Guru Rasa - so controversial she's been banned from Facebook five times in 13 months

Guru Rasa Von Werder

Guru Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts
Guru Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts

So controversial she's been banned again

Who is at the centre of so much controversy that they have been banned five times in 13 months? No, it's not David Icke, or Charlie Sheen, Marilyn Manson or any of the other controversial male celebrities but a woman promoting matriarchy. Guru Rasa von Werder has just had her site at Facebook disabled again after losing another four previous versions and despite having many thousands of friends and fans.

Guru Rasa, whose real name is Kellie Everts, also lost her site and hundreds of videos at YouTube some years back, so why is this? What is so terrible about what she posts that it is not deemed suitable for public viewing at social networking and video sites?

Matriarchy

So why does Guru Rasa get into so much trouble with her sites? What do people find so offensive?

Well, Rasa speaks out openly about matriarchy as the way forward, she speaks out about the horrific animal abuse that continues, she speaks out about the appalling sexual abuse of women and children. She makes a very valid point that the vast majority of all this violence is carried out by men, not women!

Guru Rasa believes herself to be an avatar for Mother God, as she calls the Divine Creator, and believes she is ushering in the future world run by women as a matriarchy. Her many disciples agree with her.

She regularly posts the views of author William Bond along with news of her own many book titles. William has written much on the subject of matriarchy over the years. Rasa's books are available from her lulu.com store.

Rasa believes that women are superior to men and backs this up with scientific facts about their genes. She also quotes Oxford Professor Bryan Sykes who has forecast that human males are going to become extinct in the future due to their crumbling genetic make-up. This is not her own biased view but that of a respected academic expert in genetic science. He writes of his research and conclusions in his book Adam's Curse: A Future Without Men.

Rasa and William are quick to point out, and I would totally agree with them, that the overwhelming amount of ongoing violence, death and destruction on this planet is, and has been, caused by men and the patriarchal system, and that it does not have to be this way because there were once matriarchal societies here that have been carefully omitted from the history and archaeology that gets taught.

Ask yourself, do women make wars? Who mainly fight in the wars? The answer on both counts is that it is men. Look at the world now and ask yourself this question: are the male leaders making a good job of running it? Surely the logical solution is that women should run the world, in other words a matriarchy?

American Indian actor and activist Russell Means believes in matriarchy as the only solution to world problems too and has spoken at length in many YouTube video lectures he has given on the subject.

Dawn Sears, aka hubber BrainFire, believes in a matriachal future for the world too and has published articles about it, as well as running the matriarch lifestyle website and organisation. It was actually Dawn who alerted me to the fact that Rasa's site at Facebook was unavailable again.

Kellie Everts

Before changing her name and becoming known as Guru Rasa von Werder, Kellie Everts became famous for being the "Stripper for God" and also as the first world-recognised female body-builder. In Feb. 2007, the World Body-building Guild awarded her the “progenitor” title, as the founder of “modern competitive female body building.”

She was attacked by many people for her views back then so is no stranger to controversy and so it continues. But ask yourself why Guru Rasa is stirring up so much fuss that she gets her sites banned? Perhaps she is viewed as a serious threat to the corrupt patriarchal system and its values?.

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Yasmeen Stewart 5 years ago

Rasa is a woman with a mission. I do not always agree with her tactics but I believe she has a unique voice that should be allowed to be heard. It shocks me how repressive the world is of her ideas. If she was a male championing the same platform I doubt it would even be controversial.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for posting your comments, Yasmeen!


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alekhouse 5 years ago from Louisville, Kentucky

Really interesting review of an unusual woman. Don't know quite what to make of it. Never heard of her before.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Well, Alekhouse, when her sites are removed it is not surprising that people like yourself haven't heard about her but she has nevertheless achieved fame via the media many times despite all the efforts to shut her up!


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Darlene Sabella 5 years ago from Hello, my name is Toast and Jam, I live in the forest with my dog named Sam ...

Hello my dear Music Man, I have no knowledge of this person, and the idea I have never entertained, because the women that are UP there with power act like men, tough, cold bla bla...like Hillery Clinton, with her pant suits, or Sara Palin whom killed an elk on live TV...however if given a choice I would vote for Ophra as my leadear. Excellent hub, and thought provocking, thank you. Love & peace darsk, rate up


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SomewayOuttaHere 5 years ago from TheGreatGigInTheSky

...that's odd that she'd be banned...from the description you've written i don't see a reason to 'shut her down or rather....shut her up'...hmmmmm....interesting...must have missed it but what country is she from or resides?...thanks for enlightening me....


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Darski! Those types of women you mention have to act that way to be successful among the men they work with and that is why you won't find women who are not like that in power positions!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

SomewayOuttaHere, Rasa is American! Thanks for posting!


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Pleasure Venues 5 years ago from South West US

wow, I remember that show! It was grotesque and was the progenitor of Rush Libaugh's form of attack attack and never give a real platform for debate. Morton Downey and the likes are very skilled or talented to present well versed pedantic and many times rambling diatribes. It's absolutely amazing to see the transition of that entertainment to what we see today. That specific program is "antiquated" by today's standards and examination of sex differences. I think the social atmosphere in 20 years has changed tremendously. The cold war was still alive and the good ol boys club of that era is less apparent. I don't think that program would have social relevance today, in time I really think it's become decompressed, maybe due to women like this who weren't afraid of the the good ol boy net work. neat post


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Pleasure Venues, but it is nevertheless is still the case that Rasa receives unfair and biased treatment from some members of the public and websites such as YouTube and Facebook! I posted the video because it is one of the only ones remaining that people can actually see her and because it shows what she has had to put up with and stand up to in the past!


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lmmartin 5 years ago from Alberta and Florida

She's battling one of the great ingrained problems in our society. Men love to control. Look at what's going on in the US right now as men mount an attack on women's autonomy and rights. The latest? Whackadoodle Rep. Bobby Franklin of Georgia (R) wants to criminalize miscarriages. Yep!

And you wonder why she's being banned?


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

You are right and "ingrained" is an apt description of many people's reactions to her but not all! Thank you for posting!


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Guru Rasa is full of nonsense if she thinks male dynamism is to be put down as mere "aggression". It's also silly to think males have some "crumbling genetic make-up". The very reason we have higher animals for the last 800 million years or so is because of gender separation. If all bisexual worms are pregnant in mating season, they move more slowly and are easy pickings for the birds (a gendered animal), but a pregnant female can be defended better by an aggressive, unburdened male.

And what about Margaret Thatcher who started the Falklands War? Was her goddess-nature inclined to make peace and concede land to the Argentinians to avoid bloodshed? What about when Indira Gandhi ordered the assault on the Golden Temple [Sikh] at Amritsar? Was SHE showing goddess-nature?

Camille Paglia wrote a counterpoint to traditional feminist screeds when she said she admired the dynamism of males. When she drives on a huge suspension-bridge, she realizes this is male-designed and -built. She realizes she owes her job and her freedom to males, particularly the post-war males of the American 1950's who were recently trained in co-operating with each other to a high level of efficiency, contrasted with those wimpy "women's circles" who could take weeks of debate to decide what to have for lunch. If Guru Rasa was banned for spreading hatred about a gender, well good; she should stay banned.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

First of all the crumbling male genes is the opinion of an Oxford professor in human genetics! Who says we are "higher animals"? The behaviour we see all too much of shows little evidence of this!

To answer your second point: Thatcher is a typical example of a woman who has adopted patriarchal male behaviour and values in order to function and succeed among patriarchal males as has Sarah Palin, Hillary Clinton and others.


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

The extreme hostility, violence, humiliation, ridicule, discrimination, battering, abuse, and horrifying treatment Guru Rasa/Kellie Everts received on this video was one of the most disturbing public displays, (on TV) of male abuse against a women. Today this outrageous behavior would not fly in a court of law.

It disturbs me even more that some people, like the partriarch men featured in it, are numb to this. The point to it, is to advance beyond this counterproductive behavior, and rise above it. Would you feel comfortable if this was your friend, relative, mother, daughter. All people do still have the right to become anything they wish. Would you feel comfortable with those rights being stripped from you?

Had this show been created through LOVE, it certainly would not have gone to such depths of the eternal bog of stench. Men brought it to the lowest level possible, and were proud to do so. If you watch the mannerisms/body language of each one you will see they really loved trashing other people. Especially the foul mouth, battering Downey, From a female stand point he and the others happen to be a major "Turn Off". They are low level bottom feeders, who create trash to gain attention.

I can tell each one of the men lied profusely throughout the show. Not one of these big bad boys could speak the truth. I am willing to bet that each one went home that night, and savored all the womens pictures, and videos for their own pleasure. I bet they still have the very same pics, and videos today!

Aren't we lucky to have such tyrannical forces controlling the garbage put out by TV, and the wonderful senator who lied through his teeth on video. Come forth with their hard drives now, let's see who's jiving who here! Shuck and Jive me some more.

This is outrageous behavior against any women! It was uncalled for, unprofessional, and beyond foul. Had I been on the show, I would have called the police in as soon as he pushed her. The whole thing is horrendous, and detrimental to society, and our advancement as a race.

The quality of life these guys threw away, was replaced by the front of the patriarch.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your comments, Dawn! I agree and posted the video because it shows what Rasa has fought against and fights and because it is one of the only videos we can still see her in after YouTube deleted all the others she had made!


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

It's hardly "quality of life" to retain bad ideas. The male dynamic efficiently roots through error, and feminists have been guilty of the most egregious lies, thinking their cause justifies it:

--They want to distort the origins of human language itself. Del Martin claimed in 1970 at the [American] National Organization of Women that the phrase "rule of thumb" originated from an English law allowing men to beat their wives if the switch was no thicker than their thumbs. Of course, this came as a surprise to British jurists, who know that England has been writing down its laws for over 1,000 years. They even found a 1692 English law against wife-abuse. Yet this lie has been treated as truth because of its value for female solidarity, as feminists cluck-cluck about "how bad things were in the past!" The late author Douglas Adams, among others, condemned this distortion of history.

--They want to create a skewed "family court" system. Most men don't think about the skewed legal system until they divorce and fall victims to it. The feminist intelligentsia latched onto certain findings that anthropologists found when they went to remote Amazon tribes. They found a primitive tribe where the women lived alone with the children, and the men lived in separate huts, and they wanted to project this as a kind of "natural norm" for all of society -- ignoring the fact that the far superior civilizations in their hundreds of millions have been organized according to male-female nuclear families. Yet this extreme feminist attitude is now the attitude of all the "family" courts that decide child-custody 95% in favor of the woman. The woman would have to show signs of both drug-abuse AND child-abuse before they would even begin to consider giving a man sole custody of his children. But if the woman has only ONE such trait, well that's okay, it's still the woman's children!

The woman is allowed to hide sources of income and impose, through court systems, ruinous systems of alimony and child-support on the man. One man was being charged 100% of his salary, and could not apply for Welfare because he was earning a salary on paper. So he committed suicide by rigging his car-exhaust up to his car-window with rubber-tubing, asphyxiating himself with his last tank of gas. A strong, capable being was reduced to dead flesh because of the State.

--Remember the Tailhook scandal against the U.S. Navy? A woman made an accusation of being gang-raped by sailors. When a woman makes such an accusation, she benefits from the fact the legal system is set up with chivalrous impulses: that women are frail creatures in need of protection, and are automatically to be listened to. Issues of evidence, avoidance of hearsay, and all other legal standards go out the window. Eventually it was realized she lied about her testimony and the chivalrous impulses to entertain her complaint could no longer be sustained.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I never mentioned feminism and neither did Guru Rasa who is not a feminist!


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

Nor am I...However I am a True born Matriarch, from a double family line of Matriarchs, and my aunt who is 97 teaches aerobics classes in florida. None of us have ever been supported by a man, nor will we be. No men on either side of the family make decisions, only the women in charge. The oldest Mother is the Crone of the family, and it's passed onto to the next oldest in line. My entire family line dating back as far as the late 1800's was recognized as unusual and non traditional.

What I am hearing in the comments here is words spoken from preconditioning, and repetitious influence from patriarchs, tyrants, and more. You were raised in a patriarch society, and you now have an OPINION. You are a macho product of your upbringing, and turn a blinds eye to blatant abuse before you. Tailoring YOUR OPINION to fit your previous patriarch conditioning.

If I didn't know any better, I would say you are siding with the men in this horrific abusive display against women. I hope you're not single!

Your machoism is fake, and behind closed doors, it has been proven that most macho macho guys actually worship women...secretly. Like the ones in this video.

Hey pierre! Are you publicly condoning this type of behavior? Did you realize you are reaching the level of "Major Turn Off"? Woman to man...MY Opinion:)


Sophia Angelique 5 years ago

Many of the African tribes are matriarchal. I think the Xhosa are matriarchal - either them or the Zulus. Can't remember which. Was part of my anthropology college course. Long time ago. :)


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Those are not very successful tribes, and the Zulus spread way faster. But neither has been as successful as the hundreds of millions: Chinese, Hindus, Westerners, who come from nuclear families.

I am not going to be dissuaded by ridiculous "Matriarchs" into condemning these injustices. If you have "matriarchal" beliefs that is feminist beliefs and you have cut 50% of humanity out from your existence. You must realize that, historically, matriarchy existed only for so long as males didn't realize they caused pregnancy. There WAS a time in our cave-man past where we didn't realize it. But when one enterprising male, the first scientist, realized from a testing of indulgence and abstinence, the former veneration of women as a mysterious source of new life was swept away. Instead males realized they were responsible for the new life, and swept away the matriarchal altars and replaced it with the menhirs, the phallic worship-stones. Of course now we realize that men and women genetically contribute 50% of genetic material each.


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

Willing to display ignorance publicly, ehh pierre? I think you should arm yourself with some factual data before treading into territories you are obviously ignorant about. It's ok though, I expect you to be ignorant about something that has been kept from you, by your patriarch leaders, and your obvious bitterness towards women.

You are using isolated cases in history of a corrupt system...Do you study statistics, do you know how many deaths took place under patriarchal order today, last month, last year? Are you even aware of anything of value on this subject, where you could actually speak intelligently. I see a lot of verbal diareah, direct female disrespect, and nothing of value coming from you.

There are many Matriarch groups in our culture in the past, and today. Start with the Amazonians, research Alaska, and then study all of it for the next 30 years...then get back to me. You are on a hub that PROMOTES MATRIARCHY, has this dawned on you?

Are you part of the opposition? Spewing negativity from your patriarchal upbringing? If so, most people are fed up with patriarchs, so good luck with that!

The world is searching daily for the Matriarchs who WILL save the human race...This is pure mathematics, stats and keyword proof beyond a shadow of any doubt. As a matter of fact I just shared these stats with Bard, so he too can verify this.

Good luck with your outlook and attitude issues, pierre, and know this...I love you in spite of what you were never told, or prevented from knowing while you were growing up. Most people are shielded from the truth their entire life. Some of us make it our business to know these things. I am one who knows, I spent most of my life studying particular things relevant to life. Matriarchy actually comes out as the mathematical equation, (the answer) to the mathematical problem of society today. The solution for balance of life on this planet, at this time.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Don't try to invoke conspiracy, sweetie. It will only give you TWO things to prove: that your nonsense about matriarchy is correct, and that there has been some conspiracy to hide it. The direct, forthright male approach to the universe, where things can be controlled and manipulated, wins out over the uncertain, hesitant feminine religious mysteries, where everything happens suddenly and at random for unknown reasons, like a girl's first menstruation, changing everything.

