End Time Prophecy -One Year = One Day? NOT!

Description of earthly/angelic time line

How do Christians determine when prophesy speaks of a time period; When does A day equal a year and when does  30 days (a month) equals  30 days (a month)? Wouldn't 30 days be 30 years?

In 538 BC Gabriel said that they were going to kill the Messiah after 62 weeks from the time that the commandment came forth to rebuild Jerusalem.
62 weeks is 434 days. So if a day equals a year this would be 434 years.  That would mean that the commandment to build Jerusalem came forth around 4o4 BC.

How can this be?  Around 450AD the streets and the walls around the city were finished. Why would the commandment go forth to do something that had been done many decades before?
The City began it's restoration shortly after Cyrus decreeded that the Hebrews be free to return to Jerusalem in 139 BC and build God a house in Jerusalem.

The question is when did the commandment go forth to build Jerusalem?
If a day = a day then the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem went forth while Jesus was walking the earth.
If a day = a year the commandment came forth to build Jerusalem not only after the city was completed but the streets were finished and the walls around the city was completed.
This really is a perplexing problem?

How do Christians determine when prophesy speaks of a time period; When does A day equal a year and when does  30 days (a month) equal  30 days (a month)? Wouldn't 30 days be 30 years?

In 538 BC Gabriel said that they were going to kill the Messiah after 62 weeks from the time that the commandment came forth to rebuild Jerusalem.
62 weeks is 434 days. So if a day equals a year this would be 434 years.  That would mean that the commandment to build Jerusalem came forth around 4o4 BC.

How can this be?  Around 450 AD the streets and the walls around the city were finished. Why would the commandment go forth to do something that had been done many decades before?
The City began it's restoration shortly after Cyrus decreeded that the Hebrews be free to return to Jerusalem in 139 BC and build God a house in Jerusalem.

The question is when did the commandment go forth to build Jerusalem?
If a day = a day then the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem went forth while Jesus was walking the earth. Wh know that this can not be correct.
If a day = a year the commandment came forth to build Jerusalem around 404 BC which was about fifty years after the walls around the city was completed. .
This really is a perplexing problem?

And a very important one.

There are hundreds of thousands of books written on the subject of end time prophesy. All of them that I have ever read or listened to agree on one misconception - the most believed, most damaging, misinterpretation of end time prophesy ever told. When this one single error is corrected the mystery of end time prophesy is removed.                                                                                                                                    A prophetic day equals a year of earth time?. This last statement simply is not biblically correct.

This single truth that removes the mystery of end time prophesy lies in the comparison of earthly and prophetic time. Scholars and theologians through the ages believed and taught this untruth. Scholars teach that a prophetic day is equal to a year on earth. Where do they get this idea?

One place is in the book of Ezekiel. The Lord told Ezekiel to remain lying on his side for seventy consecutive days. Each day shall represent a year that Jerusalem will be desolate. This verse does not compare the earthly time line with prophetic time line. One earth day represent one earth year. The Lord could have as easily said for Ezekiel, in this instance, to eat seventy apples and each apple shall represent a year that Jerusalem shall be desolate. This would not say that an apple equals a year. In this instance, each day that Ezekiel lays on his side represents a year that Jerusalem shall be desolate. There is no reason to believe that the Lord is making a comparison between earthly time and heavenly time in this verse.

Gabriel told Daniel that it shall be 62 weeks and they shall kill the Messiah, and that it shall be 69 weeks unto the Messiah the Prince. Their Messiah came and he was crucified in 26, 28 or 30 AD. The 62 weeks were fulfilled and many years have passed since his crucifiction. The people were questioning Paul as to why it was taking so long, for Jesus to return as he said that he would. Paul then told the people that a year for us is like a day to the Lord.

That is another reason for the misconception. A day for the Lord is kind of like, or similar to, a year for us. I intend to prove to you that according to the Lords messenger angel (Gabriel) that a prophetic day is equal to approx. 1.3 of our years. Paul was speaking in general terms when he said a day on earth is as a year to the Lord. What would they have thought if he had said that a day for the Lord is as 1.3 years on earth. Both statements would have made the same point in conversation.

