God or the Devil?

Show me the difference between the Devil and God

there is no definition to the real truth of right and wrong
there is no definition to the real truth of right and wrong | Source
Devil's Influence? Or God's gift?
Devil's Influence? Or God's gift? | Source
where does the path lead
where does the path lead | Source
Where does the Devil enter our lives-and if God knows the Devil is there, why does he not protect us?
Where does the Devil enter our lives-and if God knows the Devil is there, why does he not protect us? | Source
and God shall protect his children? or punish them for the Devil's influence?
and God shall protect his children? or punish them for the Devil's influence? | Source

Is it God vs the Devil or God side by side with the Devil?

Why is it that when something horrible happens we blame the Devil-and when something beneficial or appealing happens we credit God? If we are headed down the ‘wrong’ path in our lives-people say things like, ‘The devil is influencing their judgment’- and the question is asked how to release them from the devils grip and bring them back to God. For example-Drugs. When a human being becomes addicted to a drug-they are not at fault, nor are Jesus or God? It is said that the Devil has taken control and is now in charge or this persons decisions. There is even a Gary Allen Song- that refers to drugs as the Devils Candy. I like the song-but not so much the assumption that with every bad situation or decision the blame is on the Devil. So who is to blame when that addict dies from a drug overdose? The devil-or is that God freeing that person from the Devil and bringing them up to Heaven to stand beside him?

How about this interpretation of the same situation? A man who has a wife and 4 children-is now the sole provider for his family-after his wife has been laid off. He takes the initiative and begins working longer hours and takes on more responsibility to earn a raise. He is introduced to methamphetamines-that allow him to stay up and work these longer hours with ease. He starts off doing a little here a little there-and ends up needing it just to have the capability of getting out of bed in the morning. For a time-his work performance and relationship with his family are not affected, but after 6 months of frequent use-things begin to change. He is irritated more easily-gets side tracked often- has a difficult time finishing tasks- becomes extremely unreliable. His wife is now complaining-and children don’t understand why daddy no longer has time for them. He has been showing up late to work-and when he finally does arrive- fiddles with a number of things before doing something productive. His employer wonders why a man that was previously one of the most valued and admirable employees-is now a distraction and headache that they are just tolerating. Soon the youngest of the 4 daughters, becomes ill. The bills are stacking up-but not being paid…The man wonders around lacking sense and emotions in regards to the situation. Ultimately-the child dies. People say she has been called upon by God-and is now in a better place. Tensions grow as well as the drug use. The wife and man have a confrontation which ends in her murder and his suicide. Now it is being said that the woman is in heaven with her young child. Was this also Gods calling? Or was it the Devils plan all along? How about the man-who was caring-loving-responsible and determined prior to the drugs, is he now a victim of the Devil and will spend eternity paying for the sins he has committed? Or did God release him from the Devils grip and take him into his kingdom? What about the three children left alone in the world-what is their logic? That they are better off orphans? Now think of this---perhaps the murder suicide did not take place/but the woman and mans marriage ended in divorce-and he overdoses shortly after the divorce is finalized. One year later the woman begins to date a man. This man’s nurturing admiration for the mother and her children is not what it seems, he is not a nurturer at all-he is in fact a pedophile-who begins to prey upon the three children only 3 months into the relationship with their mother. They marry after 6 months and the abuse continues for 5 years-until one day-one of the girl’s fights back. Her punishment is death from a blow to the head. The woman pulls away from her daughters and stands by her husband-refusing to believe. The children who need their mother are tormented with the reality which they now face. There is not enough evidence to convict the man whom is released and returns to the home. As it always does-the abuse continues. A year later the woman gets off of work early-she rushes home to surprise her family/hoping to spend some, much needed family time. What she rushes home to is her husband stripping the girls’ innocence with every move he makes. She is now guilt ridden for choosing to believe her husband rather than her children. The man goes to prison-the relationship between the woman and her daughters his forever damaged-and time only creates more distance between their hearts. The woman begins smoking and the result is a premature death due to lung cancer when she is only 45 years old. The oldest daughter is unable to function within society and becomes homeless. The 2nd daughter-becomes a pedophile herself-and by the time she is 30 has molested 5 young girls-and is sentenced to a 20 year prison term. Now what do you think? Was it the Devils grip on the first husband the cause of all this families suffering? Or was it the Devils grip on the 2nd husband? Perhaps the youngest child’s death was the Devils play? Would it make a difference if I said that if that child would have lived, her parents would have mended their relationship for a short time-but after 5 years the woman cheats and leaves her husband and marries a different man who is all that she had ever wanted for her and her children? The girls saw their father every other weekend and grew up as a typical American girl should, with limits, goals and expectations. The youngest would have been successful within her career, a loving faithful wife, and her only child was a boy-who at age 15 brought a gun to school-where he took revenge on a dozen of his classmates-who had teased him over the years-labeling him a nerd or a freak? He had no friends to comfort him-and his parents although good people- rarely had the time to spend encouraging him and discussing all that life is. Now there are 12 dead class mates-hundreds of traumatized students and teachers-and countless lives that will never be the same. Where is Gods logic…?

