Does A Woman Really Need A Head Covering?

The Myth of the Spiritual Covering

We have another interesting article for you from our Arise E-Newsletter from Christians for Biblical Equality. This should clear up the subject of whether a woman needs a man to be her spiritual head - covering? We received this fine artcle from a young lady scholar from Christians For Biblical Equality. Her name is Lisa Baumert, a former theological intern at CBE, who is a graduate of Wheaton College and is currently pursuing a Masters of Divinity at Princeton Theological Seminary.

Whether woman need a head covering needs to be continually be addressed because there are some Churches that think women are not fit to lead, teach,or prophesy. So let's see what Lisa has to say from her research on this subject of a man as a woman's "spiritual head covering"! Does it really exist?

Lisa says, The term "spiritual covering" has been made popular in the past twenty years, although its idea and practice have existed within the church much longer. This teaching can take several different forms, but at its roots, the message that women need a male "spiritual covering" comes from a belief that some how the Bible forbides women from ministering publically. According to this teaching, women act contrary to the will of God when they preach or teach within the church - especially if there are men in the audience. Futhermore, according to the teaching of women's "spiritual covering," it is only appropriate for women to participate in Christian ministry if they are properly "covered," or in other words, under the authority of a male who is present. Thus, men must provide oversight of all women's service in the church - even women's Bible studies and prayer groups. Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 11 are often interpreted to support this premise. However, when examined, we find that his intention was in fact completely unrelated to these assumptions.

To understand the teachings of "spiritual head covering," it is important to know why Paul was encouraging women to cover their heads in 1 Corinthians 11. Jewish faith, from which Christianity derieved, was characterized by extensive, specific, and strict rules and laws. These rules and laws guided the actions of Jewish believers and distinguished them from the larger world. For Jews, these laws were necessary and important aspects of faith, for being in right relation with God.

Jesus taught however, that those who follow him no longer needed to obey laws; instead, righteousness was based on faith. As early Christian believers abandoned many of their traditional Jewish customs, their newly expressed freedom proved controversial for early Christians. Paul wanted those who had stopped practicing the customs of the Jewish faith to live in accord with those who maintained the laws of Judaism.

Paul's concern for the church in 1 Corinthians, therefore, is unity and mutual love. "I have the right to do anything but not everything is constructive," he says in 1 Corinthians10:23-24, "no one should seek their own good, but the good of others." By asking these women to cover their heads while they worshiped, Paul was encouraging respect for the religious and social culture around them,and to create harmony in the church. This is why in 1 Corinthians 11:13, Paul says, "Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?" Paul is asking them to consider how their actions were affecting all believers as well as the wider culture's perception of the Christian faith.

Scholars believe that Paul was specifically addressing the practices of a religious cult of his day. the women of Dionysus, a popular cult in Corinth at this time, were known to let their hair down to "prophesy" or pray, and were also known for their sexual promiscuity. Tthis long, untamed hair was often associated with sexual immorality; Paul did not want the church to be associated with the immoral activities of this cult.

Lisa goes on to say, moreover, because praying with an uncovered head had sexual connotations at that time, the reputations of these women's husbands were at stake. Paul was reminding these women that because they were married, they had an obligation to respect and honor their husbands in the way that they worshiped.

In 1 Corinthians 11, Paul was not setting forth universal norms for Christian dress, and he was not prohibiting women from teaching within the church. Paul was not saying that women could not pray and preach apart from the authority of their husbands or fathers, and he was not telling women that they must have a spiritual authority over them. Paul's concern was unity and respect in the church. In actuality, this passage affirms women's ability to publically prophesying, praying, and teaching in the church.

So we see that in Lisa's article Paul was being reasonable about how women should present themselves before others in the Greek community by not copying the hair style of the pagan ladies from the Temple of Artemus. There was also something that men where to do. Paul scolds men for having long hair for their covering in 1 Corinthians 11:7. All in all the customs of that day and age were different than what we have today. Paul also said there were no such customs in the church but it was to show respect for others that Christians should shine as lights to their communities, 1 Corinthians 16:13, Matthew 5:14-16. There is nothing said about a man being a "spiritual covering" for a woman in those verses.

