Can The Dead Watch Over Us?

A crystal ball - perhaps the dead look through these to see what is going on on earth?
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Do the dead watch over us?

The above questions have been thrown at me lately since I have recently lost someone very dear to me. It is never easy losing a mother especially one who was and is still so very much loved. Those who knew the bond we shared try to ease the grief by stating that she is watching over me. I have been told that her spirit lingered in the house for some time after she died that she will be my guardian angel from now on and that she will never leave me alone after this.

I know that this is one of the only ways that people know how to comfort someone who is mourning and I understand that, but, can the dead really watch over us?

What does the Bible say?

It was my mother who taught me to search the Scriptures for the truth about things and so I searched them when this question came up. Oddly, I had spoken to her about whether or not those in heaven or hell can see what is going on on earth which is slightly different from the dead being able to watch over their loved ones but they are both somewhat connected.

Looking in the Bible, I found the story of Lazarus and the rich man and a few other verses that seemed to all say the same thing.

In the story of Lazarus and the rich man, neither Lazarus (who was in Paradise) nor the rich man ( who was in hell) looked down to earth. Lazarus was too busy being comforted by Abraham and the rich man was too busy being tormented. ( see Luke 16) It appears, according to Jesus' account, that those in heaven and hell are more occupied with the eternal rather than the temporal. It also seems that in eternity there is the clear understanding, whether one is in heaven or in hell, that God is in control.


In the Book of Hebrews it says:

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment..." (9:27)


In Psalm 103 it also says:


"As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.

For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more." (103:15-16)


If man's place shall know him no more as the psalmist says, then the spirit will not and cannot linger.

But what about Samuel?


Didn't his spirit rise up from the grave when Saul asked the witch to call him? How is it that Samuel, the real Samuel, was able to come in spirit to Saul? Is this possibly why people believe that the dead visit us and watch over us?

Perhaps.

Personally, I have always believed that Samuel's appearance to Saul was an exception that was personally ordained by God. It was the one time He allowed the spirit of a dead person to come and speak to a living person and it was for a purpose. The dead, as far as I see it, need permission, or rather have to be sent by God Himself to someone who is living in order to be able visit them.

My friend, Caleb DRC, has enlightened me on the whole topic of Samuel and Saul and you can read what he says in the comments below.


What do you think?

Can the dead see us and watch over us?

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Who are the dead?

You may think that this is a silly question but it is very important. The Lord says that He is not a God of the dead but of the living. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and all those who belong to God are not dead. Jesus says that they are alive. Since those whose lives are hidden with Christ are not dead then it stands to reason that the argument should be that the living watch over the living or that the dead watch over the dead.

It is confusing but nonetheless, after studying the Scriptures, I do not see how it could be so. I remember my mother. I love her dearly. I grieve daily and it is a hard time but when I hear that she is watching over me I get no comfort.

Why?

Because she is someone I love and who loved Christ more that anything. The Lord God was her only God and she walked beside Him in this life. Why should she have to look back down to this wretched earth and continue with these worldly worries when the majestic face of her father is before her?

His face.

That is what is a comfort.

Knowing that she is resting and that she is able to have the peace that passes all understanding. That she is able today, through Jesus Christ, to see the face of God and live! This is what keeps me going day by day.

Can the dead see us and watch over us?

I say no.

There is the business of eternity that they are occupied with. Those in hell cannot help themselves far less for those on earth and those in heaven trust in the Lord to help their loved ones.

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zeke2100 4 years ago

Right. The dead are no longer with us. I wrote a very similar Hub "Why Psychics Don't Share the Dead are Really Demons."

If you seek information from dead relatives, you may be opening a door to evil and led down a path of destruction. Good hub.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello zeke2100,

thank you for reading. I too, have a problem with psychics and the interaction with the 'dead'. It is a dangerous thing.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

Thank you for writing this hub. You are wonderful, you share the word of God. Also, what you just wrote about psychics being dangerous. That is very true.

Very good hub.


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Ericdierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

You simply need to lose this as a serious question. Souls do not die. Love is a continuum, not a dead circuit.

Jesus Christ sits next to me and guides me.

In case you doubt me -- look it up, I am a dead man walking who should not exist, but I do.


