Escatology - Whatever

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eschatology

1 : a branch of theology concerned with the final events in the history of the world or of humankind
2 : a belief concerning death, the end of the world, or the ultimate destiny of humankind;specifically : any of various Christian doctrines concerning the Second Coming, the resurrection of the dead, or the Last Judgment

The end is near?

When I was a young lad I often wandered Oxford Street  in Central London, during my lunch hour to window shop, and without fail I would see this nutter with a sandwich board declaring 'The End is Near' in huge letters, with 'Repent NOW' carefully positioned underneath.

Hand written and lacking in marketing punch, but effective, because 35 years later I still remember his sign, and 25 years later I heeded his warning.

The real embarrassment was, I found out he was a family member!

So, when I came to faith; after I had been through my 'I only want to read the red letter bit' phase, and once I had gone through my 'fundamentalist, probationist, bible thumper' stage, I finally got to my 'eschatology - what's that mean' stage.


Don't worry, God wins!

But before I got anywhere near studying eschatology, I had to get past all the crazy (to a new believer) things that the church 'laid on me'

There are (apparently) 30,000+ Christian denominations, all with their separate doctrines, which they are 100% sure are correct, and which they are prepared to disassociate from anyone who believes differently to them over.

No wonder people leave churches screaming 'hypocrites' - they get immunised against Christ by the constant back biting and arguments between believers.

Fortunately I was able to watch with mild amusement whilst these battles over doctrines went on, with scripture volleys flying overhead and bibles drawn at dawn on the church lawn.

"What on earth is this all about?" I asked God, and He replied "Don't worry, if you read the end of the book, I WIN" - OK forget the audible words bit, but it was clear to me that He was telling me something important, like.... don't sweat the small stuff.

Folk in churches all believe the same thing

I gotta tell you, when I was first in a church it was all I could do to stay sociable let alone 'love' all these people, and the politics.... just don't let's discuss the politics, and the 'correctness'.

I could see that stopping reading tarot cards was required, likewise the rune stones and biorhythm calculator (very useful in Satan's world for timing events correctly).

Divination was an obvious NO NO amongst other congregationalists, and thankfully God gave me discernment and words of knowledge to replace that.

Stopping smoking I could accept as needed, especially as I only used tobacco to roll joints with, and drinking a bottle of vodka a day seemed prudent to cease doing.

Fornication and Lust were more tricky areas to repent of..... I digress again!

Non Essentials... (yeah right)

Pretty soon when you join any church you will come to be taught their particular take on various 'non essentials' that you'd better believe in, or leave.

There will be no point in trying to show them they are in error, because they decided they were correct when the original leader laid out that which he was 100% sure God had told him, and the first of the faithful gathered around his ministry.

Many churchgoers have no idea WHY they believe what they say they believe.

The 'non essentials' (that you'd better believe in) will normally contain some of the following items in my little quiz...:


Let's do a little test...

What is THE most important thing to agree on?

  • Tithing
  • Once saved always saved
  • Probationism (as in you could lose your salvation)
  • Pre Tribulation Rapture (or calling away dependent upon who they are)
  • Pre Wrath Rapture
  • Post Tribulation Rapture
  • Sunday worship
  • Saturday worship
  • Infant Baptism is acceptable
  • Infant Baptism is a waste of time
  • Baptism is essential
  • We don't baptise folk
See results without voting

The weather forecast....

The weather forecast (in my world) refers to Matthew 24, which is a hinge upon which most eschatologists will view one way or the other, and which colours their personal take on eschatology.

For me it was a defining text in building my faith, scripture that seemed to be fulfilled more each day as I watched the news, hence I call it my 'weather forecast' because it tell me what each day will bring.

Wars...and rumours of wars
Wars...and rumours of wars
nation rising against nation....
nation rising against nation....
....famines....
....famines....
....and earthquakes (more than ever before in this century)
....and earthquakes (more than ever before in this century)
...in diverse (various) places....
...in diverse (various) places....
Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death....
Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death....
....and you will be hated by all nations because of me.
....and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

Wars and rumours of wars...

Matthew 24: 3-25

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.

For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, and will deceive many.

You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed.

Such things must happen, but the end is still to come.

Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.

There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.

All these are the beginning of birth pains.

Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.

At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.

And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,'spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand - then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house.

Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak.

How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers!

Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.

For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again.

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it.

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.

See, I have told you ahead of time.

Cheerful stuff huh!

But nobody can deny that these things are happening.