Lisa continues to teach us that Jesus taught that the structures of human power often do not reflect the ordering of God's Kingdom. Central to this teaching, she says, are the ideas that "anyone who wants to be first must be the very last, and servant of all"(Mark 9:35) and 'For whoever is least among you all is the greatest ", Luke 9;48. Jesus' life reflected this understanding of power. He incorporated women in his ministry, and chose to use them as integral parts of his redemptive activity on earth. He tangibly demonstrated that the ordering of God's kingdom is different from the way society structures itself, and that in the Kingdom of God, the formerly powerful are often the powerless. Jesus taught and showed that mutual love and self-giving, rather that hierachy and male-only leadership, are the true ideals of Christian life.

Jesus endorsed a radical approach to leadership; leaders and authorities in the church are to be servants. Spiritual leadership is about serving others so that the church might be well organized and peacefull. In 1 Peter 5:2-3, Paul encourages the leaders of the churches to be "Eager to serve; not lording it over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." Thus, the idea of a spiritual covering" is incongruent with Scripture's understanding of servant leadership within the church.

Also significant for our discusion of woman's "spiritual head covering" is the guarantee Jesus made that nothing stand between us and God. This was the purpose of Jesus incarnation-to unite us unconditionally to God. Jesus death and resurrection signaled the removal of all ritual and sacrifice which Jewish tradition required in order to relate to God. We are now able to relate to God in intimate and real ways, regardless of our race , class, or gender. Jesus is our priest and spiritual covering.

The teaching of women's "spiritual covering" has important implications for how we interpret the Bible, how we structure our churches and our homes, how we view ourselves, and how we relate to God and others. It is important to discuss the practical, and unfortunately detrimental, implications of this teaching.

First and most importantly,the idea of a "spiritual covering" denies women their full and free relationship with God. When women need a male spiritual authority they cannot relate to God as intended. This teaching implies that women cannot fully bear the image of God alone. In some cases, spiritual, emotional, and even physical abuse occurs as a result of men having power over women. Women's understandings of themselves and God are obscured, and they cannot fully realize the freedom of the Gospel.

Secondly, when the teaching of "spiritual covering" is practiced in the church, women's gifts are denied and wasted. Service within the church should not be determined by gender, but by personal strengths and gifting. The teaching of "spiritual covering" establishes arbitary and unbiblical standards inhibit the effectiveness of its mission.

Finally, the teaching of a "spiritual covering" distorts the truth of the gospel and reduces the meaning of Jesus. Christ came to set us free from rules and rituals of the law; there is no longer Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, man nor woman. We are all one in Christ - Galatians 3:28, and we all have been given the ability to relate fully and freely to God. Through the Holy Spirit, we all have been empowered to proclaim Christ's love. To deny this is to deny the message of the Gospel and the.life, death and resurrection of Jesus the Christ.

The freedom we have through Christ Jesus means that all Christians can fully and freely relate to God. God alone, and not men, confirms the ability and right of women to approach God and teach and lead others. The true "covering" of women, and of all believers, is the blood of Jesus Christ.

Wow, what a tremendous article to be able to give everyone from this Holy Spirit inspired young lady. We should be glad that CBE can produce such fine young ladies like Lisa. Don't ever think you can't be impowered to do like wise . As Paul was inspired to write in 1 Corinhians 2:4-5,10 > And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in the demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. But God reveals these things to us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searchth all things, yea the deep things of God. Amen.

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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago

Amen! Excellent exposition. I enjoyed your message. You speaketh the truth. Well done!


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lionswhelp 6 years ago Author

James,

Thanks, there is always a need for both men and women to express themselves through the empowerment of the Holy Spirit. One of the major problems of most Chistian churches and even Messianic congregations is not letting women have their say in the work of God. Satan works very hard to keep us apart through our genders but God doesn't let gender interfear with His work because we are all one in Christ Jesus, Galatians 3:28-29.


EmbracingTheTruth 5 years ago

"Christ came to set us free from rules and rituals of the law; there is no longer Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, man nor woman. We are all one in Christ" Well Said!


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lionswhelp 5 years ago Author

Embracing The truth,

Thanks for writing and God bless you.


Errol Kane 5 years ago

Hello Lionwhelp

If I may, I wanted to annotate here, with the truth as to true christian women Headship.

The basic principle of headship is set out at 1 Corinthians 11:3: “The head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God.”