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lambservant 4 years ago from Pacific Northwest

In Revelation 6:9-11 John seems to indicate that at least at times those in heaven can see what is going on down here. The passage reads: "When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of all those who had been martyred for the word of God and for being faithful in their testimony. They shouted to the Lord and said, "O sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you judge the people who belong to this world and avenge our blood for what they have done to us? Then a white robe was given to each of them. And they were told to rest a little longer until the full number of their brothers and sisters-their fellow servants of Jesus who were martyred-had joined them." So these martyred saints seem to know what is going on on earth.

In Revelation 18:20 it says "Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets, for God has avenged you on her." When Babylon (referenced as 'she') is brought down, an angel points to events happening on earth. Since the angel specifically addresses the apostles and prophets, the implication is that the saints in heaven are watching and listening to what is happening on earth.

Revelation 19:1-5 it talks about "the roar of the great multitude in heaven shouting hallelujah" and praising God for specific events of judgment that have just taken place on the earth.

Then in vs 11-14 of Rev. 19 the saints return with Christ from heaven so Christ can set up his millennial kingdom. Although it does not specifically say the saints know what is going on down on earth, it seems unlikely that they would be completely ignorant about what is going on.

In Hebrews 12:1 it talks about the great cloud of witnesses who are saints who have gone on to heaven before us. It seems to be saying that these cloud of witnesses are cheering us on as we run our spiritual race here on earth.

Luke 15:7 it says "There will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over the ninety nine who do not need to." Than in verse 10 it says "Just so, I tell you, there is joy before the angels of God over one sinner who repents." It says 'before' the angels. This could be indicating that the saints in heaven are rejoicing in the presence of the angels. It is fairly certain that angels know what is going on down here, and in certain instances the saints as well.

What I don't see for sure is that the saints in heaven are watching their loved ones every minute. In the above passages they seem to be seeing major events on earth, not in the lives of their families. It is sure an interesting topic. I realize the above scriptures are not 100% convincing, but I find them to be indicating that saints in heaven at times know what is going down here in a general way.


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teacherjoe52 4 years ago

Good morning NorthWind.

I believe we go to sleep jusy like we were going to bed, when we die. That is why the rapure (although the word rapute is not used in the Bible it does mention it in other words, i.e the dead will rise first then us) states the dead will rise first.

God bless you.

God bless you.


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shelbytaylor 4 years ago

"It appears, according to Jesus' account, that those in heaven and hell are more occupied with the eternal rather than the temporal."

You just blew my mind with that one. Great hub!


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello everyone, please forgive me for not attending to each comment one by one at this time. It has been two weeks since my mother passed and though I found the strength to write this hub in a matter of minutes, I find now that it has waned. Please forgive me. I treasure each comment as you know.

ls, I agree that those in heaven do look to see the great victory of the Lamb and that they do ask the Lord how much longer. I cannot disagree for it is in the Bible. What I was talking about is on a specific level, that is, those in heaven looking down on each individual loved one and acting as a guide for the rest of their lives. I can't see a piece of Scripture that supports this.

Again, I apologize to everyone for not addressing everything.


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BlossomSB 4 years ago from Victoria, Australia

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your Mother, but I do agree with shelbytaylor that those in heaven are more occupied with the eternal and with singing God's praise. However, I'm sure you'll receive a great welcome when you join her and that's something very special to look forward to.


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Caleb DRC 4 years ago

Hi North Wind,

Dake said in his Bible that it was a familiar spirit who possessed the woman and revealed to her that it was Saul who was talking to her( 1 Samuel 28:12). Dake has a lot written about this: "9 proofs that this was not Samuel." He explains each proof very well. I'll give a very short synopsis: 1. God would not answer him through legitimate means let alone violating His commandments. 2. It is clearly stated that Saul sought information from demons. 3. Demons can impersonate the dead; he gives the Scripture. 4. God clearly commanded to not communicate with the dead; therefore, He would not bless the success of it. 5. Well, you get the idea. Dake does a thorough job of explaining this case. He builds a case that Saul went to hell for his rebellion against God, and Samuel went to heaven, but the demon said that Saul and his sons would be with him tomorrow. He gives very good argumentation with the Scripture to back it up.

Be well, my friend.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi Blossom, thank you for your kind words. shelbytaylor was actually quoting from the hub itself :)

Again, thank you for the comforting words. I know that we will meet again on the other side of eternity for I have that blessed assurance.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Caleb, I don't have a Dake's but I ill try to get to it. Samuel's visit to Saul did not make full sense to me because of all you mentioned but I always wondered why the witch was so afraid when she saw Samuel appear.

