Him all things were created, even the angels (John 1:3). The angels bow to worship Him! "To which of the angels has He ever said, 'Sit at My right hand'?" (Hebrews 1:13) "Right hand" is not literal, but representative of POWER, MIGHT AND GREAT AUTHORITY (Ex 16:6; Ps 118:16).

Because you don't know the real God who is Jesus Christ, who is also the Holy Spirit, you follow a false god, christ and spirit.

So, as you wear those "holy" undergarments, remember how soiled they are. Our "righteousness" (through works, even as the scribes and Pharisees) are as filthy garments. I pray you will come to realize this truth and the error of your doctrine. It is the doctrine of the fallen angels, who appeared to Joseph Smith in the woods.

Galatians 1:8 "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what WE have preached to you, he is to be accursed!" You preach a different gospel that is based on fallen angels, also known as the "doctrines of demons" found in 1 Timothy 4:1 "But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times (days) some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons". Would the 1800's qualify as "LATTER-DAY", "saints"?.

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Vladimir Uhri 6 years ago from HubPages, FB

Thank you for great Hub.


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Bless you, brother in Christ, the Living God! Love you!


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survivor49 6 years ago from Philadelphia, PA

God bless, this is just wonderful.

Warmly and with much respect.

Rosa


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Bless your heart, sister suvivor49! Also, I invite you to join me over on my other HubPage profile called "Judah's Daughter". There are several hubs ministering to the saints of our Lord Jesus Christ. Be blessed! He loves you and so do I!! :-)


starbug5052 6 years ago

"WOW; great Hub. I have many Johovah Witnesses visiting my home. I do not believe in their believes either. Bless you! Great Hub, Thanks for sharing.


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RevLady 6 years ago from Lantana, Florida

The Truth shall set us free. Great Hub Carrie. Your faith passion is evident and your boldness in proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ is commendable. As Paul declared, "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes." Romans 1:16

May God continue to bless and empower you.

Have a blessed Thanksgiving!


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thank you, sister starbug5052. Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel. They believe that when Jesus died, His body was simply annhiliated (destroyed) and He became Michael the Archangel again. They do not believe Jesus Christ is God Himself. They also believe that only 144,000 are going to HEAVEN. It is also the doctrines of demons founded in the 1800's just like Mormonism. Looks like the fallen angels were busy that century!! If you wish to meet with the Jehovah's Witnesses or simply print my hub, "Who Do You Say That I AM" and give it to them, they cannot refute the identity of Christ as God! Praise God, YOU have been chosen by our Lord and are NOT deceived! God bless you, sister!


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

RevLady, my spirit bears witness with your spirit, sister in Christ! Yes, WE are NOT ASHAMED and will PROCLAIM the gospel of Jesus Christ (the REAL JESUS CHRIST) until He comes again to take us home. It is yet more confirmation, knowing the gospel IS the WORD (Jesus) of God and yet IS also the POWER (Spirit) of God unto salvation to all who BELIEVE. Praise our LORD God (Yehovah Elohiym)!


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no body 6 years ago from Rochester, New York

Satan never changes his methods does he. He always wants some sort of works that we do to matter in our "religion". When the truth is our works are as filthy rags. Good work, sis.


thetruthhurts2009 6 years ago

Great suff here!


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Hi brother no body! AMEN! You are such a blessing to all who know you, while I'd like to say, "especially me" ~ God is blessed because you are His child!! Love you!!


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

thetruthhurts2209 ~ love that name!! The truth will also set us free, amen!! Jesus is the Way the TRUTH and the life and no one comes to the Father except through Him. Also, the Spirit of Christ (Romans 8:2) that we receive when we are born again (John 3:5-7) is the Spirit of TRUTH (John 14:17), Who is also the God of TRUTH (Ps 31:5)!! AMEN!! God bless you!!


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einron 6 years ago from Toronto, Ontario, CANADA

Good hub. You speak with conviction. God bless.