Man’s Place. The first part of this counsel on headship applied to the man; he is not independent and without need to recognize a “head.” Rather, he is obliged to follow the directions and pattern provided by his head, Christ. (1Jo 2:6) This is so not only in regard to his religious activities (Mt 28:19, 20) but also in his personal activities. For instance, if he is a family man, then out of respect for his own head, Christ, he should comply with the counsel to dwell with his wife according to knowledge, ‘assigning her honor as to a weaker vessel,’ and he should put forth an earnest effort to train his children properly. (1Pe 3:7; Eph 6:4) This counsel was provided in the Bible for all in Christ’s congregation; so respect for headship is involved in a man’s heeding it.—Eph 5:23.

As man had priority in human creation, he is given priority of position over the woman. (1Ti 2:12, 13) The woman was made from a rib taken from the man and was bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh. (Ge 2:22, 23) She was created for the sake of the man, not the man for her sake. (1Co 11:9) Therefore, the woman, in God’s arrangement for the family, was always to be in subjection to her husband and was not to usurp his authority. (Eph 5:22, 23; 1Pe 3:1) Also, in the Christian congregation the woman is not to teach other dedicated men nor to exercise authority over them.—1Ti 2:12.

Among the Hebrews of ancient times the superior position occupied by the man in the family and in the tribal arrangement was recognized. Sarah was submissive, calling Abraham “lord,” and is favorably mentioned for this recognition of his headship. (Ge 18:12; 1Pe 3:5, 6) Under the Law covenant the preferred position of the male was emphasized. Only the males were required by command to assemble for the three festivals of Jehovah at the place that God chose, although women also attended. (De 16:16) The woman was ceremonially “unclean” twice as long after the birth of a baby girl as after that of a baby boy.—Le 12:2, 5.

Woman’s Place.

In ancient times, there were circumstances under which a woman put on a head covering to denote subjection. (Ge 24:65) Discussing the headship arrangement in the Christian congregation, the apostle Paul explained that if a woman prays or prophesies in the congregation, occupying a position God has assigned to the man, she should have on a head covering. In temporarily doing these things because no dedicated male Christian is present to do them, even though she may have long hair, the woman should not argue that her long hair is sufficient to denote her subjection. Instead, she should let her own actions demonstrate her submissiveness and her acknowledgment of man’s headship. The Christian woman does this by wearing a head covering as “a sign of authority.” This should be done “because of the angels,” who observe the Christian’s actions and who, as those ministering to the Christian congregation, are concerned with it. By wearing a head covering when necessary for spiritual reasons, the Christian woman acknowledges God’s headship arrangement.—1Co 11:5-16; Heb 1:14.

This proper theocratic order in the congregation and in the family arrangement does not hinder the woman in serving God, nor does it impede her efforts in carrying out her family activities and responsibilities. It allows her full and Scriptural freedom to serve in her place, while still being pleasing to God in harmony with the principle: “God has set the members in the body, each one of them, just as he pleased.” (1Co 12:18) Many women of ancient times had fine privileges while recognizing the headship of the man and enjoyed happy and satisfying lives. Among these were Sarah, Rebekah, Abigail, and Christian women such as Priscilla and Phoebe.

Responsibility. The exercise of authorized headship grants certain rights, but it also involves duties or obligations. ‘Christ is head of the congregation’ and so has the right to make decisions involving it and demonstrate authority over it. (Eph 5:23) But his headship also obliges him to accept the duty of caring for the congregation and bearing responsibility for his decisions. In a similar manner, a husband in exercising his headship has certain rights as to making final decisions and providing oversight. In addition, though, he has the duty to accept responsibility for his family. He has the primary obligation to provide materially and spiritually for his household.—1Ti 5:8.

The Christian man is to exercise his headship wisely, loving his wife as himself. (Eph 5:33) Jesus Christ exercises his headship over the Christian congregation in this manner. (Eph 5:28, 29) As head over his children, a father is not to irritate them but is to bring them up “in the discipline and mental-regulating of Jehovah.” (Eph 6:4) And as shepherds of the flock of God, “older men” in the Christian congregation are not to lord it over God’s “sheep” but are to remember their subjection to Jesus Christ and Jehovah God. (1Pe 5:1-4) Jesus Christ has always acted in accord with the headship principle, manifesting full recognition of his Father’s headship in word and deed. Even after ruling the earth for a thousand years, he will acknowledge Jehovah’s universal headship by handing the Kingdom over to Jehovah, subjecting “himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.” (1Co 15:24-28; Joh 5:19, 30; 8:28; 14:28; Php 2:5-8) Christians, followers of Jesus Christ, also acknowledge Jehovah’s supreme headship, addressing their prayers to him and recognizing him as Father and God Almighty.—Mt 6:9; Re 1:8; 11:16, 17.