Now…. Consider one more possible outcome…

The 1st husband- cleans up his act after his youngest daughter death. The man and woman grow old together. Their three remaining daughters had happy childhoods and became productive members of society. The man the woman would have married is still out there… But he is not married and does not have access to children on regular bases. He becomes a school teacher and is hired by a school district as a2nd grade teacher… Before he is revealed as the monster he is- he destroys 65 young girls’ lives. He spends the rest of his life in prison. Of the 65 girls- 15 commit suicide- 20 are unable to carry children- 7 end up molesting family members- 45 become drug addicts-30 are alcoholics- 2 end up in a mental institution for an extended period of time- 60 of them receive years of extensive therapy- 1 ends up committing a heinous murder and spends 65 years in prison- 42 never marry- 20 marriages end in divorce because the women cannot open up---all of their lives were affected in the most unappealing of ways…

65 lives destroyed- because 1 man made the decision to get clean-and save his marriage after his daughter passed away… Where is the devil? Where is God?

When the Devil has your hand- are you sure it isn’t God? Does pain and turmoil have reasoning and justifications that we may never realize? Our bad situations-could quite certainly save someone else from horrific circumstances… God vs. the Devil??? Or is God working besides the Devil??? Perhaps God and The Devil are as 1??? I don’t know. But for every action there is a reaction…and I believe that there are many ending to each of our stories… one last question---do you trust in God???

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maudine_05 6 years ago from United States

Gee!!!as humans we have the free-will which make as the master of our fate.Yet,there are certain circumstances that is beyond our control which we attributed to higher authority.Through it all, I wanna say I STILL BELIEVE IN GOD.


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Nan Mynatt 6 years ago from Illinois

Evil is the devil. Good is God. We have the ability to make a decision and God does not kill nor take a life. People who have no beliefs are usually lost human beings. You need to focus more on the good. It is true that people lose their way in life. I am a Christian, and I do focus on the goodness in life! People tend to do what they want, and do not consider what effects it will have on other human beings. The flesh is sometimes weak, and it is a fight to overcome the evil in this world. It sounds like you are torn between right and wrong.


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Nan, Thanks for your comment. Actually, no, I am not torn between right and wrong. The Hub was more so about having faith that what happens is suppose to happen. Perhaps what we sometimes see as the devils work-may be a blessing in disguise.

Example- A man cheats on his wife. Cheating is the one boundary that she has, that if crossed will end the relationship, which it does. Both the woman and man move on, each finding happiness with another, and have happy fulfilling lives. Cheating is seen as a selfish impulse (selfishness is un-godly). If this situation did not occur and end the relationship, the man and woman would still be together>>> Fast Forward three years later and the man and woman get into an argument that escalates becoming hostile. The end result is the woman is murdered by her angry delusional husband-whom then turns around and takes his own life. (Murder is un-godly)

Both situations have what we consider sinful actions. The bottom line I was attempting to portray was, God/Devil, Good/Evil---many not be as Black and White as we would like to think it is. And things happen for a reason-we may suffer from our situations and not understand or be able to see what life has in store for us-but believe that with God you will not be given a situation that you can not turn to him and ask for him to guide you. I am not disillusioned between right and wrong- I am very much in tune with what life offers me and have learned through trials and tribulations-I have suffered as well as rejoiced, I have been angry with God, denied God and found him again. As for God and the Devil and there being definite right and wrong, I believe that not one human being can look at our lives on a timeline to be able to make judgments and tell us-nope, that evil was the devil, or perhaps what I perceived as evil or the devil was a situation which I was meant to address and survive for the purpose of my being.


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Christianadam 6 years ago from Manila, Philippines

I still believe in god. What ever obstacles that I would be facing I would give it all to him. I would always rely to him.

http://mattscradle.com/2010/07/22/when-god-made-yo...