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thank you einron. I pray the Holy Spirit also bring conviction to those of the Mormon faith, or those who doubt the One God, unto His glorious salvation through the shed blood of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. God bless you!! Have a blessed Thanksgiving!


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must65gt 6 years ago

fantastic hub, thanks for sharing


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Very kind of you to stop, read and comment, must65gt :-) Thank you! You know, I was thinking the other day...some Mormons believe Jesus is God, right? God has only one begotten Son, born through the virgin Mary..that Son, of course, being God incarnate. Then, Mormonism goes on to think Jesus had children on earth! Now, that would mean then that God (in the flesh) had more than one only begotten Son...daughter...

Furthermore, they think Lucifer caused the war in heaven? That's not bibical, even contrary to traditional church teaching. The Dragon, who is called the Serpent of Old, the Devil and Satan, is the one who caused the war (Revelation 12:7). Lucifer and Jesus cannot be brothers, because Jesus cannot be both God and an angel.

They really need to wake up and get saved!


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must65gt 6 years ago

You are correct, but people find it easier to believe what others tell them than to research it for themselves. We are in a society of instant gratification..."if it feels good...do it" Morality has fast become a rarity; we as a society are turning to porn and immorality demeaning ourselves. These are all things that the bible predicted and warned against. I have studied the Bible and read that through out the bible God turned from his anger and judgment because the people turned back to him. Since God is God and his will is fair and constant, we too possibly have that same opportunity. If we continue in the way we are today, and are not able to change as the Nineveghte’s did in the book of Jonah, then we will suffer the judgment of God as fore warned in Revelations. People are easily swayed in directions; those with manipulative skills want to lead them. If I am not mistaken, was it not adulterous activity that produced instability in a family, thereby producing a domestic situation that resulted in the deception by a mother and her son against his father that gave seed to Islam? Yet the followers of Islam like many of us as Christians tend to do, only recognize the things that bring them comfort and ease, refuting the negativity that is associated with it all. God’s word gives us all the information we need to make the right decisions. The Question is, are we willing to follow God’s will or turn to the more liberal ways of this world.


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

must65gt ~ I remember Jonah and how afraid he was to preach to Nineveh (Assyrians). The Jews had been enslaved by them and harshly treated; they were cruel and intimidating!! What Jonah didn't realize is that God prepared their "soil" (their hearts) to hear the message (the seed); Jonah just had to deliver (sow) it. Indeed, even Nineveh repented!! All things are possible with God. Likewise, I pray that as we sow the seed of the message, hearts will be made ready to hear, receiving the Lord Jesus Christ of the Bible as Savior.

I have hubs on Islam, too ~ one here on this profile, which includes links to others on my Judah's Daughter profile. God is calling people out of Babylon ~ will they obey the voice of the Lord? I PRAY SO!! In the Name of Yeshua, Jesus our Lord!! God bless you, brother. Thank you so much for your wonderful contribution to this hub and to the work of our Lord.


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

lol to be honest i only knew about you because of that dreadful deceiver ( HELL NO) but i think your debates with him were pretty interesting so go ahead and add me please and we can talk.


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

LOL ~ afro's mistake (great name). I'm glad you can see that Hell NO is dreadfully deceived. I'm glad you found the debates interesting and that your Father God is keeping you on the straight and narrow! Bless you, young man :-) Is that you in the photo?


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

lol hope shes not a sexual predator, jk, but ya.

and its really sad when it comes to hell no because he's so stuck in his ways that he doesnt realize that it is possible to be wrong. for instance, he says hell is fake and shouldnt be believed in, yet to tell you truth i rather believe in hell and be wrong then not beli8eve in hell and find out that there is one!

but ya go ahead and read one of my hubs( i particulary like the one about racism)


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

afro's mistake, Hardly ~ lol, but it's good you think to be safe!! You are wise for your years. I look forward to reading your hubs! Be blessed!


afro's mistake 6 years ago

lol thanks. im currently writing a hub disproving the theory that it was angels who mated with human in Genisis 6. its gonna be a good one so when im finished i hope you get a chance to read it.