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lionswhelp 5 years ago Author

Very interesting Errol,

The word for "headship" is kephale which denotes source of life too. Such as lake being the head of a river. Christ is the source of life for the Church, Adam is the source of life for Eve in that she came from his rib. But now man comes from a woman.Both are to submit to one another in the Lord, Ephesians 5:21. Verse 22 does not exist this way in the orginal Greek it should read woman to the man and man to the woman. No where in Genesis 1 or 2 is any inequality mentioned. Adam and Eve were created as equals with each having particular talents to serve God.

Galatians 3:28- says that God does have a problem with gender and considers both genders suitable for service to God.

Nowhere in 1 Corinthians 11 does it say that a women needs a man as a spiritual covering. She aready has one in Jesus Christ.Both males and females can be in ministry of Christ.

The Father became the source of Life to Christ when he put Jesus as his "seed" in the Holy Spirit's human womb of Mary.Jesus became submissive to the Father while he was human. Now he sits at the Father's side again with full power restored to him, Matthew 28:18-20.

Yes, Jesus Christ has always acted according to the headship principle of source of life too and so should we.


Errol Kane 5 years ago

Mr Lionwhelp, soon, Jehovah will make all things right and when he speaks, all will have to know that it is Jehovah.

Everything has a head sir. The military's on this earth draft their doctrines from the way the heavens expedite their business.

I find it simply amazing how Satan blinds the mind of individuals of even the smallest truth.

You said you did not find the verses. Is it possible sir, even resonable, that you may not have understood it?

Just a question...


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lionswhelp 5 years ago Author

Errol,

I enjoy your comments but of course I disgree with you.

The military is not the Church of God. The military is of mans making usually and has a chain of command ranking which is understond. However, Jesus Christ's Church is not a man made church but is spiritual entity based on God's family plan, Ephesisns 2:18-19; 3:11-17.

We know from Genesis 3 that man now follows Satan's pagan leadership plans were men dominate woman and other men through their hierarchy from the top down.

Jesus corrected his disciples who already were fighting over who was the greatest and should be in charge, Matthew 20:25-28, Luke 22:25-28, Mark 10:42-45. Jesus Christ taught servant leadership and set his own personal example for us John 13:4-10. He didn't come to boss us but to save us by putting his character and righteousness in us via the Holy Spirit. Even in Ephesians 5:21-31, he set this perfect example for us by showing how He loves the Church where the Holy Spirit dwells, 1 Corinthians 12:13-14. Jesus is not the boss of the Holy Spirit but the source by which we can have access to the Holy Spirit, neither are men the boss of women. It's always servant leadership, Ephesians 5: 25-28. The Greeks treated their wives horribile.

He loved his bride even before he married her and gave his life for her, Revelation 19:7-9. This is contrary to what Adam did who should have stopped Eve, even as soon as she touchd the fruit, Genesis 2:17; 3:2-3. It is with Adam that comes this strange pagan chain of command concept that has been leading the world astray for almost 6,000 years.

We all have a direct line to the Father as any children do with their parents no matter when they were born. There is no chain of command here through Jesus Christ. We are all one in Christ as sons and daughters, 2 Corinthiasns 6:15-18.


Errol Kane 5 years ago

There is no chain of command here through Jesus Christ. We are all one in Christ as sons and daughters, 2 Corinthiasns 6:15-18.

Everything is structured Lionwhelp, everything, here on earth as well as in heaven.

Heavens ways are higher than mans sir. This is structured as well, read please and discern

1 Cor. 11: 3, But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God

You don't have to call it rank , call it what you will, you don't have to knit pik, but call it what you will, but there is your structure Lionwhelp.

You don't have to agree with me. Everywhere, there is order to something.

Clear and simple and easy reading. Nothing hard. Even Chrsit has a head, JEHOVAH himself. Even this scritpture dismantles the trinity teaching that the Bible does not teach.

