Does God call women to preach

the role of women in the church

The question of women pastors has long been the root of many heated discussions, most modern day preachers will be glad to argue with any and everyone on that particular issue


based on1 timothy 2 :11-12. For those who are familiar with that scripture it will appear that women are to remain silent and submissive in the church. in this hub I will attempt to shed some light on an otherwise controversial subject and I will be happy to get some feed back so don't hold back.

Pick up your Bible and lets get busy walking through the old testament first, there we will learn about some women who played a big role in communicating Gods will to men. One such woman was Deborah,perhaps the most well known of the female prophetess, she was the 4Th judge of Israel. scripture tell us that she could often be found under the palm tree of Deborah holding court and solving the problems of the people

. although women did prophesy in those days the question still remains, was she in leadership position over men? before we answer that lets look at some more female prophetess in the bible. Miriam, the sister of Moses was also a vessel that the Lord used on many occasions as can be seen in numbers 12: 1-2 , a look at Exodus 15: 19-21 shows that her loyal disciples was largely, if not all, women.

then there's Huldah. the prophetess who Hilkiah the priest and 3 others went to on behalf of king Josiah to learn of the meaning of a book which was read to him by Shaphan the scribe. all these scriptures point to women being prophets but a closer look will expose that none of it was done in public but rather in a private setting except for Miriam and as mentioned her congregation was females.

In Jewish society male domination was boldly displayed and women had a limited role in the early church. there was devout women in the church that held the office of deaconess but like male deacons of today their job was to assist the pastor or should I say apostle. In light of all this one might say that the common interpretation of 1 timothy 2:11-12 is correct, women should not preach.

Is it apostasy for a church to allow women to preach? under the old dispensation women was rather suppressed but relegating women to second class citizens was abolished when Jesus died on the cross, there was no more difference between men and women but all is one in Christ, Galatians 3:28... In Romans 16:7 Paul greets 2 fellow apostles that he refers to in high regards , one was Andronicus and the other was Junia which was a woman. translators of the bible over a period of time changed the name Junia to Junias making the name appear masculine.


lets flash back to 1 Timothy 2:11-12, Timothy was in Ephesus when he received that letter from Paul, Ephesus was a main center for paganism, the pagans taught that women was superior to men and some of them had influence in the Christian church , bringing with them their false teaching and arrogant ways they usurp authority and ruled over their husbands, as a resort the church was in a state of chaos. in Paul's letter he was addressing the problem with a solution that would restore order.

some may disagree but the bible does not speak against women preaching, when we accept Jesus as our lord and savior we take on the responsibility of proclaiming the word of God, how can women do that if they can't speak . sisters! take my advice and keep on preaching,teaching and living in a way that is pleasing to God and be not affected by what others believe, if any should have a problem with women preachers let them take it up with God.

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jxb7076 7 years ago from United States of America

This has always been, and will always be a touchy subject but only for those people who have not studied the gospels or who have personal issues with women in power.  The Bible is clear on the role of women in the church.  You correctly listed a few like Deborah, Miriam, and Huldah.  THere are many others like Anna, Phillips four daughters, and the list goes on.

Paul was not literally saying women should keep silent in the curch.  He was simply correcting the way women were prophesizing in the church at Corrinth.  He also corrected men in various cases as well. May I refer you the book titled:  "Why Not Women" by co-authors Loren Cunningham, David Joel Hamilton, and Janice Rogers.  It's an in depth study of Paul's comment about women in ministry. 

The bottom line....Jesus had no problems with women in ministry and neither did Paul.

GReat HUB, thanks for sharing.


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teachingpriest 7 years ago from Chicago

There is no problem with women in the ministry, but there is a problem with women preachers or priest. It was not allowed and is not allow because Eve fell deceived by the serpent.


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

A man will make the Scriptures say what he want it to say so that it will fit in with his own belief, that's why we have so much confussion in the church today.


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee

Thanks for this hub. Thumbs up from a new fan!I certainly believe God uses women in church. I also believe that God uses man as the head of the church and family. However, if man misses the mark, God uses women. We are all together in this Body of Christ. To discuss different roles in service is not to make comment on our worth and use to Christ.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

teachingpriest is claiming the Old Covenant curse of the law of sin and death.  Joel 2:29 prophesied what is again prophesied/confirmed by Jesus in the New Covenant "EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN, I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT And they shall prophesy." (Acts 2:17) Who are bondslaves?  Did Jesus have slaves?  No!  The Apostles were the bond-servants or bondslaves (and this prophesy describes them as "both men and women).  Bondslaves prophesy, which is to tell forth the Word of God!

In the New Testament passages where women had these ordinances over them, it's because they were not schooled and needed to be quiet in the church (called a congregation) and to learn from their husbands at home.  We are now educated!  And having the fruit of the Spirit, we have self-control.  By the blood of Jesus and in the Spirit, no one is bound to ordinances.  The new covenant is summed up in Galatians 5:14 "“For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”  The only two commandments of the new covenant are shown in Matthew 22:37-39 "Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"

No one should stifle the work of the Spirit based on gender, let alone anything else.  Galatians 3:28 is truth "Because all of you are one in the Messiah Jesus, a person is no longer a Jew or a Greek, a slave or a free person, a male or a female."  Women are liberated from under any curse of oppression by the blood of the Lamb.  Praise God for His liberty.  I will never be silent and spread His gospel everywhere. For the harvest is ripe, but the workers are few (Matthew 9:37 / Luke 10:2).

I hope to also write a hub on this subject as the Lord leads, but I am so thankful to find this.  God bless you!


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

Hi Carrie Bradshaw! I like your mind, it's beautiful.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Your mind is handsome! lol ~~~ hey, I didn't even realize when I wrote my hub yesterday morning that indeed it was already the 4th of July, and what an appropriate day to write about the Liberty for Women in Christ! Your hub edged me on to complete it, and it's now published. Hope you get a chance to check it out ~~ God bless you mightily, son of God.


evang thomas 7 years ago

i am so glad that i read all of your comments about woman pastors or preachers, exspecially pastor walts speech, about when men miss the mark. god will give it to the wife, or someone else, welll that's what i am going thru, right now, my husband were the pastor, but he started the church, but i had the vision, so our ministry shut down, now we are about to start our ministry again, and people keeps telling him hes the pastor but, hes not doing anything to build the church i am doing all the work to push this ministry, he keeps telling me to be the pastor, but i fill he is trying to run from his calling, some people are prophecying that i am really the pastor , but i know that god is not the aurthor of confussion, but a god of peace and understanding, somebody please help me with this calling, is god calling me .


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

I'm going to speak boldly here, but I feel if God is calling you to preach, then you should be obedient to do so!  I have a hub called Liberty for Women in Christ that I trust will be helpful to you.  Don't stifle what the Lord is given you.  Kay Arthur preaches with the blessing of her husband. Your husband may be better at administrations, but remember Moses.  He stuttered and God allowed Aaron to speak for him (this isn't the male/female point, but rather that you BOTH are called to ONE ministry).  If you are the voice, use your voice.  If he is the administrator, he will administrate, but TOGETHER you will serve the Lord!  Amen!!


evang thomas 7 years ago

thank you for that revelation I have been puzzled with this for sometime, i will let ypu know along the way how the ministry is doing. please pray for us, the name that gad gave me for our ministry is holy ghost revival center for all people, we went to look at a building pray for our building, and we need equipment and chairs, so please pray for the favor of god on our life, that god will supply every need. we have about 40 people so far that's with the vision. of the ministry. thank you so much I have been so released.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

If the Lord builds the house, He will provide through His saints. Believe and receive, in Jesus' Name!


evang thomas  7 years ago

yes he does, because if you look around at most churches what do you see, woman and children, that's packing out the churches, where are all the men, so yes god calls woman to preach, because so many men have been slack in there calling, also not treating there wives right at home, so stand up woman, for god, because we are who and what god say we are, no matter what man may say, this is for all non believers of woman preachers. this is your season, woman of god, god is doing a shift in the body of christ, and who ever is not with the shift of god, will be shifted out of the body, so hold on to to your calling, that little voice that have you saying I don,t know yet, or I,m not ready yet, that's when he,s calling you right there, all you have to do is open your mouth and god will speak for you, don,t be afraid of the enemy, he better be afraid of you, so go ahead step out and be counted, you are in the number, god bless you.


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

Thank you Friend, I have been blessed.


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

Carrie, are you out there my friend, I read your comment, thanks


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

When Jesus calls, we listen and obey. Bless the Lord, oh my soul, and all that is within me bless His holy Name!


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

Evang thomas, contact me , I would like to communicate with you.


SirDent 7 years ago

God calls whom he will. One of the best preachers I ever heard was a woman from North Carolina. Not sure of her age but she was saved at the age of 17. Never married and most likely never known by a man at all. She is probably in her 70s right now.


evang Thomas 7 years ago

Hi, albert if you want email me at revivalcenter1@aol.com you are all welcome, I need all the training that I can get, I am new in ministry so take all mistakes for love, I have been asking god to equipt me for the journey, that I am about to take, along with all the haters, that wants me to sit up under them forever, I know in order to be a good leader you must be a great follower, and that means a great servant, And that I was, for many years, aleast 40 years of my life, i have been singing for everyone, so this is my season to elevate to the next level of my ministry, so think you all for your great comments. love mrs evang thomas.


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lionswhelp 7 years ago

Albert49,

You have the right picture, stick with it. The big problem with 1Timothy 2:11-15 is that it is an "hapox verse" it is only mentioned once and is not repeated because Paul and Timothy were dealing with a local problem in Ephesus and Corinth. Even men were taught to remain quiet and listen.

Some ministers seem to try to use these verses as doctrine to keep women out of Christ's ministry. But this will not work because Christ's ministry is a priesthood of all believers, 1 Peter 2:4-10. Besides to try and use these verses as doctrine without the investigation of what was going on at that time iin the Greek culture is a very shallow type of investigation on this matter. I would suggest getting a hold of Catherine and Richard Kroeger' book "I Suffer Not A Women," Rethinking 1 Timothy 2:11-15, In Light of Ancient Evidence." These two Christians scholars took the time to investigate  the Greek manuscripts in Greece and everything they could find from their archealogical studies on Greek culture. This is a great book and I have learned so much from it. Also Dr. Gilbert Bilezekian has several books in which he discusses 1 Timothy 2:11-15. Try browsing Christians For Biblical Equality's Web page @ www.cbeinternational.org  , you may find more on this subject.

The Lionswhelp


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lionswhelp 7 years ago

Oh, I forgot about one more apostle annoited by Jesus. Though there were twelve original apostles to twelve Tribes of Israel there were really thirteen Tribes of Israel. Jacob claimed two additional sons of Joseph as his own to take the place of Joseph, Genesis 48:13-22. Manasseh became the Thirteenth Tribe.

Mary Magdalene was made an apostle by Jesus in John 20:17. Some may overlook this not so small revelation by Jesus. Jesus waited deliberately to make Himself known to Mary first. Mary was known as the apostle to the apostles in the early new testament Church. She no doubt will fulfill the role as the apostle for the thirteenth Tribe when Jesus returns.

It is also interesting to note that in revelation 7:4-8 there are only twelve Tribes mentioned here. What happened to Dan which has been left out. There is another prophesy made by Jacob about this Tribe in Genesis 49:16-18. It is known that Dan was known as the pioneer Tribe and was able to escape the Assyrian captivity. Dan usually was out wandering around leaving a trail of its where-abouts. Notice what it says in verse 16 > Dan shall judge his people as a Tribe of Israel. This is strange because we know Dan was a legitimate tribe of Israel. It also says of Dan: I have waited for they salvation, O Lord. This seems very strange since the Church mentioned in Revelation 12 will also be waiting for Christ return, Revelation 22:17. This is very interesting, that maybe this Church is a type of Tribe of Dan. Maybe Mary Magdalene will be over this Church which will be like a Tribe of Israel, Dan.

The Lionswhelp


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

If anyone's interested, I have posted a hub called "Liberty for Women in Christ" that is very enlightening! We are renewed and in the Lord, there is no distinction and neither male nor female is independent of each other any longer. Amen!