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

afro's mistake ~ may I suggest you read my hub on Judah's Daughter called "The Origin of the Nephilim" ~ I think you will find it quite enlightening. Be blessed!


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

lol ya ill try to read it


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

oh im sorry but could you tell me where to find your the origin of the nephilim?


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Hi there, afro's mistake ~ here's the link (it's on my Judah's Daughter HubPages profile): http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-Origin

Be blessed!


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

oh btw please read the comment i replied to your comment on my hubs about the angels. as friends i hope were both satisfied with what i have tp say


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thank you, afro's mistake :-) I've commented to you also. God bless you!!


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

you to luv


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

lol i know this has nothing to do with your hub above but i just wanted to say that i now believe you concerning the angels and nephilim mentioned in genesis 6. i guess the reason i was so relunctant to belive is because the very idea of angels mating with humans disgust me. like God i would think it was an abomination. i did eventually read the book of enoch i think its pretty credible and it certantly exalts the name of god, though i did manage to find something on the enternet that explained why the book isnt entirely credible,but since ive forgotten their reasons for this the argument itself must have not been to credible.


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Hi, little bro! It's great to hear from you! I'm really proud of you, searching and testing. I know you have a heart for God and His heart beats for you! God bless!!


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

yes amen. speaking of which whatever happened to our conversation on yahoo?

i dont believe you ever had a chance to respond.


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Hi little bro, you mean gmail? I don't use yahoo :-) lol. God bless you!


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

lol well watever all i know is that i was on my yahoo and you were talking bout how you had gotten accepted to some kind of community that was real cool


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Hmmm...community? lol ~ I think that wasn't me, little 'fro bro. Hugz to u!!


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afro's mistake 6 years ago from dorothys kansas

so you me to tell me you have no remembrance of ever speaking to me online outside of hubpages?


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Carrie Bradshaw 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I don't use chat, yahoo, windows, aol, nothing like that. We've spoken through gmail (email). :-)


Lone Ranger 4 years ago

Carrie, you said, "Mormons believe they are being "persecuted" for righteousness' sake."

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Of course you are spot on. It's funny that they like to throw the persecution pillow around, but since when have they ever been persecuted?

Seems like I remember the "Massacre at Mountain Meadows" where the bloodthirsty Brigham Young sent his Mormon minions out to kill 120 men, women, and children.

It is also a fact that Joseph Smith invaded Missouri with his Mormon militia on two occasions and died in jail waiting to be tried for high treason against the United States as a result.

Mormons also robbed, killed and plundered some of their neighbors in an attempt to raise money for their floundering cult and had divised other fraudulent schemes to make money.

The list of their grievances toward God and humanity is great, but I find it amusing that they cry foul every time someone tries to hold them accountable.

Persecution should not be used to describe a cult following that has committed heinous crimes toward God and humanity and then pays the price for said crimes. It's called retribution...not persecution.

Best wishes and be well - L.R.


Lone Ranger 4 years ago

Dear Carrie:

I am known to go way out on a limb every now and then, but I personally think Mormonism should be illegal and I don't say that flippantly.

Mormonism is a money-making corporate empire that sells salvation for a hefty price and Mormons are its cash cows. Each year they rake in $15,000,000,000 (billion) dollars from its minions and through investments making it a financial juggernaut.

I may be wrong, but I do not think Christ told His followers to become money-making machines or to create for themselves a financial empire.

In my experience, Mormons tend to be arrogant and proud, and why wouldn't they - they claim to be members of the only true Christian church; they get to wear magic underwear, and they are in the midst of becoming gods. They also think of those outside their circle as "Gentiles", which helps to foster the "us versus them" mentality.

The Mormon empire for 80 years operated under the "Oath of Vengeance" (1848-1928) and taught this doctrine to their children and to their children's children to the 3rd and 4th generation. Do you know of any other "church" that openly prayed for the destruction of the United States and its people and swore to do all that was necessary to bring it down?

The Mormon church is fraudulent from top to bottom. Joseph Smith, Jr. stole from the King James Bible, Shakespeare, Roman Catholicism, and from a few other sources.

