Good and evil are human concepts but are angels and demons real?

Angels and demons in a Yin and Yang universe

Yesterday I was watching a new interview in the Project Camelot series, and in this one Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan are talking to their interviewee Dr Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project. At times it becomes more of an argument than an interview because Dr Greer and Bill and Kerry have very different views on the subject of the nature of extraterrestrial beings. Dr Greer states that all such entities are of no harm to humans, whilst the two founders of Project Camelot feel that there may be negatively oriented or hostile ETs who do not have our interests in mind.

Dr Greer points out that ETs are not the same as other-dimensional entities, which he agrees can be harmful. He is stressing that ETs and interdimensional entities are two different types of being. These negative ones in other dimensions are the type of beings we often refer to as demons or evil spirits, whilst David Icke calls them Reptilians.

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Megarhyssa_macrurus ichneumon female. Photo by Bruce Marlin
Megarhyssa_macrurus ichneumon female. Photo by Bruce Marlin

The Law of One and the Ra Material

They talk about the concept of "service to self" and "service to others" which I came across first in the Law of One and Ra Material by L/L Research and with which they are all very familiar. The video inspired my friend Blodwen to ask me what I think and I said I can see both points of view but tend to agree with Bill and Kerry that there are alien races we would regard as hostile to us.

I got to explaining how I see good and evil and positive and negative as human concepts and how God/Goddess created predators and prey, hunters and hunted, parasites and their hosts amongst animal life on this planet so there is no reason not to suspect that this would be the case elsewhere.

We may think an animal that eats or parasitises another is cruel but it is not because it is doing what it was designed to do. It is obeying its instincts and the programme in its DNA. All animal life has to eat other forms of life even if that life is vegetable in origin it is still a form of life.

As a naturalist I am well aware that in the most beautiful and untouched paradise natural environments that still exist we still have carnivores and parasitic life forms in these places. This means that other animals and plants are being killed as food for those that prey on them. I would not be surprised to find this would be the case on other worlds too.

Many forms of animal life do things we find cruel but this is hypocritical because the human race is a very cruel life form as individuals and as a group. Social insects like bees throw out the male drones to die, wasps kill their young ones in winter, ants wage war on other ant species and farm other insects. Some insects like the ichneumon flies lay their eggs in the caterpillars of butterflies and moths and their parasitic larvae live inside the body of the host gradually eating away at it until it dies.

Charles Darwin was upset by the life-cycles of these insects. Wikipedia informs us that:

In a letter to American botanist Asa Gray, Darwin wrote: "I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created the Ichneumonidae with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars, or that a cat should play with mice."

But was Darwin right? Are these creatures evil? No, I don't think so - they are doing what they were designed to do. They also perform a function which is keeping the number of their host species at a level that is not too many for a given area to support.

Many predatory and parasite species do this - they keep the numbers of their prey under control. There are other scavenger species of insect, bird and mammal that eat the dead bodies of other animals. This is their function. None of these creatures are wrong for doing what they do.

This I would suggest is the way it works on physical worlds. This is how life is programmed and survives on planets in the material universe or the "third density."

That life can live on energies of a finer source on a finer density or dimension of existence I am also sure is what happens but in this material world that is how the Divine Creator decided that things should be.

If we believe in a spiritual source of all life and all creation, as I do, then I must conclude that all life forms have been created by this creator. That all life is therfore spiritual in essence, or as the brilliant poet and artist William Blake wrote "Everything that lives is holy."

This means that angels and demons are neither good or bad - they just ARE! Andromedan contactee Alex Collier talks about how the Andromedans refer to and think of God as "The Isness." Life and its creator is a state of being. How we think about life forms we share the universe with and how we label them as good or bad are only human concepts.

There is the oriental philosophy of the Yin and Yang nature of everything. That this is a universe of opposites and an interplay between opposing forces. It is an ever-changing battle between such forces with an ideal being a state of balance between the two sides. From this we get the idea of the deity known as Abraxas that is thought of as God and the Devil.

It is not possible to have Yin without Yang - there is always a balance. There is an equal amount of darkness and light.

The aim of the religions of Buddhism and Hinduism is to free the soul from incarnations in the material worlds , which are said to be illusion. The spirit has become trapped in this world and is constantly ensnared by the senses that tempt into further material existence.

