Did Christ Abolish the Ten Commandments?

The moral principles of God
The moral principles of God

There is a popular notion within the Church system where the people will say that "Jesus Christ" abolished the "Ten Commandments" by nailing them to the the cross. The question must be explored, did Yahshua abolish them, or fulfill them?

Perusing the Popular Notion

Many assume that God’s people came to know of Yahweh’s moral laws when they were written by God on the tablets of stone upon Mount Sinai, but if we take step back further in time we may discover something to the contrary.

Thou shall not murder.
Thou shall not murder.

Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know; am I my brother’s keeper?” And the Lord said, “What have you done? THE VOICE OF YOUR BROTHER’S BLOOD IS CRYING TO ME FROM THE GROUND. And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. – Genesis 4:9-11

If we think about this verse for a second, how could God judge Cain for killing his brother if he did not know that he was disobeying one of His laws?

Also, further in Genesis we read,

And after a time his master’s wife cast her eyes on Joseph and said, “LIE WITH ME.” – Genesis 9:7

How then can I do this great wickedness and SIN AGAINST GOD?” – Genesis 9:9

Potipher's wife tries to seduce Joseph.
Potipher's wife tries to seduce Joseph.

A simple reading of Genesis 9:9 Joseph obviously knew that committing adultery was a sin against Yahweh by disobeying one of His moral laws. From this evidence, we would have to assume that these men as attested in Scripture were aware of certain laws already in place by God.

Eternal Evidence

There is compelling evidence that God’s moral laws are eternal in nature from the testament of Yahweh telling Moses to make a sanctuary among his people where His presence would dwell.

And let them MAKE ME A SANCTUARY, that I may dwell in their midst. – Exodus 25:8

The sanctuary that they built was a shadow, or a copy of the one in heaven.

They serve a COPY AND SHADOW OF THE HEAVENLY THINGS. For when Moses was about to erect the tent, he was instructed by God, saying, “See that you make everything according to the pattern that was shown you on the mountain.” – Hebrews 8:5

The earthly sanctuary was a copy of the one in heaven where Yahweh dwells. The interesting thing is that within earthly sanctuary, under the mercy seat, within the ark was the Ten Commandments. These commandments were in the most holy place. These things were a “copy and shadow of the heavenly things” that were already in heaven. This would mean that Yahweh’s moral laws as part of the Ten Commandments were already in place long before the events of Sinai.

The works of his hands are faithful and just; all his PRECEPTS are trustworthy; they are ESTABLISHED FOREVER AND EVER, to be performed with faithfulness and uprightness. – Psalm 11:7-8

FOREVER, O Lord, YOUR WORD is firmly FIXED in the heavens – Psalm 119:89

God's Moral Laws vs. the Ceremonial Laws of Moses

It is quite clear that what is taught in the church system completely disregards God’s moral laws, as they have abandoned the truth that is set forth in them. The confusion of their doctrine comes from their teaching that the Ten Commandment and the Law of Moses have all been ALL nailed to the cross. After that, they they just pick and choose what they decide from either as a mandate for the masses as a means of controlling them.

By digging a little deeper in Scripture, we may find the eternal moral principles of the Ten Commandments are still applicable today as back then.

Blotting out the HANDWRITING OF ORDINANCES that was AGAINST US, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross – Colossians 2:14

In the above verse, Paul was not talking about the Ten Commandments that were written by the hand of God, but the handwriting of the ceremonial ordinances that Moses wrote being against them.

When Moses had finished writing the words of this law in a book to the very end, Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, “Take this Book of the Law and put it BY THE SIDE OF THE ARK of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for A WITNESS AGAINST YOU. – Deuteronomy 31:24-25

"By the side of the ark."
"By the side of the ark."

Notice that these ceremonial laws as a witness against them are “by the side of the ark,” not under the mercy seat within the ark. The ceremonial laws were separated apart from Yahweh's eternal laws. Making the distinction between the two is important.

Why then the law? It was ADDED because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made – Galatians 3:19

If this preceding verse pertains to the Ten Commandments, then what were they added to? Obviously, when a distinction is made between the ceremonial laws and God's moral laws this verse makes more sense. Paul was talking about the Book of the Law that was added to the Ten Commandments until Yahshua fulfilled his purpose.

Without knowing God’s moral laws, we would not know what sin is. Yahweh’s divine eternal laws point to our iniquity. The old ceremonial laws in the Old testament were a temporary remedy for God’s people until Yahshua Messiah came as the ultimate sacrifice by offering himself for all mankind.

The principles of the Ten Commandments were not abolished by Yahshua, but fulfilled by him. They are eternally part of who God is. Yahweh judged Cain because he already knew His moral laws. Joseph also knew that adultery was wrong knowing that it was a sin.

