Is Your Life Decided By Fate Or Do You Believe In Free Will?

Do you dream something that then comes true?
Do you dream something that then comes true? | Source

'There is no such thing as accident, it is Fate, misnamed'! - Napoleon Bonaparte

Sometimes in life strange things happen that make you step back and ask the question:

'Was that fate intervening or just dumb luck, good or bad?'

I am sure you know what I mean. You are thinking about someone you haven't seen in a very long time, then wham, there they are standing in front of you.

That's either fate, precognition or just plain life. But what happens if something more disturbing makes you stop dead in your tracks?

I have come to believe that Fate does indeed have a hand in our affairs. Which can be quite scary but also pretty awesome.

Take dreams for example. how many of us have dreamed something strange only for it to happen the next day?

So what's the difference between precognition and Fate?

Fate A painting of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov of Russia on Grigori Rasputin's shoulders.The Tsar and Empress in the background.Painting by St Peterburg's painter,Michael G. Kudrevatykh.1990. Was it Fate they met?
Fate A painting of Tsarevich Alexei Nikolaevich Romanov of Russia on Grigori Rasputin's shoulders.The Tsar and Empress in the background.Painting by St Peterburg's painter,Michael G. Kudrevatykh.1990. Was it Fate they met?
The Three Fates
The Three Fates | Source

'That's life, whichever way you turn, good old fate sticks out its foot to trip you'.

Fate is what some people believe to be either God's plan for you, or the rule of the Universe.

It does seem strange to think that every single person in history had fate on their side. Or should I say, against them. But bare with me, it does make sense. Take precognition for example.

Many people round the world state that they knew something was going to happen, to them, or someone else at some stage in their life. Either on a grand scale or just locally.

So how does this work?

If you believe in precognition, then you are basically an observer. In other words, Its not Fate that's in charge of things happening around the world, its actually time travel.

Not literally but mentally. In other words physics come into the equation. This is called the Block theory. I do tend to believe in this to a certain degree. It does make sense. To understand it more just go to Google and put in Block Theory Time.

But you are not part of that, you are just given a glimpse to show what's going to happen. Its not your fate, its other peoples.

But why would you be shown this if its not to do with you?

Fate, on the other hand, makes sense too.

And here's why.

Fate
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Was it Fate that decimated Pompeii ?
Was it Fate that decimated Pompeii ? | Source

The ancient Romans stated that:

'Deja Vu is just God telling you that you are in the right place at the right time!'

Does Fate show you your path?

How? Well think about it. How many of us suddenly get one of those Deja Vu moments?

Scientists claim that Deja Vu, when you believe you have been somewhere before even though you know you have never ever visited the place, is purely just a blip in our mental cognitive state.

But the Romans believed it was something else.

'Deja Vu is just God or Gods telling you that you are in the right place at the right time'!

Wow, now that's something to think about!

What if that is true? What if Fate is telling you that yes, you remember this place because I have placed it in your mind to make sure you are there on time!

So if this is true, and lets be honest, its pretty scary to think of. What about free life?

I do have a theory of that, but we will come to that in a moment. First, here's a few weird happenings that I have experienced in the past that made me think:

What the hell happened there?'

''Fate, Its like someone sneaking up on you, then handing you the answer on a piece of paper'

— Nell Rose
Carl Hansen (1804-1880) Reading a book then getting an email, Fate or just coincidence?
Carl Hansen (1804-1880) Reading a book then getting an email, Fate or just coincidence? | Source

From a book to a Cab....!

Throughout my life I have noticed a few strange incidents that make me wonder if everything is planned out. Take the other day for instance.

I had finished my book the night before, rushed down the town to buy groceries and then suddenly remembered that I needed something to read.

Diving into the nearest Charity shop, I literally grabbed the first book I thought looked reasonably interesting, rushed out and carried on my day. After reading a few pages of the book, which I have to add I had never heard of before, or knew the author, I put it down and got on with the job of opening up my emails.

