Have You Loved A Jehovah's Witness Lately? (Part 1. First Half of the Story)

(Part 1 of 2 in series)

Part 1. My Personal Story

Let me introduce myself to you. My name is Bob Smith. I pondered long and hard on the tone of this hub. I have seen hubs that are corrective to the point that no Jehovah's Witness would ever read it, or even start it with any thought that the writer would feel anything but ill will toward them. I have also seen hubs that warn others of the Witnesses and their circular reasoning and traps. Those usually are so dire that all who read it sense a type of bitterness, instead of the purpose for which it was probably intended. I decided to straddle the fence, or should I say, dabble on each side. I need to be corrective and I need to warn. I need to be gentle and loving, but on the other hand, the Scriptures will cut through the blindness and it will not be easy to hear. In point of fact, it will be unbelievable to most Jehovah's Witnesses and as the person gives the verses a think, it can scare some, because they begin to see them as true. The fear can get intense (I know) and some can only take so much of the fear before a panic sets in. A thought screams that they are entertaining thoughts of the devil himself, even though it is pure Scripture they are hearing. It is so hard for them to think of anything as true, that contradicts the Watchtower or Awake magazine. I would go so far as to say that I don't know of any Jehovah's Witness (that is not just an initiate) that has ever, in their mind, challenged as untrue any printed statement of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. It would surprise me if any allow a trace of doubt to invade a thought that anything that appears on those pages, may not be of God. All just accept what's written, as essentially, the words of Jehovah God Himself. I realize that is quite a statement even for them to believe but they will have to say it's so - because it is - it is ingrained in the tone of the magazine itself. There are, (as every Jehovah's Witness is taught in individual home Bible studies), a "faithful and discreet slave" class of people that are behind every piece of material that is published by the Society. To me then, as to every Jehovah's Witness, these people will somehow be numbered as totaling 144,000, and thus with the passage of time are gradually dying off and going to heaven. There are purported to be some of these individuals left to assure that all information that is disseminated is without error. They were the ones originally that wrote the materials themselves and now they are the ones that receive it from God and His holy spirits (angels). I wonder if any Witness has begun to ask any questions regarding those individuals. For example: Just how old are these "involved" people that are making sure that nothing has crept in that is not supposed to be there? Since these folks would have to be at least 110 to 113 years old or more, how involved could they be? My sister told me when she called the office of the Watchtower Society in Brooklyn to ask a question that I had posed to her, they had one of these "faithful and discreet" men right there in the office to talk to her! I asked her if he sounded like he was very elderly. And of course, she said no, that he sounded young and very nice. I reasoned with her that if this man that talked to her was at the age of accountability, or able to understand the deep concepts of God and life, in 1914 as is currently taught, he would have to be well over 100 years old and does it make any sense that he would still be in the office and answering the tough questions from you?

My sister and I had many a conversation after I became a Christian, and she loved me enough to listen and interact. (Her motive was to bring me back to the fold. She thought to show my mom that she could reason me away from my salvation and back to going to the meetings. That was so we could all be together and love one another again.) She would listen and my words would strike a cord of truth, and she would say. "I can't hear this any more!" I would understand her fear and frustration, and know that the gospel Scriptures that I quoted to her would not come back void. The fear began to grip her as one Scripture or another rang true. I would tell her that I love her each time. I would understand that she honestly believed that she had been given infallible information from the pages of this magazine that was supposed to be a mere study aid to the Scriptures. I remembered how scared I was (irrationally afraid) when it came to hearing things that were contrary to what I had been taught. I would keep in mind where she was comfortable conversing and go back there the next time. I figured that the absolutely worst thing to happen would be that she would have those Scriptures working in her heart and she wouldn't call me back. And even if that happened, God still wins because God has a living Word and it was working on her as soon as she heard it. She would call, sometimes after a few weeks. She needed it in small pieces. She cried easily because of the confusion she had over how "screwed up" I was. She never gave up trying to convert me back until she herself came to the point of praying for her salvation in Jesus. I am not sure of her heart. Doubts may have been working or maybe she only was saying the words she knew I wanted her to say but she has since gone back to the Witnesses. I am glad for the time I had with her and the Scripture that is still in her and will not come back without working in her heart.