Think about it, how could God judge anyone without there being laws in place first?

For the law brings wrath, but WHERE THERE IS NO LAW THERE IS NO TRANSGRESSION. – Romans 4:15

The moral principles of the Ten Commandment have always been in effect from the beginning of the heavens and the earth. The ceremonial laws were added as an addition because of sin against God’s moral laws. The ceremonial laws pointed to a Saviour who would one day come to be the ultimate atoning sacrifice.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to FULFILL them. – Matthew 5:17

Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we UPHOLD THE LAW. – Romans 3:31

Yahshua Messiah's purpose on the earth was to show the true meaning, or principles of the Ten Commandments revealing the character of His Father.

By abolishing the law of commandments EXPRESSED IN ORDINANCES, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace – Ephesians 2:15

The context of this verse in the the second chapter of Ephesians pertains to one of the ceremonial laws of circumcision contained in the ordinances. Yahshua came to be the last sacrifice doing away the requirements of these types of ceremonies contained in the Book of the Law.

Today, we do not have to keep the ceremonial laws to be in right standing with God. It is now done through the man Yahshua. If we love the Father and His Son, the result will be a lifestyle of keeping and honouring his divine eternal moral laws.

Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND HOLD TO THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS. – Revelation 12:17

Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THEIR FAITH IN JESUS. – Revelation 14:12

The lifestyle of the followers of Yahshua will abide in the eternal commandments of Yahweh having faith in our Messiah by following his example by exalting his Father's timeless moral laws in their lives.

Those within the church system will say, “I am under grace now, not under the Law. I don’t need to keep God’s Laws,” then they will the quote the following verse,

For sin will have no dominion over you, since YOU ARE NOT UNDER LAW BUT UNDER GRACE. – Romans 6:14

It's easy to isolate a verse on its own, but the very next verse states,

What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? BY NO MEANS! – Romans 6:15

It should be common sense that being under grace should not be a licence to sin, which means that the eternal moral principles of the Ten Commandments are still in effect; otherwise, we would not know what sin is. An indoctrinated "Christian" will take God’s grace to mean they can continue in their lifestyle of sin because Christ’s blood blinds the Father from seeing their sins. This is a false definition of “grace.”

A disciple of Yahshua knows holiness is important. Following the divine moral commandments of God is the moral standard He has given to all of humanity from the beginning of time.

And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THEM THAT ARE HARD TO UNDERSTAND, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. – 2 Peter 3:15-16

How is that people who believe that they are “free in Christ" equate it to being pardoned from no longer adhering to the moral precepts within the Ten Commandments?

What shall we say then? ARE WE TO CONTINUE IN SIN that grace may abound? – Romans 6:1

For I DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD, in my inner being – Romans 7:23

Paul states that he delights in the moral laws of God. Those who believe that Yahweh abolished His own eternal moral laws through "Jesus Christ" are mistaken. The result of the church system that promotes this doctrine leaves people in bondage continuing to live in a lifestyle of sin void of having any victory through Yahshua.

True believers are instruments of righteousness yielding themselves to Yahweh each day by walking as Yahshua did by being obedient to His moral commandments.

SO THE LAW IS HOLY, and THE COMMANDMENT IS HOLY and righteous and good. – Romans 7:12

It is true that we are under grace, but that does not give us licence to stop giving credence to the moral laws of God. The abominable sinful condition of the world is the result of those who do not keeping His commands. Our sinful state should show our dire need for salvation and point to Yahshua Messiah. The reason we should want to keep God’s commandments is because the love we have for Him.

Yahshua nailed to the carnal commandments contained within the ordinances (Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2:14, Hebrews 7:16, Hebrews 9:10). The carnality of man's ways have led to abandoning God’s moral laws. It is no different in the corrupt religious church system today where the traditions of man supersede the laws of God.

Yahshua is our example of keeping the laws of his Father because they were written on his heart. He walked in the spirit of his Father by doing His will. Those of the Body of Christ (ekklesia) today have a spiritual covenant too where Yahweh's Laws (principles) are written on their hearts being a testimony of the same spirit Yahshua had with his Father.

The fact is, modern cookie-cutter "Christians" are bound to their man-made traditions. They create for themselves many other doctrines that always try to skirt around following God’s moral commandments.

Why do they find it so difficult to follow them?

It is because they find them grievous in their carnally minded state being lovers of themselves more than God. They fail to realize in their delusion that they are pouring out contempt on the moral laws of Yahweh believing that they are exalting our Saviour by doing so.

The eternal moral laws are the characteristics of the Father pointing to His Son who is the narrow gate that points to the eternal moral laws of his Father.