An Army of One, remember that commercial? It ment that they are all for the same thing, taught to aim for the same goals,that they are in agreement with each other for they see eye to eye on every single issue and that they all mirror each other. But, you know something, each and every one of those soldiers are different people, individuals. What do you call that after 3, QuaZillionTrinity? I don't know, but using my common sense, I'm not going to believe that they are all the same. Haha...that was funny to me. Somehow, I got back to the trinity.

Sorry, this was about headship. Wrong area. Everyone has a Head, which to include Jesus.

That's how it's structured sir.


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lionswhelp 5 years ago Author

God's kingdom is structured on family. We can also be part of His army if he needs us. When Christ returns he will abolish war. The last battle will be fought against Gog & Magog and Satan, Revelation 20:7-10.

The Father is he source of life for Christ in that Christ divested himself of all his former glory to become a human for us,to save men & women, John 1:1-14,Hebrew 2:9-16. Adam was the source of life for Eve in that she was made from one of his rib. Now women is the source of life for man. The source of life for both is Christ Jesus, the Father's seed, Galatians 5:28-29,Ephesians 5:21, so we can be born of Ruach HaKadosh the Holy Spirit, John 3:3-8

Do you believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ or not? From my research about JW's you do not. Are you just another one gropping for the truth, John 14:6? Believe Jesus, he now has his full power again and can give you eternal life, Matthew 18-20.


Errol Kane 5 years ago

I believe what the bible has to say and it's clear teaching sir. I do not believe in the trinity for the simple fact, the Bible does not teach the trinity.

The truth is this as to what the Bible teach, clear and simple, Jesus is God's son and BTW, you didn't answer what I said about the Army of one, did you. Jesus is God's son, Jehovah is his Head, Jesus said 'The father is greater than I', like I wouls say about my father, he being greater than I in his guitar playing, very simple and clear to understand. Jesus couldn't grant the son's of Zebedee, the right to sit at the table because jesus knew his limitations and therefore said, what they were asking for was in fact a position that only his father could give.

When Jesus was praying, was he praying to himself?

When he was dying on a stake and not a cross, he said, 'Father forgive them, for they know not what they do', was Jesus suddenly delirious and speaking to himself up in heaven?

Jesus also said that he couldn't do a sinlge thing on his own initiative.

Also, John 14: 28, Jesus said he was going to the Father. Was he going to himself as you would have me to belive sir?

'YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than than I am.'

Please don't become upset with me because none of these things make common sense and neither does the trinity to which peoplem know in their hearts makes no sense and they believe in something that can't even be explained by so-called experst sir.

I USED TO BELIEVE IN IT. I don't any longer since I came out of false religion.

I use to just go with the flow knowing all of it didn't make any since.

Jesus said that you will know his [Presence], much of the world is unaware of Jesus return, which was invisible, he said in Matthew 24: 3 - 14 about his return. Comment on those scripture if you will, but please don't try to convince me of a visible return. he did that already. he also said, 'the world would beholde me know more.' Don't cancel that out. Now if you want, comment on those to. Matthew 24: 3 - 14 , While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”

4 And in answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads YOU; 5 for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. 6 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.

7 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.

9 “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. 13 But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

And comment on this one where said we would not see him anymore. John 14: 19, A little longer and the world will Behold Me No More, but YOU will behold me, because I live and YOU will live.

Also, did you notice that [world] is used here for, what do you think, the trees, the water,the sky, the air? No, [world] is used here for the [people]. Thought I would interject that thought, since it was there.


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lionswhelp 5 years ago Author

God is a Family of One, Elohim, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Genesis 1:1-2,26-27. Yes, God can also be a Army of one, Revelation 19:11-14, Joel 2:1-14.

This world will have only One religion and Church in God's Kingdom, Jeremiah 31:33-36, Matthew 24:30. All Israel will be saved, Romans 11:25-26.

It seems to me that you believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ? Have the JW's changed their minds? Good, if not that may be because you are on a different page with God than I am. So, be careful the JW's may ignore you for thinking on your own.

Jesus Christ taught a triunity of three Beings in verses that I have already given you in, John 3:3-8,16-17, Matthw 28:19, John Chapters 14,15,nd 16. You need to re- read these verses and count them. Its as easy as one,two,three. If you cannot yet undertand them I will understand. Today most so called Christians probably don't know that they are there. Most are just followers and not like the Bereans in Paul's day, Acts 17:10-12.