There in great capital letters were the words:

Nell, would you like to get free Tickets to see the film ROOM? collect them from......

I just stared at the screen. What? That was the darn book I had grabbed off the shelf, never heard of before and so on. The same day I get this message?

Okay, you may say, well its a well known film over in America, but I live in England and had never ever seen it advertised before. It definitely wasn't shown on TV.

Another time I jumped out of a car at 3 am, long story, and needed a desperate ride home. I looked up and mumbled under my breath, 'Please God, can you help'?

Its not something I would normally do, but 3 am, scary and dark, and on my own I was feeling pretty vulnerable.

Anyway, next second a London Cab came round the corner! Now this was 30 miles away from London, in the back streets of a huge town. Nobody was around, all was in darkness and yep, he stopped for me!

Fate? Yes I am beginning to believe in it!


'Fate is just the Divine Creator lighting the way'

— Nell Rose

Fate or Telepathy?

I am a great believer in Telepathy. Not only does it work, it makes sense. If you get down on the Quantum level its all to do with atoms and electricity. But what if.....?

Okay, so you bump into someone you thought of last night. You haven't seen them in say 15 years. I always say its telepathy, but what about Fate? Just think, if you are meant to meet up with them because of Fate, then its common sense to think that you would actually dream or think of them beforehand.

Its a bit far fetched I agree, but its something that should be looked at. Telepathy or Fate?

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

As for 'Free Life' as I call it, I do think most of what we do is pretty much open to change, only key things in our life are down to Fate stepping in. For example, say you change your job, get married, move house etc, then that's free. But if you suddenly stop and think, no this isn't the right way to go. Then Fate is giving you a nudge.

Get it? I am beginning too.


The amazing Twin Jim's separated at birth.
The amazing Twin Jim's separated at birth. | Source

Don't believe me? Meet James meet James!

Its not very often that you find twin brothers sharing the same first name, but not the second. But then again you won't see this sort of thing happening every day either.

The story starts when they were separated at birth and adopted by two different families, Springer and Lewis.

They both grew up with a dim knowledge of each other, but never made contact. And both adoptive families didn't never had the chance or inclination to meet.

The first coincidence was the fact that they were both christened with the name James. This in itself was pretty strange, but it doesn't stop there.

For some reason the Springer family told their son that his twin had died, and the other family weren't interested in finding out about the other twin.

Years passed, until one day, Jim Lewis decided to track down his brother. They were 37 years old by this time.

After finding each other, they decided to meet up. they were both really nervous, but on February 9th 1979 their bond was once more restored.

And then they told their stories, and boy was it a strange one!

Both were adopted by parents who lived in Ohio, only 45 miles apart.

They both had a dog named 'Toy', and when they were older, both married twice.

Okay, here comes the Twilight Zone part.

Both wives were named Linda, and their seconds wives were named Betty! They both had sons who they called James Allen.

Their houses were the only ones in their block, and they had woodworking shops in their garage.

The also had Chevrolet's, and were both County Sheriffs!

When they were tested by psychologists, it was found that their brains were literally identical! They could have been one man.

Which is all great and good, but to find two women each with the same name takes it into the realm of fantasy let alone the same car, same type house and even a dog with the same name! Phew!

Fate and Genetics! What a great combination!

Fate Hugh Williams
Fate Hugh Williams | Source

Hugh Who?

This one brings to mind the quote:

'One is chance, two is coincidence, three is a Pattern'



Especially if your name is Hugh Williams!

Here's the story:

In 1660, a ship sank off the coast of England, near Dover. There was only one survivor. His name was Hugh Williams.

Just over a hundred years later in 1767 another ship sank in the same spot, and guess what? Yes, there was only one survivor. Hugh Williams! But it doesn't stop there.

In 1820 a ship, in the Thames, which is the main river artery between London and the coast, capsized and all on board drowned. Apart from one man. Yep, another Hugh Williams!