“IF YOU LOVE ME, you will KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. – John 14:15

But the one who looks into THE PERFECT LAW, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer who forgets but A DOER WHO ACTS, he will be blessed in his doing. – James 1:25

For this is the LOVE OF GOD, that we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. – 1 John 5:3

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elijahgod 20 months ago from Nigeria

No! he did not oh......


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Michael-Milec 20 months ago

There isn't recorded a single episode Jesus of Nazareth using term 'the Ten Commandments.' If anything, he has declared perhaps "more" important to know "I have bee born and have come into the world for this reason to testify to the TRUTH. Everyone who belongs to the TRUTH listens to me." A different transl. "Everyone who is of the truth hears my voice." ( not even close to "true believer" or any other man-made phrases.


graceinus 20 months ago from those of the Ekklesia

PandN- I want to make sure that I have this correct, but more important I need to know it's correct context in which it was written. Therfore I ask for your opinion of what the following verse means in Exodus 34:28 (NKJV) which states:

28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water: And He wrote on the tablets the words of the COVENANT, the Ten Commandments.

When one reads this verse it implies the Ten Commandments were/are a "covenant". If so, then it brings up far more issues that need explaining. This verse is at the heart of many questions I have with regards to the Ten Commandments if they are in and of themselves (also) a conditional covenant. Please give your opinion on this.

I have many question regarding this which is why "at this point" I don't agree or disagree with this article.

Blessings


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Micheal,

Jesus Christ was the testament of the Truth who fulfilled all the principles of the Law. Although we are worthy of death for breaking God's laws, Jesus was the final sacrifice atoning for our sins making amends on our behalf if we accept his sacrifice. The purpose of the moral principles of the Law are to reveal our sin, which should cause us to repent so that we can continue to be in right standing with our Father, which is done only through Jesus Christ.

The Gospel is not about the Law; otherwise, it would be works based. The Gospel is about what Jesus Christ has done and accepting his spirit within us that is one with his Father. It is only through Christ that we have the ability to follow the timeless moral principles of God just as Jesus did.


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Graceinus,

I may have published this article too soon, but I have changed some of the wording in the article to bring more clarity and maybe less confusion to what I was meaning. When I say "Ten Commandments," I am referring to the principles and moral conduct contained within them that apply to us today.

The Covenant that God made with the Israelites was fulfilled through Jesus Christ, but the principles contained within them were not abolished.

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have NOT come to abolish them but to FULFILL them. - Matthew 5:17

God’s moral law contained in the Ten Commandments reflects His holy nature, which does not change. These principles of God are timeless.

Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah - Jeremiah 31:31

The new Covenant did not start out on a completely new moral basis because that would mean changing the inherent part of who God is, which is not possible.

The terms abolish and fulfill have two different meanings. Abolish means to utterly overthrow, or destroy, but fulfill means to accomplish. The purpose of the old covenant was accomplished, or fulfilled through Jesus Christ, but not utterly destroyed because the absolute moral principles (love) contained within them have always applied to the things in heaven and on the earth.


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Rich kelley 20 months ago from The Ekklesia

Aaron,

Thank you for the write up. Lately many of the sayings from the institutional church have been showing up in my life. Nailed to the cross is yet another one, that I answer with Christ was nail to the tree. Before He shed His blood He accomplished what no man was able to. This made the sacrifice of His blood acceptable to God.

The "New Covenant" is new and better, yet to my knowledge doesn't abolish previous covenants making them void. What of the covenant made to Abraham, Noah, the animals and others. I look at it that I don't have to keep the 612 laws Moses wrote on the scroll that resides out side of the Arc, the container for the covenants of God.

To me it is like murder, I say to myself I've never murdered. Jesus teaches on murder and I find that I have indeed had HATE for my fellow man. There is always a higher better definition coming from God if we seek it.

I hope the only commandment people might have a problem with is "remembering the Sabbath day to keep it holy". Some religions have Saturday some have Sunday. Funny part is most of the time regardless of the day the institutional church selects they fail to keep it holy because of all the man made traditions and lies they tell the sheep.


graceinus 20 months ago from those of the Ekklesia

PandN- When Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law there was far more to this statement than most people realize. In order to explain what I mean by this we have to understand that the moral Law for man is an issue of the heart. To explain this we have to go back to the time of Noah before the great flood. In Genesis 6:5-7 (NKJV) it states: 5 Then the Lord saw the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the "thoughts of his heart" was only evil continually. 6 And the Lord was sorry that He made man on the earth, and He was grieved in He heart. 7 So the Lord said; I will distroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping things and the birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.