They follow all types of things like Christmas and Easter, Pre- Rapture and things passed down to them from the RCC, Revelation 17:5, 18:1-5. Most Christians seem blinded to the truths of God even though they seem very sincere about what they believe about Jesus, but God has left them a away out if they try hard to follow the foundation Jesus left for them, 1 Corinthians 3:10-15.

I do not go with what these churches teach though some have some very good teachings. We are independant from them. We keep God's Commandments and his holy Days, Leviticus 23, as Jesus said we should and listen to the Holy Spirit, that other Deity that you ignore, Matthew 5:17-18, John 14:15-16. .

In John 14:19 - Jesus was telling his disciples that he was going up to heaven for awhile. He will return at the Last trump with His army of One John 14;19-21, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17.

Have a nice day.


Errol Kane 5 years ago

I serve Jehovah sir. If it seems that I believe in a Deity of Jesus and Jesus alone is perhaps your lack of understanding sir. I assure you. I serve Jehovah.

However, you can't seem to answer my questions. So, I ask very simply,

What is the kingdom and present to me by scripture what the Kingdom is.

What is the Kingdom that Jesus Preached about. That, is my question.

Questioned asked, now give me an answer please.

And you odn't have to answer that question here. You can send me e-mail. The Kingdom is the question.


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lionswhelp 5 years ago Author

Errol,

Jesus Christ taught about the Kingdom of Heaven. if you are having problems finding the scripture try these in Matthew. If you need more come back and I will give you a whole lot more in the other three Gospels.

Matthew: 3:2;4:17,23;5:3,10,19,20;6:6,10,33;7:21;8:11,12;9:35;10:7;11:11,12;12:25,26,28;

13:11,19,24,31,33,38,41,43,44,45,47,52;16;19,28;18:1,3,4,23;

19:12,14,23,24;201,21;21:31,49;22:2;23:13;24:7,14;25:1,14,34;26:29.

Of course you know that the Kingdom of God is presently in the 3rd Heaven, Matthew 6:9-10-13 but it is soon at hand Matthew 3:2. So we need to repent of our sins and get ready for it's coming down here in the future , Revelation 21:1-2. Jesus preached very emphatically about it. It's were all the poor in spirit,and mourners,meek, and those that hunger for righteousness will be filled. Where they that are merciful will receive mercy because they are pure in heart. Where the peacemakers are, who will be called the children of God,2 Corinthians 6:16-18. Where all those that are persecuted for righteousness will be 10:10-11. It is a place where we can rejoice because we will receive our reward there, verse 12(Revelation 20:1-4.

It is in the Third heaven now but it will becoming here to earth and will be set up when Jesus Christ returns with the Saints to set it up in beginning in Revelation 19:11-14.

This is where God the Father, Jesus Christ and Ruach HaKadosh now live with all their heavenly angels. They will come down here and rule with us forever, Revelation 11:15-19; 12:10-11.

Man is God's greatest creation and they made us in their image: See Genesis 1:26-27- this where The Word who became Jesus Christ, John 1:1-3, who said let us make man in our images, male and female. Elohim means the Family of God. Presently there are three, The Father - Yahovah, the Son the Word-Yashua and Ruach(female) HaKadosh the Mother. Is there anything else you would like to know? Let me know and I can give you some more verses to look up.

I see you do believe in the Deity of Jesus Christ. That's good. Have you done the Jesus count from the verss I gave you. Let me know if you are having any more problems. If you can't get a hold of me right away, then ask for more Wisdon, James 1:5.

Thanks again for writing Errol and remember to keep seeking the Kingdom of God Matthew 6:33. Keep asking and seeking and knocking and God will help you through His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, Matthew 7:7-8.

Have a nice Day.


Errol Kane 5 years ago

Mr Lionwhelp, I never once said I was having problems, for I understand the Bibles clear teaching of what it teach. However, I'm sure you know that. I would say, your attitude is rather sarcastic and that is quite okay.

I asked you what the Kingodm of God was because I wanted your views on it. Now I will give you the Bibles version of what that kingdom is.

Also, please be adivsed that any scripture you recommend, I already know about sir.