If a day was equal to a year, 1260 days would be equal to 1260 years. However if a day is equal to 1.3 years on earth, 1260 days would be approx 1643 years. This error makes interpretation of prophesy impossible. A week would be approx 9.13 years not 7 years A time, times and an half = 1290 days = 184.4 weeks or 1685 of our years, not 1290 years.                A time = 52 prophetic weeks or 480 of our years. A season is 13 weeks = 119 of our years.

I will mention, as an interesting note, that according to the Generations of Adam as written in Genesis, 1661 years passed from the creation of Adam unto The Flood. Slightly longer than Forty two months.

My understanding of the definition of prophetic time is, …The Lord tells Gabriel to give a message to Daniel. The Lord tells the message to Gabriel in angelic terms that Gabriel is familiar with, and Gabriel understands and can deliver exactly as given. Gabriel then delivers the Lord's message exactly as the Lord had stated, translating nothing. As we endeavor to understand this fact when reading end time prophesy the “mystery” will be replaced with understanding.

I will now explain how I have arived at the conclusion that a week = approx 9.13 years

Daniel 1:1 "In the first year of Darius … appointed king over the realm of the Chaldean's. (538 BC) Daniel started praying and making supplications (v 3) At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth (9:25) From the time that the commandment comes forth (538BC) it shall be 62 weeks and then they shall cut off or kill the messiah. In 26, 28,30 or 33 AD this was fulfilled. (Theologians can not agree upon what year that the crucifixion actually took place) Gabriel described this 564, 566, 568 or 571 years as being 62 weeks. Therefore 62 weeks must be the same period of time as 564 to 571 of our years. Spoken straight out of the Angel’s mouth. To try to interpret the meaning of the message in such of a way as to change the obvious meaning is in error.

And to build a belief system upon this error alone will cause mass confusion among Christians. This error has been taught ever since the end time prophesy have been discussed. When I first came to this conclusion, I had my doubts. I could not imagine why I had never heard this concept before. So I decided to apply this new equation every time an angel made a reference of time, before a prophesy is to come to fulfillment. The results were amazing. Each time that my question was answered, other questions would be created. Before long I discovered that my entire belief system had been built upon many false interpretations that were created in an effort to validate the first false interpretation.

Let us plunge forward and see what we find when this equation of end time prophesy is applied. A simple exercise before we simply disregard completely the possibility of any truth to this concept. Why not just consider the possibility? You may be afraid to consider that possibility. It will change the way you will look at many things when it is found to be correct.

Rev Will 7 years ago from brooklyn ny

Does no one get that God made it so that humans would never get it worked out before he came in his Glory. I preach that everytime we put God in a Box, we look out of the box at God.

Rev Will

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Gabriel came to Daniel to give him skill and understanding (Dan. 9:22) and Daniel relayed this message. Gabriel said (9:25) "Know therefore and understand....." There some things that God does want for us to KNOW and UNDERSTAND. This message is one of those things.

Hxprof 7 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

Many have tried to pin down the timing of last days and end of the age events. The seventy weeks of years is a good starting point, but the Jewish calendar is complex, and this has caused many to miscalculate. The final coming of Christ is to occur as He indicates in Matthew 24. Though we can get a pretty good idea of the approximate timing of Christ's return, we can't know the date and the hour as only God knows that. Further, God can lengthen time or shorten it as He sees fit. So yes, there are things God wants us to know with certainty, and there are things He expects us to be prepared for....Christ mentions the season with the fig tree-"you'll know summer is near" and further, "when these things begin to happen, raise your heads and look up, for your redemption is near". God wants us to have an idea of what's happening-He wants us to know when important things are close at hand, and He expects us to study His word for that understanding.