I have just made a hub to show the foibles of feminism, just in time for International Women's Day. I have yet to hear an apology for the "rule of thumb" urban myth...lol.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Pierre, what are you on about feminism again for? This hub is about matriarchy! You don't appear to like women very much be they matriarchs or feminists! Have you anything positive to add here?

"The direct, forthright male approach to the universe" has been as far as I can tell to dominate, beat, crush, plunder, destroy or kill whatever is in its way and to play God over matters it cannot understand such as it is currently doing with GE crops and experimentation! As a male I am very ashamed of the patriarchal abuse and deaths of billions of people, the destruction and extinction of wildlife and the massive damage done to the environment everywhere humans have gone! I do not have to look far to see evidence of this!

You bring the "conspiracy" word into this and yes, I would say there is very much a conspiracy in evidence over matriarchal societies and cultures that have existed because this stuff is very much kept out of what is taught to the masses just as women such as Guru Rasa have so many attempts to exclude her from having a platform to speak up!

You appear to equate success with numbers when referring to tribes and races of people even though the human population increase is the source of many problems today in the world under a patriarchal system.

You also use the word "manipulated" when describing the male approach and yes, indeed, I see how the patriarchal system with its controlled media, dominator male-god religions and biased education system has successfully manipulated the minds of billions of people brought up within its reach! The results of this we see in the world today with wars, starvation, crime, drug abuse, suicides, cruelty to animals, violent and abusive sex crimes, destruction and pollution of the environment, and untold suffering! All the products of the "male approach" and "manipulation" I would say!


Sophia Angelique 5 years ago

Pierre, I'm fascinated that you say that both the Zulus and the Xhosas are failed systems. Um, which planet are you living on? They are the bigagest tribes in South Africa (and there are 11 or 16 of them). Nelson Mandela is a prince of the Xhosa people. The only opposition the Xhosas had when South Africa gave up apartheid was the Zula people. The other tribes didn't even come close.

Of course, if by 'failed' you mean 'not industrialized', well, please consider that none of the other 1036 (that's a fictitious number but I don't know how many tribes there are in Africa)tribes in Africa were industrialized either. And they were patiarchal. The Xhosas, who are the biggest tribe in South Africa, are matriarchal.


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pointblank009 5 years ago from Buffalo

This woman is not known to me. Her views on women running the world presents a seemingly interesting alternative until you think about the women you've known in life and reflect on how confrontational and petty (warlike) many of them are (Mrs Porter our old next-door-neighbor comes to mind). Don't overlook that it was women who started a lot of riots with false rape accusations in the old south. Don't ignore Condoleeza Rice' role as one of Bush's old warhawks; she was completely for bombing Iraq and Afghanistan during Ramadan.

This women and you seem to feel if women ran the world everything would be sugar and spice and everythings nice. Don't fool yourself, many women are emotionally unstable; great tragedy can happen due to decisions they make and want people to follow in that moment. For example would you want Sudanese author/exhile Kola Boof running the world? One minute she hates men, next minute she loves men. There are many women of such character out there. Hillary, Condi, and Palin are dangerous also because they remind me of some women cops; always tryin to be one of the guys.

While I admit this concept looks good in science fiction, I'm very leery of it as a reality.


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Joyus Crynoid 5 years ago from Eden

Fascinating hub and discussion. Matriarchy makes a lot of sense to me. The problems that beset the industrialized world are caused by a lack of balance, and single-minded male domination--testosterone poisoning as it were--is a big part of that equation. Thanks for bringing Guru Rasa to our attention!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your comments, Sophia, pointblank009 and Joyus Crinoid!

Pointblank009, I wish to point out that the type of women in power that you mention have adopted patriarchal male behaviour in order to be accepted and to function in a male-run system! They are a minority and cannot be given as good examples of women but rather as women acting like men!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Great hub Bard! I did not know of her before reading this either. I must say - I do like a woman who wants to speak out about these kinds of abuses. She is a tough woman, I like that in a lady:-)


Sophia Angelique 5 years ago

Best man in the cabinet used to be Margaret Thatcher... :)


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, RealHousewife for your comments and for your latest, Sophia!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Hahaha! Sophia! Thank you as always, Bard. You always give something well worthy!


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Bail Up ! 5 years ago

Matriarchy system ruling the world, interesting concept. It's not so far fetched when you consider less developed and less intelligent species at one time ruled, I'm sure we could do better than that in this age and time. The problem herein lies that regardless we are human, At some point or another greed, power may factor in and upset the well meaningless of the system. Just a thought, thanks for a thought provoking hub Bard.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for your feedback too!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Sure - I'm still waiting to see the video - my oldest got off work on Friday at 5 here - more tornadoes were coming so she hightailed it out of town for the weekend! We are sick of tornado sirens and strong winds here! I think she was afraid she would get stuck in the basement with the rest of us all weekend:) haha - that would suck for a 22 year old!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

There was a storm here end of November with some of the highest winds this island has ever had and it went on and on for three days, ripping off roofs and causing havoc so I can understand in part what you are going through!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

You know - it was like some kind of Deja - when Maddy ran down the stairs to see what the weather was like on Fri. Before dressing for school - she announced, "it's warm!" I didn't smile. Sure enough that early evening - and I think we lost a local star bucks in that one:-0 !


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

Let's look at some mathematics. Indisputable facts and figures. My belief of your current status (the hostile and negative way you're responding) is due to an improper chemical balance. (show me the blood work!) You exhibit certain things that may get by others, but not me. You should realize when you speak you give yourself away. You expose things you may not be aware of. Start with blood work to test your nutrients, and check your PH level. You seem to be too acidic which could later lead to other type health problems.

Once you've confirmed I'm right, then you could work on your approach towards women. It may get you more than ever imagined. The road rage approach will fail miserably. Put a smile on and say ok I am not the end all be all, and yes a woman could guide you to accomplish this overhaul of personality flaws. You are merely a product of your environment, you were NOT given all the facts. I already give you a handicap for that. However when you meet people in your travels that are more educated on a subject than you are, you show respect, not hostility. Otherwise you will instantly cut yourself off from critical facts that will apply to your future.

Pay attention to what I said pierre, I mentioned mathematics, stats, world searches, keywords, and more data than you could read in a day. These are the facts you cannot argue with, they're indisputable.

By the way I'm definitely not YOUR sweetie, learn to address people properly, and show a little respect. It will get you much further in life. Show LOVE not hate!

Redemption would be a good approach, along with humbling the egotistical, macho shell. It's unproductive to continue in a manner that knowingly failed before us right now.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

The only way we go back to a matriarchy is if we go back to a reduced food-supply (50x less before science), condemning 98% of the population to die. Go ahead, choose. That's what "back to the land" thinking is going to bring. Also we would have to be ignorant of the facts of reproduction and that males have something to do with it. That was the cave-man state of affairs the LAST time matriarchy was popular. But we've progressed from there, just like nobody is a nature-worshipper now or believes in the Greek myths.

Claims that men commit the majority of violence are meaningless. Men commmit the majority of everything, they are more engaged in the business of running the planet to suit human beings. They have created comfort and freedom from disease, oh, and they've invited their girlfriends along too. It was no fun being in the matriarchies along the Gambia River, suffering from river-blindness and fully expecting to go blind by age 30, because your matriarchal culture didn't encourage science and finding out that it was all caused by those invisible parasites. It took a patriarchal culture, the Europeans, to find out the reasons in a few decades, and solve the problem to make that whole land truly inhabitable, and you got to keep your vision.


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

Please Sign the Petition enforcing Womens Rights! We need all the signatures we can get!

http://www.change.org/petitions/petition-to-allow-...?opt_new=f&opt_fb=t

Thank You for your support of Womens Rights! Love and hugs!


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wabond 5 years ago from England

Hi Pierre

If we think about women ruling the world then this will be done by policians and not by scientists. It is male politicians who rule our world at the present moment. Matiarchy is about us being ruled by female policians. Scientists, whether male or female, have very little political power.


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Eiddwen 5 years ago from Wales

Hi,

A very interesting hub. This is what I love about HP is the variety of subjects to read and we learn so much no matter how old we are .

Thank you so much for sharing,

Take care

Eiddwen.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for posting your petition, Dawn! I have signed it!

Thank you for your explanation, William!

Thanks for your comments, Eiddwen!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

When someone suggests to me that the natural shift towards a Female Centric Society should be stopped, I suggest they stand on the beach and try to keep the tide from coming in. It should have about the same results.


Devblue 5 years ago

I agree with Guru Rasa that women are superior to men.But the enemy of women is women not men.And the day women succeeds in getting rid of their emotions,then only will they be really superior to men.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for that great comment, gguy!


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wabond 5 years ago from England

The reason why women would be better rulers of the world is because of their nuturing emotions and instinct.

Men make terrible rulers because they are so competitive and aggressive and tend to solve problems through force, violence and warfare.

Women on the other hand have a powerful maternal instinct and a Matriarchal government will want to mother,nurture and care for the people they rule. This is why we would all be better off living under a Matriarchal government.

Once people understand this, then they will always want to vote for Matriarchal goverments.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Unfortunately they are not currently given the choice but only have patriarchal political parties so get more of the same!


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sligobay 5 years ago from east of the equator

This is a fascinating article and makes valid points. I vote for women. Thank you Bard of Ely.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

We need to be patient as we move towards Matriarchy, but it is happening!!!


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graceomalley 5 years ago

I believe the controlling party in Iceland is the Women's Party.

Could anyone boil down for me the difference between feminism and matriarchy? Are they just two different animals?


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for posting, sligobay, gguy and graceomalley!

To answer your question, graceomalley, I see it this way: feminists believe in making women equal to men so they demand equal rights and strive for equal positions in society. Followers of a matriarchal system believe the sexes are not equal because the women are superior by birth and so should be in charge. This is based on science too because women have two X chromosomes and men only one - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_chromosome. Women usually live longer than men as well. Also of course all life comes from the mother not the father and thus we have the concept of Mother Earth of which we are but children. There are animals species including reptiles, fish, crustaceans and insects that can reproduce without males which again suggests that the female is a superior gender because the male is unnecessary with these species. There are no male only species of life.


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sligobay 5 years ago from east of the equator

Here's the obstacle. Wealth. Though much of the wealth comes to women by longevity and inheritance; these are women who have acquired wealth under the patriarchal system and whose interests are inextricably linked with their power and wealth status with men and their wars. War is a profitable pursuit. Eighty percent of the world's wealth is concentrated in the hands of one percent of the world's population. Gender superiority is not a sufficient impetus to the women controlling the wealth to effectuate any meaningful change.


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crystolite 5 years ago from Houston TX

Nice hub,very organized piece of work.thanks for sharing.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

sligobay, yes, indeed, you make a very valid point! The Queen is of course an example of an incredibly wealthy and powerful woman whose riches are all founded on a patriarchal system and wars administered by men!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Good point there about wealth on the top end. However as far as the middle class goes, the earning power of Women is rapidly rising and judging by their academic progress, will continue to increase even more rapidly. Therefore I think the power shift will spread from the middle class upwards.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Another good point, gguy! Yes, you are right that women are doing better and better both with jobs and earnings and in education!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Bard, let's face it Women have always been superior, but because of technology etc, the time is right for gender rebalancing. I spoke with Dawn yesterday, and I am very impressed with her views and ideas on Matriarchy.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I am glad to hear you have been in touch with Dawn! Thanks for posting!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Yes, I believe it will be Women like her that will be our leaders!!


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ubalildon 5 years ago

nice hub really...


Rasa Von Werder 5 years ago

I just got to see this now Steve as I was away for six days. Thank you for it - & there is such a good feedback & some of the friends are wonderful!

Steve, I have a long list of LEGAL names. Rasa Von Werder is my legal name, so is Rasa Kellie Everts, it's a real long name & I chop it up into parts. Everts was my first husband, Von Werder my second. Kellie was a stage name, but after using it 20 years I have it on many legal documents, so am known by it.

As far as feminism, the feminist movement is a movement of women fighting for their rights. The emphasis was once on equality. We are past that now, & I started calling it "female empowerment" & of course we are MOVING TOWARD MATRIARCHY.

Will write more later after studying all these comments, I love some of them.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for posting and explaining your name, Rasa! I am so glad you are pleased with this!


Rasa Von Werder 5 years ago

Friends, Women & men are not equal in reproductive, males do not give 50% of the Power to reproduce. IN fact, male sperm is not reproductive at all, it is only DNA given to the woman to reproduce. IN a petri dish, you connect electrodes to an ovum ( women 's egg) & it begins to grow into a fetus, whereupon it can be inserted into the womb to grow into a child. A sperm is not a reproductive cell. In a petri dish, sperm dies. Women are reproductive, men are not. Men are therefore, EXPENDABLE in terms of biology. One male can produce millions of sperm, but a woman is needed, in the ideal conditions, for several years to gestate & nurture a baby until its immune system develop0s - up to six years old. Males have an instinct to protect women & children, so they have a lot of testosterone, a chemical that makes them take great risks, even to the point of being careless or reckless. The chemical gives him great courage, but often at his own peril. Women don't have this, they are extremely self protective, & for a reason of protecting themselves & their children.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your comments and explanation, Rasa!


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

This is the second hub you've done on Guru Rasa and both of them are filled with passionate and sometimes fiery comments. I love them both and loved reading all the comments from everyone, for the most part.

I would hate to think that all men are going to dissappear because of their genetics. There are many many men who just don't have the overly aggressive and destructive tendancies that are so prevalent among some groups of men. You are a good example of that, Steve! While I have no proof, I have a feeling that it is the overly aggressive and destructive tendancies that we are going to say good-bye to and not all of men.

Mother Nature has always had a way of getting rid of harmful life. Think of the destruction of the Dinosaurs yet, not all reptiles were destroyed. And 2012 is fast approaching ushering in a time of great change. But what kind of change or it's magnitude we do not know. Maybe it is part of the coming change that those that carry the overly aggressive and destructive tendencies (both men and women) will no longer be needed and the genetic code that creates those tendancies will be ended. Let's face it infertility has been a growing problem for quite some time now.

It will be a wonderful time when the true matriarchal power comes back into the world and women, once again, are in charge!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your comments, Teresa! I am very glad you appreciate these hubs about Rasa! btw this actually the third hub because there is an interview, another one about her site being banned and this one.


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

I think I missed the interview one. I remember reading about her being banned before. I remember thinking how banning Rasa was just another indication of how Fear and Censorship are methods used by people in power to control the masses.

I'll have to look the interview up and read it.

BTW, I signed BrainFire's petition. I hope others have as well.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you again, Teresa, and I hope you enjoy the interview!


kimberlyslyrics 5 years ago

what a fantastic Hub!

Thank you


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank YOU, Kimberlyslyrics, for appreciating it!


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

My knee jerk reaction when I hear someone claim to be God, is, "Well, I don't see a god, but I do see a God-damned fool." At face value, those sound like harsh words, but they are not meant that way, they are not even meant as cuss-words.

What I mean by that is, the true God does not take kindly to his creations claiming to be Him and deceiving others into thinking they are some kind of god either. God says, "a fool hath said in his heart there is no God." To claim to be god is really not much different.

They simply are not. Having a bunch of butt-kissing yes men or even henchmen to kill anyone who contests your claims does not make you a god, but rather a pathetic murderer.

Semarimis was Queen of Babylon. Any of her subjects who did not worship her or believe in her diety, were sacrificed to her. Likewise, many of her subjects volunteered for the ultimate act of adoration and worship of the "holy mother." Others were sacrificed out of convenience.

Molech, a large statue with cupped stone hands was designed with hands shapped like a bowl. Beneath his hands a large fire could be made so that his stone hands would turn orange from the extreme heat. During various celebrations, the faithful would toss their children into the stone hands so that they would slowly burn to death. Their suffering and cries were music to Molec's ears. The really faithful adult follower volunteered to enter the hands of Molech.