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Gloria Cowdery 7 years ago from Canada

Thank you for your article! It brings both clarity and encouragement to me. I am new on HubPages, and have always struggled to 'know my place' when it comes to ministry. I am an ordained minister and being a woman, I've felt the 'sting' of rejection from others who've felt I have no place in a ministry position.

Many Thanks,

Rev. Gloria Cowdery


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

Im glad my article was helpful, A great person once said that if a man fall short in service then God will appoint a Woman.


MISSIONARY FOR MY LORD 7 years ago

WOMEN PLACE IS TO STAND BY HER HUSBAND( HELPMATE) NOT IN FRONT OF HIM....GOD CALLS MEN TO TEACH HIS WORDS...MAN IS THE HEAD OF HIS HOUSEHOLD, SO THEREFORE GOD WILL NOT CHANGE AND LET THE WOMAN TO BE HER HUSBAND HEAD IN CHURCH...THEN WHEN THEY GET HOME HE IS THE HEAD....NO WAY..WHEN SHE ROSE AND HE SPOKE TO WOMEN AND TOLD THEM TO TELL MY DISCIPLES TO MEET ME GALILEE...WHICH ARE ALL MEN...AND TOLD THEM TO GO AND PREACH AND TEACH HIS WORDS...NOW WHY DIDN'T HE TELL THESE WOMEN...FOR EXAMPLE: YOUR WOMAN PASTOR IS PREACHING AND PREGNANT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE GO INTO LABOR...SHE HAS TO CUT THE SERMON SHORT...THINK ABOUT MEN DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT...SO WOMEN LET US STAY IN OUR PLACES....JUST MISSIONARY FOR THE LORD....MATTHEWS 28:19 TELLS ABOUT THE 12 DICIPLES


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twill4jc 7 years ago

Yes He does, good hub


ftgfmom 7 years ago

I loved this hub and all the comments. I just finished a hub call Communion and what happens when you do what God says. I was a little anxious to see what kind of response I got because I am a woman and I lead communion.

I was already prepared with an answer. Here's my answer. According to the state of North Carolina,

"man's law" I am an ordained minister. So yes according to mans law I can lead communion and preach the gospel.

This is the answer that I live by though. Jesus spoke to my heart in this verse: John 15: 16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give you.

Jesus chose me and he ordained me. Regardless of what anyone else says. I have to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling. I know what God told me.


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

fgtfmom, how are you, i,m glad you liked my hub, go and bring forth much fruit.


Dena  7 years ago

The Missionary for my Lord I pray for you. Jesus sent

Mary Magdalene Jesus

commissioned her, a woman, to teach the male apostles the basic tenet of the Christian faith: that he had risen from the dead. so in saying that she should allow the Holy spirt open your mind to understand what you can I see,are want to see.


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cdacoffee 7 years ago from Idaho

Something else interesting: The woman at the well was the first person in the NT that went out and preached that the messiah had come...

She got a revelation at that well and got really exticted about it...


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DeBorrah K. Ogans 7 years ago

Albert49

This is a wonderful hub. Yes the Lord does certainly call us to preach. Quite often many confuse the ability to preach with a style of delivery, or if one can whoop or how one sounds rather than the actual proclaiming of God's Word.

In the truest sense it was a woman Mary that carried the Word physically for nine (9) months. It was the Samaritan woman who ran saying "Come see a man." It was Phoebe who carried the Book of Romans. It was the women who ran and told the disciples that Jesus had Arose and those mentioned earlier as well...

God is not a respecter of persons and He can use whomever He chooses. As you say "The Bible is clear." I have come to realize that many will go to great length to prove otherwise. However this has also made me draw that much closer to the Lord and go deeper in HIS WORD. It is so true the TRUTH really does set you FREE!

I am Thankful for a Wonderful God fearing husband we together are Co Ministers as we labor together in the Lord's vineyard. "Ministry goes beyond the walls"

Thank you again

Blessings


mary 7 years ago

You know I have read all these postings today, and are really astounded by the answers. So many time men want to say i am the head. Women want to say men are the head and we need to stay in our place. Can somebody tell me who are any of you to tell me or anybody else what place GOD has called me to!!!!!!!!!!!! Men want to be the head of so many things and livin like hell!!! women have been taught for so long that men are the head and you must follow, that until it has created a mass confusion on who goes where! I read the bible a good bit and as a women who has been saved and fighting for my salvation for several years now that i have learned that God will use who he pleases, NOT who we please. you know as a matter of fact all of you who feel like women are not suppost to preach why don't you go to god to get your answer. The bottom line is this, GOd has called everyone to different places to do different things i would hate to loose out on a word from God because of a crazy old fable. men if you want to be the head of something get your act together be the one God has called you to be answer to God as the bible has told you to do. and remember if you refuse god will callthe one who is submissive and obideint, man or Woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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albert49 7 years ago from ms Author

Thanks for the comment Mary, your insight is good. become my friend on facebook and lets communicate.


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shermancox 6 years ago from Nashville, TN USA

This is always an interesting question and I thank you for your presentation. In the end, woman have always "preached."

Folks want to say that they weren't "priests" and that is true, but they were always allowed to be "prophets" and show me a prophet who doesn't preach and I will show you a prophet that ain't doing her or his job.

And yes the Bible is Clear...To my sistas I say Go head on and preach like God told you to...


debradoo 6 years ago

So what is the job of the devil? To keep God's Word from being understood, heard, or spread. And what does this false doctrine of 'women are not supposed to preach' do? It oppresses and suppresses and depresses the Word of God. 'Nough said.

Thanks Albert, for being a man that hears and obeys God.


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LATIESHA30 6 years ago from JACKSONVILLE, FL

THIS QUESTION YOU HAVE YOU HAVE THE ANSWER. GOD SAID TO MINISTER TO EACH OTHER, SO, THAT BEING SAID MAN OR WOMAN. JUS BELIEVE IN GOD KNOW THAT ANY THING GOD MADE IS GOOD. SO, IF YOU HAVE A WOMAN THAT IS A PREACHER, BLESS HER AND CONTINUE TO RECIVE. LET'S NOT QUESTION GOD FOR THE CALLING , BUT THANK HIM FOR THE BLESSING THAT A SITER OF OUR RELIGIOUS BAGRUN IS THERE TO MINISTER TO US. WE ARENT ALL MINISTERS, AND THAT WE KNOW WE ARE TO BE HUMBLE SERVANTS. FOR OUR UNDERSTANDING WEHAVE TTERPRET THINGS SHAT WUNDERSTAN, AND THAT'S WHY WE GO TO BIBLE STUDIES, AND THOSE OF US WHO ATTEND WORKSHOPS, TO LEARN, AND LISTEN. I HASTOR SAY THINGS THAT ARENT O THE BIBLE TOO. LIKE SAMITANS>> FREVER IN A DAY IWAS TOLD "GOODSAMRITANS", UNTILN IWENT TO BIBLE STUDY, ANDREAD FOR MYSELF WERE DIRTY , NASTY PEOPLE..JUST KEEP READING,YOU SEEM VERY INTELLEGENT,AND ARE RESPECTFUL. YOU JUST KEEP YOUR HEAD IN GOD'S WORD, AND I WILL DO THE SAME.BE BLESSED..THANK YOU


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Lovly2008 6 years ago from Connecticut

Actually the reason there is so much confusion in the church today is because God so loved us that he left a book that makes very little sense. We are expected to live by a book that we cant even understand. I don't understand.

If I were going to leave my children alone and only left a book to relay to them what I wanted from them in life, I'd certainly make it clear not confusing. Maybe all we needed to understand was the words of christ. The rest is just some former jews who had a hard time adjusting to a religion that was about put to rest.


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Lovly2008 6 years ago from Connecticut

"According to Paul, women must be learners, and are not allowed to be public teachers in the church; for teaching is an office of authority, and the woman must not usurp authority over the man, but is to be in silence. But, notwithstanding this prohibition, good women may and ought to teach their children at home the principles of religion."

Matthew Henry

I bet these female preachers would probably have Paul stoned to death by now. And Matthew Henry right along with him.


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albert49 6 years ago from ms Author

You're a wild guy Lovly2008.


sxymcrystal 6 years ago

God has order...how can a woman counsel a man? God can use women in church to minister and witness for his glory..but he didn't ordain a woman to b the head..The man is the Head as "God is the head of the church...false prophets will state that it is ok for woman to b the head...God didn't ordain it...those who do need to repent


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joque 6 years ago

Well, albert49, you brought up a loaded subject.All I have to say is, I think God probably wants men to be the leaders in the world, but we fall so short on our responsibilities. And, when we do fall short, I don't think God is standing around telling women, you better not tell people about Jesus. If he can use a donkey to speak for Him, He can certainly use a woman. But, that's just my opinion.


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albert49 6 years ago from ms Author

joque you are a man with wohm I can agree, thanks for the comment.


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Marcus D Mays 6 years ago from maysdada@yahoo.com

Did Jesus not say that the stone that the builder rejected became the head corner. In this saying if men do not tell it the way it should be told then a woman will and should step up. Most of these men that say that a woman should not preach are not thinking clearly, who taught them to read in order for them to be able to preach. At one point in their early teaching stages like elementary, jr. high, and high school they were taught by a woman. Same thing but different subject. Thanks for the HUB


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albert49 6 years ago from ms Author

Thanks for the comment Marcus! welcome to thr ranks of those who know the truth.


called2glory 6 years ago

If you are of the world I can clearly understand why you sound so lost. In the 14th chapter of Job, God ask the question who has given him counsel. What mortal can tell the Creator who he can or can't use in what ever position HE chooses. In the old Testament the young king Joshia asked for someone who has understanding to read explain the scriptures to him. There was no man but a woman who could understand the scriptures that explained the words to him. Upon hearing the repented and cleanse the temple to restore worship. In the book of Judges not only was Deborah a judge which meant a rule but also a profit meaning preacher in fact Deborah was the pastor. In the book of the kings you find that Hulda was a head teacher of the school of profits ( she was Isaiah wife). In the new testament Paul speaks of several women who were Apostles and pastors for church was kept in their house.

More concern should be given to reaching lost souls than doing the enemy's job of keeping of division and confusion in the body of Christ. If I were a thirsting soul which at one time I was. W ether the hand was male or female if it gave me the water of life to drink which saved my soul.


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drpastorcarlotta 6 years ago from BREAKOUT MINISTRIES, INC. KC

Hello albert49! My thoughts, God called me and I attended the wedding! So therefore, I WAS BLESSED! I love being a Pastor/Dr. GREAT Topic! When you get a chance, come visit me. Much love!!!


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Jisblessed 6 years ago

The women in Romans 16:7 were eminent for knowledge and gifts and graces which made them famous among the Apostles. Now one could be lead to believe that this statement was saying they are Apostles if you wanted to believe women were called to be. It said among the Apostles; not were. The scripture Gal. 3:28 that says we're no more Jew nor Greek; bond nor free and neither male or female for ye are all one in Christ Jesus, was talking about receiving the Holy Ghost. Because the Holy Ghost knows no gender,race, creed or color and knows no boundries. Everybody that accept Jesus are then classified as being Abraham' seed. Let's not take scripture out of context. It changes the meaning and causes us to error. Read the verses before it and after it. Get a commentary. It's talking about the liberty we have in Christ. The people was going through a lot of things. Some believed women was more surperior than men of the pagans that joined the church. So the scripture in question was to clear up beliefs like that one. I don't think it was dealing with whether or not women was called to be Apostle, Prophet, Pastor, Evangelis, or Teacher. The Holy Ghost is the preacher and it's in anyone and everyone that has it. And will speak or preach as God wills. But that has nothing to do with the order of God. It's relates to the function of God. So some women would get mislead with the thought God called me to be one of the fivefold ministries because of the anointing and we can do some things as well as any man. My question is Did God take back the curse of man being head of the woman as long as she lives after the death of Christ? I don't think so, unless the Apostle Paul was lying. Anyone knowing scripture that would prove otherwise, I'd be happy to read it, to know it. I believe that women are acting under a permissive will of God and not absolute will of God when taking these offices. Like Moses with divorce. Matthew 19:7,8,9. God never intended for divorce but because of the hardness of men's heart, God permitted it because Moses insituted it. Therefore, being a permissive will of God. That is my belief and if I was to take one of those offices it would be under the permissive will of God because of the Holy Ghost and giftings. And the other scripture I can relate to this is where the disciples said to Jesus, they're casting out devils and they do not follow us and Jesus said leave them alone, if they are not against us; then they must be for us. I can't remember where it is right now. Someone help me find that, please! I like to show where I'm coming from. Prove all things.This is a permissive will I'm talking with this scripture. But that's my belief about women in ministry. Would I pastor if felt lead to do so?...Yes, I would. Yes, great topic!