I realize that the statement that Jesus said, "I Am The Way, The Truth, and The Life" is hard for a Jehovah's Witness to ponder because it treads on a subject not spoken by Witnesses. That of the deity of Christ. At hand in the Jehovah's Witness arsenal, are plenty of references to Christ's humanity, but as for references that connect the sayings concerning Christ with the Old Testament sayings concerning Jehovah God, there is nothing to site in their arsenal. The Magazine just groups any notions in that direction as of the devil. As are other traditional Christian doctrines such as salvation, the promises of heaven, and the bodily resurrection of Jesus. Those are the verses that got to me, some as early as 11 years old. I just didn't know what to make of them and noticed them at that time. Between the ages of 12 and 18 God was preparing me to meet Him. I shouldn't have needed that long but I am thick-headed and stubborn. I would not let go of my "pet" Scripture references easily. I was sure that my view of those verses was unshakable.

I used to make my mother so proud because I always proclaimed my love for God. I never missed a meeting of the congregation every Thursday and Sunday. I would underline the answers to all of the study questions in every Watchtower issue. My mother once told me when I was about 9 or 10 years old that she thought I knew more about what the Bible really said then did any minister or pastor in any church. How that swelled my head! My mother loved me because I was learning about a God that loves me. How could I lose? I began to study all the harder. The problem I found at that very young age is that when I read the verse of Scripture referenced in the magazine, it often did not match what the paragraph was saying. At first I thought that it was me reading it wrong and for a couple of years I would run to my mother with my New World Translation open and ask her where it matched. At first it would elicit a big smile and she would do her best to tell me what she knew. Sometimes she would tell me that I would have to go to some elder at the congregation and ask them. But then the tone of her reception changed. She began to see my questions as digging too deep. I remember her telling me, "Don't ever question the Society and Jehovah!" She was so scared for me. She knew that if I kept down that road of digging into the Word of God that I was going to be turned by Satan away from the "truth". She had no idea where it would lead me.

I have no idea what it was. It was probably me reading to find those darn answers directly from the Bible that I couldn't find in the Watchtower publications that made me aware of the depth of Scripture and the shallowness of the magazines and books. I discovered how wondrous the Scripture really was. I remember when I came to the realization that the Bible was really more important than the Watchtower. That statement probably sends a chill down the back of a Witness somewhere. Why? because it brings to mind how the Magazine is held in higher regard than is the Bible itself. The Bible wasn't as important as the words of the Society to my mother. To her the Watchtower was God's way of speaking to mankind. She would get very afraid when I said things like. "Mom, why isn't there more Scripture in the Watchtower?" or "Mom, why don't the verses match what the paragraph is talking about?" or "Mom, which is more important, the Bible or the magazine?" I know, it must have seemed that I was really testing God, but I wasn't. I knew that the Witnesses taught that the magazine was a study aid to the Bible. That would make the Bible more important, wouldn't it? I came to that conclusion at a very young age and held it deep inside. I finally asked that question. My mother could take no more. "I will not stand by while you disrespect Jehovah!" She screamed at me. To her any question that involved any inspection of her religion was an affront to God Himself. I didn't ask her any more questions. But questions still remained.

I read the Bible all the more. My notion was that truth was truth. If something is true it will stand up to any question or problem that anyone has with it. If a liar speaks a truth as it was intended, the statement of truth stands. It is only if the meaning or content, or intent is changed is there cause for alarm. Stupid people can say very smart things. Anyone can point to a fact, and that does not change the fact, that a fact is still a fact. If it is not truth, there will eventually be something that will show up to reveal it. The word truth became very important to me. I remember talking to God. (My mom always told me I could talk to Him like He was a person sitting right next to me). I remember saying to Him when I was about 12 years old, "Jehovah, I want you to show me your truth. I don't care where or who gives it to me as long as it is Yours and it is in Your Bible."

That prayer I prayed as a young child was from the heart. It probably really would offend a Jehovah's Witness that reads it. I'm sorry if it did. I'm sorry if you think that Satan answered it, but you are wrong. The Bible became my study tool and I clung to it as if it were a lifeline. I began to read every day and ask no questions of my mother. That made mom very anxious. I know that she got on the phone with the woman that guided her into the Witnesses and "studied" the Bible with her. She spoke with her every day. She began to be suspicious of everything I did because, to her, I was allowing Satan to direct my thoughts. I resolved to leave home as soon as I graduated high school. I just knew that my mom would be better off without me there and I would be better off without the constant questioning screams and accusations of demon influence in my life. The day I graduated, I left my childhood home. I lived a lonely life for four years. I took up karate for some outlet to the pain. I was depressed.