For this ritual, their hands and feet were bound by long ropes. Several strong men would grab the ropes and swing the person into Molech until their arms and legs were visibly broken and they were covered in blood. Then they would swing them up into the red-hot hands of Molech. This was so the adult could not jump out of Molech's hands if the ropes burned free or came loose.

Their sacrifices grew so bloody the tribes of Shinar were so incensed they rode into Babylon and killed the armies and the King (Nimrod). His queen fled into Egypt where she continued business usual, though over time sacrifices were gernerally made with slaves and not her own people.

History is littered with the bloody feats of women leaders. The whole point I guess is women leaders can be just as bloody as male leaders. We are all created in God's image, for some that means being awesome singers, musicians, artists, managers, workers, etc. but it does not make anyone a god themselves.

Those who claim to be a god or goddess are merely a god-damned fool, being damned by God for their arrogant blasphemy.

That's how I see it. However, I am always willing to see some god-damned fool prove otherwise, if they can.

I don't require much. Can they heal the sick? Heal a nation? Can they wave their hand and fix Japan?

I like this hub, I am glad to be aware of these folks, though I would have liked to learn more of her doctrines. I support her right to say whatever, I don't see why she keeps getting kicked off her blogs, unless she is breaking the rules by violating some TOS by recruiting people into a religion or club. Being a god-damned fool is not a crime. I am sure the guru would regard me in the same way. That's ok with me.

-Harlan


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Well, personally I think that you have fallen into the Biblical belief system of believing that God is a threatening, punishing God as portrayed in the Bible and I don't agree with that at all that God is like that. As for Rasa, if you want to know what she has to say I suggest you have a look at the links that I posted at the end of my article. Thank you for posting!


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Harlan Colt 5 years ago from the Rocky Mountains

Bard,

Forgive me, I have failed you. I don't think God is a threatening, punishing God either. I think a God who became a man and died in my place is a love story of self sacrifice that sets Christ apart from other deities.

If you were barely hanging onto a cliff and I thrust down my hand and said, grab my hand let me pull you up, and you say... no thanks that's threatening and punishing...

I would be seriously confused.

WE are ALL hanging on the cliff, because of Adam and Eve's fall from perfection, even if we never ever sin, we are still imperfect via heredity. Christ's sacrifice is the hand thrust out to pull us up... if you don't grab the hand... you don't get pulled up, and eventually you fall into the pit.

One cannot blame God for not grabbing his hand, that doesn't make sense.

I will look at the links you provided. I always enjoy learning from others, even if I disagree. It is through our challenges that we grow, if you spend your life drinking cool-aid, you don't grow much.

I look forward to future hubs from you,

-Best Wishes

-Harlan


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

We will have to agree to disagree then because I don't believe the Bible and am not a Christian as you clearly are! I do believe very much in God though. I do not feel any need for anyone to 'save' me nor am I seeking for religious path although I was as a younger man. Re the Bible, which I have read in its entirety and am very familiar with, I would say that the New Testament, although not handing out anywhere near as many threats and condemnations nor stating what constitutes an 'abomination' punishable by death, nevertheless still has the threatening tones especially in the Book of Revelation, which in fact, ends with a threatening warning about the Book of Life does it not?


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Adnohr 5 years ago from Canada

Wow! It took hours to read this hub and the comments! Fascinating!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for doing so and posting!


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CMHypno 5 years ago from Other Side of the Sun

Interesting stuff Bard. I don't understand people's mentality sometimes, as I don't agree with a lot of websites or opinions, but they have a right to say what they want as long as it is within the law. If you don't agree with something just state your piece and move on. It's also interesting that so many men are still so threatened by the idea of matriarchy, which shows that, unfortunately, there are probably still way too many men out there who do not really believe that us women are equal (let alone superior LOL!) despite what they may be portraying to the outside world


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for your thoughts, CMHypno!


Jalus 5 years ago

This is actually the first time I have read anything about Guru Rasa. (that Morton Downey fellow seems like a real tool - wow) I will have to do some research on her. Seems fascinating. Thanks!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I am happy to have introduced you to her!


Bruce A. Knight 5 years ago

Give us a break, Facebook! Agree with her or not, she has the right to express her views.


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crystolite 5 years ago from Houston TX

Thank you for posting your comments I like it


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, crystolite!


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

Steve, I was stuck in my apt. the last few days without a computer, or else I would have made many comments here. Right now have been up all night & need sleep, but I am amazed at how much traffic your hub gets. I see someone posting passionately about Christianity. There is much to say about this. I used to be a Christian minister & I know what I speak of. I left behind the confines of Christianity & see it's great points & the bad points. The bad points are that people aren't practicing it. Jesus Christ came & went, & most of his followers aren't like him! They have a cold & cruel view on the Wiccans & Pagans - which are religions of Mother God. The Christians, Jews & all Patriarchs, are haters of Mother God. Ancient enemies, the Christians were the demons in the Inquisition. I have much to say to this man because I have received as a Christian all the Gifts of the Holy Spirit including the grace of Martyrdom, called the Interior Divine Stigmata. But I know that we must love God as Mother, not Father, & yes, She is NOTHING like the men who run the Patriarchal religions, nothing like them at all.

I will post more later, I do have much to say but am too groggy now.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Rasa! I had been wondering how you were! I haven't been sleeping so well because of my sadness and worry about Japan and what has happened!


Mercurius Trismegistus 5 years ago

FACEBOOK NEEDS MOTHERGOD!


AntonOftheNorth 5 years ago

Hi Bard!

New to Hub and this article so late to the conversation

Thanks for writing it. Its the first Hub I've seen where I had to think a bit before responding, (and thanks Rasa for joining in. I confess I was not familiar with your work before now.

I've seen a lot more postings in response to this post that I would call much more objectionable than anything Bard has aluded to here about Rasa's work.

I'm not sure how I feel about Matriarchy. I don't have negative feelings about it (male myself, just for the record). I've done a very little anthropological study in some matriarchal based societies. (this provided just for context)

I am leary of any system that excludes members or attributes that are part of it. I don't argue the point that most of the ills in the world can be attributed to patriarchal constructs, but I also feel that a just, whole society must include the values of the whole in some fashion, not just the parts that are considered valuable by the dominant. (I think that's what we have that now with the current patriarchal model, the dominant faction having backed its dominance up with violence). Does matriarchal mean the same kind of exclusion from the other direction?

I'm not at all opposed to the notion of women in control of society. My mother was in control of our family, but even she felt that she would accept my Dad's decision on things solely because he was the 'man of the house' and that was how she was taught. I always thought that was silly.

I guess I need to research matriarchy a bit more so I can determine exactly how you define it. Far be it from me to say I don't like something without knowing what it is. Thanks for making me think.

cheers


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

Steve, I was stuck in my apt. the last few days without a computer, or else I would have made many comments here. Right now have been up all night & need sleep, but I am amazed at how much traffic your hub gets. I see someone posting passionately about Christianity. There is much to say about this. I used to be a Christian minister & I know what I speak of. I left behind the confines of Christianity & see it's great points & the bad points. The bad points are that people aren't practicing it. Jesus Christ came & went, & most of his followers aren't like him! They have a cold & cruel view on the Wiccans & Pagans - which are religions of Mother God. The Christians, Jews & all Patriarchs, are haters of Mother God. Ancient enemies, the Christians were the demons in the Inquisition. I have much to say to this man because I have received as a Christian all the Gifts of the Holy Spirit including the grace of Martyrdom, called the Interior Divine Stigmata. But I know that we must love God as Mother, not Father, & yes, She is NOTHING like the men who run the Patriarchal religions, nothing like them at all.

I will post more later, I do have much to say but am too groggy now.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

BrainFire 10 days ago

The extreme hostility, violence, humiliation, ridicule, discrimination, battering, abuse, and horrifying treatment Guru Rasa/Kellie Everts received on this video was one of the most disturbing public displays, (on TV) of male abuse against a women. Today this outrageous behavior would not fly in a court of law.

RASA ANSWERS: INDEED. I SUED HIM FOR 40 MIL FOR HIS ILLEGAL ACTIONS TOWARD ME. IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO AIR MY VIEWS AGAINST TREATMENT OF WOMEN BY PATRIARCHY. THE LAWSUIT GARNERED 5 MORE TV SHOWS INCLUDING “ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT” & A “PEOPLE ARE TALKING” SHOW BASED ON THE LAWSUIT – WHERE THEY BASHED ME EVEN HARDER. I WAS ON ALL THE NEWS, & FRONT PAGE OF THE NEW YORK LAW JOURNAL. RECENTLY, A DOCUMENTARY WAS DONE ON THE LIFE OF MORTON DOWNEY JR. & I AM THE STAR OF IT. IT WILL BE FEATURED AT ALL THE FILM FESTIVALS LIKE CANNES & SUNDANCE, & ON PBS. DONE BY AWARD-WINNING IRONBOUND FILMS – NINE MEN SPENT ALL DAY WITH ME WORKING THE INTERVIEW & MY DANCING WITH YOUNG MALES DOWNTOWN.

WHAT YOU DON’T SEE HERE – THIS IS THE EDITED VERSION – IS MUCH REPARTEE WHERE I PUT DOWNEY & OTHER MEN INTO THEIR PLACE, SOUNDLY – THE BRUTALITY TOWARD ME WAS ALSO SOFTENED BY EDITING. THE WOMEN WERE COWARDS & INSTEAD OF STICKING WITH ME – ONE LEFT THE SHOW, THE OTHER TWO JOINED FORCES AGAINST ME, ALBEIT LAMEY.

I WIPED THE FLOOR WITH ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I HAVE THE ANOINTING; THE POWER OF MOTHER GOD, & IT WAS FULLY ACTIVATED AFTER THREE MONTHS OF PREPARATION & PRAYER. I STUDIED; REHEARSED, TOGETHER WITH A BEST FRIEND LAWYER. I KNEW I WOULD TAKE ON THE DRAGON NO OTHER WOMAN COUJLD BEAT - & I BEAT HIM. ST. JOAN OF ARC APPEARED TO ME AT ONE POINT, PUT A POWERFUL LIGHT INTO MY HEAD, & SAID SHE GAVE ME HER COURAGE. THIS WAS SIMILAR TO A BLACK PERSON IN THE SOUTH, BEFORE CIVIL RIGHTS, STANDING UP TO THE WHITE SHERIFF & HIS GOONS ALL AT ONCE. WOMEN IN THE ADULT TRADE, HERE & ELSEWHERE, FOR A LONG TIME HAVE BEEN OPEN SEASON FOR PATRIARCHS. BASHING, HUMILIATING, RIDICULING, EVEN KILLING FEMALE SEX TRADE WORKERS, IS CONSIDERED PAR FOR THE COURSE. THIS IS THE BATTLE I FACED & WON. THIS WAS PART OF MY WORK FOR GOD, THE THEATER WHERE I HAVE PLAYED MANY PARTS – ONE OF THOSE BEING THE FEMALE USUALLY VICTIMIZED IN THE SEX TRADE, WHO OPENS HERSELF TO MALE VIOLENCE. I DEMONSTRATED A WOMAN COULD PREVENT BEING THEIR VICTIM BY USING THE POWER OF GOD,. WHEN I STOOD UP TO SPEAK I FELT THE FIELD OF ENERGY EXPAND A MILE AROUND ME – GOD IS INVINCIBLE & WHEN YOU HAVE GOD POWER, NO ONE CAN DEFEAT YOU.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

BrainFire says: It disturbs me even more that some people, like the partriarch men featured in it, are numb to this. The point to it, is to advance beyond this counterproductive behavior, and rise above it. Would you feel comfortable if this was your friend, relative, mother, daughter. All people do still have the right to become anything they wish. Would you feel comfortable with those rights being stripped from you?

RASA SAYS: THERE ARE TWO OPPOSITE POLES HERE, MALE & FEMALE. IT’S A BATTLE OF GENDERS, WHO WILL DOMINATE? AS DOMINATORS, WILLIAM BOND POINTS OUT, MEN ARE TYRANTS. GIVE THEM POWER & YOU FEEL THEIR BRUTAL HEEL ON YOUR FACE. WOMEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE NURTURERS, DESIGNED BY GOD TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE, & SO, THEREFORE, THEY ARE JUDICIOUS & VALUABLE LEADERS, THEY ACTUALLY TAKE CARE RATHER THAN EXPLOIT & OPPRESS. THANK WILLIAM BOND FOR THIS THOUGHT WHICH IS WHOLLY RIGHTEOUS & I BRING IT UP ALL THE TIME, TOGETHER WITH MANY OF HIS OTHER INSIGHTS.

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BrainFire says:

Had this show been created through LOVE, it certainly would not have gone to such depths of the eternal bog of stench. Men brought it to the lowest level possible, and were proud to do so. If you watch the mannerisms/body language of each one you will see they really loved trashing other people. Especially the foul mouth, battering Downey, From a female stand point he and the others happen to be a major "Turn Off". They are low level bottom feeders, who create trash to gain attention.

I can tell each one of the men lied profusely throughout the show. Not one of these big bad boys could speak the truth. I am willing to bet that each one went home that night, and savored all the womens pictures, and videos for their own pleasure. I bet they still have the very same pics, and videos today!

Aren't we lucky to have such tyrannical forces controlling the garbage put out by TV, and the wonderful senator who lied through his teeth on video. Come forth with their hard drives now, let's see who's jiving who here! Shuck and Jive me some more.

This is outrageous behavior against any women! It was uncalled for, unprofessional, and beyond foul. Had I been on the show, I would have called the police in as soon as he pushed her. The whole thing is horrendous, and detrimental to society, and our advancement as a race.

The quality of life these guys threw away, was replaced by the front of the patriarch.

RASA SAYS: BRAINFIRE YOU HAVE A LOT OF INSIGHT.

THAT SENATOR WAS A MAFIA MAN – I LATER FOUND OUT – WHO REGULARLY HAD PROSTITUTES COME TO SERVICE HIMSELF & THE MEN IN HIS EMPLOY. I GUY WHO ONCE THERE TOLD ME SO.

THE BLOND WHO SAID SHE NEVER SO MUCH AS SHARED A DRINK WITH A MAN AT THE BARS, AFTERWARD IN THE LIMO, TOLD ME THAT SHE WAS BISEXUAL (NO BIG DEAL) & WORKED IN PORNO VIDEOS (AGAIN, NO JUDGMENT HERE, JUST BRING OUT THE HYPOCRISY, THE LIES YOU SENSED).

THE ONLY PERSON THERE SPEAKING THE TRUTH & REPRESENTING HERSELF FAIRLY WAS MYSELF. LOOK AT ALL THOSE PHONY GUYS COMING UP CONDEMNING ME – ALL THE “GOOD DADS” – THE COP – YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT WAS HIDING IN THEIR CLOSETS. ANY MAN WHO PORTRAYS HIMSELF TO BE “WITHOUT SIN” HAS GOT TO BE A JOKE.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

Pierre Savoie 10 days ago

It's hardly "quality of life" to retain bad ideas. The male dynamic efficiently roots through error, and feminists have been guilty of the most egregious lies, thinking their cause justifies it:

--They want to distort the origins of human language itself. Del Martin claimed in 1970 at the [American] National Organization of Women that the phrase "rule of thumb" originated from an English law allowing men to beat their wives if the switch was no thicker than their thumbs. Of course, this came as a surprise to British jurists, who know that England has been writing down its laws for over 1,000 years. They even found a 1692 English law against wife-abuse. Yet this lie has been treated as truth because of its value for female solidarity, as feminists cluck-cluck about "how bad things were in the past!" The late author Douglas Adams, among others, condemned this distortion of history.