If we take a good look at these verses then one would realize that God did not distroy man with a flood due to their acts of wickedness, but do to the wickedness of the thoughts of the heart. Most would agree that the wicked thoughts of the heart lead to wicked acts.

There is a connection between the above verses and the following in Matthew 15: 18-19(NKJV) which states: 18 But those things which proceeds out of the mouth comes from the heart, and they defile a man. 19 For out of the "heart" proceeds evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, forications, thefts, false witness blasphemies.

As you can see in all the verses I have mentioned so far are man's moral issue stems from the heart of man. I believe that part of the Sermon on the Mount by Jesus which is well mentioned in Matthew chapter 5 through 7 was Jesus attempt to tell His followers that we (mankind) have a heart issue that we need to get right. The thoughts of the heart is a whole new level of morallity. Yes, Jesus did in fact fulfill the Law. But much more than that the Laws He fulfilled was a much higher standard that is far beyound the level of the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandment never delt with the issue of "

evil thoughts of the heart" but the physical acts.

In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus was relating to us a higher standard of Law that He Himself fulfilled. These explample are noted in Matthew 5:21-39. In these verses we find statements from Jesus where He says, You have heard it said, ......

But I say to you:......

In each case Jesus describes an Old Testament Law which which relates directly to moral standards. and then turns around and raises the bar or standard. In each case where He states, "But I says to you...." He dealing with a heart issue. The thoughts of the heart. Again He brings the Law to a higher standard. In all cases where He said, But I say to you, He Himself fulfilled the higher standard. not just the Ten Commandments but including the higher standard He had set. The higher standard still delt with morals but on a much higher level. These are the law which are write in our hearts in the New Testament. And it deal directly with the issue of the heart. The standard that Christ set far exceeds the Ten Commandments. This is why Jesus said in Matthew 5:19 ((NKJV) which states: 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of "these" commandments, and teaches men so,"shall be" called least in the Kingdom of heaven, but whoever does and "teaches" them, will be called great in the Kingdom of heaven.

Then "least of these" that Christ is talking about is in each case where He states, But I say to you.....

In other words, Jesus was teaching them a "KINGDOM" standard of Law. Which far exceeds the Ten Commandments.

Jesus is basically telling us that the heart is an issue that must be delt with if we are to enter the Kingdom of God. And knowing that Jesus is the only person ever to have fulfilled this "Law" is the only reason we have a chance at eternal life. Our faith in Him because He fulfilled the Law and we couldn't. More than ever we need Jesus who redeemed us from our sins. Not only because He fulfilled the Law (of the Ten Commandments by far), but also fulfilled an even higher law that is the Kinngdom standard.

Jesus death on the cross established the New Testament. In doing so we now have a new Law written in our hearts.

PandN- thanks for the adjustments or small changes you made. I now have a better understanding of what you meant.


Stargrrl 20 months ago

P&N Good hub. I like the way you formatted it with the call outs. What would you say to someone who goes around saying that Paul was a liar?


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Rich,

The covenants of God are based on His character. In each and every covenant are His eternal values that cannot be abolished. What the institutional Church misses are the characteristics of God that are clearly shown within them. They like to say everything was abolished because then it justifies that they can build their own man-made foundations to erect their own empires upon. The institutionalized Church is NOT built upon the foundation of God and will crumble in their temporal vain works.

The character, principles and foundation of the Kingdom is built upon the foundation of Jesus Christ. It will never crumble because it is built upon everlasting principles that come from the Father.

The foundation that God has laid is Jesus Christ. The laws and covenants pointed to him.

According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. For no one can lay a foundation other than THAT WHICH IS LAID, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST. - 1 Corinthians 3:10-11


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Graceinus,

Thank-you for adding to the theme. I was trying to convey that the principles of God that have been attested throughout the Bible have not changed. Jesus Christ did not come to abolish these moral principles, but to reveal more insight into them. We can only be illuminated to them when we allow the spirit of Christ to change us.

With the fulfillment of the Law through Jesus Christ, it brought in Kingdom commands built off of the principles of God’s eternal moral laws. A closer look at the Kingdom laws that Jesus spoke reveal a higher standard as you mentioned.

It has been shown throughout history that man cannot keep God’s Laws. Even today, man cannot even keep the higher commands of Jesus Christ. The truth is we will never be able to live up to God’s moral standards unless we allow Him to change us through His Son.

I believe that the moral principles set forth in the law of the Ten Commandments are timeless and were not abolished. Jesus Christ fulfilled them, but if he had abolished them, there would be no bar to raise off.

I believe that the commands of Jesus can only be followed unless we have the assistance of his spirit within us. Unless we listen to, and know the voice of Jesus, we will never comprehend the narrow way. Many abide by the Church systems way that says all was abolished and nailed to the cross. If you abolish it all, then God’s character gets thrown out and replaced with man’s carnal principles. The result we can see today is greater moral decay just as in the time of Lot and Noah.