Project Camelot interviews Dr Steven Greer

Tibetan Book of the Dead

In the Tibetan Book of the Dead, or The Great Liberation Through Hearing as it is also known, the soul that has recently left the body at death is given guidance on how to proceed so that they will not become trapped again in the cycle of Birth-Death-Rebirth. The spirit is told of Benificent and Wrathful Deities that will be encountered in their 49-day journey through the Bardos and is counselled to concentrate only on the "Clear Light".

The soul is warned not to be tempted by even the paradise worlds that will appear. It is a manual addressed to each and every one of us with instructions as to how to resist the attachments of this world.

What is Maya?

All these things are parts of the illusion of Maya, parts of the temptation that holds spirits in the material world. The aim is to free the self and achieve the enlightened state of Nirvana and freedom from the trap of the material world and the attachments formed by the mind and senses.

I remember a story from the Gita where Arjuna, Krishna`s disciple and friend, was talking to Lord Krishna and is confused and upset by the raging battle that is going on. Krishna tries to explain that all of it is an illusion and that in reality no one is being killed for they are all parts of himself and are by their divine nature immortal spirit.

Wikipedia tells us:

"Arjuna was a master archer and played a central role in the conflict between the Pandavas and their adversaries, the sons of Dhritarashtra known as the Kauravas. Arjuna was reluctant to take part in battle because of the slaughter he knew he would cause in the enemy ranks, which included many of his own relatives. He was persuaded by his charioteer and close friend, Lord Krishna, to change his mind. Their dialogue about issues involved in war—courage, a warrior’s duty, the nature of human life and the soul, and the role of Gods—forms the subject of the Bhagavad Gita, one of the key episodes in the epic Mahābhārata."

So the lesson here is that really there is no good or bad apart from as the labels and concepts we use to make sense of the world of illusion we are in. In Tibetan Buddhism a very important mantra, perhaps the most important of all, is the mantra of Chenrezig: OM MANI PADME HUM. This translates as "Hail the Jewel in the Lotus." I interpret this as look to the spirit within everything that lives and you will see God.

© 2009 Steve Andrews

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Paraglider 7 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

Bard - very nice hub. The Krisna message to Arjuna is one of duty. A warrior must fight, and must not care about the outcome, only the process. It's a very hard message. Because perhaps there should be no warriors.

But you know, once I dreamed that Arjuna made me a tuna salad. It was good too!

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Aya Katz 7 years ago from The Ozarks

Paraglider, what an odd dream! Would Krishna have approved, do you think, of a tuna sandwich?

Bard of Ely, thanks for this philosophical hub!

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Paraglider 7 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

Aya - it was a very vivid dream. I'd been reading the Gita in a wonderful verse translation by Stephen Mitchell and I had this dream that Arjuna left the chariot, explaining to Krisna that he had to make me a tuna salad. He did, I ate, everything was groovy, as we used to say. Can't explain ;)

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Aya Katz 7 years ago from The Ozarks

Wow! That is vivid.

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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for posting your comments, Paraglider and Aya!

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emohealer 7 years ago from South Carolina

Very, very nice! Taken from a whole different view, yet coming to the same conclusion. I agree that they are a belief system and learned concepts driven by social mores of the day. Overlooking the possible divine purpose one for another, even taking into consideration that each one of us has our individual purpose. Excellent, excellent hub....Bravo!

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wabond 7 years ago from England

This is a hub i very much agree with. I have always questioned the concept of good and evil, because what is considered to be good and evil is always a matter of opinion.

Once people judge and condemn someone is evil, then it seems it is a justification for hatred, torture, assault or even murder. We can see this clearly in the Witch hunts of the Middle Ages. Women were condemned as 'evil' and this justified torture and murder.

The concept of good and evil is always used in the justification for war. The 'enemy' is off course always 'evil' and we are always 'good'.

If we can get away from ideas like good and evil then we are far less likely to judge, condemn, hate and fear other people.

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maricarbo 7 years ago

I am sure that Krishna is OK with the Tuna as he eats lots of chicken, too, and he LOVES Chinese food. So Tuna is just one notch down on the evolutionary scale....But you must have been very hungry to have dreamed that dream.