But it doesn't stop there, on no..........!

In the second World War, 1940 to be exact, a German mine blew up a ship, and yes wait for it.......

This time there were two survivors! Phew! So the weirdness was broken? Er, well, no.....

Both survivors were named:

HUGH WILLIAMS!

It was a man and his nephew!



Mark Twain and his Fate.
Mark Twain and his Fate. | Source

Did You Know?

  • Mark Twain was born in 1835, at the same time Haley's Comet was in the sky. He died in 1910 from a heart attack, when Haley's Comet was once again in sight of earth. Mark was said to have quoted: I was born with Haley's Comet, and I expect to go out with it! And yes he did!
  • In 1920, three men where traveling by train. After chatting a while they discovered that one was named Powell, the next Bingham, and the third.....Bingham-Powell! And no, they were not related!
  • Its 1883, and Henry Ziegland has broken up with his girlfriend. She is so distraught she commits suicide. Her brother, mad as hell shoots Henry, then shoots himself. But Henry is still alive! The bullet only grazed his face and the bullet hits a nearby tree. A few years later, Henry decides to cut down the tree. It was difficult to cut so he uses dynamite to blow it up. The tree is blown over, the bullet shoots out and kills Henry. Fate came to call!


The most famous of all Fate stories has to be the real life tragedy of the Titanic ship that sunk because it hit an iceberg.

But fourteen years before the accident, there was a novel named Futility. The story? A ship is hit by an iceberg and sinks. The ships name, Titan!

Do You Believe In Fate?

  • No, not a chance, I am the master of my own Fate!
  • Not sure, I need to research it a bit more before I make up my mind.
  • Yep, totally!
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So, if you think its a coincidence that you bumped into your long lost friend who you dreamed of the night before, think again.

Its Fate!

© 2016 Nell Rose

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DDE 10 months ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

You shared a valuable hub I believe in free will. An interesting a well-summed up hub.


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks so much DDE, glad you liked it. Yes its pretty weird isn't?


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Blond Logic 10 months ago from Brazil

Hi Nell,

Fascinating read. I am currently reading a book by Gaye Muir and it has changed the way I view life here, and beyond. There is so much more when you just stay open to ideas.

One book I read called E2 by Pam Grout puts forth exercises to show that there is more to these so called , "coincidences" than we think.

You have some very interesting examples.


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks Blond Logic, yes I do believe there is a lot more out there than we think too, I am just reading about the new quantum theories, and they blow my mind! I will check out that book you mentioned, and thanks so much, nell


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sallybea 10 months ago from Norfolk

Nell Rose

Like you I have always been fascinated by stuff like this. I have had too many things happen to me which are unexplained and much more than just co-incidence. A very enjoyable and well-researched article with some great images.

Well done!


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks Sally, I love these sort of things, and its funny because now I am writing about fate something else has come up that makes me want to write another one really quickly that connects to this! lol! so its going down in notes at the moment so I don't forget! thanks again, nell


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always exploring 10 months ago from Southern Illinois

You can't make this stuff up, it's amazing! I am a firm believer in fate. The twin's story proves a connection that's undeniable. I thoroughly enjoyed this article. Thank you for sharing.


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Hi Ruby, great to see you! its been a while since I wrote a hub, so its great to be back! and thanks so much, it is a fascinating subject isn't it?


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MizBejabbers 10 months ago

As usual, Nell, you've done a really great job explaining some of the supernatural.

I think that Fate has to do with the soul contract we make before we are born into this world. Free-will is how we exercise that contract. If we refuse to keep the contract, free will has really screwed us up and we will have to do it over again in another incarnation. Precognition isn’t fate because it isn’t set in stone. Precognition can be a warning that something needs to be changed. If we heed the warning and make the change, we can’t call it fate.

Too many people want to call coincidence fate or even Karma. If the incident doesn't affect the person's life in any appreciable manner, I see no reason to call it that.