Chief Apathetic 6 years ago

If I remember correctly Paul said if a person was in Christ they were neither male or female. And yet he then goes on to make "Rules" for both men & women. If they are in Christ & neither male nor female then there shouldn't be separate "Rules" for both men & women. So if Paul is correct that there isn't any male or female of a person in Christ then what are they except, nothing.

The Word is Love


TinctureOfDouglas 6 years ago

Nice to find some thought-fuelled individuals ha ha, it's easy to become a tad apathetic at times.

I highly doubt that God takes our bodies into account with regards to... most things. God sees within yeah? Our souls are not bound to our genitalia - preaching connects the invisible and we have to disregard the physical.

"A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety." 1Tim 2:11-15

I disagree with the above. I can't see where this comes from, God inspired? I don't think so. Personally, I read the Bible contextually and historically, metaphorically in parts.

No matter how it's been interpreted/perverted - God has remained the same, amen x


Brandon Smith 6 years ago

I completely disagree with your argument... true it was beautifully articulated but I must highlight a fatal flaw in the studying of most of God people today. You can't simply take pieces of the scripture and ignore the rest. For example... Miriam in your Exodus example "prophetess" sister of Moses did not lead the people as a pastor.... in fact the very next verse starts with "And Moses lead the people"... Woman can hear from God and go tell it but is not call in a leadership position over men...

One more... Miriam and Aaron complaining against Moses (the leader)... God called them to the tabernacle and reminded them that while God may have given them dreams and visions there position is never to be confused with Moses' position as the leader... He told them that he deals with Moses "face to face"... sealing Moses as the chosen leader...

One last scripture... 1 Tim. 2:12 I woman can not have authority over a man...

God Bless!


Jimmy Merchant 6 years ago

I believe that God created women to and want them to serve in the church and at home, but some of them act as if they own their man and can tell you what to do an sometimes force you into doing it.How do you defind women like that.


April 6 years ago

I'm so glad I found this webpage. I never understood why Paul said women weren't supposed to preach or lead in the church when I can see so clearly that my preacher, who is a woman, has been called by God. In the three years that I have known her, I have seen the Lord change countless lives through her. You only need a few minutes with her to see the anointing she has on her life. She is more dedicated to serving God & to our church than anyone I've ever seen. I have acutally prayed for the Lord to give me some clarification on the subject. I believe my prayer has been answered:)


fascinatedheart 6 years ago

Here is something I stumbled across by Dr. Daniel Crabtree, associate professor at Central Bible College that examines 1 Timothy 2:8-15 closely. From his doctoral project, “Let Them Preach: A Class on Women in Ministry,” copyright 2006. I think it is well written, comprehensive, and clear in helping us truly understand what Paul was communicating and to whom. Enjoy.

First Timothy 2:8-15 is often used as the foundational biblical argument of those who deny women the right to teach or exercise authority over a man. Since this passage is the only place in the New Testament that explicitly addresses the issue of women not being permitted to teach, it is necessary to argue in some detail why the restriction on women teaching in this passage applies only to the situation at Ephesus and not to women universally.

Paul’s purpose in writing Timothy was to encourage Timothy to confront the false teachers who had infiltrated the church at Ephesus (1 Timothy 1:3). The heresy created a chaotic situation. Some of the men argued when they should have been praying (1 Timothy 2:8). Some of the women dressed immodestly and ostentatiously displayed their wealth (1 Timothy 2:9). Paul planned to pay a personal visit to Ephesus in the immediate future to deal with the developing crisis (1 Timothy 2:14). However, in the event that his arrival at Ephesus was delayed, Paul wanted Timothy to take immediate and firm action. Paul’s instructions to Timothy were written to restore order so, “you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household” (1 Timothy 3:15).

What was the nature of the false teaching that concerned Paul? And how much can we know about this false teaching? The answers to these questions have left scholars divided. Some argue that the false teaching was radical and included the belief that Eve was created first. 1 Paul’s prohibition against “a woman teaching” was directed toward those women infected by this false teaching. Paul refers to Adam being “formed first” (1 Timothy 2:13) to deny the false assertion of Eve’s priority. However, one view cautions against this approach because, “Paul tells us remarkable little about the specifics of this false teaching, presumably because he knows Timothy is well acquainted with the problem.” 2 Instead, this false teaching was an “over-realized eschatology” by denying a physical resurrection, and claiming that a “spiritual” resurrection had already happened (2 Timothy 2:18). This view seems to parallel the situation at Corinth where women had disregarded their appropriate roles in response to an “over-realized eschatology” in which marriage was downgraded to a less spiritual state (1 Corinthians 11:1-16). 3 In such a state, the absence of marriage and the responsibility of child rearing would have “liberated” some of the Ephesian women from traditional family responsibilities.

Paul, however, wants to uphold the status of marriage, and counsels the younger “liberated” widows who have too much idle time to settle down, marry, and raise children (1 Timothy 5:11-15). This does not mean that Paul thought this was the only profitable use of women’s time. In other places, Paul speaks with high praise of women ministers (Romans 16:1,2,7; Philippians 4:2,3). Of particular interest is the teaching ministry of Priscilla, who, while at Ephesus (the city where Timothy pastored), instructed Apollos in “the way of God more adequately” (Acts 18:24-26). But Paul is forced to fight on two fronts. He disagrees with those who seek to limit a woman’s role in the church (Galatians 3:28, 1 Corinthians 14:33-36), and at the same time he wants to uphold the sanctity and importance of a woman’s role in marriage and family (1 Timothy 4:3; 5:11-15).

Verse 15 is vital in understanding this whole passage because it presents Paul’s conclusion where he tells the women what he wants them to do. 4 If we are uncertain of what Paul meant in this verse, how can we be certain we have correctly interpreted the entire passage? What does Paul mean by women being “saved through childbearing?”

One interpretation of verse 15 takes into consideration the situation at Ephesus. 5 Paul sent Timothy to Ephesus to deal with the false teachers (1 Timothy 1:3). The false teachers had seduced and deceived “weak-willed women” who were “always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth” (2 Timothy 3:6,7). Some of these women began spreading the false teaching from house church to house church. The evidence for this is found in 1Timothy 5:13 where women are “going about from house to house ... saying things they ought not to.” The assumption is that the church met in houses, which is made more probable by Paul’s statement concerning how he taught “from house to house” while at Ephesus (Acts 20:20). Paul describes the false teaching at Ephesus as including “old wives tales” (1 Timothy 4:7), something Paul took seriously enough to feel that it posed a threat to the congregation. The seriousness of the women’s error is demonstrated by the fact that some of them had “already turned away to follow Satan” (1 Timothy 5:15). If the “gossiping” the women did from house to house was only saucy tidbits, then it is unlikely that Paul would have declared that some of them had “already turned away to follow Satan.” His condemnation indicates that false teaching must have been involved. Paul’s solution to the problem is that the women should settle down, get married, have children, and manage their homes in order “to give the enemy no opportunity for slander” (1 Timothy 5:14). 6 This is the same advice he gives to women in 1 Timothy 2:15 when he tells them they will be “saved through childbearing.” Thus, this very difficult verse begins to make sense only when it is interpreted in light of the situation at Ephesus. Paul’s conclusion to the passage on women (1 Timothy 2:9-15) is advice given to a particular group of women at Ephesus. If this is true of his conclusion, then it seems reasonable that the rest of the passage is also directed toward the same group of Ephesian women.

When Paul places restrictions on women in 1 Timothy 2:11,12, he has in mind these women spreading false teaching. It is them he admonishes to “learn in quietness and full submission” and does not permit to teach or “to have authority over a man” (1 Timothy 2:11,12). What is often overlooked is his command that “a woman should learn” (1 Timothy 2:11) is in the imperative in the Greek. In fact, this is the only imperative in the entire passage. 7 Many think Paul is commanding women not to teach, but instead he is specifically commanding them to learn. This is of critical importance because learning is the antidote to the disease of heresy. Paul is interested in “saving” the women, a concern that is demonstrated in his treatment of women throughout 1 Timothy.

While these women are learning, they are not to teach or usurp authority. When Paul speaks of not allowing women to teach, he uses the present tense which could be translated, “I am presently permitting no woman to teach”. 8 The word Paul uses for “authority” is authentein, and it isused only in this New Testament passage. This makes arriving at a biblical definition of the word somewhat problematic. One must look to secular sources in an attempt to ascertain its precise meaning. However, this is complicated by its infrequent use in secular Greek literature .9 One interpretation of the word is “murder” or “to declare oneself the author or source of anything”. 10 Another view notes that this interpretation is from the patristic period and instead suggests that authentein originally carried a negative connotation of “usurp” or “domineer” and only later came to mean “authority.” Since the earlier meaning more closely corresponds to the time period of the writing of 1 and 2 Timothy, the best translation for authentein is “to domineer.” 11

Complementarians argue that Paul is enunciating a universal principle when he does not allow women to teach or have authority because of his reference to Adam and Eve (1 Timothy 2:13,14). The argument is that since Paul’s prohibitions are grounded in creation, the prohibitions must be univers


cb 6 years ago

in response to lovly 2008 God did not only leave us a book, He left us a Living Word. He also left us the Holy Spirit which leads and comforts us. He loves us and we are never alone.


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brotheryochanan 6 years ago from BC, canada

First ya gotta wonder who gets called to preach?

Wandering around youtube i see a lot of so called preachers, preaching. Visiting every church in my town (17) I notice a lot of 1/2 doctrines and false doctrines being taught and some doctrines not being taught at all.

So who gets to preach? or who gets to teach for that matter?

God requires people be not full of themselves, not prone to greediness, nor involved in sinful activity (ministries soon get shut down after knowledge of sinful activity gets out... I guess god gives them time to repent) Pride, jealousy and other human traits must go, but above all, love, gods love must be prevalent. This doesn't mean we just preach gods love, but every message, even the harsh ones must be given in love and with love. I'm sure gods sermons would touch all bases of fact, admonishment and reproof. If we look in revelations chapter 1 as god is speaking to the churches, we see that god is not timid to give harsh reproof or to admonish.

I gotta funny feeling out of all the preachers in the world, 10% are right on track, 20% are in preparation, and the rest are just sh*t.

A thing that i know about god, is that he gives preachership to people who don't really want it, as a matter of fact, if you're just humbly goin along saying "i don't care what you give me, i don't really want anything from you god". LOOK OUT.. you're gonna be an apostle, lol.


lynsayanne 6 years ago

this is said in love,

some of you need to take the bible more seriously.

the letter to timothy was revealed to paul by God, making it Gods will that there is order in the church as there is order in the home and in the Godhead.

this means that women should submit to man and not preach. it is true that God loves us all equally but he has ordained the man to be at the head, and who are we to argue with what God wants?


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Captain Jimmy 6 years ago from WV

Women, Though they are important are not to preach, God clearly has qualifications for those men he calls to preach and their wives.

1 Timothy 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

1 Timothy 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

1 Timothy 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)

1 Timothy 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.

1 Timothy 3:8 Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;

1 Timothy 3:9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.

1 Timothy 3:10 And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.

1 Timothy 3:11 Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

1 Timothy 3:12 Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

1 Timothy 3:13 For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

1 Timothy 3:14 These things write I unto thee, hoping to come unto thee shortly:

1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.