RASA SAYS? LIES? EVEN TODAY WE HAVE A POLITICIZED JUDICIAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WHICH GIVES FEMALES WAY HARSHER SENTENCES FOR THE SAME CRIMES AS DO MALES. MALES ARE ROUTINELY HAVING SEX WITH BABIES IN DIAPERS- REAL SEX - & INJURING THEM IN THE PROCESS. THERE WERE TWO CASES IN OUR LOCAL HOSPITAL RECENTLY. A SEVEN MONTH OLD BOY WAS UNDER STRONG MEDICATION BECAUSE HIS FATHER LITERALLY BIT OFF HIS PENIS & SWALLOWED IT. THEN THERE WAS A MAN WHO HAD KILLED SEVERAL PEOPLE, BUT WAS LET GO. HE THEN PROCEEDED TO RAPE AN EIGHT YEAR OLD GIRL & AFTERWARD MURDER HER. HE BRAGGED TO MY NURSE FRIEND (WHO TOLD ME THESE CASES) HOW GOOD IT FELT TO HAVE SEX INSIDE HER BLOODY VAGINA! HE WAS PUT INTO PRISON WHERE HE GOT A SLIGHT BIT OF JUSTICE. THE INMATES THERE PUT A SNEAKER COMPLETELY UP IS ANUS, WHICH COULD NOT BE REMOVED ANY WAY BUT BY SURGERY. THAT IS WHERE MY NURSE MET HIM. HE WAS IN HANDCUFFS, BUT IN A REGULAR HOSPITAL. WHY ARE THESE MEN ALLOWED TO LIVE, TO RAPE & KILL AGAIN? BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING IN A PATRIARCHY, WHERE MEN EXCUSE OTHER MEN.

MEANWHILE, A WOMAN IN NEVADA WAS GIVEN LIFE IMPRISONMENT FOR LETTING A TWELVE-YEAR OLD BOY TOUCH HER BREAST! I DID NOT MAKE THIS UP!

FAIRNESS UNDER THE LAW? MEN BEING ABUSED? WOMEN GET SEVEN TIMES THE TIME FOR KILLING MEN AS MEN GET FOR KILLING A WOMAN. FURTHERMORE, IN MANY CASES OF WOMAN VS MAN, THE MAN INTIMIDATED, THREATENED HER, & DID VIOLENCE BEFORE SHE KILLED HIM. NOT SO IN MOST CASES OF MALES KILLING FEMALES. THEY DO IT AS “THRILL KILLERS,” FOR THE SHEER PLEASURE, OR OUT OF REVENGE FOR MONEY ISSUES!

Pierre says:--They want to create a skewed "family court" system. Most men don't think about the skewed legal system until they divorce and fall victims to it. The feminist intelligentsia latched onto certain findings that anthropologists found when they went to remote Amazon tribes. They found a primitive tribe where the women lived alone with the children, and the men lived in separate huts, and they wanted to project this as a kind of "natural norm" for all of society -- ignoring the fact that the far superior civilizations in their hundreds of millions have been organized according to male-female nuclear families. Yet this extreme feminist attitude is now the attitude of all the "family" courts that decide child-custody 95% in favor of the woman. The woman would have to show signs of both drug-abuse AND child-abuse before they would even begin to consider giving a man sole custody of his children. But if the woman has only ONE such trait, well that's okay, it's still the woman's children!

RASA SAYS: MALES LIVING IN SEPARATE HUTS SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. STATISTICS SAY THAT HALF OF ALL GIRLS & A QUARTER OF BOYS ARE MOLESTED BY THEIR DADS. ADD TO THIS, UNCLES, GRANDFATHERS & BOYFRIENDS OR STRANGERS, HOW MANY CHILDREN IS THAT, ABUSED BY MALES WHO GAIN ACCESS? LEAVE A CHILD ALONE WITH A HUMAN MALE & YOU ARE PLAYING RUSSIAN ROULETTE WITH THEIR SAFETY. FURTHERMORE, OTHER ABUSES ABOUND. EVEN A FEMALE IS USUALLY AT RISK WITH A MALE ALONE AS HE IS PRONE TO VIOLENCE & USUALLY BIGGER, STRONGER, & MORE VIOLENT THAN A FEMALE. THE SYSTEM OF PATRIARCHY’S NUCLEAR FAMILY IS A METHOD OF SEPARATING WOMEN FROM OTHER WOMEN & PUTTING THEM UNDER THE DOMINATION OF THE MALE, WHERE HE INTIMIDATES & ABUSES. SO SEPARATE HUTS, HAHA, SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

LOOK A THE ELEPHANTS. WHEN A MALE REACHES PUBERTY HE TRIES TO MOUNT THE BABY ELEPHANTS, & HAS TO BE DRIVEN OUT OF THE HERD, TO JOIN THE MALES WHO CURB HIS SEXUALITY & DISCIPLINE HIM. EVENTUALLY THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RETURN TO IMPREGNATE FEMALES WHEN THEY ARE IN ESTRUS, AT NO OTHER TIME. HUMAN MALES ARE LIKEWISE DANGEROUS TO HUMAN CHILDREN, & TO THE FEMALES. TO HAVE HUMAN MALES IN CONTROL OF A FAMILY IS ABSURD.

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The woman is allowed to hide sources of income and impose, through court systems, ruinous systems of alimony and child-support on the man. One man was being charged 100% of his salary, and could not apply for Welfare because he was earning a salary on paper. So he committed suicide by rigging his car-exhaust up to his car-window with rubber-tubing, asphyxiating himself with his last tank of gas. A strong, capable being was reduced to dead flesh because of the State.

RASA: THIS MAN SHOULD MAKE A GREAT FATHER, PROBABLY KILLING THE KIDS IN THE CAR WITH HIM. BRILLIANT AT SUICIDE & HOMICIDE, AREN’T THEY? WHY DID WOMEN RESIST KILLING THEMSELVES ALL THESE YEARS WHILE MALES STRIPPED THEM OF EVERY RIGHT & MADE THEM WORK LIE SLAVES IN THE HOUSE? HOW COULD THEY ENDURE IT? HOW CAN THEY NOW, EVEN WITH PARTIAL DISCRIMINATION IN PLACE, WORK SO MUCH HARDER THAN MALES, DISCIPLINE THEMSELVES SO THAT, THEY OJTSTRIP MALES IN ACADEMIA, THE WORK FORCE, DOCTOR DEGREES, & MANAGEMENT? STATISTICS PROVE ALL THIS OUT. 75% ACADEMIA IS NOW FEMALE. WORKFORCE, FEMALES GETTING STILL 77 CENTS TO THE DOLLAR BUT MORE WOMEN WORKING THEN MEN – MORE WOMEN GETTING DOCTOR DEGREES AS OF 2004, MORE WOMEN IN MANAGEMENT. THEY ARE RISING FROM THE BOTTOM UP & WILL SOON HIT THE GLASS CEILING & SMASH THROUGH IT.

--Remember the Tailhook scandal against the U.S. Navy? A woman made an accusation of being gang-raped by sailors. When a woman makes such an accusation, she benefits from the fact the legal system is set up with chivalrous impulses: that women are frail creatures in need of protection, and are automatically to be listened to. Issues of evidence, avoidance of hearsay, and all other legal standards go out the window. Eventually it was realized she lied about her testimony and the chivalrous impulses to entertain her complaint could no longer be sustained.

RASA: OH, WHAT A CROCK OF S---. FEMALES ARE BEING ROUTINELY RAPED BY MALES IN THE MILITARY – THE MAJORITY ARE BEING RAPED, & NO MALE IS BEING COURT MARTIALED. CHIVALROUS? AS LONG AS THEY HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS, ADVANTAGES, MONEY, FAVORS, THEY ACT CHIVALROUS. YOU WANT TO SEE HOW CHIVALROUS THEY ARE WHEN CHALLENGED – LOOK AT MY MORTON DOWNEY JR. SHOW.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

BrainFire 10 days ago

Willing to display ignorance publicly, ehh pierre? I think you should arm yourself with some factual data before treading into territories you are obviously ignorant about. It's ok though, I expect you to be ignorant about something that has been kept from you, by your patriarch leaders, and your obvious bitterness towards women.

RASA: BRAINFIRE YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. LOOK ON MY SITE, WOMAN THOU ART GOD, FOR DESCRIPTIONS OF TWO MATRIARCHAL COMMUNITIES POPULAR IN CHINA & THE OTHER INDONESIA. BUT EVEN IF THERE WERE NONE, MALES HAVE A WAY OF MAKING PEOPLE’S EXTINCT. THEY DID SO WITH THE TASMANIANS, TRIED TO EXTERMINATE THE ABORIGINES & THE AMERICAN INDIANS, THE JEWS, NOW THE BLACK AMERICANS & AFRICANS, SINCE 1971, WITH THE AIDS VIRUS. MALES ARE GENOCIDAL MANIACS, MOTHER GOD IS TAKING THEM OUT THROUGH EXTINCTION. THERE WILL BE NO MORE HUMAN MALES WITHIN 100,000 YEARS GIVE OR TAKE 25,000.

WOMEN WILL REPRODUCE WITHOUT MALES BECAUSE THEY HAVE REPRODUCTIVE CAPACITY – MALES DO NOT. THEY MIGHT GROW PENISES – LARGE I HOPE. EVENTUALLY, WHEN THE SPERM BANKS ARE EMPTY IF EVER, WE WILL HAVE TWO-FEMALE PARENTING, ALL OFFSPRING FEMALE.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONE’S SEXUAL ORIENTATION. I AM HETERO & LIKE SEX WITH MALES, NO MATTER HOW FLAWED THEY ARE. JUST AN INSTINCT. BUT WOMEN CAN CHANGE, DRASTICALLY SO. THEY ARE CREATORS,MALES ARE KILLERS. WOMEN CAN LEARN TO LOVE OTHER WOMEN, ESPECIALLY IF HALF OF THEM GROW PENISES, WHICH I DEEM SHOLD BE POSSIBLE AS BODYBUILDIERS TAKING HEAVY STEROIDS NOW HAVE PENISES LIKE COCKTAIL SAUSAGES.

You are using isolated cases in history of a corrupt system...Do you study statistics, do you know how many deaths took place under patriarchal order today, last month, last year? Are you even aware of anything of value on this subject, where you could actually speak intelligently? I see a lot of verbal diarrhea, direct female disrespect, and nothing of value coming from you.

RASA: FUTURISTS HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR MANY YEARS, THE FUTURE BELONGS TO WOMEN. I REMEMBER MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO, THEY KNEW THIS. THE STATS ARE THE MATH I BELIEVE BRAINFIRE SPEAKS OF. THEY ALL POINT TO THE END OF MALES, THE RISE OF FEMALES.

There are many Matriarch groups in our culture in the past, and today. Start with the Amazonians, research Alaska, and then study all of it for the next 30 years...then get back to me. You are on a hub that PROMOTES MATRIARCHY, has this dawned on you?

Are you part of the opposition? Spewing negativity from your patriarchal upbringing? If so, most people are fed up with patriarchs, so good luck with that!

The world is searching daily for the Matriarchs who WILL save the human race...This is pure mathematics, stats and keyword proof beyond a shadow of any doubt. As a matter of fact I just shared these stats with Bard, so he too can verify this.

Good luck with your outlook and attitude issues, pierre, and know this...I love you in spite of what you were never told, or prevented from knowing while you were growing up. Most people are shielded from the truth their entire life. Some of us make it our business to know these things. I am one who knows, I spent most of my life studying particular things relevant to life. Matriarchy actually comes out as the mathematical equation, (the answer) to the mathematical problem of society today. The solution for balance of life on this planet, at this time.

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Pierre Savoie 9 days ago

Don't try to invoke conspiracy, sweetie. It will only give you TWO things to prove: that your nonsense about matriarchy is correct, and that there has been some conspiracy to hide it. The direct, forthright male approach to the universe, where things can be controlled and manipulated, wins out over the uncertain, hesitant feminine religious mysteries, where everything happens suddenly and at random for unknown reasons, like a girl's first menstruation, changing everything.

RASA: WOMEN CREATED ALL THE ARTS, AGRICULTURE, RELIGION, WEAVING, - EVERYTHING. ABOUT 5,000 YEARS OR SO AGO MALES USED THEIR INSANITY, VIOLENCE & FORCE, WITH THE HELP OF SWORDS & OTHER WEAPONS, TO MURDER PEOPLE. THAT IS HOW THEY TOOK OVER. THEY HAVE CREATED, SINCE THEN, A HELL ON EARTH. WE ARE LIVING IN THE HELL THEY CREATED. BUT WOMEN ARE NOW MOVING UPWARD TO OUTST MEN – A MATTER OF TIME, SAY, 200 YEARS, MALES WILL BE ON BENDED KNEE TO US.

WOMEN ARE THE MOST PRACTICAL & PRAGMATIC BEINGS ON EARTH, MALE ARE ERRATIC, EMOTONAL, & MENTALLY UNSTABLE. LOOK AT THEIR WARS, GENOCIDES, CHILD & ANIMAL ABUSE, ALL THEIR CRIMES. THEY ARE LOOSE CANNONS WHEN NOT UNDER AUTHORITY OF THE FEMALES.

I have just made a hub to show the foibles of feminism, just in time for International Women's Day. I have yet to hear an apology for the "rule of thumb" urban myth...lol.

Bard of Ely 9 days ago

Pierre, what are you on about feminism again for? This hub is about matriarchy! You don't appear to like women very much be they matriarchs or feminists! Have you anything positive to add here?

"The direct, forthright male approach to the universe" has been as far as I can tell to dominate, beat, crush, plunder, destroy or kill whatever is in its way and to play God over matters it cannot understand such as it is currently doing with GE crops and experimentation! As a male I am very ashamed of the patriarchal abuse and deaths of billions of people, the destruction and extinction of wildlife and the massive damage done to the environment everywhere humans have gone! I do not have to look far to see evidence of this!

RASA: THANK YOU BARD, YOU ARE RIGHT.

You bring the "conspiracy" word into this and yes, I would say there is very much a conspiracy in evidence over matriarchal societies and cultures that have existed because this stuff is very much kept out of what is taught to the masses just as women such as Guru Rasa have so many attempts to exclude her from having a platform to speak up!

RASA: THEY HAVE ALWAYS SILENCED & THEN ERASED WOMEN’S PARTS, THEIR WORDS, OUT OF HISTORY. THEY HAVE DONE THIS TO ME & COUNTLESS OTHER WOMEN. WE HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING TO HAVE WHAT WE DID RECOGNIZED. IT TOOK ME 30 YEARS TO GET RECOGNITION FOR THE FEMALE BODY BUILDING AS MALES TRIED ERASING IT, BUT FINALLY, I WON!

You appear to equate success with numbers when referring to tribes and races of people even though the human population increase is the source of many problems today in the world under a patriarchal system.

RASA: UNDER MATRIARCHY THERE WOULD BE NO OVER POPULATION. WOMEN INSTINCTIVELY NURSE BABIES FOR 5-6 YEARS UNTIL THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS DEVELOP. AS LONG AS THEY NURSE PREGNANCY DOES NOT OCCUR. BUT MALES WANT BABIES TO SEND THEM TO KILL & BE KILLED – THEY FORCE PREGNANCY ON WOMEN, WOMEN ARE ENCOURAGED TO WEAN BABIES & GO BACK TO WORK. CHILDREN ARE DAMAGED BY PATRIARCHY. LOOK UP DR. BRYAN SYKES, DR. JOHN BOWLBY ON ATTACHMENT DISORDER & DR.JAMES W. PRESCOTT ON THE CAUSES OF PEACE & VIOLENCE.