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

To Hproof thank you for your comment ... Yes the hebrew calender is complex and some what lost to understanding. We agree that the time of the "Last time of indignation" is to be unknown to us all. All that can be achieved by following the timeline of one week = approx 9.16 of our years is to determine when the forty two months are fulfilled for the beast that John saw rise up out of the sea. That beast is given 42 months to blaspheme the Lord. If forty two months does = approx. 1649 earthly years, Now, just for the sake of speculation let us hypotheize that the 42 months were fulfilled this year. 1649 years ago was 360 AD. What was happening in the world around this time. How many orginizations were around back then that are still around today?How many of those organizations could be said to have been blaspheming the Lord. Secondly in Matt. 24:3 ...the deciples came unto him PRIVATELY !!! Mark 13:3 ....Peter, James, and John, and Andrew ask him privately, Tell us when shall these things be? And Jesus answered them privately, "Take lest any man decieve YOU" Imagine for a minute that Jesus were to come to YOU privately and tell you, when YOU hear of wars, v7, but take heed to YOURSELVES v9, but when they shall lead YOU, and deliver YOU up, but when ye shall see the abomination, spoken of by Daniel... You get the point. If this was a PRIVATE conversation that tha Lord Jesus Christ had dad with you today, and YOU wrote this PRIVATE conversation down for others to read. and two thousand years later someone found it and speculates that these things have not happened yet???? The words PRIVATE conversation was written twice for a very important reason. The tribulation that Jesus was spealing of in these chapters were Private. Peter James John and andrew ACTUALLY SAW the fulfillment of Jesus's words. They lived it as Jesus said that THEY would. Mark 13:13 Verily I say unto YOU , that THIS generation shall not pass till all these things be done.

Sciantel 7 years ago

One thousand years is as a day to the Lord and a day to the Lord is as one thousand years on Earth, not a year. Read the Bible. Jesus said the day He comes back even He don't know for sure. Only God the Father does and He has not revealed to anyone the exact day or time. Be prepared though for His return to be any moment.

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Dear Sciantel. Thank you for your coment. When I am reading my bible I pay close attention as to who is saying the things that I read, and who they are saying it to. If one of the apossles are interpretating something that they have heard, I try to believe it. If the apossle is "quoting" the teacher (Jesus Christ). I believe that with all sertainty. That statement will always trump the interpretation of the apostle. The apostle is the student and sometimes falls short of the complete, absolute truth of the teacher. As written is Genessis, The Lord GOD IS the beginning and IS the end, he is not caught up into the timeframe that he established. However he has set in motion a series of events that he has established a time frame for. And he has given us a glimpse of his agenda. These prophesies are governed by a constant measurement of time that he has established for his creation to live by. He has also given us a general idea as to when these things are to happen. Gabriel came to Daniel to to give hin skill and understanding! Daniel understood the time line! Daniel shared that timeline with us. We then INTERPRET the truth right out of the simply explained, simply put wisdom of God. If we could stop relying upon our own wisdom and simply understand the message as written. the confusion will go away.

Sciantel 7 years ago

When do you suppose the end will come? Do you believe the Rapture will be soon?

jerami 7 years ago

We must first define what the end is. The end of the 42 months that the beast is given to blaspheme the Lord should come to conclusion at some time between now and not any later that 2028. 42 months is mathmatically the same as 1260 days. If I tell my daughter that I will buy a car for her in 1260 days she will be expecting to receive the keys in 1260 days, however if I had said 42 months she might expect to get the keys a week earlier or a week later than 1260 days. The 42 months is more of an approximation of time while the 1260 days are more exact. The beast will come to its end at some time between now and no later than 2028. I believe sooner than later. The time of the Rapture is another subject. I believe that that occurred in the second century.

Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

All I have to say is, sometimes a day means a day in the Bible. Otherwise, Jesus would have been in the tomb 3.9 years. Because we are told, not only the number of days, but then again the number of months, I think it is literally earthly time. My opinion, of course. God bless.