Your explanation has helped me greatly.


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teaches12345 4 years ago

North Wind, a very good argument and well defined. With all the zombies and interest in talking to the dead, this will help others to know the truth. Blessings.


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North Wind 4 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Thank you for your comment, teaches.


Lybrah 3 years ago

I've often wondered whether the dead can watch over us from heaven. I hope so.


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi Lybrah,

Thanks for you comment. If I were to say what I personally hope it is that those I love are so consumed with the beauty of God that they cannot take their eyes away from Him to look away from Him and at me.


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

expecting the dead to watch over you instead of Jesus is called Necromancy and is witchcraft and scriptural forbidden


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Thank you celafoe. I have heard of necromancy before and though I knew that it has to do with communication with the dead I had not considered the belief that the dead watching over us as it. Perhaps this is because it is said so often and is accepted by so many from all different religions. Now that you mention it, yes, that is the word for it. It fits the definition. Thank you for your comment.


Rayne123 3 years ago

Well another very interesting and useful hub.

You bring up some very good points.

First I would like to say sorry to hear about your mother. It is a great loss to lose any one close to you.

Second of all, from what I gather, I do believe since God is in control of everything even the wicked, he is the one who sends our loved ones if he feels this is what we need at the moment.

I do not believe that our loved ones become our guardian angels. Angels we contact/connect with, are actually angels of God, and never were human, to my knowledge anyway.

The vote was hard to decide because I believe they come for a short visit then they are gone, but do not stay among us.

This I do know from the experience of my dad's passing. When he passed the next day, his spirit came through a window that was locked and then my fireplace went on and it was May.

I then proceeded to talk to him and I asked if it was him to allow my prayer beads I was holding at the time to leave my hands. The next morning the prayer beads were neatly in a circle on my coffee table.

I feel asleep on my couch however the couch was too far from the table to even have reached over and placed them there in my sleep not to mention placing them neatly in a circle. It also happened the next night.

I believe he wanted me to know he was ok and that was that. I also (before this incident) happen to be looking out my living room window and saw who looked exactly like my dad, the exact way he smoked and walked, walk past my window, I watched for him to go by the tree that was in my front yard and he never did.

Another time, the second time, I was on the city bus and happen to look in the mirror and well if I didn't see my dad on the seat just behind me. I turned around to look and there was only one person on that seat, it was a young girl. I remember this like it was yesterday. Then never again did I see or feel him.

I have dreamt of my dad talking to me telling me things. The last dream I had of him, we were all eating spaghetti with him, he felt sick and excused himself as he went to the washroom.

That told me that it was time for him to cross over, I believe. I had one more dream of him a few months ago. I was at the dock of some lake and he pulled up with my uncles in a boat, looking and dressing just like my dad does, we asked him if we could go for a ride and he said to me ,nope it is not your time, your uncle will take you another time.

He left.

Nothing ever again. I believe God allowed that, he knew what I wanted to know and send those dreams, as God will when asked.

If one remembers dreams (a hub I wrote) very vividly as I do, that means God wants to leave us a message so pay attention.

So I have to agree with this hub for the most part. I do not believe in physics or these false advertising where they claim they can read your cards/hands. I know things myself and I leave well enough alone.

I also do believe if you call upon the dead you are asking for more danger. The oiji board is a good example. If you use it, you call evil out.

If our evil spirits know we believe in anything that does not reflect with God, they will descent upon us, knowing we can be manipulated.

God is the only that can actually predict the future without mistakes.

yes some come close, however this is through the eyes of God. I have dreams of the future all the time and they have come true. I am having them now, however once again God is giving them to me, as there are things he wants me to know right now.

One person mentioned witchcraft, yes this is evil, its black magic and is not really magic, if you send or do something to anyone, it actually descends upon yourself. The spells are not to be tampered with, these will definitely result in trouble. what you send out comes back twice as hard as you send it.

Anyone's life tampered with through witchcraft/evil magic will only cause yourself pain and for good reason. God will tamper with their life.

I love the show "heroes" a bunch of people with special gifts they never knew they had that were led to save the world.

Well on the show they make it clear that it is known they are needed to save the world. They do not make their gift a public menace nor do they boast about it. They actually wish to lead normal lives. However they come to realize they have these gift to help save the world.