In 1990 the LDS church changed its tune and thusly claimed to be the only true "Christian" church, whereas their doctrine for 150 years prior claimed Christianity was of the devil and Christian ministers were seeds of Satan. They claim to be Christian, but do not follow the Holy Bible, so this is yet another fraudulent behavior.

Furthermore, the people in the book of Mormon did not exist, the cities did not exist, the geographic setting did not exist, the animals it describes did not exist, the crops did not exist, the metals described did not exist, the bogus language of "Reformed Egyptian" did not exist, its founder was a convicted con man, false prophet, and treasonous traitor. Mormonism is, therefore, a total and complete fabrication and is a breeding ground for scoundrels.

To make matters worse, crimes have been committed as a result of this fraudulent cult. It's not just about having a screwed up doctrine and philosophy; it's about ruining peoples lives and keeping them in bondage. The greatest fraud of all is that it cannot deliver what it claims...and many people are suffering as a result.

Best wishes to you and yours - L.R.


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Carrie Bradshaw 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Hi Lone Ranger! I can tell you, you are not aLONE in the burden for exposing Mormonism. "But the Spirit explicitly says that in 'later times' [i.e. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints] some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron" (1 Tim 4:1-2).

I'd like to quote you on what you wrote on my hub "Signs of Christian Cults", for the benefit of the readers here:

Noting the following facts:

Christian Science - founded in 1879 by Mary Baker Eddy.

LDS Church (Mormons) - founded in 1830 by Joseph Smith, Jr.

Jehova Witnesses - founded in 1879 by Charles Taze Russell.

Seventh Day Adventists - founded in 1863 by Ellen Gould White and James White.

"With special concern to the above (4) religious movements, it is important to note that within the realm of history, they all showed up within 50 years of each other, ranging from 1830 to 1879 A.D."

Only the "god of this age" (Satan) BLINDS the MINDS of the UNBELIEVING - and if they can't SEE the Truth, we know WHY.

I praise God for your bold deliverance of the Truth about Mormonism and even other cults. This is my purpose here on this profile. It's an ugly battle, but "we war not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Botto line is ~ in the end, the TRUTH WINS. Amen.


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OldWitchcraft 4 years ago from The Atmosphere

I've read this and your previous hub on the Book of Mormon. Both are very good and Lone Ranger has given a lot of good information about the Mormons.

The Mormons believe a lot of strange things... very strange and some of them seem closely related to Spiritualism to me. Mormonism and Spiritualism were founded a few miles apart in about the same year. Some terms used by Mormons are similar to those used by Spiritualists, for example, god is referred to as an "Intelligence." Spirits are sometimes called "intelligences."

Also, with regard to God appearing in the flesh, this is something possible in Spiritualism. Spirits, when they have enough energy, can take on physical form. They can sit at the table and eat and drink with the living.

Compare this to Mormonism, where not only God, but Satan can appear as a human being. This is why Mormons are always shaking hands with people. In Mormonism, they say that if a man comes to you, you are to shake his hand before you have discourse with him to discover whether or not he is really a human being in the flesh or sent from Satan. Satan, having never received a human body, will appear as a man, but if you go to shake his hand you will feel only air!

Now, the above could be a cover for the fact that Mormonism is a masonic order - to this day! It is a system of priveledges for those in the inner core of the organization - they wear the special undergarments (so they can identify each other as members in good standing) and they do the secret masonic handshakes. So, that could be the real reason.

But, there is no doubt that Mormonism has a lot of witchcraft influences from folk witchcraft, from Masonry and probably from whatever else was in the air around Palmyra New York in the 1830s.

Please, keep on researching the Mormons and sharing this information with other Christian people - I'm sure they'll listen to you and people like Born Again Ed Decker and Sandra Tanner are excellent and long-time researchers. They are real heroes to all of us who are Mormon cult survivors, so I'd like to encourage you to keep looking at this and studying the nature of cults and helping other people to understand what they are and how they operate.

Thank you!

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