You also use the word "manipulated" when describing the male approach and yes, indeed, I see how the patriarchal system with its controlled media, dominator male-god religions and biased education system has successfully manipulated the minds of billions of people brought up within its reach! The results of this we see in the world today with wars, starvation, crime, drug abuse, suicides, cruelty to animals, violent and abusive sex crimes, destruction and pollution of the environment, and untold suffering! All the products of the "male approach" and "manipulation" I would say!

RASA: ABSOLUTE FACTS STEVE IS STATING!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Rasa, for taking the time to go through all these comments and post your answers to them!


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

Harlan says: I like this hub, I am glad to be aware of these folks, though I would have liked to learn more of her doctrines. I support her right to say whatever, I don't see why she keeps getting kicked off her blogs, unless she is breaking the rules by violating some TOS by recruiting people into a religion or club. Being a god-damned fool is not a crime. I am sure the guru would regard me in the same way. That's ok with me.

RASA SAYS: ST. PAUL SAID TO TIMOTHY WHEN TIMOTHY ASKED FOR A GREATER ANOINTING,

“THE GREATER THE ANOINTING, THE GREATER THE PERSECUTION.”

THAT IS WHY I AM BEING DISABLED FROM VENUES, BECAUSE I AM PERSECUTED FOR MY SUCCESS, & MY EFFECTIVENESS.

ENVY IS ONE OF THE MOST TOXIC & REVENGEFUL EMOTIONS, & THE PEOPLE REPORTING ME, SADLY, ARE MORE WOMEN THAN MEN. MEN ARE NASTY LIKE THIS MAN PIERRE, BECAUSE MEN ARE SCARED OF WOMEN’S POWER. BUT WOMEN HAVE BEEN TARGETING ME FOR YEARS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE WHO I AM – THEY WANT THE MAGNETISM & SPIRITUAL POWER THAT I HAVE WHICH GIVES PEOPLE THE DESIRE TO WORSHIP ME AS A GODDESS. BUT THE WOMEN WHO ENVY ME, CANNOT OR DO NOT WANT TO PAY THE PRICE I PAID FOR IT. I HAVE BOOKS ON MY SPIRITUAL DEVELOPMENT, GURU RASA & HER DEVOTEES, YOGA & CHRISTIANITY, ARE THEY COMPATIBLE, SEEING GOD FACE TO FACE, THE BEATIFICE VISION, & THE STORY OF THE INTERIOR DIVINE STIGMATA. MOST PEOPLE SEE WEALTH, SUCCESS OR SPIRITUAL POWER & THEY WANT IT. THEY WANT TO HEAL THE WAY JESUS CHRIST HEALED. BUT DO THEY WANT TO PAY HIS PRICE? READ WHAT IT TOOK TO BECOME AIME SEMPLE MCPHERSON, THE GREATEST FAITH HEALER WHO EVER LIVED, & HOW SHE WORKED, HER ZEAL, & HOW SHE DIED YOUNG. BUT THEY DON’T WANT TO PAY THE PRICE!

SOME OF YOUR REMARKS ARE OUT OF LINE. WHEN JESUS WAS ON EARTH, NO ONE ASKED HIM, IF HE HAD MIRACLE POWER, TO CURE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN AFRICA. JESUS HAD A SPECIAL MISSION, & HE FULFILLED IT. ALL SPIRITUAL LEADERS WORK WITHIN THEIR OWN MISSION, TO DO WHAT GOD SENT THEM TO DO, THEY ARE NOT ALL THINGS TO ALL PEOPLE. THEY WORK ACCORDING TO GOD’S PLAN, FOR THEM & THEIR MISSION. THEY HEAR THE STILL SMALL VOICE & THEY OBEY, & THINGS GET DONE.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

I am leary of any system that excludes members or attributes that are part of it. I don't argue the point that most of the ills in the world can be attributed to patriarchal constructs, but I also feel that a just, whole society must include the values of the whole in some fashion, not just the parts that are considered valuable by the dominant. (I think that's what we have that now with the current patriarchal model, the dominant faction having backed its dominance up with violence). Does matriarchal mean the same kind of exclusion from the other direction?

RASA: MEN ARE NOT EXCLUDED IN A MATRIARCHAL SOCIETY, THEY WORK UNDER AUTHORITY OF THE FEMALE, BUT THEY HAVE IMPORTANT ROLES TO PLAY NEVERTHELESS. BUT THEY DO NOT LEAD WOMEN.

I'm not at all opposed to the notion of women in control of society. My mother was in control of our family, but even she felt that she would accept my Dad's decision on things solely because he was the 'man of the house' and that was how she was taught. I always thought that was silly.

I guess I need to research matriarchy a bit more so I can determine exactly how you define it. Far be it from me to say I don't like something without knowing what it is. Thanks for making me think.

RASA: IN MATRIARCHY WOMEN WORK TOGETHER TO DETERMINE WHAT IS BEST FOR ALL. THEY ARE BENEVOLENT COMPARED TO MEN, THEY ARE JUST, FAIR, THEY CARE FOR THE WEAK. THEY DO NOT USUALLY EXPLOIT, CAUSE ATROCITIES OR GENOCIDES. DURING THE 28,000 KNOWN YEARS OF MATRIARCHY (PROBABLY HAD IT THE ENTIRE TIME OF HUMAN EXISTENCE EXCEPT VERY RECENTLY) THERE WERE NO WARS, NO ARMED WARFARE. WITH WOMEN & MOTHER GOD RULING THE WORLD, THERE WAS JUSTICE & HAPPINESS. LOOK WHAT THE WORLD HAS BECOME. CHAOS, GREED, CRIME, EVERY IMAGINABLE & UNIMAGINABLE ATROCITY AGAINST ALL LIFE. PATRIARCHY IS THE CULTURE OF DEATH, NECROPHILIA. MATRIARCHY IS THE CULTURE OF LIFE, BIOPHILIA, AS EXPLAINED BY MARY DALY.


AntonOfTheNorth 5 years ago

I have more to read on the subject, and to discuss and absorb, so this comes with a liberal grain of salt;

But most of what I'm seeing is attack rhetoric on both sides of this discussion. Both sides saying "you are wrong", both sides saying "you are evil". Both sides essentially declaring war (I believe I saw that on one of Rasa's Blogs)

This isn't a discussion about solutions.

One side wants me to be a stereotypical violent, dominant, repressive male. The language used by that side does not represent my values, my choices, nor my identity. (clearly it represents many, but it does not represent me)

The other has already decided that I represent an evil influence on humanity and its only a matter of time before my kind vanish from the earth and then 'we'will be at peace. (except it sounds just like the 'final solution' humanity will only be at peace when I am not a part of it.)

Hate is the sibling of Fear. Neither is a solution.

It seems in order to participate in this debate, I either have to emulate the 'inherant' evil of men or agree that I no longer have any relevance. The debate in this context is already polarized beyond compromise, or sharing or caring what the other side thinks. I am just not interested in the extremes discussed here.

Rasa's vision of the future may be correct. I'll have passed on before it can be proved. It doesn't offer a solution to now. And since I'm interested in the now, I will retire from the discussion.

In any event, I wish you peace.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Anton, I am a man who does not present either of those options you have suggested! Thank you for posting!


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

Anton is just a sore loser. If the men were beating the women soundly he would be satisfied. I have stated the facts. Everything I say is from studies, statistics & sound logic. If I am perturbed that males do so much damage, I should be. It's not about hate, is it? Hating child molestation, hating rape, hating violence, genocide, atrocities, abuse of animals, destruction of the environment, hating all those things males have created & continue to promulgate. There is a list of grievances against what males have done as long as toilet paper & just as dirty. Look at your track record - this is what males have done in spite of the exceptions. There is noting you can say Anton, to defend the male gender, so bow out, understandably. There is no argument to a counter a record of male failures & flaws. What the vociferous males here have done is answered emotionally. That is another myth that must be dispelled - male logic vs. female emotionalism. I have seen my share of emotional insults, innuendos & put downs from men on the internet venues. Wow, do they recoil in rage, fear & brutality when faced with the facts! They can't stand being on the carpet, it hurts their inflated image of who they are - they cannot humble themselves. So you are an exception? If you are, you would also hate the things males do, & would admit they do them, as do Steve & William Bond. Steve admits males are the way they are - William wants women to rule the world because males have failed. When a man hates evil, this is how he talks - not like you - trying to squirm out of a debate because you can't take the heat. You can't win so you say the debate is flawed - sour grapes. The debate is a good one which women are winning, especially after Rasa, the leader of the Army of Mother God, stepped in. So haha to you Anton. Go lick your wounds. The men here have been defeated - this happens wherever I go Steve, it is the Anointing of Mother God. Praise Mother God, good bye false gods of men.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

AntonOfTheNorth 12 hours ago

I have more to read on the subject, and to discuss and absorb, so this comes with a liberal grain of salt;

But most of what I'm seeing is attack rhetoric on both sides of this discussion. Both sides saying "you are wrong", both sides saying "you are evil". Both sides essenially declaring war (I believe I saw that on one of Rasa's Blogs)

This isn't a discussion about solutions.

RASA: We have presented the one & only ultimate solution: Matriarchy, rule of the women with Mother God as our God. That brings peace. No one is excluding men, they work under authority of females!


AntonOfTheNorth 5 years ago

You've simply made my point.

Based solely on reading what I have written, you have decided that I would be satisfied if the 'men were beating the women'.

That is simply insulting.

I've never used violence or the threat of violence to get what I want from anyone. I'm fairly certain nothing I've written here even implies that I would accept that as a good thing.

"When a man hates evil, this is how he talks" again, you've already decided what truth is, how it should be presented and worse, what my reality is, based on a few paragraphs. I would not willingly put myself under the rule of anyone of any gender who jumps to those kind of conclusions.

If you are presenting the 'one & only ultimate solution: Matriarchy, rule of women with Mother God as our God' then the only view you appear to support is one that agrees with that. This means that in order for you to even attempt to listen to what I have to say, I have to agree with your interpretation of God. Nothing I say will influence your thoughts until I can demonstrate to you that I think as you do. As I don't, and as this is a discussion hub, what other value does my participation have for either of us?

I do grant you, that clearly I was compelled to continue participating so obviously my ego is involved, to feel compelled to share thoughts that arguably have no value to you. I don't consider myself a 'sore loser' though. Not sore and I didn't lose anything. I still consider the discussion a gain.

cheers

cheers


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God 5 years ago

Anton I never accused you of violence - I decided what Truth is (?) These are my opinions OF TRUTH just as yours are. Each person PRESENTS THEIR CASE OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE TRUE. You believe, I believe, we have a discussion. Frankly, I suspect you don't know enough about the subject. William Bond & I have been studying this FOR YEARS. People jump on board thinking they can take us down swiftly - uh uh. We've been through all the bantering & heard it all. Not even an "expert" can take us down, but an expert can ask intelligent questions by which, like a lawyer, he could trip me up or checkmate me - if that were possible. But it isn't possible so of course you don't want to look foolish so you bow out - which is understandable. I suspect you are a nice person, I have no ill will toward what you say.


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

At the risk of coming under the attack of Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God I have to say that I have read enough. If what I have read here is any indication of the of the kind of rulership of the "Mother God" has in store for us in the future then I truly hope it never comes to pass. Attack and ridicule make up most of what I have read from Rasa. Facts are being used as sword and shield and any male (possibly any female as well) who does not come right out and agree 100% with Rasa comes under her attack and ridicule. That is not what I want for the future of this world.

Anton has made these statements "I don't argue the point that most of the ills in the world can be attributed to patriarchal constructs," ..... "I'm not at all opposed to the notion of women in control of society." ..... "I guess I need to research matriarchy a bit more..." ..... "I have more to read on the subject..." From what I read he created his posts in a thoughtful way. He has written nothing that should have earned him the attack and ridicule he has been given. Anton has been treated as if he were Pierre Savoie or Morton Downey Jr. I have to wonder why Rasa didn't take the time she used to trash Anton to educate him instead on the positive aspects of a Matriarchal society?

I had intended on reading more about what Rasa has to say but, I've been so busy I have not had time to. Yet now, after reading all of Rasa's comments, I don't think I will. Eighty percent of what I have read from Rasa has been nothing but repeating the evils that some men have wrought upon this world and all life upon it. I am already fully aware of these facts and have no desire to read more. The other twenty percent I have read from Rasa have been demeaning and ridiculing comments. Where is the Nurturing? Where is the Compassion? Where is the Wisdom? Where are the words that would make people want to learn more?

There is a saying "That what we Fear and Hate the most, we become." Just from what Rasa has written on this hub I would say that statements fits perfectly. And before Rasa tries to make it sound as if I want to be her. I Do Not! Nor do I envy Rasa! Right now I pity Rasa. She has learned well the tactics of attack and ridicule that are so often used by men to crush that which gets in their way. She has forgotten how to speak not from a heart filled with hate and hurt but one that is centered within the highest qualities of Creator/Mother God.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God 5 years ago

Teresa, are you a man, woman or she-male, it helps to know, before I answer, who I am talking to.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God 5 years ago

Teresa I have not attacked anyone nor ridiculed anyone - you are imagining things. I think you are used to men being in charge & women on bended knee, & when a female just says what is in a straightforward manner, it sounds so strange, you think it’s attack & ridicule. Sometimes I use irony or sarcasm, but that’s not a sin. The males I’ve been talking to are against Matriarchy – I am a leader in the army of Mother God, sent to smash men who oppose her, so I am smashing them. If nice guys come up they are treated gently but the enemies of Mother God get what they deserve. Compassion? We are working to save the planet & all that is on it, men are destroying it. Why do you want me to be soft with those who oppose Mother God, life, happiness & all that is good? I cannot be soft on these criminals, & if you want to be, then I can see why Mother God has passed you by for her army of righteousness. You are molly coddling demons.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God 5 years ago

Teresa I think I got it. You are Anton in drag.


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Rasa, My gender is unimportant. If you wish to reply: reply to my words, the message within my words, or, if you can discern, the intent of the message within the words.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God 5 years ago

Teresa I did reply in the longish post. The rst is just having fun with you, not to be taken seriously. I love everyone, can't you see that I am a marginalized person & therefore do not judge anyone? Of course, my fight is male domination & that I do not have fun with - I go for the jugular. Anyone who is on the side of male domination & males destroying families, children, animals, the planet - are on my "hit list" ! Mother God wants to save lives, the lives of animals, people, even men - She loves them all - I love them all. In order to save souls & bodies, I have to fight male domination. I hope you can understand that.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God 5 years ago

Teresa says: While I am out of my head I want to say........

Rasa says: So many men are after me for my mind I am usually out of it


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Rasa, My apologies. I am not trying to ignore you or anything like that. It's just right now I am very busy and do not have the time to respond properly. Hopefully tomorrow I will be able to carefully read and respond to what you have written.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Male animals have existed for over 800 MILLION years. Why does an empty-head like Rasa claim human males will disappear within 25,000 years?


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Because Pierre, a well respected Oxford professor of genetics has written a book on the subject and it is his opinion that this will happen. This was pointed out in the text of my hub and I went as far as putting eBay ads for Prof Sykes' work alongside it!


Rasa Von Werder aka Kellie Everts aka Mother God 5 years ago

Pierre,

Dr. Bryan Sykes (Oxford University), the world's top geneticist, has calculated human males will not exist in 100,000 years give or take 25,000 years. He said males are "a genetic modification experiment that did not work" & nature is removing them. Women will reproduce without males, there will be two-woman parenting, the offspring female. It will be a female-only world.