One guy does say to his buddy, we cannot use our gifts for personal gain, this is dangerous. Your gift will be taken away and the gain will be on you. I asked God what he thought of this show and he was ok with it.

Anyway so many good points/comments and very interesting hub.

Thank you

Laurie


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

sorry laurie what you describe isd. demonic and is not from God. If you are using the Saul story above as verification then you need to look again.Saul asked a ""witch"" a demonic intermediary to bring up Samuel, the vision was not from God but was a demonic vision through a witch which is clearly against scripture. There is not one scripture that would demonstrate that this was from God.


Rayne123 3 years ago

oh I understand what you mean, however I did ask and no it was my dad and it was good.

I am very much against anything that goes against Gods will.

This was quite a while back and good came from it.

However I see where you are coming from


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

no it was not of God. Saul got what he wanted from the witch but it was not of God it was demonic. God does not work through a witch, in fact, they were supposed to kill them not use them. Tell it is as Jesus taught get behind me satan and you will see it flee. Do not talk to this voice it is demonic. This is witchcraft. Show me one scripture in context that confirms this to be of God. there is not even 1 .


Rayne123 3 years ago

I didnt say I talk to my dad, it has been a long time now.

he came into my dreams, I dreamt of him. I do not sit here and have conversations with my dad at all.

He is passed over and I have previously stated I do not believe our loved ones are guardian angels. Some do, however Angels are not human and are the ones God sends to guide and guard over us. Passed loved ones may see us but not guard us.

Its not in the way you think, its done now and I know it was my dad that was here, I felt his presence, he came to let me know he was ok and understood about my wicked stepmother. Or I thought anyway.

Lot of people dream of passed over loved ones. I even had dreams of my dogs that have passed. (if you read my dream hub, it explains how predicting my dreams are) Anyway I am all about God and have asked him to lead me to the answer of the dream with my dad.

I never had a convo with him when I seen him walk by, I did talk to him in my dream and where he led me to something was the right place.

We are talking like 6 years ago, except for the time I had my last dream about him a few months ago. In the boat with him and my uncles.

I do know what you are saying, however you are blowing the dream with my dad way out of proportion. I know all about witchcraft and satan trust me, God leads me to where and what to stay away from.

I do not condone that stuff at all. However this was my dad in my dreams and was my dad the day after he passed. If was the evil side of it, things would not be where they are now.

Its not like I speak to the dead at all, I never have been able to and not sure I believe in it, nor would I want to, however if one does speak to the dead they have free will, however it is a sin from God and he will repay.

But as far as I know God has not said to me in any way this was a demon.

However I do appreciate your comments, its always nice to hear and read stories, thank you


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

my response was based on this that you said. the dream came later in the article

"This I do know from the experience of my dad's passing. When he passed the next day, his spirit came through a window that was locked and then my fireplace went on and it was May.

I then proceeded to talk to him and I asked if it was him to allow my prayer beads I was holding at the time to leave my hands. The next morning the prayer beads were neatly in a circle on my coffee table.

I feel asleep on my couch however the couch was too far from the table to even have reached over and placed them there in my sleep not to mention placing them neatly in a circle. It also happened the next nigh


RICK 3 years ago

I LOST MY PARTNER 1.7.13 AFTER 35 YRS .I HAVE TO KNOW I DIDN'T EVEN SAY GOODBYE HE WAS BRAIN DEAD WHEN I WENT TO HOSPITAL.I PUT UP A BRAVE FRONT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE .BUT IT'S KILLING ME NOT TO KNOW


Rayne123 3 years ago

Sorry to hear your story Rick, if you need to know ask God to show you.

He will lead you right to the answer


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celafoe 3 years ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

repent and be born again before its too late for you.

1 Cor 6:9-11

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

NKJV


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello Laurie,

Thanks so much for your sympathies. I appreciate those words very much.

I do not believe that those who have passed become angels either. To put it quite simply - it is not Scriptural. I am aware that there are many ( much more than I thought ) who believe this even if they believe nothing else. I think, or rather suspect, that this belief gives comfort after death.

I am sorry about the loss you had as well. Your story about his visit is not the first I have heard like that. Do I believe that that can happen? Yes. Do I believe that it is from God? I lean more towards no. It has never happened to me before and I would not want it to.