I got a job with New York State and finally married in 1977. I was happy at first because this woman loved me. I was starved for love. I was thankful to a Gracious God for blessing me so. My wife was actually the first to mention the term "saved." She was similar to my mom in that at first she loved me for searching so hard to understand God but later the tone changed. She told me all she knew as if she was remembering a memorized cheat sheet. (Thinking on it later, I really didn't know if she ever had been sincere with God in asking Him into her heart as personal Lord and Savior). I told her of my childhood beliefs and she didn't know how to refute them so she cautiously encouraged me to keep looking.

From time to time, my depression returned. I had been out of karate for years by then and it was the exercise in that past time that seemed to take my depression away. I tried to find a class to attend and found none that were in my price range until I came across a class being held in the YMCA in Pittsford, New York. I got my sweats on and went to the class that held about 20 young men of college age. The teacher himself was young and very friendly. I was shy and had gained so much weight. I felt clumsy and awkward and was not paying much attention to the discussions taking place here and there in the class. All at once I heard the word witness. The young man was saying that he had gone street preaching with a friend and how he enjoyed "witnessing" in that manner. My attention was pricked. I heard in a short few minutes from various people in the group, the terms: Jehovah, evangelizing, God, and Bible. I knew these weren't Witnesses and my curiosity was on high alert because Witnesses used those same terms. "Can you tell me where you guys come from because you are using my words. Do you guys go to a church?" They all stopped and looked at me and knew all about me without me telling them a thing. I didn't know that they had met people like me before and they just smiled. I knew that I had to check them out so I said, "Where do you guys meet?"

The first time I set my foot in a church I must say I was skeptical. I had preconceived ideas of what I would find, none of which were true. The Kingdom Hall was solemn and quiet and though I heard giggling in the Hall sometimes, there was never laughter, talking happily or any lightness in the air like here. The preacher was the young karate teacher and he was preaching on the Gospel of John. Coincidence? I think not. The young church met in a little tiny clubhouse so small that the nursery was in the unheated sauna. The chairs and equipment for the whole church could fit into one closet that was unpacked and packed away after each service.

The teaching in John was verse by verse and every week that I went I learned the answers to some of the of the most perplexing things I had wondered about my whole life. Verses such as Jesus saying:

"Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have the power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment I have received from My Father." (John 10:17-18)

What was I to make of such verses? And there were a lot of them. The answers were all in the Book, just as I always believed. I went several weeks and heard the plan of salvation. I felt like I would be a hypocrite should I ask Jesus in my heart and not have some of these verses answered for me. I would ask the pastor and the pastor would give me an answer and a Bible passage to read. When one question was answered without fail another one would pop up. After the third week in a row of asking him various questions, the pastor said something very strange to me. He said, "I want you to write down any question you have on a piece of paper and if the question is not answered by the end of the service, then I will answer it for you." I didn't understand. What would writing the question down do to answer it unless I asked him about it specifically? But I did what he asked. And you know what? The question was answered within the preaching every time! I never had to ask him another question that occurred to me. And there were a lot of them, one then another, then another.

Then something began to dawn on me. Arguing about all these little points and being shown proof over and over and over, I began to realize, I was fighting with God. I knew what was being taught in that church was right. I knew that there were churches and groups of all different names and identities teaching these basic truths and I now knew what that truth was - that salvation is in Jesus Christ. I knew that there was an answer to every question and I knew that I could continue to find one argument after another, never embracing what I knew in my heart was truth - that salvation is in Jesus Christ. I did not need every one of my doubts laid to rest to believe I was a sinner and needed a Savior and Jesus was it.

I simply bowed my head and said, "Lord Jesus, I'm tired of fighting you. I know that you died to save me from my sins. I know that I can't save myself. I know that I'll continue to have questions and misunderstandings and problems but I know that you will answer them all and make it plain to me in Your time. Please forgive me and come into my heart and save me. Amen."

It was a simple prayer and I believe God saved me right then. But I also prayed it a few more times because doubts would come in from time to time, one fringe issue or another. I know now that those doubts come from Satan. I am a child of God because I see what the Bible says.

I challenge you to read Part 2. The Bible verses will speak to you. If the Bible is truly the basis for your faith then you have nothing to fear from reading it. I do love you and feel I know you for I came from you.

In Part 2. the reasons and reasoning that made me become a Christian.

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thefount 7 years ago from North Central Louisiana

If you've written this for nobody else, you've written it for me.  Thank you so much.  As I've read this more than once now, I'm picking up on some very good evangelizing tips from your experience: 

Love & Patience, More love & more patience, and even more love & even more patience.  One methodical step at a time, as the Lord leads; loving confrontation based on knowledge and the hunger for knowledge. 

