Is hell of the Bible real?

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There has been a lot of talk lately about the existence of hell and if it is really forever.  In a  recently written book by Michigan mega church pastor Rob Bell, Bell states that if hell exists, it can't be for eternity.  He says that in the end, after death, everyone will have another chance to follow Christ and they will take it and repent, and in the end  Everyone will end up in heaven.  This kind of false teaching is foolish and extremely dangerous.

Universalism

The idea of universalism states that in the end every human will end up in heaven, so we should not focus on the heaven and hell in the future, but focus on our life her and now. Trevin Wax who is an editor for the Southern Baptist convention Lifeway resources said that " If our biggest need was to feel good about ourselves, God would have sent Oprah, and if our biggest need was to get along with our family, God would have sent Dr. Phil. But God sent his son to brutally die for our sins on the cross, then surely our sin must be more heinous than feeling empty inside." Wax also said that "The greatest threat to Christianity may not be from modern culture, blatant heresies, or the rise of Islam. It may come from the counterfeit gospel, the seeds of which are slowly being planted within the church."

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Biblical basis

There is no basis whatsoever in the Bible to back up Bells ideas. There are many many references that the opposite is true. Hell does exist, and it is for eternity. The Greek word for hell was used in the New Testament 12 times, 11 of those times were from the mouth of Jesus Christ. If you don't believe in the biblical teaching of hell, you don't believe in the teachings of Jesus himself.

If you don't believe in the teachings of Jesus, then you are saying Jesus is a liar and the Bible is not true. You can't pick and choose the parts of the Bible that you want to believe. If you only believe in the parts of the Bible that work for you, you are not a follower of Christ.

Reality of hell

John MacArthur preaching on the subject of hell said, "The truth of eternal punishment to come on those who do not believe the gospel savingly is a painful message to preach, it is a painful message to hear, it is a painful message to process. It is a painful truth to apply, but it is biblical." Matthew 25: 45-46 45 “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ 46 “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”

Revelation 14: 10-11 10 must drink the wine of God’s anger. It has been poured full strength into God’s cup of wrath. And they will be tormented with fire and burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and the Lamb. 11 The smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever, and they will have no relief day or night, for they have worshiped the beast and his statue and have accepted the mark of his name.” Just from these 2 passages you can see that hell is not just a bad time. No, hell is clearly a place of torment and pain that will last forever.

Christ died to save us from hell
Christ died to save us from hell

Evidence of Hell

Luke 16: 24-26 24 “The rich man shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. I am in anguish in these flames.’
25 “But Abraham said to him, ‘Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides, there is a great chasm separating us. No one can cross over to you from here, and no one can cross over to us from there.’ This clearly shows that you can't get to heaven after death, once you die and go to hell, you can't leave. There is no second chance after death.

Hell Is Forever

In the gospels hell is described as a place of unimaginable torment, weeping and gnashing of teeth, spiritual and bodily destruction, fiery furnace, outer darkness, unquenchable fires and endless torment. These words from the Bible do not leave any room for different interpretation, hell is clearly not a place that anyone wants to be even for a short time, and you certainly don't want to be there for eternity.

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Judgement for sin

God is a loving God but he is also a just God and the price must be paid for all sins. Jesus died to pay the price for all sins, all we need to do is believe and repent and turn away from our sins. God will give you a new life and a new heart and you will not want to continue to sin.

God would not have sent Jesus to die on the cross to pay the price for our sins If we could all continue to sin and live like we want here on earth, then after we die we could make the decision that we believe and repent for all out sins.

If you follow Bell's teaching that you can say your sorry after death and still go to heaven, you are wrong, you will not have the chance to change your mind after death, you will not spend eternity in heaven, you will be sentenced to eternity in hell.

A great illustration of God being just and not evil is by comparing to mans law. If someone breaks the laws of man, and goes before a judge or a jury to face the charges and they say that they are sorry for their crime, it doesn't change the fact that they have to pay the price for the crime. Even if you commit a seemingly small crime like texting while driving or not wearing a seat belt. The judge is not going to let you out of the fine because you say you are sorry for breaking the law. There are penalties for breaking the law and you must pay for the crime.

If you were sentenced to a $10,000 fine for a crime and couldn't pay it, you would go to jail, even if you were sorry. If someone paid the fine for you, you would be allowed to go free, the price for your crime has been paid. If God is just he will also not forget about the sins against him if you say your sorry on judgement day, you will be held accountable for the sins you've committed.