The narrow way is not easy and requires people who are willing to persevere and be overcomers. The narrow way is not legally trying to obey the commands of Jesus, but having a desire to live them out. Many have no desire at all and concede to their sinful lifestyle abusing God’s grace as a license to sin.

As you said, it requires a change of heart. It is about hearing God’s voice with a desire to do what he says. Unfortunately, the principles of Kingdom commands are not taught within the Church system because they look for their own greatness adding legal requirements desiring to control the people within their own man-made kingdoms.

Every covenant that God has made with mankind throughout history reveals His moral character. Righteousness and justice are the foundation of His throne. How we abide by His moral principles as communicated to mankind throughout history will affect our standing before Him.

I choose to seek first the Kingdom of God and strive to learn and abide in the eternal moral principles that are written on my heart, not out of legal obligation, but a desire to do so.

God Bless.


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Stargrrl,

I was glad that the callout feature was added to Hubpages. It helps make every Scripture verse stand out within an article.

In regards to you question, it would take deeper study of Scripture to reveal that Paul was not opposing Jesus Christ at all. There are several groups that will give their convincing arguments otherwise, but I would say start off by taking a deeper look at the purpose of Jesus' ministry, which was to FULFILL the Old Testament covenants and bring the truth of the Kingdom FIRST to the JEWS, then to the Gentiles (Romans 15: 8-13). THEN there was with the ministry of Paul (Romans 15: 14-22) to the GENTILES, AND then contrast the ministry of the Gentile EKKLESIA to the JEWS (Romans 15:23-33).

An understanding of the minister and the people group that was ministered to is important along with understanding the transitional period from the old covenant to the new covenant age. There are quite a lot of dynamics in the New Testament and that is why there are so many different conflicting doctrines out there. We must remember there is only one true doctrine and the only way of finding it is through the spirit of Christ who is your Teacher. Your question is a loaded one and would require much study on your part to get a full answer you are looking for.

Usually a skeptic of Paul will give their "proof" verses. Since there are so many, each one would have to be done on a case by case basis. Many are turned off at the ministry of Paul because they believe he was the creator of the false institutionalized Church system where we see the endless denominational religious buildings on every other street corner today. When we look at Jesus' words, they may seem to oppose Paul, but that is where the illusion of apparent contradictions and skepticism comes into play.

I would ask God to reveal the truth to you. Read different articles from both sides of the debate on the subject, and most importantly compare and contrast what you read with the right context of what is written in Scripture. This all takes time.

Some of the doctrines that I once believed to be true required many years of study with God's help to unindoctrinate from the many false teaching I was exposed to when I was within the Church system. Being a disciple of Jesus Christ starts when you allow him to teach you over fallible Church men. Too many in the Church system rely on their "experts" to guide them to "truth" and that is what leads them down so many rabbit trails.

You can find all the answers you desire. The SAME truth is available to all those who seek FIRST the Kingdom of God. Important note: the Kingdom of God is not the Church building.


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Rosualdo Ponce 20 months ago from Gawad Kalinga Village Ticad, Bantayan, Cebu, Philippines

When it comes to covenant, the new replace the old. When it comes to commandment or law, whether moral or ceremonial, the commandment of Jesus abolished them all after he fulfilled and institute his grace. The law, whether moral or ceremonial cannot save a guilty sinner apart from grace. The law given to Moses only reveals sin. The grace given to Jesus saves the sinner. The law and grace cannot work together, for the law brings curse but the grace take the curse. If God is not concern for the salvation of humanity, no need for giving his Son, if the law can stand forever to bring righteousness to the guilty. If you are considering the law to be applicable in the arena of grace, then the grace has no value on you. No one can fulfill the law except Jesus, and that's the reason why he abolished ( fulfilled ) and set us free from curse of the law. The law says, "Do this and live," but no one can live, because no can fulfill. The grace says, "Live and do," "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,"


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Rosuland,

To use the term “guilty sinner” must mean that there is law. God’s moral laws have not been abolished. It doesn't matter what covenant, commandment or law we are talking about, God’s divine eternal moral laws are within all of them, which includes the law of Christ.

God’s moral Laws and His grace have always worked together because they are part of the nature of God.

Those within the Church system wave their banners of “grace” around believing they are free from the constraints of God’s moral laws because somehow Christ abolished the moral principles inherent within them.

It is an impossibility to separate God’s divine moral laws from mankind because they are needed to define sin and point them to Christ.