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Hi Miz, great points, and I am glad you liked it, it totally fascinates me, I am still learning, nell


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RedElf 10 months ago from Canada

Fascinating subject - I don't believe in coincidence. That being said, I'm not sure I would like to believe in the total pre-ordination of our lives either. Free will definitely plays a part, by my reckoning anyway. But I certainly have felt "nudged" at times :)


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks RedElf, yes its confusing, but I do think something does give us a nudge as you say, or maybe its just our mind thinking ahead before we realise it? now there's a thought, lol! thanks for reading, nell


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MsDora 10 months ago from The Caribbean

All the stories you tell are amazing. Wish I knew understand what to make of these "coincidences." I'll just say that life surely has many surprises and that I like your writing about them . Super interesting!


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks so much MsDora, and its always lovely hearing from you, nell


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Jackie Lynnley 10 months ago from The Beautiful South

Astounding and amazing! Especially those conjoined twins! It would seem they may share very much the very same thoughts! That in itself would be a good lesson in fate. If they have the same thoughts and do the same things then it does seem it is proof as meant to be! Circumstances or how they were raised did not influence a difference. Basically I believe we have wills and choice but something like these things you have written about sure are food for thought!


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Hiya Jackie, great to see you! and yes those twins! how spooky was that? its all very well writing about something we can't prove, but when they are standing in front of you so to speak, well its amazing! thanks as always, nell


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emge 10 months ago from Abu Dhabi

Interesting hub thst has raised agreat subject for discussion. A great effort


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ankit kharola 10 months ago from 1175 Park Center Drive Suite E Vista

very Interesting

subject for discussion


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Vellur 10 months ago from Dubai

Interesting and amazing! You are so right fate does hand out the answer but in the way Fate wants it to be. The strange events that you have written about make me want to believe that Fate has planned it out. But I wonder who has planned Fate. Lot to discuss here!


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AliciaC 10 months ago from British Columbia, Canada

I always enjoy your hubs about the paranormal, Nell. This is another interesting article that contains a lot of food for thought!


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Hi Vellur, that is a great question! who planned Fate? now I have to start looking that up or researching! lol! thanks so much for reading, nell


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fpherj48 10 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Nell.....You know I love your work but I'm going to have to say, I've found my favorite!! This is absolutely FABULOUS. Not only a fascinating topic, but you've done a superb job.

I believe in ALL of it! Always have, always will. No need for me to ponder or pick and choose. ALL of it comes together in one way or another and results in this strange, mysterious and wonderful thing called LIFE!

The tale of the twins has blown me away!! HOW could any of it be possible??? But you see, it IS!

I'm tweeting, sharing and pinning this! Love & Hugs, Effer


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks so much Paula! lol! I am so glad you liked it, yes those twins are really spooky aren't they? I do believe in it, but I think somehow physics is involved! and that's my next case for the intrepid reporter.....LOL! X


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks Alicia, and its always great to hear from you, nell


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Hi ankit, thanks very much, and glad you liked it, nell


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Hi emge, thanks so much, nell


Ruchira Khanna 10 months ago

Hi Nell,

You have brought forward such valid points that I have tried to justify via my fictional book, "Choices"

Girl...we both have the same thoughts :)

Our destiny is decided upon our actions, however; the choices we make in this lifetime will change what we get...


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks Ruchira, yes it seems we do have the same ideas! lol! good luck with your book, and glad you liked it, nell


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savvydating 10 months ago

I love this type of thing. Precognition, fate, miracles. The examples you gave are amazing. That whole thing with the twins was really freaky! Honestly, I think I have next to zero psychic abilities, but I did dream that a friend of mine would die, and she did....and I also dreamed that I would have a son, even though my waking mind was thinking I'd have a girl.

I've also been lucky when it comes to avoiding car emergencies, two of which could have been fatal. Fate or angels have intervened for me a number of times.

Another fabulous article, Nell!