Also, please don't be offended when I say, people who are reasonable, meek (teachable) and with thinking abilities will understand the bibles clear teaching on the Kingdom.

Beginning with Matthew 6: 9 and 10, People are praying for that government, yes kingdom, another word for (government) every day.

A Real working administrative government, that will do all the things that a man-made government cannot do for the people here on the earth such as doing away with sickness, crime, diseases, hatred, racsim, poverty, hunger, death, man made Governments that people (perhaps like yourself) vote for. I said perhaps, if you do vote or are political in any way shape or form, then this appliies to you. If not, then simply, it odes not apply to you.

True Justcie will be known, not man's imperfect sense of Justice.

And as Rev. 12: 7 - 12 tells us, that government has been established since 1914, when Jesus was made KING of God's Kingdom government and soon, very soon, that Messianic Kingdom will rule over the whole entire earth. And it will put and end to these earthly governments.

Daniel 2:44,

“And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite

Because of false religion, people don't have a clue as to what they are praying for in Matthew 6: 9 and 10 and it is so clear and concise.

Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.

Fact is, majority of people here on this earth will not accept the truth for Jesus prophecied that when he said at Matthew 7: 13, 14,

“Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

Yes, billions will be destroyed (The Majority of people on the earth) with the exception of those who are on that cramped road becasue it is those people, the few, who are the ones finding life.

Another fact, honesthearted individuals seeking the truth are finding it every day. They will be hated for not voting, or fighting in any kind of wars, they will not be hating their neighbor or killing their neighbor, they will have no politcally affiliation whatsoever.

You will not find then celebrating birthdays, let alone Jesus birthday, holdidays, or any other kind of manmade holidays or tradtions of men. You will not find them saluting any flags or particiapting in any demostrations of any kind. You will not find them adopting the the spirit of the worlds attitudes which reflects satan's attitude or spirit.

And I promise you sir, the world will hate these individuals for their stand for pure worship of the true God Jehovah who will soon make his NAME known among mankind.

These individuals are seperate of the world as Jesus was. No part of the world. They will and are recognized by their fruits.

How a person is treated and talked to is a form of persecution as well, to be killed is the ultimate persection. There are all kinds of persecution.

I can also assure you that who ever reads this post, most will not accept it, but there are those few that Jehovah will draw to him and those few will recognize the Truth. Because the truth will set them free from the traditions of men, superstition, lady luck, and false religion.

Mr. Lionwhelp it was nice talking to you and I mean that and if I should meet you in the real world say perhaps, on your doorstep, on a bus, on a plane, train or where ever, I will still give you a warm smile and bid you a most pleasant day.


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lionswhelp 5 years ago Author

Errol,

I put down Matthew 6:9-10. Great response though, but I do not agree with 1914 and Revelation 12. Revelation 12:14 & Revelation 3:7-13 have not yet happened. All alive will see Jesus coming in the air but the dead shall be raised first, Matthew 24:30-31, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-52. I hope to see you there and escape Revelation 3:14-22. I will then give you a big smile and I bid you a pleasant day also. If not, I will bid you a pleasant day and give you a big smile when I see you there in the Kingdom of God in the future.


Jason 4 years ago

Jesus is Emmanuel, God with us!! Jesus is the word and the word was God, Jesus even said to Nathaniel, how can you still not see it dude, if you have seen me you have seen the Father. Jesus is the everlasting father! The very reason (sorry Muslims) Jesus was crucified was not because he was a prophet but that he made himself equal with God!! Maybe Jesus is God!!

Any covering apart from Christ is a false one and dishonors God. Show me the verse that excludes woman from the 5 fold ministry? Ever heard of the Apostle Junia, the elect lady, Phoebe, Chloe? If Junia can be an apostle (in that corrupt Judaical man made culture of supreme male dominance)why can't she be a pastor or a teacher? and how many more should we have in this day and age?


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lionswhelp 4 years ago Author

Jason,

A really nice comment. The facts show that only Jesus is our only covering for men and women. He paid the price for us both.

Just think how fast the churches would grow if we had more women preachers? Have you heard of the Back to Jerusalem Movement in China. Two thirds of their members are women in these underground house churches of 200,000,000 plus, reaching over 25,000 new souls every day because of the young women from ages 18 to 22 taking the gospel to the Chinese villages and cities.

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