Jesus Christ came to remedy the penalty of our past and present sins. We can receive ability to overcome them by his spirit and "go and sin no more.” He is our example of being worthy of fulfilling the Law. Fulfilling the Law does not mean he abolished God’s moral laws. The doctrine of grace does not mean that God’s moral laws are abolished either.

Noah found grace in the eyes of God long before the events at Sinai. Guess what? God’s moral laws were in effect then.

But Noah found GRACE in the eyes of the LORD. – Genesis 6:8

Being “under grace” is not in opposition to God’s moral laws. That is a Church notion. If man was not under moral law at any time during the course of history, then sin would not exist. Sin is defined as the transgression of the law.

To acknowledge that there are sinners means that the divine laws of God are in effect. What Jesus Christ did on the cross was never meant to change or abolish God’s moral laws.

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAW WITHIN THEM, and I will write it on their hearts. – Jeremiah 31:33

You seem to suggest that God’s grace and moral laws cannot work together. If that is the case, then there would be no need for terms in Scripture like rule, reign, submit, obey, etc…

Grace in the followers of Jesus Christ is the expression of the spirt of God’s direction under the LAW of Christ. The fruit of a follower of Jesus Christ is the result of submitting to the law of Christ via the grace that is within them. Christ in us!

Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the LAW OF CHRIST. – Galatians 6:2

ALL the laws and covenants of God throughout history have His absolute moral laws inherent within them. God’s grace and His moral laws are a part of who God is and cannot be separated. Justice and mercy are the foundation of His throne.

It would be absurd to think that Christians think that they are exempt from the restraints of God’s moral laws because they are now under “grace.” Unfortunately, they do. Look at the mess that they have made with their thousands of different man-made doctrines they have made for themselves.


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Rosualdo Ponce 20 months ago from Gawad Kalinga Village Ticad, Bantayan, Cebu, Philippines

The ten commandments are God's covenant with Israel for holy living not for mankind, the replacement was made because no one can fulfill (Hebrew 8:7-13). Take the wordings of v. 13, By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear. Will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished (Matthew 5:18). What law that Jesus fulfilled and accomplished that will disappear?(Matthew 5:17), the only law on your mind? or all the law of the old covenant including the ten commandments? The perfect, eternal moral law of God is not the ten commandments but it is Jesus, the Love of God (John 3:16). Slavery and freedom cannot work together (Galatians 5:1). Do not equate The ten commandments as God's moral law, It is finished(John 19:30).


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Rosualdo,

Did you completely ignore what I just wrote in my previous comment to you?

You are just a parroting what they say to you on the pulpit.

The principles of God's moral laws were in the Ten Commandments because they are a copy and shadow of the heavenly things as stated in the beginning of the article.

Whether the covenants that God made with certain people and groups become obsolete does not change the principles of God's moral laws, which are shown to be inherent in the Ten Commandments.

Men like Noah, Abraham, Lot and Moses found the grace of God under God's eternal moral laws. Even with God's temporal covenants, there was always a way to receive God's grace. Obedience always led to life and disobedience led to death. This started with Adam and Eve and has progressed throughout history. There were men in the Old Testament where God’s poured out His spirit upon them and they were granted His grace even before the time of Jesus Christ. The men who received grace were the ones who responded to Him in obedience in their lives.

The desire of God in of ALL of Scripture is that all would repent, turn from their sin and reconcile with Him. When repentant sinners in the Old Testament turned back to God from their rebellion to loving obedience, He poured out His grace upon them.

Today, it is no different. God desires for us to repent and seek after Him. The only difference is that it is done through Jesus Christ, not through the ordinances and legalities of the Law.

Under the New Covenant God's desire is the exact same. When we choose God's gift of grace through Jesus Christ and filled with his spirit, we are given the ability to fully obey God's moral commands. The gift of God by what Jesus did is the ability to do His will willingly.

God's commands have opened up to an even higher level, or standard through the teachings of Jesus Christ.

God has not changed through all the " fulfills," "abolishes" and "obsoletes" because His moral principles are timeless. Today, every true follower of Jesus Christ desires to follow them and those in rebellion will want to abolish them.

The Church system does not teach, or obey the commands of Jesus. All they emphasize are their butchered forms of "grace" that they have invented for themselves believing that it will save them blinded in the captivity of their disobedient man-made religious system.

The Ten Commandments were fulfilled by Jesus, but not abolished. The fact is Jesus opened up and illuminated them to an even higher level, but I get the feeling you do not want to hear about that.


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Rosualdo Ponce 20 months ago from Gawad Kalinga Village Ticad, Bantayan, Cebu, Philippines

I respect your views, then respect also the view of others, or else pride is there. The law that God put in man's heart is not the Ten Commandments but the law of grace that Jesus brings not with Moses. If a man fail to do just one of the Ten Commandments he is guilty of all, and God will not impose the law that no one can fulfill.