Granville 6 years ago

Thank you very much Captain Jimmy

This is what God want and it does not come from men or from Paul, but from God Himself:

1 Corinth 14 - 40

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

Now every single church at that time received the truth from the Apostles and no other church was left out.All of them understand why their women should be silent in the churches.

Somehow the church at Corinth did things not as God commanded and needed to be corrected.

The Gospel did not come from that church, it came to that church and some wanted to pervert it.

In verse 37 Paul says that if every man thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual let him acknowledge that the things he writes unto them is the commandments of the Lord

and in this verse : 38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant

So who are we to do as we please in contrast to what God wants?

So some people says that God wants them to be preachers/teachers in a church, even that God told them to be such.

My Question is why should The Lord Jesus Christ gave Paul such a commandment and then go around and undo what He has said and ordained.

In the Bible you don't see God speaking to people saying

He/She

He only says He right through scripture, and I don't mean any disrespect, but we should study our Bible more carefully and don`t use eisegesis, rather exegesis, and also be like the Bereans who studied what Paul said to see if it was true and then conform our lives accordingly.

I also see that a lot of woman does not want to except what God`s will for their lives is, and they don't see satan at work as well.

Well believe me he does present himself as an angel of light as well so many people will follow what he says without discerning wether it comes from God or not.

We just simply follow satan, it seems that God`s Word is not enough anymore, well I could understand this seeing that many of the Christians are living self indulgent lives, therefor our sight is blinded by it.

Now I would like to Ask one more thing to all Women who usurp authority in church, because they are doing it.

The question is can any of you make a teaching sermon or preach on this verses:

1 Corinthians 14:34 and

1 Timothy 3:2 and

1 Timothy 3:8 - 11

Can some of the Ladies please make a sermon or teaching out of it, with a clear conscience that is?

I don't think so, unless you twist scripture and also go look for proof texts in the Bible disregarding what God tell us in th New testament.


Malachi 6 years ago

No...it's pretty simple. What we call a preacher the bible refers to as overseer (1 Timothy 3:1-8, Titus 1:7). In both verses it is clear that it is a man, and the first one states that 'he' must have one 'wife'. So sorry that kinda rules out women preaching in church.

And since the term church refers to the body of Christ, any time that two or more are gathered for the purpose of learning about the word of God, that's church. The disciples are the church not the buildings we go to.

Now the Bible doesn't say anything about woman teaching each other, or having private/public bible studies. However, this is always most successful if the woman is a wife of a well versused husband who makes sure to teach her properly in the word. And if the husband is available to make sure that nothing false is taught.

[quote]In Romans 16:7 Paul greets 2 fellow apostles that he refers to in high regards , one was Andronicus and the other was Junia which was a woman. translators of the bible over a period of time changed the name Junia to Junias making the name appear masculine. [/quote]

Now here you are making an incorrect assumption. Junias was simply considered the most correctly translated spelling, however, from the context it was believed to be understood that this was a husband and wife, not two independants but and who unity. And appearently very good together. Makes me think of a missionary who takes his wife with him.

Elders are supposed to be men, Overseers (pastors) are supposed to be men, Deacons are supposed to be men. Read the Word of God and don't lie to yourselves any of you. now then does that mean that the wives of these men can be helpful in the ministry? No, but it does mean that their husbands should according to the Word of God be the only ones doing the teaching, when the church (body of disciples) is gathered, regardless of location.

And yes, women will get upset when told to do right, especially if its USA, because of freedom of speech rights and such nonsense, but the USA's laws are not above God's and the USA will passaway one day and some other thing will rise.

So while you still have the breath of life in you ladies, learn to obey the Lord first, then do everything the Word of God commands, and if you do then you are truly Christs disciples. Otherwise, your not.

Women aren't designed to lead men, that's not what God made you for. You were made as companions, not to complete us but from us. Eve was quite literally part of Adam. And she was not the part meant to govern the body...she was originally a rib.

Husbands are supposed to lead. If yours isn't that doesn't mean you take the lead, instead you should pray on his behalf that God will lead him, so your husband can learn to lead.

Oh and cause I know there is some crafty lady out there gonna pop this question. "What if I'm not married?"

Well, then guess what you still are to submit to your father then. He is supposed to lead you spiritually till you are married, if that happens. So you say, "What if I don't live in the same house with my dad? What if I'm an adult and on my own?" Your dad is still your spiritual leader for the family till you get married, so follow him until God provides you someone else to follow.


donald 6 years ago

i read most of these Q and A.and me personally,when i was coming up my grandmother[may she rest in peace]told me everything you see wrote in red ink in the bible is what GOD saided-out of his own mouth,.so i am going to leave it at that.even to the last words-revelations[surely,i come quickly].be careful what you add or take away from GOD,s words.


a060682l@yahoo.com 6 years ago

This subject matter is very touchy, but we must look to the scriptures. In the bible Deborah is called a prophetess. The question is what is a prophet, and can a women be a prophet? From my understanding the answer is no. Why? Prophets are sent ones just as Apostles are. All throughout the bible God sends prophets to speak on his behalf. That is part of a prophets job. An apostle is a prophet sent with miraculous powers to confirm the Kingdom of God. Notice this, there was no prophet who did miracles. The bible talks about how John did no miracles. We know that Isaih did no miracles, as well as Samuel,Ezekiel,Jonah,Abraham, and etc. Apostles where the only prophets who did miracles. The old testament prophets who did miracles where apostles, but the word apostle was not instituted until the new testament. Apostle is a greek word,and the old testament was written in Hebrew. You will not find anywhere in the bible where God spoke to a women to be a direct representative of heaven. Check this out, they went to Deborah to hear Gods word. God used her, but the key word is Deborah was never sent. She wasn't even sent to deliver Gods people. Deborah took matters into her own hands. Phillip the evangilist had four daughters who were virgins that prophesied. While the apostle paul stayed with phillip, God used a prophet named agabus to prophesy to him. Throughout the book of Judges God raises up men of God to deliver his people. There isn't one occurrence in the bible where God speaks to a women to go into minstry. I'm sorry my brothers and sisters, but its not biblical. Even Isaihs wife who is called a prophetess is used to prophecy to some men who came to her. The key is the men came to her, God never sent her. She had the gift to prophesy, but she was not a prophet. John the baptist, Isaih, Ezekiel, Jonah, and many of the other prophets were all sent by God. That's the bottom line this is the established order set in stone by God. In the beggining God gave the word to adam and not eve. These are biblical patterns which can not be ignored. There is no evidence of a women prophetess or God confirming her position. Just because she is called a prophetess does not mean she is a prophetess. Why? Because she does not fit those qualifications of a prophetess nor does God confirm it. In the book of titus women are to be teachers to other women. Women are to lead other women, not men. We can see this with Miriam, in Exodus chapter 15 Moses starts out leading worship. Later on in that chapter we see in verse 20 miriam takes the worship leader position, but she and the women don't lead the people. Miriam begins to lead the women in worship. The bible specificly states that she takes a timbrel in her hand and all the women go out after Miriam. The women follow Miriam in worship apart from the congregation.If you get a chance read Exodus chapter 15. If you have any questions or different views in light of this information I would like to hear about it. My email address is my name on this site.


michelle boykins 6 years ago

My name is Michelle...... well this is what I believe what the WORD OF GOD says. First of all we have to look at the time,the place,and what was going on there is no place in the bible where God says that a woman can not be a pastor or even ministry to men. God's word does not come back void nor is He a racist meaning that He just call men to preach His word. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD is upset because a woman becomes a pastor. What is a pastor? what does a pastor do? Pastor is a person who brings forth the word of God, a teacher,a ministry,etc. I have heard one preacher says that he doesn't believe a woman should ministry to a man cause its not her place to do so. That is another man's job it is said. please show that scriptures to me in the bible. what is the difference than a woman giving the word of God than a man? There are some who has posted feels the same way that I do except for a few. I believe that God calls all men, women sons and daughters. He did say that in the last days that He will pour out His spirit on all flesh "ALL FLESH" the word says So if i'm called to pastor His people am i gonna be punished because I was obedient to His call? Yes Jesus is the head of the church as well as man is ahead of his house hold but does a woman try to take the place of her husband in the house? she knows her position in the church as well as in her home. Until we can get beyond women being pastor's or ministry then and only then when we can become as one instead of complaining and rejecting what a woman suppose to do within the church God is not please with our immaturity. I could careless who delievers the word as long as its in line with the word Help us Lord to be more acceptive no matter who you call My friends learn to look beyond the messager and focus on the message cause God alone will do the judging when that time to come. One more thing when you judge another, you think that you define them when really you define yourself. Be Bless and know that He is God.


Jack 6 years ago

Many people change the definition of what is "preaching" to include woman and say "prophesying" IS preaching which is false. The interesting thing is that people say that God "calls" women to "preach" yet we have not a single solitary example of this ANYWHERE in the scripture. When God told moses to choose the 70 NOT ONE woman was called. When Jesus chose the apostles NOT ONE woman was called. The people who quote the scripture about "pouring out my spirit on all flesh" and relate this to god "calling" all (male and female) to preach, has obviously never read the book of acts 2:16-21.


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cdacoffee 6 years ago from Idaho

Seriously? There are still people who believe women are not to preach?

Wasn't the woman at the well the first person to realize that Christ was the Messiah and then went out an preached it to all the people in the city?

Funny, the first evengelist and preacher was a woman....


p.31woman 6 years ago

I always struggled with this question of women pastors i recwently started attending a church where my pastor is a women and she is a powerful preacher i see God annointing over her n at first i felt maybe i shouldn't b here cus of what man say God wouldn't want this to be so but i feel if God has called u to preach who r we to say this n isn't it the bible that says we are no longer bound to the old laws n ordinances n that in Christ there is no longer no Jew or Gentile or male or female we are all one in Christ Jesus

If tha holy spirit has no boundaries n sees no race or gender n etc how do woman decide okay God has given me a message n a calling but I can only give it to woman n children even if its beneficial to the men too? I mean sometimes Christians pick n chose frm tha bible what we want n cause ppl to stray frm the faith cus right now im really confused with how much divisio n separation this topic has brung about n still is in the body of Christ today

aboutr two months ago i felt the Lord calling me to preach at ma church n i prepared the lesson for a month or so n i ffasted before i did the sermon n God really spoke to me n men came up to me after the sermon letting me know how it touched them n they felt the message was for the so wat if i had kept quiet n wasn't obedient to the holy spirit n been afraid n said ok that's not ma place i cant preach in church then Gods word would not have been known.

To all confused young women who has a heart to serve God n feel ur called for ministry i mean go to God u can never be wrong when u go to him with ur questions, Love u all God Bless


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Segun Tewogbola 6 years ago

From the heaven's perspective we are all the same; men and women - see Mark 12:24 - 26


Webb 6 years ago

I saw where Deborah was mentioned. She judged, and yes she was a prophetess. When you look up the Hebrew word for prophet and prophetess they have two different meanings.

Prophet was a foreteller of impending danger to come from not following God's will.

Preaching is a proclamation from God to man through man with a view to persuade. This brings about a conviction.

There were only two preachers in the old testament and they were Noah and Jonah.

Prophetess means a poetess or songwriter.

Most women that were prophetess, were that because the husband was a prophet. Like our Deacons and Deaconness of today.

Let me put in plan English for the one that said they couldn't understand God's Word. First if you can't get an understanding of The Bible, you need to pray for God to move you to a church where you will be taught properly an indepthness of God's word.

Second, the church is a female organism which brings forth children unto God. Two women can't have a baby, that's against God's law.

I have read where many bring up Priscilla, and others in the New Testament. None of them took on a role of preacher, they were deaconness or women working in the ministry.

When Paul says, I suffer the woman not to teach nor usurp authority over the man. God limited her to teaching other women and children. When boys reach thirteen they need a man to teach them in Sunday School and Bible Study and I feel the same way concerning young women. A man can't teach her about her monthly cycle and a woman can't teach him about what's going on with hsi body.

For worship service and adult study the man was placed there for this order.

This is a spiritual war. We don't send a platoon of women out to fight in physical wars, and they are not to be the head of this spiritual war.

Look up your Hebrew and Greek words for preacher/pastor, they are all in the masculine tense.