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maricarbo 7 years ago

Perspectives and attitudes will be changing on this Earth. They have already started to change. The "other life" in the universe is a reality. We have been very silly to suppose otherwise. I think that in a few years many old beliefs and thoughts will be replaced with true knowledge and acceptance; an end of many of the mysteries we have had until now.

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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

You will have a hard time explaining this concept to children of holocaust victims or to parents of a kid raped and killed by his classmates...

Yet I do agree, there is no such thing as universal good and evil, it is our own invention, and it does not do us any "good".

Writer Rider 7 years ago

Love it Bard. Steven Greer is a very reputable member of the UFO disclosure community. As for the concept of good and evil, I'm still a little perplexed. When something is a danger to yourself then it has to be a bad thing or you would let it happen. In the end, however, it's all a balancing act which is where I believe you're going.

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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your feedback, Emohealer, Maricarbo, William, Misha and WR!

Misha and WR, yes, because we are in this we are bound to make judgements about what is bad or good - if someone attacks me I am not going to think of this as good but will of course seek to defend myself or get out of the way of the attacker. All life is programmed to respond to pleasure and pain and judges its experience in life by this. We learn through experiences. The point I am stressing and why I brought in Hinduism and Buddhism is that pain and pleasure and good and bad are concepts and part of the material or physical world we are in, whilst the main aims of these religions is to free each soul from being incarnate in these repetitive cycles of birth-death-rebirth and all the experiences both good and bad they bring and to return to godhead or spiritual enlightenment. A Buddha being a soul who has achieved this.

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Pete Maida 7 years ago

Humans label all things based on emotion. There is no bases of logic in most of our responses to things. We find some things gross and other things interesting. As they say it is all in the eye of the beholder.

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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for your comments, Pete!

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wisecrone333 7 years ago

I thought this was a really well thought out hub - thanks - in the Wiccan way we believe that all forces just "are" and I personally have believed that the only evil stems from man himself as a species rather than is something we should fear from outside beings.

I notice Pete Maida mentioned above that everything is in the eye of the beholder - is it possible that some people see or perceive evil in other beings purely and simply because they do not understand what they can see?

Just a thought


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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Lisa!

I think as humans it is very easy to have the concept of good and evil and to label others with these terms depending on whether we like or dislike their actions. So if someone is nice to us they are good but if they attack or kill that which we love then they are evil. They are judgements made depending on pleasure or pain as a result of our life experiences.

But as a young Bob Dylan sang: "Good and bad I defined these terms so clear no doubt somehow, but I was so much older then I'm younger than that now."

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TheAllSeeingEye 7 years ago from England.

The true religion is self, spirituality, discovering oneself from within. Instead of prayer I meditate and balance emotions, channel energy chakras and connect with higher consciousness.

I have nothing against people who worship an outside source of god. It's their choice and their faith.

However, Prayer is no different to meditation. Both are used to connect with the divine being or god conscious. The problem with religion is that it is also a control system and its followers are told prayer is only effective under certain guidelines and rules to adhere to, whereas through meditation, one can channel into god state of mind without any outside rules attached.

Religion is a cult, it only exists because of its followers who support it. Religion rely on members to keep it alive.

Omnipresence or meditation is not a cult. Its practitioners don't rely on others to keep it alive, only the self can keep meditation alive.

I follow no cult because of this reason. Yes I say GOD is inside of me, but how is this not a cult method? Because GOD is inside of everyone! Everybody has the ability to find a godhood state of conscious without joining any religious institution. Religion can help people channel positivity into their life, but it also can brainwash, manipulate and control people. What I am against is control systems or rules that are designed to keep sheep in line. Wars are created out of religious beliefs yet religion should never incite war but religion teaches its followers to give an eye for an eye, to do to others what they do unto them. In another sense it practices negativity too!

With meditation and self religion or spirituality you are bound to no rules, but to find god hood state of conscious you must welcome all dualities of emotions but focus only on positive ones. Positivity will always prevail over negativity. How do I know this? I practice it and am aware of it. I welcome any emotion into my life, but know how to transcend above negative emotion through the power of thought or right brain hemisphere.