I really like the part that you talked about when your Mom told you that God talks, and that you can talk to Him like a real person!  She may have been off in her doctrine, but that was your wide open door brother!  How exciting!  No rush, but I can't wait for part 2!


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

I'm glad that you enjoyed it. My sister and I struggled with this and she still gets tempted to go back to the meetings because she misses the approval of our mother but then she realizes that once you've been adopted into God's family you are His forever. How could anyone go back to that doctrine and forget Jesus like that?


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SweetiePie 7 years ago from Southern California, USA

I appreciate your story and I think you are far more diplomatic than many would be.


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

One is supposed to show the love of Christ. How can that be done without having empathy and reaching them "where they live"? Jehovah's Witnesses are only doing what they are doing because it is how they earn their "salvation" at least that's what they think. Thank you sweetiepie for visiting. I do so appreciate it.


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SweetiePie 7 years ago from Southern California, USA

I appreciate your empathy and I meant as a compliment that you are able to do this. Not everyone can be as thoughtful as you are, but I think your faith has lead you to have great compassion and insight in these matters.


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

When a person receives Jesus into his heart he is given gifts to work with. Part of learning how to use these gifts is trials that hurt and lessons that are learned. I love because I was hurt and I can see why that hurt was done. I love really easy, like I told my sister in the faith, CarrieBradshaw. She feels just like a real sister to me as do others that are on Hubpages and I feel my heart going out to you also. In the second part of the article there has to be more Scripture to show why that belief system is wrong and I hope that they will feel the love intended when they read it as you do. Bless you.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

The Apostle Paul said he was all things to all men that he might win them to Christ. No one who has not been a Jehovah's Witness can have the same compassion it takes to witness to them. You were delivered as Moses was delivered to set His people free. Just like, I've never had a miscarriage, so how can I possibly minister effectively to someone who has? Our trials are for a specific and holy reason ~ that is to share our testimony, cultivate compassion and through that, people will be saved!


\Brenda Scully 7 years ago

it was enlightening to say the least to read your hub...... glad you are now happy in your beliefs...


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

Carrie, my sister, it is to my shame that I did not understand the simplicity of the gospel before I did.  I really thought one had to be convinced of all that Jesus was, before one could cry out to Him for salvation.  Nothing is further from the truth.  All one must do is believe Jesus died for their sin and realize that He can save them and realize that they need Him to save them.  One doesn't have to be convinced of the nature of hell or what the hypostatic union is.  the man Jesus spoke of that wouldn't even raise his eyes to heaven but beat on his breast and said, "Be gracious to me, a sinner." left that place justified. The basic need of a Savior is how nature itself can witness to man even in a remote country where no one has been, so they are without excuse.  I didn't understand that and all my efforts before my sister was in the circular arguments that Witnesses and Christians get into.  She just cried out to a God that was beyond her understanding and confessed that she needed a Savior because she couldn't save herself.  She asked to be forgiven and to have Jesus come into her heart.  And she added that she knew that He would make Himself known because she was now His child.  She changed dramatically since and the Bible has opened itself to her. 

Brenda,  I hope you weren't offended because of the hub.  I appreciate you wanting me happy in my beliefs.  My beliefs don't count for much because men's beliefs are everywhere and they believe in everything.  I'm more concerned with what the Bible teaches and what it means - my beliefs about it aside.  What does the Bible mean if I were dead and my belief were out of the picture?  Just because someone is taught something or believes in something does not make it so.  Belief in truth is what counts.  Know this though Brenda, no matter what you believe Jesus loves you and wants you to know Him and who He is. 


Justcallmeleroy 7 years ago

No Body, Thanks for the Wonderful hub. My Brother Patience is a virtue and God Bless you. I was raised in The Church of Christ my parents were both dedicated members and I do believe they are saved but one day I will do a hub on my up bringing in that Church. God Bless You


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

hi leroy, I am working on the second part of this hub and it is always hard to think of all the folks misled and yet thinking that they do God a service. They aren't bad people but the effect is the same. They are frustrated and many times confused, led down a path to nowhere and looking to leadership that knows that they are wrong. Love ya bud.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Leroy, I too had an experience with the Church of Christ (no makeup, no instruments, water baptism saves a person and so forth). I went there because of the name of the church, but they were not walking in the whole truth, the liberty we have in Christ. I look forward to both of your hubs (yours, too no body, as I know it will be so powerful). One of our sisters in the Lord (hubber SweetiePie) has written also about her experience with the JW's called "Being Told What to Write". I told her about you, as well. :-) God bless His ministry! Amen.