There would have been no reason for God to send Jesus to earth to die and pay the price for our sins, if we could wait until we die and then say we are sorry and it's done. He sent Jesus to earth to die for our sins, to pay the price, so if we choose to accept this gift, we will be spared the pain of Hell.


Don't be wrong

The Mega church preachers who are teaching this type of religion where having a great life here on earth should be our focus, are leading many people away from the truth of the gospel and what God wants us to do. Our job is to spread the truth, and let people know that this feel good gospel is wrong. The price for being wrong is eternity in hell. God doesn't want anyone to spend eternity in hell, but on judgement day, he will be just and those who do not believe and repent will be sentenced to eternity in hell. The fact that some don't believe in hell, doesn't change the fact that hell is real and it is forever.

Don't be wrong and think that you can keep sinning and live your life the way you want to and then after you die you can say sorry and yo will be forgiven. There is no Biblical evidence supporting Bells claims and plenty supporting the opposite is true.

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Titen-Sxull 5 years ago from back in the lab again

How exactly is a few Bible verses evidence that Hell actually exists? You can't just slap a few Bible verses out and call that evidence. I can't just pull a few lines from Homer's Odyssey and claim that's proof the Greek Underworld exists.


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spease 5 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

IF you believe the Bible is true, then it is evidence. If you don't believe in the Bible, then you must think, what if your wrong?


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Titen-Sxull 5 years ago from back in the lab again

I could be wrong about it, but if that's the case than you could be wrong about the Muslim Hell, the Greek Underworld, or the Norse Underworld (which is called Helheim and is where we get the word Hell). So I could easily reflect the same question back at you. My guess is that you have lost no sleep worrying about any of the other Underworld concepts scattered throughout mythology, so why do you accept the Biblical one and reject all the others?


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spease 5 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

I don't worry about the other underworld concepts, but I do worry about the people that believe in them. I don't want them to spend eternity in hell. There is lots of evidence that the Bible is true, I have faith in the truth of the Bible, as many have faith in other beliefs that have no proof of truth. The point is that Bell says he believes in God, and the Bible is the word of God, but he is leaving out the parts he doesn't like.


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Titen-Sxull 5 years ago from back in the lab again

He's interpreting it differently than you are. Even if he weren't interpreting the scriptures differently there are moral reasons to reject Hell, such as the fact that it would make God the most evil being to ever exist.


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lone77star 5 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Hello, Spease. Cherry picking scripture is not a nice thing to do, especially if one is a supposed minister.

False interpretation is also not very nice, but I think we're all guilty of that. In all humility, I keep searching for understanding, asking God for guidance.

What Titen-Sxull seems not to understand is that there are other ways of looking at the world around us, not just his own.

How is it possible to view God as loving and have Hell be a reality? Simple. Hell is our own decision, not God's. It couldn't be any simpler. But that kind of philosophical problem happens when one "already knows the truth." That's arrogance. And too many Christians "already know the truth."

The antidote for those lost Christians and for Titen-Sxull is "humility." Only with humility can ego be eliminated. That is the toughest assignment we have, because ego wants us to think that we are it. When we buy into the idea that we are our own egos, then we block the way to salvation.

When Jesus died on the cross, he was teaching by example. He was telling us that the false, ego self needs to die before we can be resurrected as children of God. This does not require our own crucifixion, but it is every bit as difficult. Ego is an equal-opportunity slave master -- the master of this world.


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Titen-Sxull 5 years ago from back in the lab again

"How is it possible to view God as loving and have Hell be a reality? Simple. Hell is our own decision, not God's"

Only problem is that's not an answer, its apologetics that directly contradict scripture. The Bible repeatedly personifies God as a judge who will judge the living and the dead according to their deeds. When Jesus describes judgment he describes saying to people "depart from me cursed ones into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

You know what Jesus doesn't say? He doesn't say that its a human beings own decision to go to Hell. Of course I understand the desire to reinterpret scripture in order to avoid uncomfortable and immoral things contained in it. Sometimes facing reality can be hard, you might have to reject what the Bible actually says in favor of an interpretation you just made up.