Human males are deteriorating fast with the y chromosome crumbling. Right now 8% of them are infertile. Their health is poor as compared to female, they fall apart quickly as the y chromosome cannot repair itself. Males are also less intelligent than females & far more violent, impulsive & reckless. If you look at the world around you & all its ills you see the result of male thinking & behavior, but this is changing fast. As males try to do as much damage as possible wile on their way out, women are rising up, ready to take over the world, remove society from the hands of men & repair the damage. I see Matriarchy full developing within 200 years; we being in a transition.

The plots the human male has for the destruction of humanity are demonically ingenious. Read David Icke & Alex Jones, as well as the other conspiracy experts, to see what they are planning. It’s not even secret any more – many top-notch economists & intelligent observers see a doomsday being planned by males- as if in their last dying breath, they want to do as much harm as possible.

We have to think in terms of humans are a species of animal. For a long time now, males have set up systems of hunting, murder, assassination, slaughter & torture of animals (including human animals) & it’s getting more open. With biowarfare, they exterminating the human race, trying to disable, sicken & kill as many as possible, so a hierarchical few at the top can herd what’s left into cities, microchip them, & use them as economic slaves.

The only hope has always been women & Mother God, & She has stepped into action. Her Power became manifest in the 1860’s at the start of the feminist movement, & has continued into what we now term Female Empowerment / Matriarchy. (My site Woman Thou Art God is number one on Google for those terms.) Women are now beating men in academia including Doctor degrees, management, & the labor force. They are moving up from the bottom – as William Bond says,

“Women are a cork, which, when they stop holding it down, pops up.”

Women are rising, males are sliding back. Without the props of discrimination & violence males cannot control the Female Superior. Compare this to the slaughter of great beasts like tigers, elephants, wolves & bears. As long as males have weapons to counteract the natural superiority of these animals, they can destroy them. But without traps & guns, they run in fear from these animals, as death could strike in minutes. The weapons males have used against females have been similar –every machination known to Hell has held women down. These devises were preached from pulpits, psychiatric chairs, academia– media – print, the bodies of government. It took a great concerted effort to hold women down – men being in agreement UNIVERSALLY, corporately, the big & small men – not only the alphas, but the betas had their share in it. This was beaten into our brains from the days we were born – that males were somehow superior & had to run everything, women had to bow down to men. (And the betas are still trying to beat women down but with little success.)

Now their evil system, Patriarchy, is deteriorating, & the world of Mother God, Matriarchy, is moving in. This is what will heal the planet – nothing else. No system of males will ever change our world – as William Bond points out so wisely. Every political & religious construct, be it socialism, capitalism, communism, monarchy, when under the management of men, becomes corrupt & violent.

Again, William Bond has been pointing out for years, women are nurturers, while men have an instinct for violence. So who should rule the family & the world? The care giver or the one who commits 99% of violence & crimes?


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Rasa, for a very detailed explanation of what has happened and the solution!


Hugh Hill 5 years ago

I think a better word that might be a bit more simple to swallow would be maternal-ism, the science of giving and nurturing, I disagree with that woman cannot be violent or war like because they can.

Statistically speaking they are much less prone to violence though.

There are also many men who are completely non-violent and pacifistic by nature.

I think we are violent because we do not value life or consider other species as equal partners on this earth we share.

We are supposed to be evolved & intelligent and yet we destroy everything we touch and all the animals for the sake of nothing less than selfishness.

Who fuels the fur industry? How many animals suffered so that makeup can make it to the purses?

We are all responsible and until we stop eating meat, poisoning our bodies with chemicals and brainwashing our minds we will continue to be the planets screw-ups and eventually wipe out everything.

Sometimes I wish that humans would just disappear, we don't deserve this beautiful planet, but then maybe, if we could change....,


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

That's right, she's starting to go to the Other Side -- of credibility -- if she claims Joan of Arc touched her on the forehead. She also made a statement VERY SIMILAR to, "I'm not against Negroes, but they will be subservient." only she talks about males instead of Negroes. It gets very, very dangerous when she imagines a God that shares her gender, and her race, possibly, to the exclusion of any other aspect.

She has to realize that there IS no religion, spirituality is a sham, no God, spirits, or souls, and we have increased in comfort and progress from 350 years of science, not from the thousands of years of religion that came before. But it's no big deal. It takes energy, self-delusion, and willful ignorance to stay as a radical, but the Road to Normal is wide and accomodating. People just have to snap out of it and say they've been wasting their precious hours on the Single-Life Path, they can apologize to any people they've hurt, and there's still time to learn a productive trade, like learning how to bake cookies in a factory or something, anything will do...


Rasa Von Werder aka Mother God aka Kellie Everts 5 years ago

Teresa no problem - I am also going to be away from the pc for a couple days having fun with my hotties. I can see why Pierre is so grumpy - He's ugly so no one wants to have sex with him. Tsk tsk, sorry, Pierre, learn to do something useful like cleaning bathrooms for women & maybe one of them will allow you to kiss her - on the ass.


Rasa Von Werder 5 years ago

Hugh, I like what you say - I can see you have feelings & are downhearted about the world situation. It's a good start. Help us work for Matriarchy.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Rasa's explanation is bullshit! She doesn't cite where the scientist actually published his ideas in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, or how his claim can square the face of the fact that we have had gendered species for 800 MILLION years or more.

Oh, they didn't LET him publish his findings in a real scientific journal? Why is that? Could it be because he's daffy? You should read CHECKED publications in science, not self-published rants.

You are quoting science "at a distance" and vaguely. I have a Master's Degree in Chemistry and I don't appreciate it when philosophers, hippies, longhairs and other amateurs try to voice-appropriate science they've "heard about" to justify their daffy views. This is not some Southern California alfalfa-bar here, this is the arena of REAL scientific publication, so WHERE DID this daffy professor manage to publish his claims in a peer-reviewed scientific journal? And how do his facts measure up with the observed paleontological reality of sex? Why didn't males all disappear 500 million years ago, or 600 million years ago? Was there not time for the "crumbling DNA" to self-destruct? Or is it just now, conveniently close to the lifetime of Rasa Von Herr Führerin, that this is scientifically predicted to happen?


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Pierre, Prof Bryan Sykes is a many times published academic expert on human genetics as you can see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Sykes


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

But IN WHAT PEER-REVIEWED SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL did he publish this so-called claim about the "crumbling" of male genetics??? It's not enough to use the fallacy of Appeal to Authority. You have to show how he actually pulled off a peer-review process, where others determine if his science is valid enough to be published in the legitimate scientific literature. I am trying to get actual chapter and verse. I am ALSO trying to get an answer as to how male DNA can "crumble" if we've had gendered animals for 800 million years or more, everything beyond paramecia. Why didn't it "crumble" before human history?


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Sykes also got criticized for writing THE SEVEN DAUGHTERS OF EVE, trying to take general findings about DNA in migrating human populations and mythologizing them, even giving them personalities. It is NOT the role of a serious scientist to attempt to turn research into "Clan of the Cave-Bear" type stories.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Pierre, there are female only animals in the natural world I can think of and those that can reproduce without males eg the Indian Stick Insect, the Whiptail Lizard, Komodo Dragon and the Marmor Krebs crayfish. So that shows that males are not necessary.

Male human sperm count is going downhill due mainly to environmental pollution with toxins and hormones and this is having disastrous effects too with other species ranging from alligators to many types of fish.

I don't know of the peer-reviewed evidence backing up Sykes' claims so cannot answer that and am not going to spend my time trying to find any. I am presenting what I know of his theories here as a side issue to this hub which is primarily about Rasa being deleted at Facebook. I am pointing out though that he an Oxford professor and specialises in genetics as the subject he has studied.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

But these species are not typical of the hundreds of thousands of animal species! You expect all of us to wear grass skirts just because Amazon tribesmen do?

Oxford professors should STILL not be trusted if they are self-publishing their thoughts, rather than agreeing to subject their ideas to peer-reviewed scientific scrutiny.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

No, they are not typical but they do exist and that shows that it is possible.

As for Prof Sykes' theory I do not know if he is right or not but Rasa believes he is and that is the point being made here. I do not claim to know what the future holds but I do see matriarchy as a workable solution to a world that is in a terrible mess.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

It's just brainwashing. The proof is in the pudding, so these "matriarchies" will have to set up as independent countries, competing with all countries, and we'll see how they do. Probably they'll survive on massive World Bank loans until some Muslim country decides to invade them, and then they'll whine and plead for some patriarchal phallocratic United Nations army to save them.


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

You can always spot ignorance, when a person argues about a subject they know little about. Pierre, you have stunted your own growth in life, and spirit. You don't even realize how much information you are letting out about your own very closed, brainwashed mind. I commented on your bitterness towards women, you skirted over that right. I watched as you continue to trash women, and anyone promoting anything other than what is in YOUR tiny closed mind.

I'd be very interested in knowing what your usual PH is. I also mentioned an evaluation of your nutrient levels, to allow us the freedom to decide if you are even worth talking to. So far I feel you are not. What you have been willing to write, taking a patriarchal stance, ready for battle, with people who are clearly much more educated on the subject matter than you...obviously.

I suspect you may be frustrated, and with an attitude like that...it would be par for your course. What I do hope, is that you don't abuse any women, or children. Having a TOXIC attitude can put the people, namely the women and children near you in great danger. Even just your outlook, and fighting attitude lends great strength to Matriarchy. You are proving many aspects of why a Matriarchy is the solution to our planet now, sooner than later.

A woman gave birth to you, allowing you to flourish on this planet, as whatever you have chosen to become. Nowhere in grand scheme of things were you ever told to disrespect women, abuse, and attack, as you meet women in your travels. I'd say that's not going to work favorably for you at this time.

Do you happen to know the world dating stats? I do, have you ever looked into any of this? Your mind is closed, and yet you stand before us arguing against women in a hub that promotes Matriarchy! I'm seeing some improper brain cell firing there. You are a product of your environment, and you know not what you say.

Until you can provide facts for your position, I would tread lightly, demonstrating respect, and eagerness to LEARN, and expand ones mind. You would not have been afforded the opportunity to be here today had your Mother not carried inside her womb for 9 months.

Shall we conclude your mania as inner confusion, and lack of knowledge, or would you like to give yourself the opportunity to grow, and advance...the free will has been given to you for this reason. To make intelligent decisions, and see beyond a realm of hate. Which is where you seem to be stuck.

You lack love, I can see this, and I can also sense a lot of frustration within. Since you were willing to launch the attack against women here, and all that this hub, my hubs/sites, and Rasa's sites promote, it would help you greatly to understand Matriarchy a little better. Verses shooting ones mouth off without any fuel.

Your public display of hostility towards women is very clear. Were you aware that this is generally a major turn off to women? Could this be the reason you are so frustrated with the idea of Women ruling the world?

Fortunately it is inevitable, thankfully WE are aware, and making the necessary moves to get there! Hence the reason for this hub, and the many others. We are already a Matriarchal Society, in the near future it WILL be adapted to as the normal way of life...The way it was meant to be in the first place. Good Luck! Find Love in your life.


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GlueArticlePro 5 years ago from San Francisco

She definitely controversial and I totally disagree with the way she goes about expressing herself. But dammit shes in America. Just like Alexandra Wallace can say whatever ethnic slurs she wants!


Pierre Savoie 5 years ago

pH? You don't even know how pH is spelled (SMALL p, idiot!) and you lecture ME on ignorance? Oh, my mind is quite open, but it has two mother big bouncers in front of it called Reason and Logic, and so your silly New Age ideas can't enter the bar because they're under-aged!


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

I have lived through a time when the Communists claimed they were the way everything "should be" and that the world would "inevitably" become Communist as it "sweeps the world". Well, look what happened to THEM.

No, you certainly must doubt someone if they want you to worship her as a goddess (when spirituality itself is in sharp question), and you certainly must ban anyone who suggests in a public forum to strip males of their equal rights to be put in positions of authority. Now she is reduced to publishing, not directly, but through the intercession of her male followers, what we call in the Men's Movement the White Knights or the Manginas...


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Pierre wrote >Oxford professors should STILL not be trusted if they are self-publishing their thoughts, rather than agreeing to subject their ideas to peer-reviewed scientific scrutiny.<

I am shocked to see that you are still ranting about this peer-reviewed scientific scrutiny. Being a man of science that you are, I would have thought that you were taught in college, or at the very least learned of it through where you work, that all to often scientific work that goes against the accepted scientific theories are never published in a scientific journal. It doesn't matter how methodical the processes, how accurate the findings are, or how much evidence there is if the results point to something that contradicts the widely "acceptable" scientific theories the work is squashed and the scientist doing the work suffers sometimes severe damage to his professional career.

I am not alone in this opinion. Richard Horton, editor of the British medical journal The Lancet (which is one of the most respected general medical journals around), has said that "The mistake, of course, is to have thought that peer review was any more than a crude means of discovering the acceptability — not the validity — of a new finding. Editors and scientists alike insist on the pivotal importance of peer review. We portray peer review to the public as a quasi-sacred process that helps to make science our most objective truth teller. But we know that the system of peer review is biased, unjust, unaccountable, incomplete, easily fixed, often insulting, usually ignorant, occasionally foolish, and frequently wrong."

A good example of just how closed minded Scientific Academia truly is is the work done by Michael Cremo in his book "Forbidden Archeology". In this book Cremo has a ton of archeological evidence that has been ignored by the scientific establishment and relinquished to the basements of museums and universities around the world just because they couldn't fit them into the widely accepted theories of mankind's existence.

"If it doesn't fit, get rid of it" seems to be a general rule of thumb the scientific establishment uses to maintain the status quo. You have written that you are open minded but, it seems that you are no more open minded than the scientific establishment you love so well. If you truly were open minded you would not need others in the scientific community to tell you what to believe. You seem intelligent enough to make up your own mind so why do you need others to decide for you what is valid and what is not.

Pierre wrote >I am ALSO trying to get an answer as to how male DNA can "crumble"... <

From a book review at the LBA Literary Agency I will quote a short answer to your question.

"Genetically speaking, the only difference between men and women is that where women have two X chromosomes, men have one X and one Y. This one chromosome difference, out of a total of forty-six, holds the key to understanding the huge difference between the sexes.

But a closer look at the all-important Y chromosome reveals some shocking news for men. It is getting smaller. As the generations pass the Y chromosome is being cannibilized by the female genome and worn away by its own inability to recombine. Women are winning the evolutionary battle of the sexes. "

If you are truly open minded as you state you are why don't you go to a library, check out the book and read it for yourself.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Book reviews and self-published things STILL don't satisfy science. And if you try to run down peer-reviewed scientific literature, it is like running down the ballot-box and saying that it is better to appoint a king. If a scientific paper can't bear checking, then it does NOT have methodical processes or accurate findings. It also fails if it refuses to acknowledge the vast body of information contradicting the paper's present position.

There is no "end-run" around the safeguards of the scientific arena. We don't need to encourage shoddy New Age beliefs by allowing them to run rampant without rules. If they can't survive in the arena of science, it's because their ideas are puerile.


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Pierre wrote > And if you try to run down peer-reviewed scientific literature, it is like running down the ballot-box and saying that it is better to appoint a king.<

No it doesn't. It just means that any system, in this case peer-review, that allows personal biases and agendas to intrude what should be impartial and unbiased reviews of another persons work is not and cannot be infallable and therefore must be considered flawed. And if scrutinized under the same microscopic lens as peer-reviewed literature often is; the only possible conclusion would be that the results of peer-reviews are contaminated by the personal biases and adgendas of the people reviewing the literature and must be thrown out.

You can't even objectively look at the material because of your own personal biases and agendas.