My religion consists of this mentality. Everything is equal and everything evolves together. A savage mentality can only be taught by others. When we are born we are born with a balanced mind ready to learn our lessons of a new life. We also are born with no restrictions and we are naturally exploratory and of free will. It is control methods that install fear and hate in all of us. If we only knew love from the start then everyone would be kind and good natured. Instead we are taught to be afraid, to be scared and to be defensive. We are taught to compete against each other for a better life. We are all chasing external dreams and material satisfaction. Yet when we get what we want, get the good job, get the flash car, get the large house we are left with an empty feeling. Money and material things does not bring deep understanding and abundance of self. Many people are never really happy although possessing all the money and material things available to them. What they lack is self love, the feeling to feel good no matter what outside influences stand in their way. Money and greed, power and control are only gained through negativity and on many of occasions through stresses. The body craves for more yet is never fully satisfied. Material things and money is a quick fix or temporary buzz. Spirituality and enlightenment is permanent happiness if channelled in a positive light.

Are we as a human race looking backwards in time for answers so much that we are choosing to live in the Dark Ages?

If we focus more on the now and for the future we can eradicate faith systems (feeding off of history) that have kept people suppressed and held back for the past 2000 years.

Science in the modern era is ready to move on and technology is progressing at an alarming rate. However, the faith systems need to acknowledge scientific progress and be prepared to alter its doctrines if science can lead the way for humanity.

What have faith systems achieved over the last 2000 years? Wars, racism, split ideologies and teaching of false prophets, half truths and mythology.

Religious institutions have ruled and controlled the world and kept it suppressed and held back for too long now. It was the Catholic Church that imposed the first mechanical clock on indigenous people to watch by. The mechanical clock and Roman calendar are not in tune with the universe or body time.

What people must understand is that anything that religion teaches its followers, and anything the church has had any involvement in throughout the ages have been designed to make people look outside of themselves.

The secret to spirituality and god conscious can only come from within the self.

This is why religion points to an outside source of god and pushed an outside source of time on people to watch. This is why our governments and control institutions make us look outside for understanding and fulfillment. We need to read and be told our knowledge passed down to us by people who work the system. This is why children MUST go to school and why adults MUST seek employment. This is why people MUST chase money for a better standard of life and why people MUST possess the very best material things to feel happy and contented. Yet when someone has everything that they possibly can have they are left feeling empty or they still crave for more of the same. Their life is guided by others or outside influences. They will never truly be happy unless they discover themselves within.

Life brings many challenges along the way. It is just so for a reason as it helps a person deal with every duality of emotion which builds his/her spiritual awareness. Spirituality is the real religion, the religion which has been hidden from the masses for over 2000 years. Since Constantine's rehash of the bible, its followers have looked outside themselves for a GOD, a holy entity who watches over everyone making judgement. This of course applies to every faith system invented by man. It's a way to control and rule over the people, keep the bloodlines pure, keep the rulers in power and keep the wise one's separated from those who are not. Biggest crime in mankind ever was when the few got to rule and enslave the many. The laws of nature for mankind is simple. Lead each other and not let others lead the way. The way to godhood conscious is by touching hearts along the way and not destroying them.

Exercising my brain and seeking knowledge helps with my awareness which in turn helps with my spiritual growth. The secret to life is as follows. Seek knowledge, meditate and have access to every multi dimension available. This is the ultimate goal of life. It takes many life times to achieve this, I am already on a journey toward this.

Great hub! Very informative!

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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your feedback!

Lora 7 years ago

Faith is a belief in the trustworthiness of an idea that one has not been proven formally and cannot prove formally its "Dogma", means don't use ur brain just beleive in, so when you become inside Religion Cage, you can use ur mind because you're already inside the cage.

the absurdity is (I want to ask you do U think that God has low level of thinking to make many religions! do U think he wants mankind to kill each others, or he cannot keep one religion for all mankind or he wants to test semi-humans Like whom living nowadays they look humans but have a mind of irrational animals!!!, even they don't understand themselves!!!, just imagine Mankind in the past!!! so U think they're more intelligent!!!, somekind of intelligence, used Mankind low level of thinking to get their goals, every thing in this universe is govern by science.

Mr. Bonehead always weak, that's why he looking for God to feel safer "his mind not up to face this bizarre world, to find reasonable explaination", do you think that God will test semi-human like them, this is nonsense the concept of good and evil is just mankind concept, every body should know, we did nothing in science, even we didn't open the gate of science yet, I know U can't get it its useless.