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spease 5 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

You are wrong about Jesus not speaking of hell. Matthew 10:28 says,"28 “Don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

Those are the words of Jesus, I didn't make any of it up.


ruffridyer 5 years ago from Dayton, ohio

I believe hell exsists. It is the separation of us from God. Eternal fire speaks of the spiritual anguish of our souls. The idea that hell is a place of burning where nothing is consumed is a false as the idea that Heaven is in a cloud floating above the earth.


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spease 5 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

There is no scripture that says that heaven is in a cloud floating above the earth,but there are plenty that talk about hell as a place of eternal pain and suffering. How can you say it's false?


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SpanStar 5 years ago

Personally I wish Hell didn't exist but in one of the verses below the bible talks about the lake of fire where the devil and his angels will be tormented forever-(it's in the bible). Doesn't sound like he's talking about simply being separated from God and if he can do this to the devil and demons why can't he include humans? People say this makes God evil but we keep over looking some things. We over look the horror we as humans do to each other and we over look the fact that God has given us a chances after chances to escape this fate but we spit that back in face because we'll accept redemption only on our own terms but hey it's has to do with whether we really being or not.

The following words are very common and were not included in your search: "the" "of"

1.Revelation 20:15

And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:14-15 (in Context) Revelation 20 (Whole Chapter)

Revelation 20

7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.


Brenda Durham 5 years ago

Voted UP, spease. Many preachers have become so politically-correct and tolerant of blatant sin that they're afraid or else too soft to preach the truth. Keep on preachin', brother. Warning people is the job of us Christians. Bless you.


PAMITCHRUS 4 years ago

spease,

Don't be decieved by fairy tales and jewish fables taught by the forked tongues of men.. this doctrine of hell is a lie, the lie of the false prophet, taught by those of no concience...

The Great One shall soon come and punish those who have perverted his justice with this as Peter put it "damable heresy"..

If you will but seek the other side of the story you will easily find how man thru history has pervert both the words of God and the good news of the gospel..

Seek for the truth !!!!!!!


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spease 4 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

Panitchrus,

My view of hell is based on scripture and the word of God from the Bible. What parts of the Bible do you think are fairy tales?


unlikely 4 years ago

i see some comments here are posted years ago so i hesitated to post my belief...well i am a christian and i also believED in hell until i saw a passage in the book of Romans in the Bible,,b4 i tell da passage, i want to tell first my opinion,,

God is Love(1 John 4:8 King James Version (KJV) - He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.).

The Bible said he forgive sins, and once forgiven, HE forgets it,,

(Jeremiah 31:34 King James Version (KJV) - And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. )

so why in the World a God of Love will put sinners into eternal fire and let them suffer pain FOREVER,,

some says that sinners will be put in hell, but God said once a person died, his sins are forgiven, so why will God put sinners to hell if their sins are forgiven.here is the passage i read in romans:

(Romans 6:7 King James Version (KJV) - For he that is dead is freed from sin. )

this only means that hell is not literally described in the bible..


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spease 4 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

God does love us, but sin is not forgiven automatically. God is also just, hell is punishment for sin that is not forgiven because the sinner doesn't want to be forgiven.

You have to read the rest of the verses around Romans 6:7 to get what Paul is talking about.

6 We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. 7 For one who has died has been set free from sin. 8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. 9 We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. 10 For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God.

Luke 16 is one example in the Bible that shows Hell described in vivid terms. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

Hell is real and I don't want anyone to go there.


Lybrah 4 years ago

Great article! Check out my hub on hell when you have the time! Very interesting!


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The0NatureBoy 3 years ago from Washington DC

There are plenty Bible bases for what Bell taught, it our lack of objectivity produced because we continue to eat from "The Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good And Evil" since Adan taught them to their descendants. Th first one I recognized was Revelation 20:14 reading in pat "death and hell were cast into the lake of fire." That statement alone suggest "death and hell are illusions {metaphors}" which, in turn makes the lake of fire a metaphor also.

Thus the question arises, what is "the lake of fire" a metaphor of?

Daniel 12:10's "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; ... the wise shall understand" gives us a clue when looking at Genesis 3:24's "flaming sword" to protect the way back into the "self-reproducing environment" the garden was. Add to that Isaiah 7:14-22 where everyone surviving civilization's end will have to follow the example of the person/people the pseudonym Jesus {pseudonym because Isaiah 11:1-12 gives us a rod and branch messiah with the latter arriving about 1948} represent.

I could turn this into a hub showing the evidence to support his claim.