Pierre wrote >there IS no religion...... no God.....<

One of the definitions of religion is this "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects". YOUR God is science. No matter how limited, erroneous or closed minded it is you have chosen to view all the world through its lens. You share the same faith to science as others do to their chosen faith. You are just as brainwashed and close minded as any religious zealot is. Your religion is accepted scientific dogma!


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

The peer-reviewed system is like democracy, often derided, but people admitting that the only worse system is every other system!

I think you smell rather strongly of New Age beliefs, since you decry exactly the dams and safeguards that keep your nonsense out of scientific discourse. There's a REASON science-journal articles are checked by other competent scientists before any publication.

Hey, science is not a God to me. I am perfectly willing to CHANGE MY MIND and bow down to a God, to a spirit, or even Mammy Guru Hare Rama, IF you prove there is in fact one, by scientific means! I have the open mind here, but I ask you, what if YOU'RE wrong? It will be hard for a proud man, a proud woman setting herself up as divine, to admit she's wasted a good chunk of her life chasing after will o' the wisps, but this is in fact what is happening.

Answering charges that logical thinking is "as bad a religion" as New Age nonsense:

http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismmyths/p/DenialG...

So enough stupid nonsense! You claim spirit and God are real? Prove it, prove it, prove it! Right now! No more excuses!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Pierre, God is real and Rasa has a right to her opinion. It is free speech just like you have here.I suspect a lot of your hostility towards her is based on her reversal of the old rules. She has hotties and you don't, that's something you will need to get used to as Women become the lead gender.


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Peirre wrote >So enough stupid nonsense! You claim spirit and God are real? Prove it, prove it, prove it! Right now! No more excuses!<

Where on this hub have I said that spirit and God are real?


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

This is a hub on matriarchy and we really need to get back on topic here. I suppose that one reason that many men are so opposed to the idea of the return of matriarchy is that some men think of all the atrocities men have committed against women and they think that when women are in charge that they will be treated in the same way. A sort of revenge, if you will. While I cannot say that this will happen or not, I have to admit it is a possibility. It may be a very slim possibility but, it is possible.

Many men in the men's movement are boo-hooing because they say they are not being treated fairly and school age boys are getting screwed up in school because of the changes created by the women's movement. As one proud to be male chauvinist man told me once, while berating the feminist movement, "Life's not fair! Get over it!"

If men and boys are truly being treated with the same kind and the same level of unjust treatment women and girls have endured for millennia; I see it as a case of "You reap what you sow" and "What goes around, comes around".

Eventually everything will level out and both sexes will receive the same level of just or unjust treatment. But before that happens men will have to learn just how women felt while they were being treated as second class citizens and chattel.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

No Rambo Revenge-Fantasies for you, Teresa. Men will band together and block women, stop listening to tricks like trying to appeal to their chivalrous impulses. Maybe we'll even start the crematoria camps, just for women.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Pierre, you really don't like women very much do you? Well, you are wrong that all "men will band together" because there are very many men who support women! I am one of these! It is because men band together with their corrupt political parties and their war-making that the world is in the mess it is!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Pierre, If vyou want to stop the rising tide of Women, I suggest that you practice by going to the beach and see if you can keep the tide from coming in. If that works, then you are ready to take on Women.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Just wanted to add a few more comments here. I personally have reached out to Women and accepted their victory in the gender war, and by doing so, have gotten amazing support from Women. I feel that those of us that take this route will benefit from a Matriarchy or Female centric society. Once Women see that we are no longer a threat,they tend to be willing to help us move in a positive direction, and learn exactly what they will expect from us.Men had plenty of time to share power, and chose to ignore the rise of Women.


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

pierre says>pH? You don't even know how pH is spelled (SMALL p, idiot!) and you lecture ME on ignorance? Oh, my mind is quite open, but it has two mother big bouncers in front of it called Reason and Logic, and so your silly New Age ideas can't enter the bar because they're under-aged!

pierre says>No Rambo Revenge-Fantasies for you, Teresa. Men will band together and block women, stop listening to tricks like trying to appeal to their chivalrous impulses. Maybe we'll even start the crematoria camps, just for women.

Are you Hitler? Are you under the care of a psychologist? Do you realize that what you have written here publicly is a terroristic, tyrannical threat against WOMEN? It's very obvious that you have wielded a double edged sword now pierre. Since people typically absorb about a third of what you say, I'm going to guess you missed the point here, completely.

First, I am not even sure what the heck you are doing here. Second, I think the fact that you have taken your frustration in life public, you are deserving of whatever it brings. I see that you are incredibly rude, and live your life as if it were a mission AGAINST WOMEN! Good luck with that! I'm going to reach and say you are also sexually frustrated, because you have aired so much hostility towards women here on someone elses hub about MATRIARCHY.

What is uttered from your mouth, is utterly disgusting, I assure you no men will block this from happening, it has been happening for a very long time already. Women don't beat their chests, and fan their plumage to conquer anyone. In defense of attack, you will lose in your illogical quest of hammering women down. You seem COMPLETELY out of touch for being a supposedly educated person. I'm going to call that SELECTIVE EDUCATION. Which has indeed played a part in your tiny closed mind, and lack of development. You have already gone public with this fact.

The "PH" was capped to catch YOUR attention! LOL...Although that went right over your head. Look at what you wrote! How ignorant to assume it was a mistake. You are a very small, presumptuous boy, who has not been afforded the opportunity to have LOVE in his life. When you lash out at people, and attack, insult, or disrespect...you NEVER get anything good in the end. You are now proof of this.

Be very careful what you put in writing. You have told us exactly who you are, and all about what you think. Where is YOUR army? I have tons of movie connections, and so does Rasa, let's make a movie about it, we'll make it an epic! I've actually been waiting for your kind to arrive. What took you so long, I've been here for 3 years already.

You seem to think that standing before the Women of our current world, and speak like this, and you think it is OK? I suggest you stand naked in front of the mirror, and take good look at yourself to see who you really are.

Better make sure what you think is actually correct. I have proof to the contrary...where is YOUR research! You have nothing of value to offer here. You also have not addressed one question posed to you so far. I suggested a PH TEST STRIP, A BLOOD TEST to confirm I was right about your lack of balance chemically. Was there any particular reason you have ignored that, (I thought you were a chemist), and all other questions posed to you? Are you afraid I may be right? I was dead serious...where are the results pierre? I doubt you would ever share that information with us, right?

The big bad chemist you supposedly are, with the most closed minded, atrocious attitude firmly rooted against WOMEN. I think you have taken blatant ignorance to a new level! You are so smug, and continue to slash and bash WOMEN publicly, that you don't even realize what you are giving up.

Myself, and Rasa both work with WORLD FAMOUS SCIENTISTS...Uh Oh pierre...I bet WE will be crossing your path again in the very near future. Be very careful what you do, and say from this point on. You may very well jeopardize your own future. To be respectful, is to be wise. You never know who you are going to meet in the future. I almost feel sorry for you, but then again I don't...You have ignorantly chosen your path of patriarch destruction, and you seem to like it. It's not the facts, right? It's what you think...very ignorant, very close minded.

I'm certain your energy, and attitude repels women, and I'm also certain you have some serious psychological issues from the brainwashing, and preconditioning of your upbringing. I actually don't fault you for that. What I do fault you for is the current offenses you are committing against WOMEN here, and now. The way you are acting, and exhibiting this pent up hostility, it gives you away. Not to mention you are offensive. The cats out'a the bag now pierre.

The fact is I can tell you have studied nothing on this subject, and you are simply just full of patriarch hot air. I will be the one to burst your little bubble and bring you back to reality. Of course you'll fight, it's all you know. Stray dogs do the very same thing, when I rescue them too.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kelllie everts aka MotherGod 5 years ago

Teresa – what you wrote is so brilliant & educational it is going into one of my books. I am selecting certain statements from posts, face book, here & elsewhere, for these books - & your explanation is one of the most interesting I have ever read. – Bravo!

Pierre is screaming to us,

“I am in pain. I am afraid. I don’t want to die! I don’t want Mother God to exterminate me!”

He is a pitiful, frightened man, a child who needs a Mother to love & protect him. (BrainFire has been extremely kind & gracious to this screaming menace) But these kind of men are wearing us out. They have done & continue to do, so much damage.

Just as women are now stepping forward & taking over the save the planet & repair it, damaged males like Pierre rant & rave against us to try & slow us down.

That is their very nature – they cannot be trusted or in this case, catered to, as all they do is destroy. Pierre is trying to destroy the valid points in the thread, especially standing against Dr. Bryan Sykes – which is patently ridiculous - & you gave the best answer why he cannot be taken down.

There is another geneticist at London University, Steve Jones, who also agrees with what Bryan Sykes said, in his book,

“Y – The Descent of Men.”

Dr. Bryan Sykes is by no means alone or without peer support! There is actually no one in the field that can stand up to his findings. Dr. David Page tried & failed – Dr. Sykes explains how he failed. (It was a hard-won but pathetic attempt to say maybe we can forestall male extinction.)

Let’s face it, Mother God doesn’t want men around. Neither do I, since I will never disagree with God. This does not mean I hate men or don’t want to have sex with them. I go out with hotties every weekend & planning to build a harem. But as far as their influence on earth, they are the most destructive animal that ever lived & they have to go, & when they are gone, the earth & all life will breath a sigh of relief!

Tidbits from Steve Jones:

Over the last 40 years, though, sperm counts have been falling dramatically. More ominously - for males at least - all the warning signals from the newly dawning clone age suggest that, in the not too distant future, sperm will not be needed at all for procreation. Dolly, the infamous, and much misunderstood sheep, was conceived without masculine assistance. Recently, things have got even wackier: scientists have succeeded in reducing the body cell of a female mouse to half its normal DNA content, and then using it to fertilise the egg of another mouse. The result is a male offspring that has two mothers and no father. Science, it seems, is suddenly telling us what feminists have been saying all along: the future is female.

In the final chapter of his new book, Y: The Descent of Men, Professor Steve Jones writes: 'Perhaps... science will cause nature to return to its original and feminine state and men themselves to fade from view.' He is speaking here, as scientists tend to when making predictions, of the bigger picture, of a time maybe five million years hence. The immediate future, though, is not looking so bright for men either. While we have been self-obsessing about the so-called crisis in masculinity, science is telling us that an infinitely bigger crisis is occurring, and one which is not emotional nor social, but biological. Put simply, men are in terminal trouble, and that trouble is linked to the Y chromosome that defines them. 'The chromosome unique to men is a microscopic metaphor for those who bear it,' Jones concludes. 'For it is the most decayed, redundant and parasitic of the lot... From sperm count to social status, and from fertilisation to death, as civilisation advances those who bear Y chromosomes are in relative decline.'


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Pierre wrote >No Rambo Revenge-Fantasies for you, Teresa. Men will band together and block women, stop listening to tricks like trying to appeal to their chivalrous impulses. Maybe we'll even start the crematoria camps, just for women.<

Pierre, having Rambo Revenge-Fantasies are beneath me.

I see what's occurring now as the swing of a pendulum. Nothing more than that.

As to everything else you wrote it made me chuckle.

If you were trying to intimidate me you failed. There isn't a man alive who can intimidate me. As a child I prevented a child molester from taking a young girl. As an a teenager I stopped a young man twice my size and a whole lot stronger from beating up a boy a few years younger than I was. As an adult I have stopped a man from beating up his girl friend and also physically restrained a man to stop a bar fight.

Making the comments that you have made only speaks of a desperate attempt to improve your own self esteem. Did it work?


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Thanks Rasa! I was just keeping Pierre busy while you were away having fun.


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Ms. Von Werder, Frankly I find it crazy that there is still some debate going on as far as gender status, those of us males that have already crossed over and are working for the winning side find it embarassing and frustrating.The time spent dealing with people like Pierre would be much better spent teaching us what our duties and responsibilities in a Female led world. It is great to be on this hub with yourself, Brainfire, and Teresa, a trio of Modern Alpha Females


Rasa Von Werder aka Kelllie everts aka MotherGod 5 years ago

BrainFire – where do you get the patience? He just needs to be slapped silly.

And re. Rambo revenge: males will be slapped silly in courts of law, in enforcement of laws– in new laws that will outlaw their behavior. Men will be under the control of women by legislation not through discrimination but JUSTICE & through ENFORCEMENT of what already exists.

Men are raping, molesting children, & doing untold damage to the minds, hearts & bodies of others. This is human & animal – all the same. Animals are people, people are animals. Look at the violence done to animals on factory farms & slaughter houses (& in homes, farms, pet stores, zoos, caged hunts, reserves, horse & dog races, mostly done by males...animals that get hurt or wear out get killed on the spot or just discarded like garbage). If you study the animal-rights links, you will want to faint from exasperation - 99 or more percent of this is done by human males, including boys that the males are training to be like when they “grow up.”

The male world is pure evil, pure violence, no compassion, no caring, no empathy, just pure, cold hearted evil, discrimination, exploitation atrocities, greed & genocides. The sooner they are gone the better.

I cannot picture females going on rampages like men, doing atrocities & genocides. But I can picture women passing new laws & enforcing them, as well as PREVENTING MEN’S CRIMES. Example – I have often said never leave a man alone with a child. Eventually all women will awaken to this & follow it. Right now in Canada, males are not allowed to have anything to do with day care. This is righteous as males are extremely dangerous to ANY CREATURE THAT CANNOT DEFEND ITSELF. This would be children, women, many animals, the sick, retarded, & smaller, weaker, vulnerable males.

When a grown woman is alone with a male she always fears the possibility of his violence.

So why would that same woman, then, turn around, & leave a helpless child with a grown male? Do you know what males do to children? They begin molesting them in diapers. 50% of all girls & 25% of all boys in America are molested by their own Dads - this does not include Grandfathers, uncles, boyfriends & other men. What can an infant in diapers to a a man standing over it, putting his penis over her body, her mouth or vagina, or anus? How can a two year old stop a male from breaking her hymen & inserting his penis painfully into her vagina, or a boy stop his Dad from entering his anus? This happens EVERY DAY in homes throughout the world – millions of times.

In Matriarchy, males were almost never alone with children. There were always women around in an extended clan – males were not asked to baby sit.

This will be a major change in Matriarchy – a facing of the facts based on statistics, studies & experience, based on the crimes of males, & women will prevent continual damage.


Rasa Von Werder aka Kelllie everts aka MotherGod 5 years ago

thanks gguy & Teresa, Brainfire, Steve & friends - there is a lot of good stuff being posted here.

gguy - I do agree some of the time responding to idots is wasted, but one thing I always keep in mind is the audience. There are many watching, reading, listening. We post for them, answering the numbskulls. Many of these people would have no idea what to say, & they learn.

And yes, we are always looking to teach males how they will behave in a woman-respecting world. Basically, show respect, do not try to dominate, & in some cases, venerate or worship women as the embodiment of God. You might say it's goes both ways but in honesty women have been worshiping males for a long time now, respecting all their needs, catering to them, serving their bodies. The men need to do the same for us, it's our turn. It really isn't difficult - just do it! And women must expect it, believe they are worthy, & demand this from their men!


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

Ms. Von Werder, Thank You for your kind words


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gguy 5 years ago from new jersey usa

It also goes beyond doing as we are told, to figuiring out what Women want before they need to tell us, Brainfire has been counciling me on this concept, it's called "intuitive obedience"


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

I do indeed wish to thank all of you, with love and gratitude for all your support. Especially Rasa, (Mother...my elder, whom I greatly respect, love and honor), gguy, teresa8go, Bard, wabond, gluearticlepro, and all others, including pierre. I include pierre because he hands over his power to us, by displaying very emotional cries for help, as Mother indicated. He can only speak of what he knows. When one does this, it becomes known the level of development he has reached, or the lack thereof.