Lora 7 years ago

I'm waiting Ur reply!, anyhow I'm looking for a real Human, real one not like whom living nowadays "semi-humans", don't worry the next leson is coming, we gonna see who can stop it, Ostrich can't hide for long time, time of choice is over no more, I've to break Boneheads, no escape.

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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I agree with you that good and evil are human concepts and have said as much in my article. I am not sure what you mean by Mr Bonehead. God didn't create religions - people did and still do!

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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Lisa!

Lora 7 years ago

The idea of punishment and reward “rivers of honey and wine, Girls at Paradise” and the method of prayer, fasting, pilgrimage,,,, and alms, in Quran “Muslim Book” its source is Ancient Egyptian religious System, the Pharaohs from thousands of years ago that had been no disclosure of those secrets short time ago “Rosetta Stone”, also using Ancient Egyptian religious language into Arabic language “Quranic language”, there are secrets of the transfering of these historic secrets, there are intelligent aliens behind transfering those secrets, to build a new religion “Islam”, O Semi-humans those lived 1500 years ago are more stupid than you “Nomads”, intelligent aliens behind Religions and Black magic "almost Religions are not Human invention, 'there are some scientific hents, there is something mean behind them' proving all these is very easy, only what's deep inside is more worse than their stupidity, we shouldn't underestimate the consequences and complications of Religions whole religeous nations now in Deep religeous swirl, it will take long time to get out, I'm sorry for their childrens.

*- the source of almost Religions and black magic are aliens, look at the old history of both of them and use ur mind.

*- its provable.

*- yeah black magic indicates ignorance to somehumans, this is not true, thereof the aliens used mankind from long time ago, these feelings like its disgusting matter or this is kind of ignorance,,,,,

they are built in characters, for instance look to Grammar: you will not accept this phrase: I’ll go to cinema yesterday, do you know why no one taught you about Grammar its built in,,,, you know the past, present and the future, space, time, speed,,,, are already built in Ur brain,,,,, the concept of good and evil the concept of clean and dirty too,,,, why because we need all these characters to survive its essential for mankind “these characters are peculiar to humans only”, but the aliens knew these human characters, thereon used it for their interests, (hunting) its a matter of business the concept of good and evil,,,, to those aliens has no meaning, therefor the aliens used them “human characters” for their advantage like Religion and black magic…

We have to close that gate to protect our kind, we need more advanced science, we need more humanity,

*- Mankind is the most intelligent beings in this universe, but we still don’t know how to use our mind the right way, by the way Mass and energy are the very same, its a matter of speed then time,,,,,,

by the way I don’t like to talk about such things but I’ve to, I’ve to protect my kind "future generations",

you can see all I’ve mentioned fits all the facts…

what's really Strange thing is that there are Nations talking about human civilization only they don’t realize their bitter reality, odds and impure, hypocrites trying to illegal gain “they like gain without pain” with Villenage and acquired the same characteristics of irrational animals, the psychological characteristics of dirty animal is not worthy of human beings its low, the weird thing is the severity of seeking for paradise, it is a case of hypocrisy, psychological characteristics of irrational animals transferred to semi-intelligent human beings then to their children, there is something dirty in their hearts, seek deterioration of the humankind, the more strange thing is that they don’t realize what's mentioned above, they are worse, some dirty semi-humans took control of their society using irrational animal Malice sometimes they call it "Policy" othertimes"Intelligence" , I may respect malice of irrational animal because they have no other way but mankind has intelligence so its shame, you may respect Malice of mean Fox, but you can't respect Malice of ewe! they’ve to learn how to respect their children instead of hypocracy, even irrational animals respect their children and protect them, trying to secure their future (making clean atmosphere). oh semi-humans first of all you should respect ur children and science instead of being hypocrites even they are not up to irrational animals its Unreasonable "they want to go Paradise (rivers of honey and wine, Girls ) very greedy! very low!", the best we've is our Humanity its our pride as Mankind, those dirty semi-humans lost Humanity they don't recognize what I'm saying, it incredible stupidity, those dirty creeps talking about civilization!!!, Human can protect hemself using Intelligence instead of dirty irrational Malice.

ostrich is not a solution because the problem already exist, there is a solution we’ve to tackle it ourself