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The Agnostic 2 years ago

I still do not understand why an all loving God would send his people into an eternity of pain and suffering. At least Hitler only tortured for a finite duration.


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

The concept is simple. All we have to do is obey, accept what he did to forgive our sins, and repent of our sins. If we choose not to obey our creator, we can choose to not spend eternity in heaven with him.

It's similar to the laws of man, if you sin, (break the law), we are punished. The difference is if we ask to be forgiven, and we believe in him, he will not punish us.

If it wasn't for the laws of God in the Bible, we would not even know what was right or wrong, all the laws of man are even based on the laws of God, although the laws of man are changing to be whatever man feels is right or wrong.


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The Agnostic 2 years ago

The bible is not the ultimate guide for morality.

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/A-Practica...

God is apparently all merciful, but after death there is not mercy, only pain for all eternity.


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The0NatureBoy 2 years ago from Washington DC

The Agnostic & Spease,

If you understand what my preceding post is suggesting -- the lake of fire is man's civilizations which never end but changes from a material one into a spiritual one and back forever -- even without believing in reincarnation, the Bible does suggest it without using the word, we know no man's life-force remains in civilization forever. Also, as the Daniel 12:10 partial quotation reveals, only a wise remnant will overcome civilization at any "harvest time" (Revelation 14:18 & 19) to enter the millennium (Rev. 20:4) while everyone who does not nor were the "dead in christ" lives again after that first millennium [to replenish the earth for the spiritual civilization of Revelation 21] (Rev. 20:5) before the rapture [following Mat. 20:1-16] leaves the second messiah to be the Alpha [first fruit of the gospel] and Omega [last raptured after the spirit civilization begins]. Then you both would understand the organized church's doctrine isn't (Isaiah 28:9-15) spirit's doctrine.

People of the organized church don't realize god will teach truth to us directly once we become [bodily] followers of the anointed one (John 3:8 and Matthew 28:19-20), that is, wandering or nomad messengers. Only when we do that will the truth of the Bible, or any other scriptures, be revealed to us.


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The Agnostic 2 years ago

The problem is if you live your life as a good person and sin before death, then you end up in hell. Maybe humans would make you stay in jail for 6 months for your sin. God makes you stay for an eternity.

The laws in the bible are not the perfect moral authority. I just wrote a hubpage on how the bible condones slavery.


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

Living your life as a good person will not get you into heaven. No one is good enough to get into heaven, because we all sin.

How do we know what is right of wrong if not the laws of our creator?


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Titen-Sxull 2 years ago from back in the lab again

@spease

Why exactly would ANYONE want to get into Heaven? An eternal imprisoned existence of bowing before some celestial dictator, the same dictator who is burning billions in a lake of fiery torment? No thanks.

Even if you could look past the idea that you are meant to now worship, eternally, the monstrous being that is cooking your fellow humans (some of them BOUND to be loved-ones and family members) you would still be trapped there for eternity, which would get boring and become its own Hell pretty damn fast.


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The Agnostic 2 years ago

I don't think sin is possible because we don't have free will. I wrote a hubpage on this.

Our ideas of right an wrong evolved over time. This is why in the Old Testament killing homosexuals and mass genocide was okay but in the New Testament our ideas evolved and we decided these things were wrong. This is why slavery is condoned in the New Testament and in the 19th century we decided it was wrong.


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SwordofManticorE 2 years ago from Burlington

Evangelicals promote the turn or burn doctrine because they think this is their image of God when in fact they worship something else and it is found in scripture.

Dan 3:1 3 King Nebuchadnezzar made an image of gold, sixty cubits high and six cubits wide,[a] and set it up on the plain of Dura in the province of Babylon. 2 He then summoned the satraps, prefects, governors, advisers, treasurers, judges, magistrates and all the other provincial officials to come to the dedication of the image he had set up. 3 So the satraps, prefects, governors, advisers, treasurers, judges, magistrates and all the other provincial officials assembled for the dedication of the image that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up, and they stood before it.

4 Then the herald loudly proclaimed, “Nations and peoples of every language, this is what you are commanded to do: 5 As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up. 6 Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace.”

Such people believe in this image because time and time again, they have shown us that they are not worthy of the real living God's love. They make themselves worthless and like to make others feel the same way when in fact, God wants you to feel you are worth ever bit of His love. These institutionalized people are brained washed and will continue to believe in the nightmare as long as they defend it.