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Hi savvy, thanks for reading, yes it is amazing isn't it? those twins blew me away! that's strange about your friend and you dreaming of a boy, just goes to show that there is more to the world than what we know! thanks for reading, nell


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Frank Atanacio 10 months ago from Shelton

Nell Rose what a very interesting Hub.. makes me think...:)


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Thanks Frank, glad you liked it, nell


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bravewarrior 10 months ago from Central Florida

Nell, you write about the most interesting subjects.

I have a Twilight Zone story to share with you. One day, back in the late 1970s, early '80s, a friend and I were sitting in the lobby of a restaurant in South Florida. For some reason I was telling whoever it was I was with, about one of my best friends when I was in Catholic school in Philly. I hadn't seen her since 1971 and really can't remember why I brought her up or what memory I was sharing. Suddenly, I looked up at the bench across from us, and there she was! I was floored. It was too amazing to be just coincidence.

Then, a few months later I was in a bar in Ft. Lauderdale telling my companion the story I'm telling you now. Damned if I didn't look across the bar and there she sat! Again! We talked for a bit then went our separate ways. We had both changed a lot over the years and found we no longer felt the bond we did when we were kids. But I will remember those two odd occurrences for the rest of my life!


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

Amazing! and that does prove my point! or maybe its telepathy? there are so many explanations but which one to choose? thanks as always, and that was great to hear your story!


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aviannovice 10 months ago from Stillwater, OK

Entertaining and provocative! Once again, Nell, you've done it, but it are ain't Fate. It's your Calling, calling.


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Nell Rose 10 months ago from England Author

lol! Thanks Deb! yes sometimes I do think our free will sucks though, because I always mess up!


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FlourishAnyway 9 months ago from USA

Awesome examples, both personal and worldly. You are so fortunate that the cab showed up just at the right time!


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FlourishAnyway 9 months ago from USA

Back to G+ this.


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Nell Rose 9 months ago from England Author

Thanks so much Flourish!


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Nell Rose 9 months ago from England Author

Thanks Flourish, yes it was a big spooky at the time!


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lawrence01 9 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

Nell

To use an 'anthropomorphic' phrase 'God must be laughing his socks off'

I believe in both, and theologians have been arguing about this for centuries!! (They still haven't agreed on it!)

The Bible is riddled with us having free choices yet God knowing what we'll choose hence it has to be both!

Loved this hub and I'd heard about the Titanic.

Here's another one for you. In Gulliver's travels Jonathan Swift wrote about Mars having two moons 150 years before we discovered them! He also got their size and rotation exactly right yet no one knows how!

Loved it

Lawrence


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Nell Rose 9 months ago from England Author

Wow! now I never knew that! spooky stuff! and I love it! lol! yes I think its both, I mean look at the guy in india. he won the lottery, went to go to work to tell them to stick it, and was suddenly killed by a meteor!


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lawrence01 9 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

Nell

I hadn't heard about that! Moral is when winning the lottery avoid Meteors!


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Nell Rose 9 months ago from England Author

lol! yes good idea! actually it was in all the papers and online yesterday, so sad and poignant, nell


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moonlake 9 months ago from America

My husband and I went to the pet store in our town. We took our little dog with us. A lady stop to talk and pet our dog. She told us her husband had recently died and her dog also passed away within days after her husband died.

We both felt so bad for her. I couldn't get that lady's story out of my head.

That year my husband was diagnosed with cancer. My husband and our dog died within weeks of each other. The dog had never been sick but he also had cancer.

I think we're given messages but we just don't know it at the time.

I believe in both fate and free will. Enjoyed your hub.


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Nell Rose 9 months ago from England Author

Hi moonlake, sorry to hear about your husband, but yes Fate is a pretty weird thing isn't it/ so many patterns, but some we can't quite link, nell


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Peggy W 9 months ago from Houston, Texas

You have certainly written about some interesting coincidences in this hub. If everything was fate and not free choice, then we would be like pawns being played on a chess board. Free will gives us some wiggle room. So many of the authors of science fiction seem to foretell what is actually discovered years later. ESP? Fate? Interesting to ponder. Giving this a share.