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Rich kelley 20 months ago from The Ekklesia

Rosualdo

You are correct God did not impose the law no one could fulfill, Jesus Christ a man accomplished this, making his blood sinless and acceptable as a sacrifice for our sins. There can be no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood.

Respect is a prideful thing in it's self, man made. If you are incorrect there is no need for me to respect what you are saying. You can say anything you like but that doesn't mean anyone has to respect it. I can bring sinful actions home and my father doesn't have to accept it or respect it. He may still love me but not my thoughts or actions. Your implication that because people disagree with you is pride, is so wrong. Not much different than saying a man sleeping with a man is wrong, but because others disagree, then I'm prideful.

There is no scripture that says the law that God will put in our hearts is not in fact the principles of the Ten commandments of God. The law of Moses was created because man couldn't keep the 10 commandments of God. The 612 or so laws that we hear spoken of are not the 10 Commandments of God, but the laws of Moses. (directed by God to write, yet Moses wrote them in obedience) The 10 Commandments of God, were written by the finger of God.

We have a chance for eternal life because God had a plan the moment He said "Let there be light". Part of that plan was the shed blood of Jesus. That blood was accepted by God as forgiveness of OUR sins. God will remember them no more as far as the east is from the west. We don't get to use the word grace to ignore what God already has in place by his Own hand. Grace doesn't mean you can murder, the Commandments of God say you cannot murder and be part of the kingdom of God.

Man can keep the 10 commandments, the testimony of Jesus proves that.


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Rich kelley 20 months ago from The Ekklesia

The law that Jesus fulfilled (not abolished) was the temple/sacrifice method God had established via Moses Laws. It is not abolished because the blood of Jesus still forgives repentant sinners, and the temple is now us the living stones, and Jesus is our High Priest.


Michael Milec 20 months ago

Then the Ten Commandments are good reminders of the past, for those who are in Christ Jesus; we have received the Spitit of sonship (Rom.8)... we live by faith not by sight and now is being revealed through the Good News that the beginning and the end of the process by which God puts men right with himself is faith. As Scipure says 'the man who is right with God through faith will live.'


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Does loving God with all our heart, soul and mind abolish the Ten Commandments because Jesus spoke of a "New Commandment" in John?

A NEW COMMANDMENT I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. – John 13:34

Does Jesus Christ fulfilling the Ten Commandments bring an end to them?

The answer is right here,

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I HAVE NOT COME TO ABOLISH THEM BUT TO FULFILL THEM. – John 5:17

If the Law was destroyed, the why are we called by Jesus Christ to teach them?

..but whoever DOES them and TEACHES them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. – John 5:19

The word fulfill (4137. Pléroó) does not bring destruction to them. What Jesus Christ did for the Law was to bring and give fuller meaning to them by magnifying them.

The LORD was pleased, for his righteousness’ sake, to MAGNIFY his law and make it glorious. – Isaiah 42:21

The Church system does not DO what Jesus Christ commanded them to do. They DO NOT teach the commands of God as their man-made “grace” replaces and abolishes them.

Matthew chapter 5 is all about magnifying the Law, not ending it. The word fulfill means to make full and be obeyed as it should be. Jesus Christ is our example of doing this. He obeyed and carried out the Law to its fullest and magnified it. Those within the Church system contradict Jesus’ words by saying the Law was abolished and ignoring what fulfill means.

Here are some examples if we replaced to word “fulfill” in Scripture with the word “abolish” (2647. katalysai), which means to destroy.

But Jesus answered him, “Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to DESTROY all righteousness.” – Matthew 5:15

Is it fitting to destroy/abolish all righteousness? Of course not!

But now I am coming to you, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy DESTROYED in themselves. – John 17:13

Did Jesus come to destroy/abolish joy? No, the fulfillment of joy was knowing the Father through Jesus Christ whom He sent.

…of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God that was given to me for you, to make the word of God DESTROYED – Colossians 1:25

Did Paul minister to abolish God’s word? No, he magnified it, Christ in us!

It is simply common sense that to use the word abolish butchers the intended meaning and context of Scripture. It should be obvious that the word “fulfill” fits perfectly as it should.

Where there is no Law, there is no sin. If there is no sin, then there is no need for a Savior. The Church pulpiteers sell their counterfeit “grace” and their religious minions gobble it up believing that they can continue sinning because “grace” abolished the Law.

On these two commandments depend ALL the Law and the Prophets.” – Matthew 22:40

This verse should make it abundantly clear that the counterfeit “love” doctrine does not destroy all the rest of the moral commands of God.

Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. – Revelation 22:14

Notice that commandments are not singular, meaning that “love” does not destroy the rest.

Not a “letter” or a “,” or a “.” or the dotting of an “i” or the crossing of a “t” is going to pass from the law as long as heaven and earth are existing.

Loving our neighbor was not a new law, it was “new” is a sense that that Jesus’ followers were called to lay their lives down for each other as Jesus did for them. This is the testament of the magnified love of the Ekklesia as evident in Scripture. This love was magnified from the foundation and principles of God’s moral law of love that is the characteristic of God from the beginning of the world. All we have to do is compare Matthew 22:35-40 with Leviticus 19:18 to see that it is not new.

And now I ask you, dear lady—not as though I were writing you a NEW COMMANDMENT, but the one we have had from the beginning—that we love one another. And this is love that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, just as YOU HAVE HEARD FROM THE BEGINNING, so that you should walk in it. – 2 John 1:5-6

God’s moral Laws have not been abolished and are still relevant today as they have been from the beginning.


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Rosualdo Ponce 20 months ago from Gawad Kalinga Village Ticad, Bantayan, Cebu, Philippines

If it is only in your mind that you are correct, then you considered yourself as infallible. Respect base on love not on knowledge, pride cannot produce love. Prove that the law mentioned in Matthew 5:17 is not the Torah or the Ten Commandments. Jesus, when speaking Matthew 5:17 did not fulfill the law, the verb that has been used are present tense, abolish, fulfill. Matthew 5:18, speaks the past tense when Jesus accomplished the law. Will by any means disappear from the law until everything is accomplished. Jesus has already accomplished the law, then that law disappeared. This is the proof that all the law disappeared. Jesus did not use the term abolished in verse 18 not like in verse 17, but you must understood the term which He used, ACCOMPLISHED = DISAPPEARED. Can you use the things that already been disappeared? Does God will continue to apply on us the things that already been disappeared? Jesus is the end of the law, to put and end of the law of slavery and curses, to bring freedom and righteousness, which the Ten Commandments cannot do. If you found righteousness from God through that law, then go on. If that law stand forever, no need for the shedding of Christ's blood. The day of atonement is the proof that all the law given to Moses cannot satisfy the righteousness that God desires. Hubs in this site is the author's personal view, and the author must recognize the reader's viewpoint, agree or disagree. If you disagree with others in this site, give also others the right to disagree with you, do not hold on to the self righteousness mentality. Do not use the Scripture easily for your convenience, if you know to how dust off your sandals, others can do it also. If you considered yourself knowledgeable of the Scripture, try the devil if you if you can beat him regarding the Scripture (Matthew 4:6).


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Rosualando,

By your comment, I believe that you don't understand the context of the article. You have either ignored my other two comments to you, or you simply don't understand what I am saying in them.

Second, you have redefined "disagreement" and somehow you equate it to mean "pride." Others have pointed that out to you, but you have ignored them.

Third, calling me self-righteous is simply an unfounded accusation.

Fourth, "accomplished" (genētai. 1096 [e]) from Matthew 5:18 does not mean "disappear." I referenced the word from the interlinear with the Greek concordance and there is no "disappear" among the definitions.

Can you see your pattern here?

It is common for people like you to call others prideful, unloving and self-righteous when something does not align with their denominational agenda. I'm sorry, but I am not part of your Church agenda so you are barking up the wrong tree with your ad hominem attacks.


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PlanksandNails 20 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

The Law does not save us, it should point us to Jesus Christ who fulfilled them. The Law will always stand whether people will choose God's grace, or by their own merits. The Law in itself reveals the holiness of God and the rebellion of man.

What then shall we say? That the law is sin? By no means! Yet if it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin. - Romans 7:7

It is through Jesus Christ that we are set free from the law of sin and death that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us.

Jesus never said that the law was no good, and don't think about them anymore because they have been abolished. What he said is that they are good and he was the fulfillment of them.

God's standard has not changed. We can choose to have the law written on our hearts by accepting the grace of Jesus Christ, or go by our own merits. Either way, the law still stands.

To fulfill the law is to interpret it correctly and that is an area of the heart that only Jesus Christ can show us by his spirit. Those who are followers of Jesus Christ will obey God's moral laws as they were intended to be obeyed, which is from the heart.

When the moral laws of God are interpreted correctly, the result will be people who look more like Jesus Christ instead of a Pharisee.


Bob 13 months ago

Greetings, Would I be permitted to use the picture of the Ark showing the ceremonial laws for teaching purposes only?

Thanks,

Robert


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PlanksandNails 13 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Robert,

Feel free to use any picture you would like.


Robert 13 months ago

Thanks so much. You have a really nice web site.

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