I think that sometimes grief is very great and people see and hear what they want to hear. The dreams are natural because they accompany grief but I do think that the visit happened because spiritually, you were at your most vulnerable.

Grief does break down a certain barrier in some people that can cause evil to use that grief as a way into your heart through disguise. I do agree with celafoe and it hurts me to say it because I know it was such a comfort for you.


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello Rick,

I am sorry for your loss. You said that you put up a strong front in the hospital and not it is killing you.

How are you today?

Have you spoken to anyone of your pain? Do you have anyone to speak to?

When you cry, cry out to the Lord. He will ease your grief.

As I wrote in my hub, I do not believe that the dead can watch over us but I do believe that there is the possibility of eternal joy after death.

That eternal joy and peace can be there for you. Seek the Lord search for Him with all of your heart and soul. Call out for the one and only living God and beg Him for enlightenment and discernment. He will give you the answers you need and you will find rest.


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Peggy W 3 years ago from Houston, Texas

I am sorry to hear about the loss of your mother. My dear mother died in 2010. I look forward to seeing her again someday in the next life. In the meantime I love seeing her in my dreams. May God comfort you in your time of grief.


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Thank you very much for your kind words, Peggy W. I know (because of your hubs) how much you loved your mother and all of the things you learned from her.


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Michele Travis 3 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

North Wind, I know this is weird, but the night before my father died he had a dream about my mother. She had died 2 years before him. In his dream she was reaching out to him. The dream made him happy. Was this God's way of telling him he was going to die? What did the dream mean. You know I believe the bible, and what Jesus taught us. But, for some reason I read this hub again and wanted to ask you this question. They were both born again Christians. They left their old church behind, which is a long story. They loved God. They loved each other.

Thanks for letting me ask a question twice:)


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North Wind 3 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hey Michele,

It is possible that the dream was a foreshadow of what was to come. Dreams do have a way of revealing things to us as proven in the Bible. Remember Joseph as well as Nebuchadnezzar had dreams. Pharaoh had dreams and so did Pilot's wife. All of those dreams had meaning. I can't tell you for certain what the dream meant. It could be that he had an inkling of what was to come or the dream could have been sent as a comfort to him. The Bible says that once we repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ we are saved and have a place in His kingdom. I have left my old church behind as well because I discovered it was not a church at all. The church is the body of Christ. Those who follow Him and are devoted to Him and His ways are the church. If your parents served the Most High God it is not farfetched to believe that they are together in the presence of The King of Kings and what a wonderful place to be!


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Michele Travis 3 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

Thank you North Wind. It was the first time after my mother died that my father was happy. It was really amazing.


Simone Barton 2 years ago

Everything must come back to the word of God. But I believe do not put Him in a box. I would suggest you ask God himself to reveal to you your answer in Jesus name. He is the only one to answer in truth. People will speak of their revelation, that may not be God's answer. My husband recently died suddenly & he asked God to send him back to say goodbye to his family. God gave him his life back, the Doctors said he will live for three day. He lived for three months longer. He was a believer & he said God showed him heaven & hell...Believe in Him that is all I can say & trust what he has to say through his word and through prayer.


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North Wind 2 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hello Simone Barton,

I agree that God should not be put in a box. I believe that He has shown His character in the Bible and since He says that He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, that it is a solid way of knowing the things that He is likely to do and unlikely to do. Trusting in the Lord and believing His word through prayer is the right way to go.

Thank you for sharing your story about your husband. It is amazing how man proposes and God disposes.


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Jackie Lynnley 2 years ago from The Beautiful South

Having lost my mother four years ago I know just what you mean. I would love to have her here again but for her sake I would not and do not believe she does see anything of her past life. That is done and over and if there is any watching from Heaven I think that is the whole church once we are altogether up there waiting for the end; but our story on earth as Christian is over then.

Great share. Thank you.


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North Wind 2 years ago from The World (for now) Author

Hi Jackie Lynnley,

Thank you so much for visiting and reading. I am sorry to hear that you lost your mother too. I know that people say that time heals the wounds that come with missing loved ones but time cannot conquer love - Jesus Christ is testament of that! I feel comforted to know that she is resting in the everlasting arms of the Lord and that I have the promise ( and you too) of His arms as well. He is our great Hope and He is the Truth so our Hope is certain.

God blesses and keeps those who belong to Him.

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