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Thank you for this coment. I have enjoyed reading what I have read of your work.   When John was in the spirit, an angel showed him, in a vision that the beast with seven heads and ten crowns, was given 42 months to blaspheme the Lord. This 42 months could not be an earthly reference of time. Some length of time, after the 42 months had begun, Satan gave his power to the beast and then, was bound in the bottomless pit for a thousand years, and after the 1000 years he is loosed for a little season. After he is released, the dragon, and The Beast, and The False prophet are seen in the Euphrates river, when the sixth bowl is poured out ( Rev 16:12).  Three unclean spirits are seen going out of their mouths to gather together the kings of the earth to the battle of Armageddon.  The point of intrest here is that a thousand earth years are contained within the 42 prophetic months. When Jesus (the man) was speaking to his disciples about being in the grave as Jonah was, in the belly of the whale for three days and three nights he was certainly referring to earthly days. How do we know when a verse is referring to the angelic reference or when it is referring to earthly time?  An hour,day,week and month can be either earthly or angelic. The term, a year, is not an angelic term. A year is 52 earthly weeks. 52 angelic weeks are referred to as  "a time". I believe that in a vision, when an angel makes a reference to a length of time he is using the prophetic time line. God gives a message to his angel to deliver. God will be using angelic references to ensure that the angel understands the message  correctly. The angel delivers the message exactly as it was given to him.  When the Lord was speaking to a human ( Elijaha, Samuel etc.), he used earthly references. When the Lord Jesus was speaking to a human, he was using human references. I believe these things to be true, with all of my heart.

Galaxy Gazer 7 years ago

Hi There I have to state that Mark 13 v 32 says it all really "but of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven not the son, but only the Father"

So Guess away you don't know anymore that the next person only God knows!! All we can do is watch for the signs for his coming again! But you, I or no scientist will ever know the day!!!

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

(v30) Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass till all these things be done but of the day and hour knoweth no man, no , not even the angels which are in heaven, neither the son, but the father. These two verses are actually one statement. Two verses one statement. The generation he spoke of is the generation that Peter, James, John and Andrew were members of. for it was a PRIVATE conversation to those four.

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I didn't mean to give such a short answer, Hard long day. I'm new to all of this, I am also a newly discovered Historist.(self awarness).I didn't even know that I had a category. I just thought that I had a different openion than most people. The reason for this,I think? is that "the first time that I ever read the New testament from start to finish", I skipped over every thing that wasn't written in red. ( what Jeus said) This is what I built my belief system upon. Everything that I learned and kept that didn't corrupt what he said. , I built upon that foundation

if it fit.

If the Gloves Don't, Fit you Must Aquit.

Galaxy Gazer 7 years ago

Hi There! Have you pondered on the whole text which starts from verse 5 Coz I have and my question is this?? Ok yes In v 30, it speaks of a generation but is that generation the one that he is speaking to at that point or the one that will see the signs and prophesies coming to pass that is written in the chapter - It does not necessarily mean that particular generation being spoken to at that point in that time is the generation which he is talking about, could it could not mean the generation that see the signs of Christs coming again that see all what is written biblically and prophesied come to pass which he is talking about?? Just a thought!!!!

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Preachers teach that Jesus is talking to some generation in the future that these prophesy come to fulfillment in. However; 13:3 states that this is a PRIVATE conversation with Peter, James, John and Andrew. Matt. 24:3 states that this was a PRIVATE conversation with the disciples. This word PRIVATE conversation should answer your Question. Read these verses keeping this in mind and make up your own mind. In Mark 14:62 Jesus was talking to the high priest that was standing right in front of him when he said "I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven".

fierycj 7 years ago from The Fiery Heart of Africa

I dont agree on a hell of a lot of things you say, especially in the forums. But I see eye to eye with you on the prophetic day equalling one earthly year. I've often said that. However, the issue of prophetic timeline will forever remain a baffle to us, mortals. I believe God made it so, to keep us baffled. Why? Cos prophecy, is what it is, an analogy, a similitude of a some supernatural reality. Therefore the moment we start to use human laws and standards to decipher them, the moment we start to lose our way. Thanks.