Edna  5 years ago

I was called to preach by God when I had just begun to believe that just maybe God called women to preach. He called me in such a way that I could not deny it. Women preachers are not in God's permissive will. They are in God's perfect will. God chose them before the foundation of the world just as He chose the men. He didn't say, "Well I'll choose a woman for the place, a man for this place, etc." We are no longer male or female in Christ Jesus. We are deciples trying to serve our Lord in the place and position in the Body that He has chosen for us. Christ's return is fast approaching and God wants to use all of us to get the Word out. When a married woman is called to preach and/or pastor, God will confirm her calling to her husband, as well as to others. One who is called to preach can't help oneself. It's like fire shut up in your bones. When my (male) pastor is preaching, sometimes I know what he will say next. Sometimes I say it with him. The Holy Spirit is wonderful and is not an author of confusion. If you are in Christ Jesus, yielded to Him, the nay sayer would no longer be nay sayers. Why make the devil happy? Egos and pride and envy have to go. I want to apprehend that which I am apprended by. I want to know Christ. I want to preach my Master. Glory to God in the highest. Amen


Keith 5 years ago

Yes woman can preach I go to a Full Gospel Baptist church I hear powerful woman who preach most of them preach better and men.


Brother Richard Birundi 5 years ago

Dear Brothers in Christ,,

Iam Brother Richard from Kenya,i am saved and i love Jesus as my personal savior and Lord,

i am leading a congregation with membership of 217, and i am glad to have accessed your website today which proclaims the work you do for the Lord, i hereby encouraged and blessed to request you to involve me in your work as i work together in building the Kingdom,

God bless you as i hope to hear from you soon,

Together in Christ,

Apostle Richard


lisa1230 5 years ago

Ok this is my two cents,lol....Paul, I think was talking about leading a congregation Sunday after Sunday...Now women like Joyce Meyer and others, I don't see a thing wrong with what they are doing....God will use whomever He may to get His message across to a lost world and a lot of people have been touched by these women...


firelionsv5 5 years ago

in 1timothy people including modern male pastors today are always misquoting the word of god when it clearly states that i suffered not a woman to preach,nor to teach, nor to asurp athority over the man for it was the woman who was first decieved than man. notice the word nor for those of you whose in the back of english classes nor = a negitive stament meaning no or not. people can quote all the scripture they want but it all derives from the roots. if one were to look at the beginning of creation, one will see that when God created human beings he created man first!!!!! and many people seem to forget that. it plus if one were to look and read closely in the genenis one will clearly see that there were no buildings for worship and if one were to look further one would clearly understand that when god made man in his image and created the garden of eden, God gave that man named adam ruling over the land in fact the bible says that god blessed man to have dominion over all the earth to til the ground and subdue it.MAN WERE SUPPOSED TO WORSHIP AND FELLOWSHIP WHITH GOD FOR ALL ETERNITY! IT WAS THEN THAT GOD SAW AFTER CREATING VARIOUS CREATURES THAT ADAM WAS ALL ALONE AND GOD SAID THAT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR MAN TO BE ALONE I WILL MAKE A HELP MEAT FOR HIM HINT THE WORD HELP MEAT SO GOD PUT ADAM IN A DEEP SLEEP AND TOOK ONE OF HIS RIBS, AND FORMED A WOMAN NAMED EVE. ADAM SAID THIS IS BONE OF MY BONE AND FLESH OF MY FLESH! THEREFORE MAY A MAN LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER AND CLEAVE TO HIS WIFE! THE GARDEN OF EDEN WAS A PARADISE GOD CREATED THE GARDEN IN THE WAY IT WAS IN HEAVEN WITH FOUR RIVERS THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL ECT. THE GARDEN OF EDEN WHICH PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WAS THE WORLDS FIRST CHURCH!! FOR THEY WERE CREATED TO WORSHIP AND LIVE IN PARADISE WITH GOD FOREVER!!!! NOW THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE SERPANT WAS MORE SUBTLE IN OTHER WORDS MORE WISE OR INTELLIGENT THAN ANY OTHER CREATURE IN THE GARDEN AND WHEN GOD SPECIFIED NOT TO EAT THE FRUIT OF THE FORBIDDEN TREE THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES!, THAT THE SERPANT BEGAN TO SPEAK TO THE WOMAN AND IT ASKED HER WHAT GOD HAD SAID AND SHE REPEATED IT! WORD FOR WORD AND THE SERPANT TOLD HER IN NO LAMES TERMS THAT IT WAS SOMETHING TO MAKE THEM AS godS. AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT SHE SAW THE FRUIT AND HOW DELICIOUS IT LOOKED AND THAT HOW IT DESIRED TO MAKE HER WISE AND SHE TOOK A BITE AND HER EYES WERE OPENED. SHE GAVE SOME TO ADAM AND THUS THE DOWNFALL OF MAN CAME TO BE!!! GOD GAVE ADAM A MAN!!! RULERSHIP OVER THE GARDEN AND DOMINION OVER THE EARTH! THE GARDEN WAS THE WORLDS FIRST CHURCH!!!! AND IN NO LAMES TERMS ADAM WAS THE FATHER OF CREATION AND THE FIRST PASTOR OF THE WORLD IF YOU NOTICE ADAM NAMED EVERYTHING INCLUDING HIS WIFE IT ISN'T INDICATED THAT SHE KNEW MUCH OF ANYTHING AND IT IS CLEAR THAT A WOMANS EGO AND AMBITION TO BE EQUAL TO A MAN!! WAS KICKING IN EVEN THEN. IF ONE WERE TO READ CLOSELY IN GENESIS ONE CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT EVE WAS ALREADY BY THE FORBIDDEN TREE QUITE BEFORE THE SERPHANT TEMPTED HER IN WAS ALREADY IN HER MIND TO DISOBEY GOD! IT JUST TOOK THE DEVIL AKA THE SERPANT TO BRING IT OUT!!! THEREFORE IT ALSO IS CLEAR THAT IT WAS IN ADAM TO DISOBEY AS WELL BECAUSE HE ATE OF THE FRUIT AS WELL HE TOO WANTED TO DISOBEY GOD IT JUST TOOK EVE TO BRING IT OUT!!! SO THERE'S PROOF THAT WOMAN AREN'T SUPPOSED TO PREACH OR TO TEACH IF YOU NOTICED ALL PREATCHERS AND TEACHERS ARE MEN I LOVE WOMEN DON'T GET ME WRONG AND I'M NOT A MALE SHOVENIST EITHER I BELIEVE STRICTLY IN THE WORD OF GOD!! AND THE BIBLE SAYS NOT TO ADD TO OR TAKE AWAY!!! WOMEN WERE DECIEVED FIRST TO PROOF THEIR WORTH FROM THE BEGINNING!! AND GOD KNEW THIS THAT IS WHY WOMAN GOT THE GREATER PUNISHMENT!!!


Delly 5 years ago

Well i believe that a woman can preach but she cannot be the senior pastor of a church.


a believa 5 years ago

Women are not allowed to preach, they are not to absurb authority over men. Now let's talk about preaching, when I use the word preacher, I am referring to the person at the church who we believe have a certain spiritual connection to God, that person giving the message to the congregation from God should be a MAN, not woman. We are all street level preachers in that we can all testify and do God's work but the one in the pulpit, at the front or whereever in a church setting that's giving the message from God should be a male. Women, especially Black women, have always felt like they got the short end of the life stick. Don't blame men for saying women should not preach, the Bible says it. He wants women silent and they can't even do that right. The Bible says men were created in Gods image, he wants men to be leaders now and even then, he does not contradict himself, my wife said she was called about 2 months ago, I no longer attend the church she does. OH, I am Black.


Jen 5 years ago

This was a heated topic at my house last night. I was a mormon so for me to hear I'm less than a man made me very unhappy. I know that's not what god put women on this planet for. The cultures around the whole world have always had women to be inferior to men. So I really am greatful for women who have had the courage to listen to their maker and his purpose for each them.


gentile 5 years ago

After reading all the discussions about females in ministry speaking for women who are called by god and not man which is good our calling comes from on high god does not make mistakes some males have a problem with females having power over them well you listened to you mother when she said do this and don't do that and still seek her advice today when JESUSdescended back to heaven it says he led captive and he gave some pastors andteachers evangelist and so on to make it short he did not say i will give this to a man or this to a woman we all have to answer to god why we wewr disobedient to his call you cannot answer for me and i cant answer for you a womwn can be in the ministry under a male preacher still under his authority and we get caught up in titles and then think we are god he does the calling and he loves us all we all are a chosen generation a royal priesthood peculiar people we are all equal in the body of christ and we all need each other people get caught up in tradition what daddy did and what momma did we are supposed to be moving on to perfection every believer should be baptized with the holyghost being born again that will speak for itsself and solve alot


SPEEKER 5 years ago

DOES GOD HAVE A GENDER? WHY? DOES GOD NEED A GENDER?

ONLY THE STUPID HUMAN CREATURES OF GOD CONCERN THEMSELVES WITH GENDER, AND SKIN COLOR, AND LIMIT WHAT THESE GROUPS ARE ALLOWED TO DO AND THEN THINK GOD HAS SO INSTRUCTED THEIR IGNORANCE.


JJM 5 years ago

Women are NOT supposed to preach in the church, and for good reason. I would expect women to "take to heart" anything they wanna hear. Women are too compassionate and personal, and are very prone to gossip. They are much more sinful than man. Although today's "norms" in the world do a great job at disguising the truth. Women appear much differently than the Bible portrays them to be!

But don't get the wrong perception. This is not good versus bad. This is simply the nature of man and woman as it was created by God. To say "women have changed" is a LIE or misconception. God hasn't changed and it is pure arrogance for any of us to say "we have changed". We are sinners and we will be till the day we die. Women will always be Eve, and men will always be Adam.

Jesus died on the cross for reason. And it is basically understood "why" by all who follow. Otherwise, without his death we would all be doomed. He knew this. But the basic fundamental "place" in life for each of us still remains. Our nature is the same as before Christ. We MUST carry out our lives the same as before in order to please God. He didn't rewrite his rules just because Jesus sacrificed. Jesus only "bought our ticket to forgiveness". He didn't make it okay for women to start speaking in the church or to begin preaching. We are fools to believe this. The reasons for keeping silent still remain. Women have not changed and will bring the same chaos into the church as it happened in the past. As we see with the chaos of modern society, women have "equalled" themselves as men. It is no coincidence that the world is the way it is today.

To allow women to speak and preach in church is to follow a false God. It has become very apparent that many so-called Christians alter the word to allow themselves to self indulge and "look pretty" for the rest of the world. Women are walking temptation, the way they dress and wear make-up. To preach the word of God with passion is to distort the word of God. We should always simply "relay" his word to others. But not colorize it. The scriptures confirm this well. Women are incapable of such a thing and God knew this.


blk77 5 years ago

first, i would like to share that i'm female and i honor God's word for what it says.Most people do opposite of what his word says don't do(Rev.22;18-19).it doesn't matter what our opinions are about leardership in the churches,it is what God says only.i have learned to accept it,men are only called to headship God's house(num.27;15-17),(1 tim.3;1-5),(1 tim.2;11-15).from what i have read in (rom.12;3-7)paul spoke unto the men about being so swift to gain positions in the Lord well, how is it that women can go on gaining positions they have?paul also tuaght(1 cor.14;33-40)a commandment of God meaning there is order in God's house.if women would accept who they really are and God's purpose and place for us women, God can use us so beautifully in prophesying, leading other women and children even as being a witness of the Lord, as the smaritan woman was after meeting christ at the well(john 4;28-30) not preaching, witnessing.in(prov.31)it teaches women well of being a true Godly woman and also(titus 2;3-5).so, all you women please take heed to God's word ,accept the word as it is and watch God move in your life so great.all men that stand on the gospel of christ that his diciples have taught sound doctrine,(gal.1;6-10) may you all be blessed so great!


derick cachola 4 years ago

hi Bro.

this is just like one of those chicken and egg which comes first thing.... anyway i noticed that you quote verses to support your reason.... and man that's good... anyway have you try finding out who sang that song for the Lord? in one of your quote Exodus 15: 19-21, you assumed it was Mirriam who sang this song.... look at verse 1


swan07 4 years ago

God said it would get like this in the book of revelations... Bottom Line is ..GOD NEVER CALLED OR ORDAINED WOMEN TO PREACH.. The Human Race has done so because they want to do what they feel is right in their eyes not GODs...DNT LET SATAN FOOL U WOMEN..again like he did even..I am a woman of God and have spoken as a good missionary speaker to the church.. Just be good missionary women..n stop with the Titles (i.e. Pastor, Preacher, Prophet, Bishop etc.) EVE fell when she was decieved by the Serpent...remember that!!