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Nell Rose 9 months ago from England Author

Yes that is so true Peggy! Science fiction writers do seem to know whats out there, and coming our way, its pretty spooky isn't it? thanks, nell


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talkmary50 9 months ago from Pacific Northwest

Neil I really enjoyed this hubpage. this is the second one of yours I have read and I have really enjoyed. Keep up the good work.


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Nell Rose 9 months ago from England Author

Thanks mary, glad you liked it, nell


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Glenn Stok 6 months ago from Long Island, NY

Nell, As I get older and continue to experience things that happen in my life, I have come to believe that something else is going on. Could it be fate? I don't dought it.

Many times when I feel that I'm not in control of my destiny, something happens by fate that guides me. It's strange, but I find it interesting.


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Nell Rose 6 months ago from England Author

Thanks Glenn, yes I know what you mean! sometimes weird things happen and I think, What? lol! fate is a strange thing! thanks for reading, nell


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MizBejabbers 6 months ago

@Glen Stok, I know that you are a spiritual person. Try googling Carolyn Myss, who is an authority on soul contracts, fate, destiny, etc. She has answered a bunch of my questions on the subject.


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Nadine May 6 months ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

What a fantastic article on this topic. I loved the examples you shared. Wow! Especially about the twin brothers. I will share this post on my social media. You have made me think. Since we all are spiritual beings that have chosen to experience a human incarnation, I feel that our higher self or Soul have an agenda ( free will), but we do make human decisions due to the environment we live in. I do not believe in coincidences, but yes things do happen for reasons we don't always understand. I do not like to call that fate, because that then means I have no control over my destiny. I rather follow my intuition, which I see as a direct connection line with my higher self or Soul.


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Nell Rose 6 months ago from England Author

Thanks Nadine, I totally agree with you, I love the idea of free will but do believe something in the universe does help us along, and thanks for the share, :)


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ladyguitarpicker 5 months ago from 3460NW 50 St Bell, Fl32619

Hi, I really found this article interesting and full of truth. I do believe in fate and the higher power who presents this to each of us. I believe things happen for a reason. Thanks for this hub, Stella


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Glenn Stok 5 months ago from Long Island, NY

@MizBejabbers - Thanks for that info you left in your comment. I just noticed it. Caroline Myss's writings are interesting.


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Nell Rose 5 months ago from England Author

Hi Stella, thanks so much for reading, yes its intriguing isn't it?


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norlawrence 3 months ago from California

Your article was great and so were the pictures. I really enjoyed it. Thanks


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Nell Rose 3 months ago from England Author

Thans norlawerence, glad you liked it, nell


Nudely 3 months ago

I am a big fan of determinism... shouldn't go into it here because I definitely want to HUB about it.

A Ripley's Believe It Or Not book used to have a tale about an old (olde?) English superstition about sailing on Friday. Twas bad luck, they thought back-in-the-day, to set sail on a Friday. The British Admiralty eager to dispel such a silly notion ordered the HMS Friday to be laid down on Friday, launched on Friday, commissioned on Friday, commanded by a Captain Friday, and further ordered to set sail on her maiden voyage on Friday. She was never seen nor heard from again! Doh!


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Nell Rose 3 months ago from England Author

LOL! never heard of that one Nudely! now I have to look it up! thanks


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quicksand 3 months ago

My fate takes a hell of a long time to show up, but I don't mind waiting.

It's worth it on the long run!

Cheers!


Nudely 3 months ago

Poop... it turns out to be urban legend! So much for published sources! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Friday


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Nell Rose 3 months ago from England Author

Thanks quicksand, lol! good fate would be welcome!


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Nell Rose 3 months ago from England Author

Ah never mind Nudely! LOL!

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