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I'm not sure if you said we agree or not. The hypothesis stated in this hub is that a day ='s approx 1.3 years. If this is true and I believe that it is. we should examine prophesy to see if it fits. I have been doing just that for the past 6 years. All of the pieces seemed to fit like in a jigsaw puzzle. I didn't like what I discovered. It is not a pretty picture. Just because I do not like the outcome does not mean that I can interpret away the truth creating an outcome that I like.

Wealthmadehealthy 7 years ago from Somewhere in the Lone Star State

What an interesting debate. And so many issues to discuss in it..., as to when the Lord will come again, the prophecies are being fulfilled. As many above me have said, only the Lord knoweth when He will come, and there is no mystery to the fact that we must all believe on His Son. I have never been consumed with the timing of it all, only that I tried in the best manner I was able to follow His Word in this way, no matter when He comes again, hopefully I will be ready to receive Him....we all should be more consumed with His laws-sorry, this has nothing to do with the way the days and years are measured...Good hub...

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I agree with you about what is really important, Salvation, following Gods word. Why I believe that it is important concerning the timeline comparison is that if we can understand it, THE MYSTERY is revealed. All of prophesy lines up like a row of ducks. Jesus said that concerning these things that he was discussing, "this generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled but no one knows the day or hour". Why does the people have to interpret the truth right out of the words coming out of Christ mouth. John saw religiosity rising up out of the sea, and it worships itself. God has an individual relationship with each one of us. The bible is truth the way we interpret it and twist it to serve our own purpose is not. Gabriel gave us this timeline for a reason. 62 weeks =s approx. 564, 566, or 568 years. This was important or it would not have been included in Gabriel's message. Applying it reveals many misinterpretations.

tantrum 7 years ago from Tropic of Capricorn

Numbers and date don't mean a thing. The actions are the ones who will tell you when the end comes

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I AGREE ALSO IT IS NOT HOW LONG WE ARE HERE BUT WHAT WE DO WHILE WE ARE HERE

mikeq107 7 years ago

If I were Satan I would get people to focus on issues like this instead of areal realtionship with God. After all weather the day is today, next month , it really des not mater..what maters is are you doing the last thing the holy spirit told you, that simple...

have agreat week

Mike :0)

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I agree that it is not important when the end comes EXCEPT for the fact that to understand the time lines allows us to recognise the Beast and false prophet, and to realize that the SIGNS that we are taught to watch for are not going to happen that way. The temple being built in Jerusalem, a one world government, one world religion simply is not what scripture actually says. At least that is my opinion after studying this time line comparison; and all of the ramifications that arise out of it. If the battle of Armageddon happens tomorrow, then this timeline thingie would have been correct. If we can believed that Gabriel was telling the truth, then interpretations that have been taught for hundreds of years are incorrect. That is all that I am saying. Hope you have a great Labor Day weekend and thanks for your comment.

Kimberly Bunch 7 years ago from EAST WENATCHEE

Interesting Hub! Here's one that might help: http://hubpages.com/hub/WalkwithGod

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

Thank you. It did help. good stuff!

thecatholicexpert 7 years ago

This is a very interesting hub I haven't seen many with this topic and I'm glad you posted it. The link posted by Kimberly Bunch was very helpful too. God bless!

Jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx Author

I believe that this hub is the first step to a more complete understanding of scripture And thank you for reading it and for your comment.

cindyleedavis 6 years ago from cindyloudavis@hotmail.com

If you are correct in your conclusion, how come I have never read any thing similar or the same even as your conclusion.

How come this hasn't come up in the pulpit? I think it would cause a panic in people if we knew the time. God knows...

Good Hub!

Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

This is such a simple yet complex subject. 2Peter 1:20 states that prophesy in scripture has no personal interpretation. Yet everyone does it. The Church has been doin it for over 1600 years, it has become acceptable for everyone to have their own interpretation. The truth has been hidden in plain sight under this mountain of 1000's of interpretations. Remember that this changes nothing concerning our salvation. That is what is important.