It's perfectly fine for him to defend the tyrannical forces that have destroyed our planet, and committed endless documented crimes against humanity. I expect him to do that. What he has failed to realize that even though he may be spewing negativity, it still inevitably brings even more attention to the Matriarchs, to the positive side. Yes I will be there to meet and greet him with the actual facts of current world status. He has been held hostage now for over 40 years or so by the patriarchal tyrants. He is the end product of their violent efforts to mold him into hate and violence. He will now be used as an example of the profound damage that can be caused by tyrants who rule by force. He is their product, not ours.

Now the world knows, and has witnessed his ignorance, and limited education of what the meaning of life is. He is a case I would enjoy studying for sure. With pierre,(should he wish to be a real man and come forth with this data) I can demonstrate all that I say through exposing his levels of nutrients, toxicities, poisons from foods he has consumed, environmental factors he has been exposed to, everything he is lacking chemically, and so much more. The end conclusion would simply prove what I have been saying for over 20 years now. The male population has been rendered useless, and they are greatly affected by everything I have identified in a mathematical break down. The entire array of mathematical facts combined with the discovered scientific facts prove beyond a shadow of any doubt that Matriarchy is the answer. It has always been the answer, and will absolutely prevail for the future of humanity, and indigenous life on this planet.

May the haunting begin, pierre. Please think of Rasa, and I when you view your next porn pic, or playboy magazine. You can come out of the closet now, and hand the torch to whom it belongs to. Your violent reign is over, where'ya been silly boy? Did we wake you?

All moments of life that advance us to the future...are relevant. Including the pierres of the world. They help reinforce our position (Matriarchal Rule) by continuing to demonstrate what has failed previously. He is supporting us right now, inviting himself into the den of Matriarchs, and attempting to take a stand for the loosing side. It's appropriate to his limited comprehension level of the big picture. Should he survive in his violent little world, he will be part of the third group of people who finally give up, and come forth...later. Our trial and tribulation is now, and he is a part of our rise to success, for the good of our planet, humanity, and all it's creatures. Thank you pierre, you have done a beautiful job in relaying your message of the tyrannical patriarchs. We are glad to have identified you.

I hope you are able to read between the lines, and find a less perilous path, than the one you have chosen. May LOVE find you, and grow deeply within your heart.

Love to all!


Rasa Von Werder 5 years ago

Friends – BrainFire – Our work on this thread has not gone unnoticed, as Steve sent me the stats & 923 views are VERY GOOD! After all, only about five of us are posting regularly, the rest must be others!

BrainFire, the way you express yourself is the maternal way, so that even when you discipline someone you show mercy. This is the opposite of Patriarchs. When they post they post TO KILL or render brutal damage, that is how they behave, & I learned from them to fight the same way because IN A WAR you have to KILL THEM before they KILL YOU. Obviously it is psychological warfare, not physical. The males attack ad hominem & below the belt, with no fairness or mercy, only wanting to do harm – this is their style, their stock in trade. They become crude, rude & SPARE NOTHING in their insults. I’ve been debating them internet wise for seven years now & I know how to defeat them, render them helpless. I have shut down many a man who tried to abuse me, & a few bytch women too.

I did not use all my guns on Pierre as he is too pathetic & transparent, but there are males I took down so hard they wrote me personally & threatened all kinds of harm. Hahaha, typical behavior. If & when they have power – they do harm – that’s why they must never have power, their instincts are toward violence.

So you, BrainFire, are speaking like a Jesus or a compassionate Matriarch; I often speak like a warrior or leader of the army of Mother God –

“IT’S THEM OR US.”

The reason I took this stance is most women are so compassionate they stand like sheep before wolves, & the wolves devour them. They mistake KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS & to women who open the door or window to them; they slide in like a snake, thereupon hurting them. Then when the woman complains, they say

“You knew I was a snake – but you let me in! It’s your own fault.”

What I have learned from experience is once they start attacking they only want one thing – to destroy you. They almost never back down or change their views – they are emotionally hysterical & reacting from the lower nature, to de facto beat you up. So the moment males have tried really hard to beat me up, I beat them up worse, so they couldn’t get up any more. I knock them out. This happened many times.

These guys don’t know when to stop slugging & even though they make little to no sense, they won’t stop moving their pie holes.

I do have a big compassionate & merciful side, but that is used on the males who agree, who do no harm, who help with the cause. They are either friends or enemies, the enemies get defeated.

Women, who by nature are compassionate, I think have to start using their disciplinary power on men, be tougher than what they are – yes – be like Jesus at time, as BrainFire here demonstrates – but at other times you have to give them the “Rasa punch” or just knock them out. Reminds me of the lady that got beaten by her husband, brutally, many times. One day while he was asleep she took a full bottle of whiskey & broke it over his head. Then she called emergency to take him for treatment. He never beat her up again. Is this violence? No, it’s SELF DEFENSE.

There is much to say about the gender war. It’s a real war, the original one. Had they not temporarily defeated us, they could never have done all this harm. William Bond made a face book called “The Mother of all Conspiracies” after I said, “The first conspiracy was against women.”

There are many facets to battle, to war. But it’s always them who start it. I call it “fear biting” because they are really, truly, desperately afraid of us. They know we are superior, they know we are their Mothers, they want to destroy their own Mothers, now Mother is destroying them. See my book, url given above

The Future of Male / Female Relationships


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

Oh no a typo...pierres stand for the losing side. I was typing so fast my keyboard was smoking... lol

Any animal can be broken and retrained. It takes about 3 days to break a wild horse, dog, cat, bird, lizard, MAN...Any volunteers? lol

The truth is the Matriarchs love all the creatures on the planet, the migration to love is already upon us, right here, right now. All of us are part of history, permanently. Thank you!

BTW: Mother, I am wearing my Armor, and have my Sword ready, I am right there with you in the front line. Smiles with love!

Cheers!


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Look, you blatherers, if I am not given the slightest consideration as a male and you openly talk about abrogating my civil rights to rise as high as I am able to in any hierarchy, then I don't have to extend any courtesy at all to women any more. I will abandon all chivalrous impulses and conditioning that has been used to wheedle concessions about me, and I will openly work toward the physical extermination of all women everywhere. Because freedom is really much, much more important than the continued survival of a rival faction. And that is what you reduce yourselves with your female-centric talk: not something to be cherished or respected as equals, but a rival faction that takes the bread right out of our mouths for things only of YOUR concern. Death to all women. You will no more win now than you did 6,000 years ago with your weak, effete matriarchies, with no dynamism or spark at all.


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Oh good grief, Pierre! I get busy and I come back to find that you have out done your self. I can hardly believe that you actually wrote what you did. You expect consideration when you have given none of the same? I have treated you with the same level of consideration that you have given myself and others! But unlike you I have never stooped so low as to call you names or make intimidating or threatening comments.

This is a hub on Matriarchy and you have come to this hub to denigrate the information, ideas, and beliefs put forth here. You post your comments solely for the purpose of causing trouble and possibly to stop all productive discussion of Matriarchy. And now you are complaining of being treated as you are. You are being treated no differently than women are treated everyday all over the world. And if you don't like it how do you think we feel about it. We who have suffered the same kind of treatment for millennia. Every belittling comment that has been made toward you I have heard being uttered from the mouths of men all my life.

If you don't like the way you have been treated then why do you continue to post your comments? If you don't like it then why do you tolerate the same comments about women from your male peers? If you think that it is perfectly fine for men to say such things about women then it should be perfectly fine if the same is done to men by women. What's the old saying.... "If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander."

Your comments prove that you are the type of man that commits 99% of the atrocities in this world. The type of man that does not deserve to have any power in this world. The comments you have written down in plain view for the whole world to see can easily be seen by members of the Canadian Police and all others in Canadian law enforcement. While they may never knock at the door of your home or arrive at your employers door. They will be watching you. And what do you think will happen if your employer ever reads the comments you have made? And if the police do come to question you or if you loose your job over the comments you have made I am quite sure that you will put all the blame upon women and none where it belongs - Yourself!


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

I can clearly see Guru Rasa can't get the time of day at HubPages, so she has to "mouthpiece" through Bard of Ely, a male whom I have nothing against at all.

Guru Rasa is a sick individual who openly says she wants to be worshipped as a Goddess, but lies to her followers egregiously. She claims, using selective accounting, that men are responsible for all the woes of the world (of course, since they are responsible for all the contributions of ANY sort, good or bad). She claims women are jailed for LONGER times than men for the same crimes. That goes against FBI statistics. Women can claim extenuating mental-illness circumstances: the fact that they are female is enough. Women are committed far less than men for mental illness, even though 50% of female prisoners in prisons have some kind of mental illness. The women are just allowed to roam free.

Great, a Cosmic Lying Goddess who wants followers based on misinforming them...

Honestly, you will have to re-examine every nonsensical feminist and "matriarchal" belief. The section on Criticisms in the article about Guru Rasa in Wikipedia might be a good place to start. The "A Voice for Men" web site would be another.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Oops, more correctly, the Criticisms section on their article about Matriarchy. All you really need to read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy#Criticisms


Rasa Von Werder 5 years ago

thank you Teresa, I saw his drivel & passed it over for comment as I have no time for the likes of Pierre any more. I am working all day on a book that I can get published in about 3 weeks, uploading the photos of Marcel & myself. This is making me very happy. I am a wee bit tired of thinking about human males & all their atrocities, including their treachery toward those "weaker" than themselves when they have weapons to use. Without weapons they abuse smaller animals, babies, children & women. But with the weapons they have - including poisons & guns etc. - they are destroying everything. So looking at the photos of Marcel nude, with his big dikk & beautiful muscles, is making me feel happy & my hormones charged up - I am feeling good right now & want to stay that way. I might not spend much time on face book any more when I get it going again. Too many risks - all one's work gone in a second. Good bye Pierre, you're ugly inside & out & I don't want to look at you or think about you.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

It's not up to YOU to decide who's ugly inside. You are blinded by talk of "spirituality" where there isn't some. I just hope some belated ADULT experience doesn't traumatize you. You should ease into reality slowly, not when you are suddenly forced to by the events of your life. It's never too late to admit a big mistake and to live your one and only, 100% material life more profitably. It sure beats sitting on a crystal throne of your own imagining, trying to get people to admire you as divine to make up for some lack of attention you had as a girl.


skip 5 years ago

Last I checked Man was still top of the food chain!

The gurus ideas true or otherwise are little more than fantasy and entertainment until this changes.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Connie Chastain of http://falserapesociety.blogspot.com has this to contribute:

"...Anyway, now comes a tidbit of info from Justin Riamondo of Antiwar.com and other sources that three of the most powerful people behind the President's decision to attack Libya with missiles are ... women. Specifically, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Samantha Power, National Security Council director of “multilateral affairs”and UN ambassador Susan Rice. Raimondo dubs them the three Vengeful Valkyries of the State Department.

Regardless of your politics, you must surely see the inconsistency here. Whether you agree with the decision to intervene in Libya or not isn't the point. The point is that violence and vengence are not the exclusive domain of the male gender, just as nurturing isn't exclusively female. Domestic violence statistics prove the former; the heartbreak of countless divorced dads longing for the children taken from them prove the latter.

I mean, really. What's more nurturing than a BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missile?

It's time for feminists to show some consistency. It's time for Sally Field, Jane Fonda and countless other feminists who've made similar claims to ... man up, admit they were wrong and apologize to the multitudes of men they insulted.

But I suspect hell will freeze over first."


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Spirit Whisperer 5 years ago from Isle of Man

An excellent hub and I am now drawn find out more about this wonderful woman who has the courage to stand up to this male dominated society and give them some of their own medicine. Thank you.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Spirit Whisperer! Elsewhere among my hubs I have had one that was unpublished because it was moderated as "biased against men based on gender." It has been republished but I have had to revise the text.


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Spirit Whisperer 5 years ago from Isle of Man

Which one was that? I'd like to read it.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

It is also against rules to promote hubs here in the Comments section so unfortunately I cannot say.


Rasa Von Werder 5 years ago

Spirit Whisperer thank you. There are good men in the world. Then there's the chaff, which the wind bloweth away, but the grain, the good, remains. Another one is j"you are the salt of the earth, & what good would it be if the salt loses it's taste? It would be good for nothing except to throw on the ground & let animals trample it. So you, Steve, Spirit Whisperer & all the fine people here, are the salt of the earth that makes life palatable. Thank you.


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Pierre Savoie 5 years ago from Canada

Oh, how interesting! There is a claim that the Y-chromosome is going to "disappear" soon (what, after 800 million years?) Yet this hub reveals that the Y-chromosome will not:

http://hubpages.com/education/The-Y-Chromosome-Anc...

"Y chromosome palindromes mean that the Y chromosome is well-protected from demise, and will probably not shrink far beyond its current state."

Once again, ego-stroking feminist nonsense gets crunched by real science.


Jyoti  5 years ago

It seems very clear that there is a rift between male and females on this point of matriarchy. Well how about taking a look at it from a science perspective.

Contrary to belief, religion is a science. Science can be defined as being a verifiable truth. The Vedas are the oldest religious or spiritual texts in the world, that have been unchanged as it has passed down from God to teacher to student and so on. All other religions stem back to the Vedas. Sanskrit too is the mother of all languages as it is the language of the Vedas and all religious texts of the time. Still in India, the sacred texts are written in and translated from Sanskrit. This name Guru Rasa is also Sanskrit, in which Guru means teacher, one who dispels ignorance or darkness and Rasa means divine nectar. Put together, it would mean the divine nectar of or coming from teacher, guru. These days even the word Guru is downplayed by putting up guru of fashion or art, etc. Guru is only supposed to be used in a spiritual context.

Anyway, one of the oldest practices of religion that really does answer all of your questions and gives you the highest truth and knowledge is Bhakti, or devotional service unto God. This is the only religion that speaks of developing a loving relationship with God. How is that even possible when we are supposed to surrender unto God and "fear" Him? Well the truth is that only those who do not know God would fear Him, while the rest who are trying to seek Him out see that God looks like that of 16the year old boy with such a sweet and beautiful face. God is eternal and no, contrary to belief, He is not an old man with a beard. What type of God would that be to show signs of aging, especially when in the spiritual world everything is eternal and so time is not a factor. These types of things are not talked about in other faiths because there is has been a lot of changes or tampering with the religious texts. They are not, left "as they are", like the Bhagavad Gita as it it, meaning "Song of God". This answers so many questions about dilemmas we have and gives the truths about God. It answers the most popular question of how to really become happy.

As you go deeper in Bhakti, you see that women actually go the deepest in Bhakti and that men are secondary. It is true statically that women are more in tune with spirituality than men are and that women can surrender unto God and more readily as well. God is the ultimate, He is perfection and can give us real happiness (read the Gita to find out what happiness really is). When we realize out true position, we realize it is with God. However, those who are blinded by ego and false ego (ie identifying with the material gross body and other material concepts), they find it very hard yo surrender and love God and many will believe He does not exist. Men especially are blinded by ego more so than women, but women can also be blinded. This is why men cannot readily surrender to God. This requires emotions and most of all humility. Women are a step up because at a point in their life they received unconditional love from their Mother and later on if they are or become mothers, they give unconditional love. This kind of love requires a lot of humility and emotions and most men choose to have big egos and show no emotions. When it comes to God, He chooses the unconditional love because He is so merciful that He gives the same love in return. This is Bhakti, a link to God through a relationship of pure loving devotion, and do not forget that a real relationship is reciprocal. These are the glories of God.


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