Called and Thankful 4 years ago

God called me to preach at the age of 13 and because of Male opinions in the church, I was hesitant and didn't move forward. I served in the church as a SS Teacher, then as a Children's and Youth Leader. Years later, God moved me into a position of Worship Leader. I continued to have visions and dreams. God's call became more and more evident to me and then oneday God gave me a message and allowed me to preach it in a way that words cannot describe. I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was from God. Well, that was almost 10 years ago. I kept serving as a Youth Pastor and Praise and Worship Leader, but God began showing me that I would someday Pastor a church. I didn't see it as a possibility until our Pastor resigned several months ago. The church asked me to serve as Interim. We have increased in number and spirituality. It's nothing I am doing, but everything that God is doing. Ladies, if God has called you, He will open the door and there will be no doubt! Male nor female can speak louder than the voice of God. Trust Him with all of your heart. When He calls, He makes the way. Don't force the doors to open, but wait on Him. He's an "on time God".


Eze Mbakwe 4 years ago

God works in mysterious ways. He can use any channel he wishes. I think gender should not be an issue in the body of Christ. The primary thing is to extend salvation to humanity...man or woman God can use!


Mark Weaver 4 years ago

Carrie, good job, way to go, you're boldly leading people straight to Satan. Albert, you're ridiculous, stop flirting lol. Quit distorting the Scriptures to meet your own desires or reason, that leads to your own destruction 2 Peter 3:16. Women's role in the church = zip it!


Mark Weaver 4 years ago

Oh and I'm sure the terrorists on 9/11 felt "Called" by God to kill a bunch of innocent people. That doesn't mean jack if it's not aligned with Scripture. Submit yourself to the Word, not the Word to your reason.


Charlotte baker 4 years ago

when god saved us he said go into all the nation and preach the gospel. he didn't said only men he said he don't have no respect of persons that's why he said also put of all your getting gets some understanding use God's wisdom when studying the scripture because men's wisdom is foolishness to God


jen 4 years ago

Thankyou Segun, you put it pretty darn close as to what I need to say. Yes, things were fulfilled in the old testament through Jesus, like being "quite in the church." On the other hand, It kind of still holds true today because God the FATHER, and JESUS THE SON, then MAN, then WOMAN. So there is an order to things and authority. Look that up in the beginning of genisis. There is a difference between teaching to children, or talking with someone one on one if you are a woman, and full blown taking the authority of the man and preaching. Which does not belong to the woman. There is an order to the way God the Father created things for HIS PURPOSE. Woman was taken from Mans rib, not the other way around. Yes, in Jesus, we are equal, but we still have different roles. As far as Heavenly Father giving us a book that is confusing, like someone commented earlier, I do not think so at all!!! Heavenly Father would not give something to His children that would make them stumble and fall or confuse them, that is Satans qualities. God is Perfect and the Holy Bible is a gift from God and it is good. Keep reading it and ask that he reveal what the scriptures mean. Believe that you will get your prayers heard. in Jesus name.


The Word 4 years ago

Your ways are not my ways and fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Rebellion is as of witchcraft and God never changes. Yes Jesus came to fullfil the law but you do not seek deep enough to find the truth. Man was made for God and women for men. Women failure to be submissive and mans failure to love the women as Jesus loves the church. In the end you will see. May God have mercy on your souls. Many both men and women have learned flesh religion and not the truth of the spirit. Blessings to my brothers and sisters and thoughs are the ones who do the will of the Father. Even Jesus at times had to walk away.


Rina Pinto 4 years ago

Why are we all wasting arguing on woman praching? - Mathew 13:30 says " Gather the wheat into My barn" don't wait for one another to witness the Lord's WORD. Put on the Amour of God - Ephesians 6:11-18. We must be eager to carrying on this task of Witnessing God. Joel- 2:28 says " And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions" I got a lot to say but .. Let the Holy Spirit do its work and we Obey .. We are all called to do His Will .. lets do it with Reverence and not argue about woman preaching .. The Mission our Lord Jesus gave us is to go into the World and Witness His Name.. He is coming soon .. so stop any arguments and lets begin the good work .. Jesus is Lord & God and Every knee bows and every tongue confesses Jesus is the Lord the Soon & The Coming King .. Hallelujah


Paschal 4 years ago

From analytical piont of view on some comments men and women can preach or be priest but my question is why did Jesus included not even one woman as his apostles rather all were men ? I think women has a specific and limited role to play in the gospel of Jesus Christ .How many women were crucified like Christ or were put to death because of the gospel of Jesus Christ but I am not saying that they (women )can not evangelise which they even did while Christ was on earth but to preach as a priest in the congregation of men is not scriptural remember prophesy and preaching are of two different gift as one of my beloveth sister was referring the book of Joel .


female 4 years ago

Thank you so much people of God,for a very helpful comments.May god bless you all.

Now I am ready to preach the word of God in our church this Sunday.

So please pray for me.


his speaker sparkle 4 years ago

Hi im a 33 year old female. The bible can be used as a weapon. In slave times it was used to tell another person slavery was right. I have read the slave scripture as well as the silent women scripture. The devil hates Eve he wants her and Adam to fight. Eve has to stop listening to the devil he told her she was not perfect in the garden. she was perfect God told her she was. I ask my self do i hear the Lord or the devil when i think about this women silent in church thing. God said we should go into houses with our blessing if they don't want your blessing shake the dust off your heels and leave; so stand up in church and tell every thing that has breath what God is to you if they try and stone you pray for a church home were you can stand and speak and show others how to get to God. Eve is free the curse removed. Adam listen to eve in the garden and she was trying to help adam. She listen to the devil and lead adam wrong. Ladies our placed was established by God. Adam will listen to us. He longs to see us smile. so i ask what are you telling Adam to do in your family? you know a women can tell a man like no other and man can tell a women. so that why when i speak God makes all people listen this includes men. Ladies of african american/white/native american decent know we followed our women out of slavery into the arms of christ. she could not read the scripture that said women shut up, but she told every Man, women, and child "HER God was goin bring us out all right" and we aint in heaven yet but mamma was not a lair cause to day we in the "white House". Lets not forget paul who before he heard the lord killed people for what he did not understand. But when God said go to Gentiles people went to scripture and he said I'm still goin to the gentiles anyway. If GOD said it you better go or you might end up in a belly of a whale lol. I pray God will fix the hurt between Adam and Eve. In Jesus name I pray I am goin to allow God to use me Im not going to push or try and controll any one. when ms tubman left her husband to help free slaves I know he said "girl im ur man and i said no" and she said he's my God and he says yes go. She heard God left her husband and took slaves male and female through the woods to the north. She went alone many times scared and cold but if you hear God aint no body else got to hear it but you cause its your instructions to carry out. women have told about christ and She will continue to do so. This is a war you don't get twice so live your life Ladies. I'm scared of nothing so let them stone me if I die for Christ then I know I have lived a righteous life. This battle is not our its the Lord and aour Dad is Victorious so if we as women fall short we are still saved by grace. I'm praying for everyone so everyone only one got it right his name is Jesus the rest of us goin to make mistakes and God said it ok we are here just tryin to get right so we can get back home to Daddy


Ron 4 years ago

This is a fantastic hub!

Ron from http://www.intervalstraining.net


Comfort 4 years ago

This issue of women not allowed to preach is what has stiffled my coming up as a minister of the gospel. I had a call into the ministry from childhood. thru my childlike faith and ministry my parents became born-again. a prophecy came that i would be a great woman of God. I thought I could only be a support to my husband who should be in the ministry. I never had a man of God proposing marriage to me. I got married to a Christian who could not stand before people but witnessed in private to others. I had the call again and my husband encouraged me to go into the ministry. The moment, I stepped foot into the seminary, I experienced a peace that I had never known all my life. Is it then wrong that I am going to be a pastor and preach whiles my husband listens? when a man cannot be a minister, the wife can. If I don't teach, how do people get to know all these revelations I get from God's word. I have a mission like every other christian to bring the goodnews to the poor and with His words heal the broken hearted. Is that not what Christ expects us to tell the world: that He has overcome the world and through His death we are reconciled to the Father?


bema 4 years ago

all i can say is what ever u want to call it ifgod called u u better obey time is too short to fight over something aslittle as gender we should be working together as beleivers reaching the lost in what ever way the lord has put in our spirit a church divided can not stand and that's is what i see as i read this morning my prayers is that we all return to the alter and let God speak to our hearts be shore its open to hear what he has to say and to the women of god out there obey go he will have your back if nobody does i no this from experience let him use u.


Craig 4 years ago

I liked the article and Biblical references but for goodness sake... PLEASE have someone check your grammar... Your use of was and were is just terrible and when seekers read these comments they will cringe and pre suppose that the writer is not capable of communicating effectively... BIG PROBLEM... In a world that is looking for any excuse to put down our belief in God....!!!!


Deacon 4 years ago

Please read 1:Timothy chapter 4. Some things are very clear in the Bible, and this is one of those things. Men and women no matter what your beliefs are you can find someone who will support them ,however we better make sure God supports them.


Deacon 4 years ago

Please read 1:Timothy chapter 3. Some things are very clear in the Bible, and this is one of those things. Men and women no matter what your beliefs are you can find someone who will support them ,however we better make sure God supports them.


august rush 4 years ago

Those who believe that women can lead have a second thought. Be wise and see what kind of world we have today. Behaviors of people are changing. It's getting worst now a days. Men who are supposed to be working as a head becomes weak & idle. Women are taking the lead. Open your eyes and see the world today. Feminist way of leading is inside the church. There is a least subjection of women to men. People of God see that the harlot is a woman. Woman influences man to a level that a man act as a woman. A young boy leads by woman will soon become a gay. See how many gays that this world have today. Men of God needs to influence young boy to become a man someday. If a woman is a pastor and his husband is not. When this two couple is inside the church should the husband submit to her pastor wife? When they are in their home, who will be the head of the family? The Husband or the Pastor wife? Those who believe that women can lead above men, open your eyes. You are decieved. Women teach young girl to become helpful at home and to love their husband. Teach also the Gospel to your fellow women. Christ is the Head of the Church, a man is the head of woman. Always keep that in mind.


stella awopetu 4 years ago

honestly i agree with august rush ass a lady who once thought it was all okay for womenn preachers.... apart from the days of judges show me where God had ordained women preachers on a large scale over men.... it is spiritually wrong... people who say women are more spiritual that's a false doctrine... who was created first whoo tallked to God first... women was made as a helpmate for a man, since when did feminist politics come to the church. God as made it clear in his words. men is the head anything else will harm the spiritually and will change the role of a man. Men are very sensitive being, take away a mans job or authority he is destroyed and becomes confused. this is happening in the world already.. an a women preacher can bring men to lust as they will look at her , her shape knowing the way women dress no matter what we wear lust will still happen.

God bless


Regina Williams 4 years ago

The question is has God called women to preach? While 1Timothy 3 explains the qualifications of overseers, specifically the office of Bishop and Deacon, it appears to me that women should not be Pastors or Deacons. But, that does not mean that they can't preach. Is it not true that a woman can preach w/o being a Pastor or overseer. Furthermore, it brings up another question: There are several well known women Pastors and the supernatural power of God is truly seen in the lives of these women. How do you explain the Supernatural anointing on their lives? Why does God continue to bless these women? Because of these trues and the fact God has not specifically said in His word that Women should not Pastor or Preach, I am unsure. Furthermore, can't God use who he wants, unfortunately a lot of men have not taken their rightful place as Godly men and the will of God must go forth.