Lora 7 years ago

do you know why mankind doesn’t like to talk about such issues, its built-in psychologically now as a kind of protection but there is problem those aliens already broken this Rule, that aliens used these characters for their purpose, ask urself why you don’t like to talk about such things? even thou you know its very danger matter, oblivious to the risk!, or,,, do you know what's ridiculous: human spirit “we’ve to find another word because this word for semi-humans Symbolizes Religion” itself denies the existence of human spirit its you “self-concept” its a kind of energy built up ur Body. we’ve to study it why? its really worthy of consideration.

its a matter of prey and predator, they’re helpless they’re mean to an end, that aliens is very intelligent and powerful, but sorcerer are just dirty stupid semi-humans “the problem aliens have the ability to reprogramming their spirits "energy", (made a change), they look Humans but inside got changed, our world is very advanced even to those aliens and they can't understand our world the way you think they using some helpless people's perception unit trying to get our world then using it for their advantages "using Mankind ignorance" “, its just a kind of offering, “Black-magic is really exist proving this is very easy too” what you heard about paranormal in the past during what you called them messengers, Prorhets period, or others behind it are the aliens, everything is governed by science, that aliens using science nothing else, every thing in this world is ruled by science, the main idea of it is the relation between mass and energy, make search you can see that speed-time is the main factor, the problem is we still don’t know the meaning of time, that alien play at that point. there is something you’ll not believe: that aliens using religions as a gate to intrude or invade human body then its energy, how? these aliens during telecommunication give signs to the victim (prey) that aliens are behind his religion of course this will bring human energy down,,,,,

mankind is the fittest to survive, the problem we still don’t know how to use our brain, we built a weak science,,

about Evolution: it goes without saying, anybody has any suspicion should read more, But the Question is what’s behind it except Genes? gene is not intelligent entity, so how does evolution work? behind genes is one of the most advanced coding systems in this universe its kind of energy “intelligent form its long story, the secret of perception, cognition,,,” anyhow life is not easy at all, mankind’s knowledge still very weak and needs to rebuild, like psychology is full of mistakes, what's behind evolution is strange kind of energy, its you “self-concept” you’re using perception unit right now + temporary memory, to transfer it to recognition unit, this self-concept is strange kind of energy, its behind Evolution, some people doesn’t like this, these psychological characters are built in, some built in characters are good to protect Mankind, but some of it are not good for mankind progress, the silly thing is self-concept “you” refuses this fact itself,

we didn’t open the gate of science yet, we need a real scientists, we should change our way of thinking about Time, speed concept, look to almost physics equations from Newton’s Laws to Relativity and Quantum Laws, We ignoring the main Rule of Speed-Time, MassEnergy, we’ve to revise our way of thinking about time-speed concept.

about Evolution: look to this: A phantom limb is the sensation that an amputated or missing limb (even an organ, like the appendix) is still attached to the body and is moving appropriately with other body parts,,, self-concept has the infinitesimal details of whole human body Energy state “she built it”, that’s why, its data still exist in our brain,

precognition related to time concept too,,,,,

everything in this universe is Govern by Science, in future this will be the most important Field in science “self-concept energy”, you can apply this on other beings, time to small beings is different, that’s why it evolute more speedy like insects, Human being needs his brain to make evolution, probably we've to rebuild our bodies in future to be able to live in other planets, some simple people wants to live for ever! mankind lives for ever through his progeny, human transfer “self-concept” to his children unknowingly and unwillingly what a shame! that’s why we should take care of our progeny, Democracy and Humanity aren’t luxury, during Crisis they could rely on them to rebuild there society in short time, else any society full thieves, bribers, corruption, hypocrisy,,, could destroy themselves any time, what's really weird is some ignorant thieves and bribees,,,, talking about civilization!

I think there is a problem with human mind, they are living like irrational animals infact worse!!!

the problem we still don’t understand ourselves.

we’ve to find the wright way to connect all exact sciences to work in good way, because some sophisticated problems need all these together to solve it.

many feline creeps practice their dirty poor imagination on their helpless people, that helpless people live in Darkness, they have keen desire to freedom too, UN does not take its Rule because it represents that vicious thieves not their helpless people, what a great civilization of creeps.

Lora 7 years ago

try to secure the future of ur childrens, the other details are useless, yeah I know I know great USA, GB, China,,, great civilizations everything about human race is great, even human mind is great too, huge imagination, that's all I can say.