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

christianadam,

i think that giving yourself to god is what you must do to get through some of the hurdles in life. Believe that things are happening for a reason and with that have faith that you are in good hands


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@MagicBoy 6 years ago from Qatar

I believe, that as humans we are prone to turn away from God in happy times and only remember him when in trouble or grief, I guess it’s human nature to do so…we also always affiliate good things to God’s will and awful things to the Devil…what I do to console myself in both the situations is believe (or try to believe) that what happens is all God’s will and he knows best…hence, it gives me an inner strength to face the situation with more patience and logically…Take care…


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

@MagicBoy,

I agree---We dont know for sure why things happen-so it is best to have faith in bad times as well as good times. Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it :)


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Jason R. Manning 6 years ago from Sacramento, California

Hi H.C., pretty powerful examples of desperate humanity and the evil traps people fall into. Sometimes it is easier to just run with “My thoughts are not your thoughts, and your ways are not my ways. For as Heaven is higher than earth, so my ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.” (Isaiah 55:8-9)

I understand how addiction for some brings easier prey and wider swaths of destruction. Cold, calculated but real, this is why there are lines that shouldn’t be crossed. It is easier for me to let God handle his long term justice and why I strongly believe in the death penalty for specific classes of criminals. I do not make room in my heart for evil, this life is short, there are some mistakes our bodies, minds and souls cannot afford to make.

Great Hub, voted UP!


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Jason R Manning-

Thanks for the comment and for voting this hub up. I don’t believe that I have the qualifications to be able to make the decisions which God makes-which is why I try to not question why things happen-I try to remind myself that they happen for a reason and it does not matter if the reason is clear or faded in my perception of things. Thanks again for your comment-I appreciate the feedback


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upal19 5 years ago from Dhaka

Whatever happens should we distrust god? The answer is no. We should have trust in god for the last because our life is a test case anyway.


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H.C Porter 5 years ago from Lone Star State Author

upal19 - i agree in part as to what you say. i believe that things happen for a reason- whether we are or are not test cases, we still have some control on what the journey and outcome of our life is. thanks again for sharing your thoughts


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Jesus was a hippy 5 years ago from United Kingdom

It doesnt seem to make sense does it. If god loves us and can intervene in the world then why does he let millions of children starve to death EVERY year in poor countries?

Why does he let satan near us?

It makes no sense at all. Doesnt god love us?

It makes more sense if you realise that the bible is a fairytale written by primitive people and good and bad things just happen because they do.


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H.C Porter 5 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Jesus was a hippy-thanks for the comment...perhaps all does happen just because it can...


anonymous 2 years ago

The Bible God is partly evil with a Jekyll and Hyde personality. He has no common sense and has no reasoning. He allows Adam and Eve's sin to be passed on to all future unborn humans( which is very unfair) and He curses and punishes the entire world for all time, including innocent animals, with diseases, mass starvartion, venoms, poisons, parasites, birth defects, hurricanes, tsunamis, death. He killed 70,000 men just because David took a census. Irrattional, insane, unreasoning, cruel, violent, bloodthirsty, unfair, immoral describes the Bible God. Only in Job does Satan inflict physical torture and killing which was still under God's permission. In nearly the entire Bible God inflicts physical torture and killing. Its a God who has shown more cruelty and who has caused and created more suffering to His creation all because two primitive humans ate a forbidden fruit thousands of years ago which He orchestrated for them to eat in the first place. He refuses to forgive Adam and Eve and refuses to give them a second chance and He goes right ahead with blaming, cursing, and punishing everyone, everything, everywhere for the sin of two people. Its sick. Cruelty is this God's forte. Its a cruel, despicable God. Aside from being cruel He is also an egomaniac and narcississtic. Its a mentally blind, morally blind God who is cruel and amoral like the Nature He created. The same God who created roses also created the horrific ebola virus. The original Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde describes the Bible God. And He has eternal torture chamber called hell where billions of people will end up according to Fundamentalist Christians to be tortured forever in unimaginably horrfying ways. Fire, worms, a sewer like stench, suffocation or inability to breathe, and being assaulted, sliced, and mutilated by repulsive demonic monsters forever according to Mary Baxter and Bill Wiese. According to David J. Stewart, victims in hell will be tortured forever by being buried alive inside a claustrophobic, coffin like environment as they burn in fire at the same time. Eternal burial alive, eternal claustrophobia, eternal suffocation, eternal incineration. Its monstrously sick, cruel, inhumane, malevolent, fiendish, diabolical horror beyond imagining and infinitely vastly worse than any horror movie. And if all these people are doomed to hell then its a win for Satan and Jesus Christ's mission to save us was largely a failure. The Bible God is a cruel monster. The Devil and evil rules the world. A loving God does not.

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