JOY 4 years ago

I am just as confused as when I began researching this subject. I don't think God wants us to fight over who is getting people saved, do you mean all those people out there that were saved by women preachers are going to hell? I think I will just keep my childlike faith and believe that God loves all of us and it doesn't matter to him who taught us how to get to heaven, just that we get there! Somehow this subject brings out the worst in some people, and I don't think that's what loving everyone is all about. Lord forgive all of us, and let the men in Heaven anyway!


Joy 4 years ago

Pls i need help am in a state of confussion right now i just feel am not fullfilling destiny as demanted i need to know what is happening to me deepin my heart


Quintan 4 years ago

Don't be confused, what the Bible says is clear. Sadly, these days the word is interpreted to the convenience of the one preaching it. The issue here is more about rebellion and unwillingness to submit.


Jason 4 years ago

"A calling of God has been placed upon my heart!!".. truly.. i know that sensation all to well!!... i would have to say.. if God is calling you.. it would be very good for you to respond favorably! Say yes!! Yes!! A hundred times over yes!! Don't listen to what mear people tell you.. i say.. listen to God! For he can and will call anyone! Women.. men.. and children alike.. now i can tell you this one thing.. perhapts.. there is someone out there.. whom would be only/better reached through the words spoken from the mouth of a woman.. so that's what God will use! Yes indeed!! for My wife is one.. consider this.. if you were a women whom has been raped repedidly by men.. would you listen to one preaching?? Come on people!! Let us not be found arguing over very simple matters!! God will use anyone he can.. simple as that!! May God greatly bless and enrich you all with spiritual revelations!!


Jason 4 years ago

Personally speaking.. i find it very common.. for us to become a bit confused.. lost.. and troubled in heart.. when God does begin to speak to us from within.. its only natural for us to question that faint wisper Of a voice from within... with things such as.."was that truly God whom has spoken/called upon me??" or have i been greatly mislead/decieved?? for we are just now learning to disern between spirits.. as in..what is truly of God.. and what is not.. for there are spiritual forces of darkness secretly at work from within us... hoping to confuse.. and delay.. Gods kingdom purpose.. soo you think you hear a calling of God to ministry?? I can tell you this one thing.. that one.. is definitly coming from God!!.. for.."a kingdom divided will never stand!" Now.. lets think about this.. Satan wouldn't be calling you to bring his own defeat now would he??


Jason 4 years ago

A God inspired thought.. now.. typically whenever there is a war to be faught.."the men" would typically be the first ones to be sent out.. and the woman and children typically would be kept behind.. where they are kept as safe and secure from all forms of harm, then if one of the men were to become fatally wonded in battle..(by satanic attacks) then he would return back home once again to his wife (the woman) to be restored/nurtured back to health once again.. then once his (spiritual) health has been fully restored.. then once again.. he would be set out for war... just as before.. but now what do you suppose may have happened here.. if all the men were to be (spiritally) killed?? Yes!.. then sure enough.. the woman would be forced to fight!!.. and what if a woman was to be single?? As in.. she has no husband??.. then why just sit behind doing nothing?? If one was found to be willing to join in and fight with the men?? But all together.. i would have to say.."we are all on the same team!"


Jason 4 years ago

??A God inspired question??.. what exactly would you all consider to be "preaching"?? Anyways??.. for if it were not for my wifes constant words of correction/nagging.. or perhapts maybe even what you may consider to be what men can only do.. thus..."preaching".. i would NOT be the man that i am today!.. for she had saved my soul in a way.. that "no man ever Could have".. think about that...


Jason 4 years ago

One more thing.. i cant understand what all this talk is about regarding all these "God given titles and differing possitions of power and authority".. such as male.. or female.. "preacher".."pastor"..or.."bishop".. and such as this.. for God has declaired.."let no one call you that!!.. for you have only one teacher!! And you are all seen as equal.. as brothers and sisters in Christ!" So why all the debate over.. exactly who is greater.. or lesser.. and why all the debate over who is qualified for what??.. for scripture has been more then clear on this topic.. that "the least among us will be the greatest".. thus if a woman is seen by us men or by God himself even.. as being the lesser of the two.. then that right there would render her as being all the greater in Gods eyes now wouldn't it??? Besides.. even the apostils.. refered to them selves as being "slaves to Jesus Christ".. nothing more.. did they not?? .. for they were called to be an apostle.. yes sure!!.. but title asumes.."a lowly slave"... thus.. i would have to say.. that woman would be just as qualified to a part of ministry as men.. or even more so qualified... what do you say?? Would you agree??


Jasonon 4 years ago

I have run into but one conflict in my life.. with my wife (as a woman)... where i had felt.. that.. yes.. perhapts yes.. indeed!!.. she...should have honored that scripture.. posted oww soo many times above.. and remained silent.. just as she was commaned to be by God himself... this was a time when she should have been more submissive to me i feel.. and my calling in the lord.. it was when she had opposed/challenged my God given revelation that i had felt that the lord had me to deliver at the time.. thus.. she had made me out to look like a fool before all my listeners.. as l was attempting to speak on behalf of the lord.. so i have noticed.. this has often times happened when i had attempted to deliver my testimony of how God had delivered me from a sinful life..(primarly a battle over lust for woman and things) and given the fact that she was a huge part of that deliverance.. for me to speak/bring back up.. such things. as this. now.. this would re-opened her old wounds that i had caused to her... that are just now.. currently healing.. for she would much rather i leave it all behind us!!.. and never speak of it again!!.. but now if i did that.. then where has my testimony gone???.. thus:.. a God given revelation has been fully flushed down the toilet by her words of contradiction/hinderance!! Thus.. i feel this is where that scripture does come into play.. a wife is not to oppose a husbands calling to serve.. regardless of the pain it may cause to her.. when he does speak...


Jason 4 years ago

A few Scriptures to back my spoken words above..

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But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9 And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

Matthew 23:8-12 NIV

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Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them.

***Not so with you!!***

Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 27 and whoever wants to be first must be your slave— 28 just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

Matthew 20:25-28 NIV

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Jason 4 years ago

I will apoligize ahead of time for all my multiple anoying posts on here.. but i will try to end this here with this one last note... then i will leave you all alone.. and bother you all no more.. but honestly speaking quite frankly.. i find it increadably difficult for me to ever imagine myself to be "preaching" (full tilt/without holding back) in real life (and not secretly hidding out.. fufilling this calling through a computer like i have been) wile my wife is still alive here upon the earth (not that i would ever be found to be wishing death upon her) for i do see myself offending her.. no matter how i do look at this.. for there is no doubt.. i would be proclaiming my testimony of my deliverance and victory over my sin!!.. for there is no doubt i would be wanting.. to save all i can from the snare of lustful sin.. that i was sooo deeply trapped from under for countless numbers of years!!.. but if i were to ever spreak of these things.. given my wife to be there also listening to my words.. now i just cant see this ever to be happening!!.. for she would never allow it!! Now this is soo deeeply troubeling for me to be holding back like this!.. when God does daily compel me to speak up!! Now if only my wife could see things exactly how i do!! And free me up to proclaiming the complete and full truth without any resteaints!! For i would bear all!! Now If only she would allow for me to speak freely as God does provide all the words! Now If only she were to remain silent.. and understand my calling! and fully allow for the holy-spirit to speak up through me!!


Jason 4 years ago

I ran across another scripture today.. that does fall perfectly in line with this topic posted here.. this is indeed a very troublesome topic!

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Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says. If they have any questions, they should ask their husbands at home, for it is improper for women to speak in church meetings.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 NLT

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but i have found other scriptures declaring that woman will be prophesying, and obviously this will be to a gathered crowd of some sort.. but they are to be wearing a head garment when doing so... out of respect for there men that they are being held under By God himself.. so it does appear to me that women will indeed be speaking a word of the lord.. but to what exact people.. that is not very clear to me.. and to what exact extent.. i am not so sure any more... but it doesn't appear that it will be during any common everyday church meeting.

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A man dishonors his head if he covers his head while praying or prophesying. But a woman dishonors her head if she prays or **prophesies** without a covering on her head, for this is the same as shaving her head. Yes, if she refuses to wear a head covering, she should cut off all her hair! But since it is shameful for a woman to have her hair cut or her head shaved, she should wear a covering.

A man should not wear anything on his head when worshiping, for man is made in God’s image and reflects God’s glory. And woman reflects man’s glory.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 NLT

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Jason 4 years ago

sorry i meant to post (1 Corinthians 11:4-7) above

But a woman dishonors her head if she prays or prophesies without a covering on her head

1 Corinthians 11:4-7 NLT


Against women preachers 4 years ago

My wife said she was called to preach but she was heavy influenced by a lady who is a pastor to do so. This lady did it by praying and prophesying with her. I showed her scripture Tim 2:12 and Tim 3 that shows the qualifications of officers in the church. Tim 3 even ends by saying " But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth." So, how can women say they are called to preach inside the church, the one that gives the message to the believers. My wife claims she's an evangelist but evangelist worked outside of the church service, they didn't bring the message to the flock. Women, Be WOMEN, Quit trying to make yourselves equal to men and do things that God gave to men only. Oh, I also quit going to the same church with my wife.



Sue 3 years ago

Many men have placed men in ordained places that God did not place them in and many women have placed women in the same way. But when God speaks to a man or a women and He tells them what He wants them to do, then what man or woman has the right to stop them from obeying what the Holy Spirit says to them? No right! Let the Holy Spirit lead your life and do the will of God. God is no respecter of persons and He has a call on those who will hear regardless of your gender. Test the spirit to see if it is of God or a familiar spirit.

What people have failed to realize is during Paul's day they had laws of the land and customs that stem back centuries; even until to Sarah, Abraham’s wife who was covered in a veil and called her husband lord. In Paul's day they called each other by their birth name. In Paul’s day some women wore veils and some did not; as each age of the world came to pass, new laws and customs came in and old laws and customs done away with by men.

Some customs remained and other customs were changed. Paul's day would have been different than Malachi’s days, and Malachi's days different than Joshua’s day, and Joshua's day different than Noah’s days and back to Abraham’s day. Each age or stage of the world had laws of the land and customs of that day and age that changed as time passed.

And we must remember that many women were not educated and for many centuries women were not even allowed in the synagogues or Holy places. They had to rely on their husbands or fathers or brothers to tell them what was what. And in Corinthians many women most likely yelled across to the husbands saying, “Husband what do he mean?” “Husband what is he saying?” In which it would cause disruption and confusion in the congregation. Women and men did not sit with one another because of the customs of those days. And it is like that in some Eastern places to this very day.

To keep order in the church of Paul’s day and era, he spoke and set rules to bring order in what was a chaotic situation/time period and according to the customs of Paul’s day. Today in our churches we can sit next to the opposite sex, we can play instruments in the church, and sing, and what ever the church we are in allows. We are not under the veil, nor do women wear long dresses as they did in ancient times. Neither do men wear robes as in Paul’s day or even as far back as Abraham’s clothing which differed than Paul’s clothing.

In the Old and New Testament days they washed one another’s feet because of their customs and due to dirty roads and paths people traveled. Today we do not wash other people’s feet when they come into our home because we have paved roads, cars, shoes on our feet and so on. Our feet are not dirty from the dust of the ground.