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Bard of Ely 7 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

You have lots to say, Lora! Thank you for saying it all! Why not join hubpages and post your OWN hubs?

Lora 7 years ago

I hope you got something,

those aliens know what gonna happen in future, time is just human concept, they are destructive machines, they know what I'm doing now, but this world has its Rules of course not the rules which in semi-humans minds, from the begining I'm not oblivious to the risk those aliens are very distructive and Intelligent, I've to protect my kind, we are the fittest to survive, the hardest part is using my kind to hunt me, I don't blame those dirty semi-humans they are helpless irrational animals they are means to an end nothing more, there is a whole sociaty well prepared through Religion too, as to me I don't like to live among semi-humans, but I've to do my best to protect my kind, I've not enough time I'm about to die, someone should do the rest.

it's very danger those aliens have the ability to reprograming semi-humans not only this, those semi-humans could transfer those dirty characters to their childrens, throu Religion too which more worse and efective

because this Religions work on large scale, there are dirty nations dreaming of their alleged paradise, no need for details if you got it you will get the rest yourself, I know how you think, your level of thinking, I've no other way I've to make sure of securing the future of my kind myself.

please do your best to protect your childrens, give them the chance to respect you don't let them look to you as semi-humans, do your best to secure their future,

even I've to come back again to make sure but I don't like semihumans, be sure future is ours, we're the most intelligent entities in this Universe, we can reverse it,

we should be the Masters of this Universe, at least try to warn them let them respect us please, they are our kind.

Alan Craw 6 years ago

If I'm not mistaken and I remember correctly the concept of Good and Evil within the mainstream concensus of religions teach of the Jewish/Christian/Muslim idea, came from the mythology of Persia, and the two sons of the God Ahura Mazdha... can't remember their names from the top of my head... but one son was supposed to me encompassing of all that is good in the universe and the other son was encompassing of all that is evil/bad, etc.

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Bard of Ely 6 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for your feedback, Alan!

Lora 6 years ago

protect your children semi-humans, its your responsibility, your level of thinking is very low sometimes I think that you're not a humans.

Lord 5 years ago

what is going on, no comments a long time ago "18 months ago"! did cat eat their tongues, boneheads will never hide for long, so whereto

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rjbatty 5 years ago from Irvine

I appreciated your perspective of the duality of nature, but I think the concept is more complex than you've identified. Human beings have indeed simplified the convolution of good/evil or chaos/balance in terms that make sense to us on a kitchen sink level, and this is unavoidable, as we do not live in an atmosphere of pure philosophy. There is no complete black and white but a mixture of the two. On an evolutionary scale, at times it makes sense to pitch in with chaos over balance because the balance of the times is (from a larger perspective) false. Yet, we are barred from seeing the "larger picture" due to the constraints of time and place. There is a clear distinction between these opposites, and, unfortunately humankind cannot separate themselves as might a monk atop a mountain top. Sometimes chaos makes as much sense as order because the fundamental balance between the two has become obscured. This is not to say that the opposites are parallel in a moralistic sense because they are not. Sometimes the Yin must dominate the Yang and vice versa. The dichotomy suggests an infinite struggle for balance/harmony that may be unachievable since we are in a constant state of flux and alteration. Additionally, knowing the most basic outline of our dilemma does not spare any of us at any time from experiencing great hardship and suffering. According to Darwin's idea of "survival of the fittests" the entire playing field becomes topsy turvey, and any number of random events and individual determinations can have a profound impact on the future aspects of the human species.

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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your feedback, rjbatty! Perhaps you could tell me why it is that where humans go a state of imbalance follows but where nature is left with no humans present to disrupt it that everything is balanced and getting along fine? I see it time after time that the natural world minus humans is full of life and a world of incredible beauty but add humans to it and destruction, killing, suffering and extinction of other species rapidly follows. It looks as if humans are mainly unable to live in balance with the natural world!