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The Agnostic 2 years ago

I don't believe in sin. You should check out my free will hubpage.

Our ideas of right and wrong evolved. This is easily seen in the bible itself. Genocide and killing adulterers and homosexuals was incouraged in Old Testament law. Human morality evolved and these things are not permitted in the New Testament. Slavery is allowed in the New Testament but is now illegal. Morality evolved.


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

Even if you don't believe in something, doesn't make it not true.

The ideas of right and wrong for men have evolved, read the 10 commandments God gave to Moses, those have not changed. Mans morality has evolved, but that doesn't make it right. Murder was not ok in the Old Testament,even though it was done alot, as it is now, but it's still not ok to murder. Slavery has existed probably since man existed and it still does today, there are still people who own people, and it is wrong.


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

You are looking at this from the wrong perspective. Think of heaven as the perfect place, no war, no sickness, no crime, no hate. We can not even imagine what we will be doing. We will not get bored. I want to have all my friends and family with me in Heaven. If you don't choose Heaven, Hell is the other option, I think that would be much worse.


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

You stopped before you got to the point of the story. When they didn't bow down because the wouldn't worship the image of the king, they were thrown into the blazing furnace and were protected by God from the fire, showing that God was much more powerful than Nebuchadnezzar would ever be.

Everyone is worthy of God's love, all they have to do is accept it.


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SwordofManticorE 2 years ago from Burlington

Just because you believe in hell doesn't make it real either. The opposite of heaven is here on earth, not your pagan hell. As for your understanding of Dan 3, you are right. Yet you still worship this image only to avoid being burned.


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The Agnostic 2 years ago

Anyone could have written the Ten Commandments they tell us almost nothing of morality. I would have been impressed if they said 1. Slavery is wrong 2. Judge people not by their sex or skin color etc... Do not kill the ingroup is a rule in every civilization since the dawn of time.

Morality however is not the question of the hub. I still do not understand why an all-loving and all-merciful god can send his people to suffer for eternity in hell. This is not just.


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

God's people are the ones that follow and believe in him, not the ones that don't. He is not sending his people to suffer in Hell, that is the choice of the people who do not believe in him.

Look at it from my point of view for a minute. If you believed in God and you followed him as the supreme being who created everything, and he set out a group of laws that we were all to follow, yet many people didn't follow the laws, what would be just to do? Not let them spend eternity in paradise because they chose not to. Just like the laws of Man, if you break them, there are consequences.

It is all about being just, the big difference between God and mans laws is that God will forgive us for breaking his laws, and Jesus paid the price for all our sins, if we want it.


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joecseko 2 years ago from New York, USA, Earth

I'm so happy that you know all about God's intentions.

If I believed in God I would surely have my head examined. The Bible is a ridiculous collection of stories that never happened. Science has even disproved some of what the Bible catalogues.

When will people realize that these are METAPHORICAL STORIES, and not to be interpreted otherwise?


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

If you believed in God, you would not have your head examined because you believe in God. What evidence do you have that the stories in the Bible never happened?

Much of what science now believes was mentioned in the Bible, long before scientists believed it to be true. Read my hub about the science of the Bible." http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/The-scienc..."


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SwordofManticorE 2 years ago from Burlington

@spease, You said God provided a way out of hell. He created hell as well as mankind, and it is His responsibility to save us all. If just one ends up in your pagan hell, Christ is the loser (John 6:39).


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

That is correct, Jesus came to earth to save us all, by being crucified on the cross to pay for our sins, but we have a choice, we do not have to choose to be saved, we all have that option if we accept it.


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SwordofManticorE 2 years ago from Burlington

So Christ came to pay for the sins of the world, yet you are telling me He wont get what He paid for. He was ripped off.


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spease 2 years ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

Like I said, it's a gift, all we have to do is accept it. He will get millions to accept it and we will all be grateful.

It's similar to what most parents do when raising their children, you teach them right and wrong, and what your values are, but they have a choice once they are on their own. If they choose to make bad decisions, they will have to suffer the consequences of those decisions.


Hell N0 21 months ago

I have utterly destroyed any and all notion of the christian hell in my hubs. The doctrin is unscriptural and evil heresy.


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spease 21 months ago from Minneapolis Mn Author

You may have destroyed it in your mind, but you are wrong. Because you don't believe it does not mean it isn't true.

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