Holy Hunter 6 years ago

you realize that the more you dig around and the more you question faith, the more you stagger down the narrow path to heaven? People are never going to figure out this out because God make it complex for a reason.but no, people have investigate and question and find sceintific BS and in the end.....it's still a theory that mortals want to ponder about.

Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

Holly; Thank you for your comment. It is a narrow path to heaven.But what I believe is that the vast multitudes of Interpretations have given this path the appearance of being a wide path. Many people that do not investigate their faith will find in the end that they have not been on the path at all. It was an interpretation or counterfeit truth. The narrow path that you speak of in the uninterpreted truth as originally written in scripture. Many have interpreted this truth, changing the true words of god making it seem to be easier to walk upon. This is an illusion that Satan wants for us to follow. God told us to investigate, study his word not someone else's interpretation of his truth.

I have no boubts that Jesus Christ is my saveior.

The diversity of interpretations have creaded conflict amongst ourselves. Private interpretation is a bad thing.

2Peter 1:20

Disappearinghead 6 years ago from Wales, UK

Hi Jerami. I don't understand why you've had so many negative comments here. Are we not all called to study the scriptures to show ourselves as one approved? Ultimately there will be a single truth that we can come to understand by logical methodlogical study.

For people to say that there are mysteries we will not undertand because God is hiding them or they are just too difficult is nothing more than a cop out from putting in the commitment to study themselves. I do not believe for a minute that God makes anything complex as Jesus instructed us to come as little children who by their very nature a simple.

Keep on studying please and share with us what you find. As for me, I shall procede to you next installment.

Jerami 6 years ago from Houston tx Author

Again thanks for stopping and reading my stuff. All opinions are always welcome.

I do understand the negative comments; for people do not want to believe that they have been decieved.

It hurts deep down in side to begin doubting your those things that we have been taught.

Shahid Bukhari 5 years ago from My Awareness in Being.

The Second ... and the Hour, of the Day, Hath been Stated in all the Scriptures ... Only The Ordainer Knows when, is it to Be !

To allude, after occurrence ... as Prophesy, is wrong.

There will not be a second, an hour or a day after ... The Day, we have all been Warned of.

Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

Shahid Bukhari

Thank you for leaving this comment.

I believe that there will always be more understanding in scriptures than will ever be found.

I also believe that this time equation is one o those things that has been overlooked for too long.

just_curious 5 years ago

Loved your article. Very informative. I don't get prophesy and it is always nice to read an explanation that is easy to follow. Good job.

RichJ 5 years ago

It is fairly clear to me that God gave us prophecy not so that we could tell the future, but so that we could see that He knows the future, rarely is it give so that we know and exact date. But an example of that is in Danie's prophecy of the 7 weeks and 3 score and 2 weeks (69 weeks) from the going forth of the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem. Jesus held the "Jews" responsible for knowing the exact time of his "visitation." (Luke 19:44) because it was predicted in Daniel. See the book "The Coming Prince" by Sir Robert Anderson. Prophecy is the "more sure word" referred to by Peter.

Jerami 5 years ago from Houston tx Author

Thanks for taking the time to read this and posting this comment.

I understand Luke 19:44 to be saying that Jesus wasn’t going to tell them, When these things will be, thus making it more likely to come to fulfillment and they be caught unaware when it does.

It seems to me that the Hebrews who were studying the prophesy were expecting their Messiah during the reign of the 14th Emperor (king) of the fourth beast (kingdom)

(There shall be 10 kings and a king will rise up after the ten replacing three. The 14th ?

I don't remember now; I think it was the 3rd or 4th king of the fourth kingdom that was in power when Jesus appeared upon the scene. The Hebrew priest interpreted prophesy wrong; in a number of ways and this was one of them.

Jesus appeared about 10 emperors before they were expecting him. At least that is the way I understand it.