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rjbatty 5 years ago from Irvine

Bard: I fully understand your sentiment about the intrusion of homo sapiens upon the planet. But, understand, our species arose from some far more primitive mammalian ancestors. Unless you believe we were genetically engineered by aliens or plopped on the planet by them, you have to assume that we are part of the natural process of the planet (for better or worse), and only an off-world intelligence would be able to say (with any impartiality) whether our course is ordinary or not. It could very well be that on certain planets a species expands to the point where it obliterates all other life forms -- possibly causing a cascading effect where we plummet into oblivion ourselves (or not). We simply having nothing to compare ourselves to. Perhaps we are nothing more than a moss that covers the land masses of the planet, and perhaps this moss expands to a point where it exhausts its food supply and thereafter vanishes. Perhaps "intelligence" is an aberration that plays little or no part in this process. If and until we have another civilization with which to compare ourselves, we cannot definitively say whether life ultimately extinguishes itself after a brief period of flourishment. We may not find this outcome "balanced," but it doesn't put the hypothesis out of the realm of possibility. Additionally, you are not correct about human beings being the major or only disruptive factor on the planet. The earth has undergone hundreds of changes -- some gradual, some suddenly. There is evidence that the planet has incurred several extinction events. This MIGHT indicate that life (regardless of its tenacity -- even at a microbial level) is at a disadvantage when viewed over the course of a few million years.

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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Actually I do tend to believe that the alien interference here is a likelihood and don't subscribe to the theory of evolution as to how we got here. But really I don't know! I don't think that humans can or will wipe themselves out though even if the majority would be. Some would survive and it will start again. Yes, major Earth cahges can wipe out life forms in a big way but that is not what I am talking about. I mean that all natural habitats be they forests, wetlands, oceans, moutains, jungles and even arctic wastes all support a far greater diversity of life before humans arrive. Humans have taken toxic pollution to every part of the planet now. No other life form does that. Surely this shows that the human is very out of balance with the ecosystem here?

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rjbatty 5 years ago from Irvine

Agreed ... only we don't know that non-co-existence within our ecosystem is unnatural. We may be following a path that is entirely common or entirely uncommon. Without a suitable means of comparison, we can only assume that our path is irregular. Lemmings have a habit of leaping off cliffs into the sea (essentially committing suicide) at regular intervals as their population becomes too dense. Some instinct similar to this may be built into man's genetic code, i.e., we may destroy a good portion of ourselves as a survival mechanism. Also, we are prime candidates for another plague-like event -- simply because of our numbers and ability to transfer across continents. Our present numbers do not seem sustainable, so ... something has to give.

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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I can see that out present numbers are not sustainable in the way people are currently distributed and crammed into areas that are too small whilst there are vast areas of land that still lie more or less unpopulated. I have read in several places that there is no over population problem in terms of land that can support the numbers here but how to remedy it and stop cities expanding in an unsustainable way is not happening. Urban sprawl, industrial belts and monoculture farming are destroying the wildlife of the UK at a rapid rate and I see the same happening on this island where I am now where once lush countryside is replaced with roads, factories, warehouses, housing developments and shopping centres. The people need feeding and all these human inhabited areas need vast amounts of water which is becoming scarce and not managed or stored properly. There is excess rainfall and flooding in many places and the water goes to waste running down to the sea causing vast damage to property on its way and adding to the bill! Where I live more of this precious water is used to keep golf courses green although being grown in tropical semi-desert areas! It is all insane! All these human developments and wastage or resources are killing off other animals and plants at a fantastic rate and personally I don't see any reduction coming about. Plastic continues to fill the oceans, the air continues to fill with pollution, forests continue to get destroyed, even mountain peaks are being destroyed now in the interests of mining! Not forgetting vast amounts of depleted uranium that have contaminated land and are out there in the environment along with all the radiation from Japan and elsewhere! Not forgetting the Glebe III Dam in Ethiopia and Belo Monte in the Amazon proposals that are going to destroy so very much! The planet has been turned into a rubbish dump and Mother Earth is being ripped and blasted to bits! And a lot of people don't seem to care or wish to do anything about it leaving it up to too small a number that do to make much impact!

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fen lander 5 years ago from Whitstable

Amen to all the above. Thanks Bard, a timely reminder. We are living through the times when mankind wakes-up and finds the way to transform. It's Do Or Die for our home-world and we that live here. Necessity is the mother of invention, and we have the necessity. I have hope. I too believe in a spiritual creator and I believe that that creator is putting humanity through a process of alchemy - it looks pretty black before it takes on the coat of many colours. Prepare for the Rainbow! (nice article)

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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Fen!

Lord 4 years ago

what a nice article Mr. Bard, I liked Lora's comments too wow

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Bard of Ely 4 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Lord!

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