In a nutshell, Paul’s day their customs directed their lives. And our customs in our nation differs from other surrounding countries in today’s world. Let’s not argue about what has called someone to do but get busy doing God’s work in saving lost souls, leading people to Christ, and helping those in need. We don’t need gender wars in the Christian faith, we need the help of the Holy Spirit in setting people free.


sue 3 years ago

wow...I see my comment wasn't added...I guess a concrete answer is not what you want...not good for your website...got to keep the controversy going


jeff 3 years ago

tell me how can a woman be the husband of one wife.in 2 tim. 2 ;1


suzqy 3 years ago

If someone is lead by the Spirit of God and He instructs them in what He wants them to do, then who is any man or woman to say otherwise. Let God be God in their lives and remember, the bible is history of a people of a different culture, and a book of lessons from other's lives they lived, full of customs we don't live, and laws set up for that time, and it is a book for when Jesus (In red) speaks and commands. If God tells me what he wants me to do, regardless of what others think or feel, I am going to do it whether they approve or not. lets get souls saved and stop the gender control issues. lets raise the dead, heal the sick, and get the word spread, the good news is for everyone anywhere and any time.


suzyq 3 years ago

in the old testament it records that the 70 elders (males) being filled witht the Spirit to lead the people. (according to the culture and custom of that time). If you check the bible in the new testament, the upper room had men and women and they were all filled with the Holy spirit and began to speak with new tongues, and othes heard them magnifing God and prophesying. God is no respector of persons but mankind is and each culture during each age of the world has its own way. We are not under the law of those days. we are not under the customs of those days. In the home the husband is head of the home but in the church God is the head and His spirit directs people to do His will. whether male or female. God calls all to serve and he leads them.


suzyq 3 years ago

lets look at what God is doing with women, and the miracles and healings and souls of men and women being saved:

Anne Hutchinson 1591-1643 Anne was a preacher in 17th century Massachusetts,

Anne Bradstreet 1612-1672,

Margaret Fell 1614-1702,

Anne Dutton 1692-1765 Anne was a theologian,

Selina, Countess of Huntingdon 1707-1791,

Sarah Osborn 1714-1796 Sarah was a Christian leader and writer

Sarah Crosby 1729-1804 Sarah was a famous Methodist preacher

Ann Lee 1736-1784 Ann was a Quaker missionary

Hannah More 1745-1833 Hannah was a famous writer and philanthropist.

Phyllis Wheatley 1753-1784 Phyllis was a poet

Hannah Adams 1755-1831 Hannah was a famous Christian writer.

Elizabeth Ann Seton 1774-1821 She was a Christian writer

Ann Judson 1789-1826 Ann was a missionary to Burma

Phoebe Palmer 1807-1874 Phoebe was a famous evangelist and writer

Fanny Crosby 1820-1915 Fanny (Frances) was a famous hymn writer of the 19th century

Antoinette Brown 1825-1921 In 1853 she became the first ordained Congregationalist woman minister

Catherine Booth 1829-1890

Catherine Booth was a preacher. She married William Booth in 1855. (At first William disagreed with the idea of women preachers but he changed his mind after hearing Catherine preach!). Catherine and William founded the Salvation Army in 1865.

Hannah Whitall Smith 1832-1911 Hannah was a writer and evangelist

Lottie Moon 1840-1912 She was a missionary to China

Maria Woodworth-Etter 1844-1924 She was a famous evangelist

Mary Slessor 1848-1915 She was a missionary to Africa

Christian Women in the 20th Century

Evangeline Booth 1865-1950

From 1904 Evangeline was leader of the Salvation Army in the USA. From 1934-39 she was Commander in Chief of the Salvation Army worldwide.

Ida Scudder 1870-1960 She was a medical missionary

Evely Brand 1879-1974 She was a missionary to India

Gladys Aylward 1903-1970 She was a missionary to China

Patricia St John 1919-1993 She was a Christian writer

Esther John 1929-1960 She was a Pakistani Christian nurse and martyr

Eva Burrows 1930- She was an Australian evangelist

Meanwhile a new Christian movement started at the beginning of the 20th Century - Pentecostalism. Many of the preachers in the new movement were women.

Agnes Ozman 1870-1937 She was a Pentecostal evangelist

Aimee Semple McPherson 1890-1944 She is probably the most famous women evangelist of the early 20th century

now check out the women of today that are leading people to Christ, God healing others through their hands and by the Words He gives them to say. Miracals taking place today. God dwells in us all to do the work He has set before us.


jeff 3 years ago

when Jesus choice his disciples how many of them were women. and in 1st timothy 3 it talks about a man desire the office of a bishop not a woman, and he has got to be the husband of of one wife now how can a woman be the husband of one wife. come this is gods word and it is clear


Jax 2 years ago

When the Bible says something, why do people try so hard to justify doing the complete opposite?


suzyq 2 years ago

This is not about bishops but about women preaching/teaching God's word or speaking in the church. Study the word and you will see Paul himself sent women out to start churches up. God sent Deborah out to lead a Nation to victory and God said He is no respecter of persons: "your sons and you daughters shall prophesy, I see neither male nor female”, etc...Prophesy--to speak as a mediator between God and humankind or in God's stead.... to declare or foretell by or as if by divine inspiration...to give instruction in religious subjects, etc......If you study Corinthians, you will note in those days women were not educated, they were not given many rights, or hardly held high places. This is due to the years of cultures and customs of the land; Men making rules and not always from God. God never ordained or told men to have more than one wife.

Men married many wives and some women gave them their ok (like Sarah and Rachael) so they cold have a child through another woman. Because of that age of the world, it was considered shameful if a woman did not have children or men to have offspring to carry on their name; that dear people, is part of THEIR culture and customs of those days. God never gave MEN His permission for more than one wife. Men did that on their own accord. When Moses finally came along and grew up, he had to instruct men in taking care of their multiple wives and providing for their children. No law existed in Abraham's day. Men just took over and lead by their physical strength and maleness; by their own thoughts and hearts with and without God’s approval.

Now when Jesus came on the scene, He chose the first 12 disciples, and they were men because of the customs and their culture and LAWS of that time; women would not be heard. Jesus needed to get His message out without division from the people of that day (of that time period). Their culture and LAWS did not allow woman rights, freedoms, or ownership of any properties, even of their own children nor women to be heard. Jesus had to obey the customs and LAWS of the land of those days in order to fulfill His purpose and get His word out too. Jesus did not go against the LAW of the land of that time period.

If He let women go into other towns during those times, they would have been stoned because of the laws of those days. Jesus was just getting started in His ministry and had to build His foundation first. You need to realize the Bible tells about the history of a past people, of customs’ and of cultures, and LAWS of those days and then you have God's instruction for all peoples or Jesus telling us ALL to go into the world and PREACH THE GOSPEL, THE GOOD NEWS to all creatures to the ends of the earth.

If you study the bible, you will see customs, cultures, and laws of those days and you will see when God commands or speaks His will to all the people, Male and Female. You need to realize Paul’s day and laws of the land were different than our laws of the land today. Our customs are different than Paul’s day. Our Laws are different than Paul’s day. And then realize God commands all to do as Christ did and lay hands on the sick and heal, to cast out devils, to spread His word, exhort and lift up one another, encourage, lead by example, pray always, instruct, correct, and do good, to all people. This is not a man thing or a woman thing. This is God’s commands, God’s instructions, and God’s will. The leading of the Holy Spirit and His instruction overrides men and women’s opinions. God’s will and call on an individual’s life.

People need to realize what part of the bible is of the people’s culture, what part of the bible is part of the people’s customs of that time, and what part of the bible are the Laws of those days, what part of the bible God is commanding or instructing. You will see there are times God is commanding, times when Paul is instructing the people to their culture and customs and laws of the land in his time.

The husband is head of his wife in the home, yet even God sees them as one not one over the other, for the two shall become one. And God is the head of the whole church and He calls whomsoever He will to service. The single women are under Christ not any woman’s husband. If men would see the virtuous wife they have, and how God wants to use them mightily, then they should not fear the woman would rise above them but would be doing God’s will for God’s kingdom. This life with Christ is not about who is higher, stronger, wiser, powerful, or noticed more, etc… but about building God’s kingdom up and helping people and finding Christ; when the Holy Spirit is leading a person it's not a man nor a woman in charge but God himself speaking, teaching, instructing, correcting, leading. People need to realize God is doing the work not mankind, for it is not by our powers but by the power and by the laading of the Holy Spirit and not mankind. GOD IS DOING THE SPEAKING AND IT'S GODS WORD NOT OUR WORDS BEING SPOKEN.

Stop looking at people on the outside but recognize when God is working through them to get a message out, or a healing accomplished, or a soul saved. This is not a man ministry or a woman ministry; it belongs to God. It’s God’s ministry not ours. Regardless who is standing at the pulpit, it’s God speaking and His word, not yours, not mine or anyone else’s word.

Let God do the work in a someones life and don't force them to believe your opinion or interpretation by telling them to stop serving God and obeying god's call for them. that's between them and God. People take care of your own business and let people serve God when He calls them to do a job, even if you don't agree with the job He calls them to do.


suzyq 2 years ago

P.S. exhort authority over a man. When God is directing, speaking, working through someone, it is not that person's AUTHORITY COMING THROUGH but God's word coming forth. It's God and His Word, His commandments, His instructions; in the church when God is speaking through someone (male or female), then if we realize God is speaking, we should easily handle the instruction or word spoken.

I don't understand while people can't recognize God's word being spoken regardless of the vessel used. why is it so hard for others to see God in someone''s life? doing a job He instructed them to do. Regardless of the vessel, if God is speaking through someone, why should it matter whether they are male or female, God's talking and we are all vessels being used.

If the person is doing God's will and souls are being saved, healings taking place, lives changed for Christ, then why stop God's work in them because someone feels they are not obeying what they think is the meanning of some scripture?


Redeemed_Alice@yahoo.com 2 years ago

WOW! This is awesome, SHUT THE MOUTH OF THE LION! Glory to the Lamb of God!


slixxsta 2 years ago

God didn't send Deborah to lead a nation, He sent her to deliver a message to Barack because He knew Barack would listen to her and you miss the big point, they were already in captivity when Deborah was leading. Woman leading, they were in captivity. The Lord told Deborah to tell Barack to go fight because He was going to win it for them, but Barack wimped out and said I will not go without you and she said ok but a women will get the glory of winning the war. She went and watched while Barack gave orders to the men, and Barack and his men were winning like God said he'd do for them. It was Jail not Deborah who is credited with winning the war. Yes God can use who He wants and he used Deborah to deliver a message but No woman was sent to teach/preach to the saints, doesn't mean she can't testify but cant teach.


slixxsta 2 years ago

The scripture in Galatians quoted there is no male or female in Christ has nothing at all to do with women being allowed to teach/preach, read the whole scripture. Phoebe was not a preacher/teacher, nor was Mary.


suzyq 2 years ago

the word Silent is a mistyped word and it really says if you will search it out... peaceable. and Deborah judged the nation 40 years. a prophetess. http://www.khouse.org/6640/CD014-2 chuck missler on can women teach.


slixxsta 2 years ago

The people were in captivity when Deborah was leading, it ended when Jail drove the tent stake thru the opposing forces army leaders head. The ruling was returned to man. Deborah didn't lead for 40 years. There was peace for 40 years but men we leading. Judging had nothing to do with leading a nation and yes the Bible says she was a prophetess. Timothy 2:11 - 2:15 is clear about the role of women when it comes to teaching and chapt 3 talks about pastoring, it was all men. Jesus didn't change it. This why the church is going down and not effective because the church can't even agree on this subject and rather call it what it is church compromise and allow women to teach, compromise should not be an option with the Word of God. It's the truth and if you get mad at it or can't handle it, that's your problem.


Janiece 2 years ago

Hi, thank you for this! I have been wondering and worrying about this myself and many men do not want women to preach because of the Pauline doctrine. It is peculiar that they use one text from the Bible and do not even consider the women leaders, the possibility of Constantine throwing out anything that women did to have a male dom society, and many other aspects, esp about how we should look at the heart and not the flesh. I wanted to be a Pastor but those dreams are dead now because I do not want to go against these men that are so viciously attacking any woman who dares to approach the pulpit. I am a virgin at 45 years old, never married, never had kids and I feel the calling on my life as I was just saved 7 years ago. I went to LIberty University, in hopes to accomplish the calling and dream, then I find that women are not to usurp authority over men because of what Paul wrote. I understand the divine order of God as it states that in the home and church; however, if someone like myself is called, I guess I should just remain silent? I wish I were a man then I could preach the word but I am just a woman. What do I do? Pray for me.


Slixxsta 2 years ago

Deborah did not rule for 49 yrs, order was restored when Barack defeated Sisera, I believe that's how his name was spelled & God did not send Deborah to rule ANY nation.

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