Now you could say that these things have always been happening, and to a degree you would be correct, except that now is the only point in time when ALL these things have been happening at the same time.


....there shall be a time of trouble....
....there shall be a time of trouble....
....such as never was since there was a nation....
....such as never was since there was a nation....
....even to that same time....
....even to that same time....
...and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
...and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
....shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end....
....shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end....
....many shall run to and fro....
....many shall run to and fro....
...., and knowledge shall be increased.
...., and knowledge shall be increased.

....and knowledge shall be increased.

Another indicator of our position in time would be the fact that 500 years before Matthew was reporting Jesus's prophesy, Daniel an Old Covenant prophet was telling us more indicators to look out for when studying the end of the age...

Daniel 12

And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

Whatever...

Guess you may be wondering about the whatever part of the title, well it does figure in eschatology, because it's how the world views Christ, His end times prophesies and those of us who try to tell a rapidly dying world where things went wrong, and the reply we get is normally....

Yeah, whatever

Well the 'whatever' will be kinda tough to experience, but more of that in the next section.

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9 comments

JimLow 6 years ago

Aguasilver,

I too have heard the old "I've been hearing that about the end times, all my life but nothing has happened!" The thing is however, that despite these type views, each and every day that passes, brings us closer to the fulfillment of the remaining end-time prophecies and the return of Jesus Christ.

I also do not hold to a denomination, I am "Christian" but do have family members who are strongly associated with them and in fact some who pastor denominational churches.

Thankfully, I have found that many fundamental churches agree on the major points, namely that there is salvation in Jesus Christ! Regardless of some disagreements on the finer-points we are still of the same body if we're in-Christ. (I Cor 12:17)

Wonderful Hub you've given us!


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Thanks Jim, we try, we try....

Maybe one day, not too late, they will listen!


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TheLoanConsultant 6 years ago from Orange County

Wow! This is an excellent hub. I'm surprised more people haven't commented on it. I noticed a lot of speculation in the Church regarding these matters. I don't mind a little speculation for the sake of conversation, but I don't understand why some people speculate about topics the bible is crystal clear on. I liked the Evangometer! Lol! That would be funny if each church had one and made new members walk under it to test their hunger for God!


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi LoanConsultant, just rate it up amigo... I always thought this was worth more than it got read!

John


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Wesman Todd Shaw 4 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

You know, when I finally got away from the church that I was brought up in, only then did I realize that....most Christians didn't believe that some magical bath saved a soul for all eternity.

Boy was I relieved!


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Wesman, me too, it's a whole lot more than that!

Thanks for the read, this one was 20 months old and I had next to no readers then, so I thought it worth posting out to my newer followers again!


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skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

aquasilver Thank you for a most powerful heartfelt Holy Spirit truth filled hub of love. I am touched by the writing. You truly have a gift and although you did not have many readers or comments first go there is NO MISTAKE this has been written. OUR Sovereign Gods hand are on the words. It is HIS WORD HIS WORLD AND He Almighty has all power. IAM. Jesus is returning and soon. As never before have we seen trials, tribulations and persecutions, famine, illness, a falling away in Government and Economy as in this generation. The natural dusters and i wicked evil ways and a falling away of the Church. The Body of Christ has much work to do and Gods hand is on us. Keep on quicksilver my brother. Your are mighty for our Lord and Saviour. Keep pressing forward. I know you will Phil 4:13. I have helped this to move out a bit linking all over. As led by the Spirit of God. He will send the readers HIS timing perfect. You know i have a couple of what I believe are profound hubs ( hmmm not by my ABILITY by the Power of the Holy Spirit ) and they were not received like I thought. I know little because Gods is in charge. He will lead the readers.

It is not easy for me at times to walk the salvation journey. Lest my pride get all out of sorts. Praise God I am a wretched sinner saved by grace in the Faith of Jesus Christ. I do not deserve the bed I sit on but our Father forgives and loves and has His Holy Hand on HIS Children. We are being shaped and pruned up. All Glory to God.

I like the pictures. Moving. I also like how you laid out Matt 24 The Spirit was stirring my heart to deeper understanding. God is so amazing love. We will never comprehend on this side of Heaven His power and love nor understand it. I am grateful I came over!! Thank You for hearing, acting and reposting. ( - ; Love ya brother. In Christ your sista.


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lone77star 4 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Wow, John! Thanks for dusting this off and spreading the word. Love it when a plan comes together like this.


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

It's all in there somewhere!

Maybe I will dust some more off!

Thanks Carl.

John

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