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

I am almost through with it and it will probably be something that a lot of people have never heard of before. Witnesses are herded into so narrow a corral that they have no room nor time to explore their pasture. (Pardon the analogy) They are kept busy and don't have time to think about exactly where their religion is taking them. Always a new book or magazine. A new sermon to write because everyone preaches. Going door to door and turning in reports of time spent and items sold. When they hear real truth it scares the Be Jesus out of them and they don't even know who Jesus is. Most turn tail and run like my mom. Some try to understand their faith and find that it can't stack up to Scripture, like me. I had no choice but to get saved because it was the only intellectually honest thing to do.


Justcallmeleroy 7 years ago

Yes Mam Carrie I still Love to sing without music because of my up bring no music in the Church and you only carried a New Testament Bible oh yea it had Psalms but they are called the New Testament Church also God Bless you all My Love and Prayers go with you both. Amen


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

Ok you Christians - don't weird me out. No music in church? No bible? Wow.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Yes, I am loving one here on HubPages. He is teaching error and I am correcting him in love.


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

You just keep on loving your brothers and sisters, no matter how weird they get. I do love you all. Hey don't forget to love me 'cause I get weird too!


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internpete 7 years ago from At the Beach in Florida

Great hub, i think it is terrible how often we simply forget to love others. Very convicting for me.


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

Thank you internpete. It is a very difficult people with a very difficult web for man to untangle. So we get intimidated and angry instead of looking past all of that to the people, individuals going to hell. We can love them though.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

By way of an update it seems I loved him too much, for he has closed down his Hub.

I think it was something to do with the JW's cult being founded by a freemason.

Love is such a powerful thing is it not or is it The Truth that's powerful!!??


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

Truth is truth. It is unchangable. It may be distorted but when spoken in light of Scripture, the truth remains. You just keep praying for Him. You can't love him too much. Your Savior gave all for love for Him.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

no body

If he's not called and chosen in this age he will remain in his error until he dies and is raised in the second resurrection, where he will have the opportunity to repent.

My prayers won't make an atom of difference, for only the Father can open his eyes to The Truth and The Truth is His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.


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lfschrawyer1 7 years ago from Omaha Nebraska

Interesting hub, I know a little about the Jehovah Witnesses. I used to work with a woman who was a Jehovah Witness, and she was always giving the Watch Tower. Which I took and discarded as soon as I was near a place I could get rid of it at. No disrespect, but I just cannot read nor listen to the beliefs of the Jehovah Witnesses. It actually feels like it physically hurts my ears when they start speaking. I don't know why that is, she was the only Jehovah Witness I ever knew. I am of the Christian faith and I know Jesus has walked on this earth, and died to save our souls. I've heard people speak harshly about them, like I said I don't know a great deal about them except that I do not want any part of their teachings.


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

After a while the teaching of the Jehovah's Witnesses do not sound so bad. That's the dangerous part. Being a Christian you were probably protected from it. God bless you and yours.


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drpastorcarlotta 7 years ago from BREAKOUT MINISTRIES, INC. KC

Hey no body my opinion is every religion has a good and bad part! And your right, if your not careful, they will kidnap you into their way of thinking which is dangerous! You have to be rooted and grounded to deal with these different religions! I must say, I love everyone and pray that they find the TRUTH! GREAT HUB as always!! Blessings!!!


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no body 7 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

If the religion takes you down a road to hell then whatever good point is voided, I think. Couple that with the lies and heresies and it is a monstrosity. I do love the people though. It's the trap that holds them and springs on others. Love you Carlotta, you beautiful, false eyelash wearing, good makeup putting, sister of mine.


exjwlaurie 6 years ago

My Dear Brother no body,

In some ways this was hard for me to read--yet I was held in rapt attention! It just took me back to those "feelings". Man--your mother sounds just like my mother did when I was little!

You said: "She began to see my questions as digging too deep. I remember her telling me, "Don't ever question the Society and Jehovah!"

My mother would wag her finger in my face and would say: "Who are you to question Jehovah! Don't run ahead of the Organization!" I would get this type of response every time I had a Bible question that was in conflict with what the Society taught.

As I got a bit older, I realized I didn't enjoy the punishment--so I stopped asking the questions. That's not to say--the 'questions' stopped, just that I stopped asking them!

At one point I thought about my mom's response to my questions, and I remember thinking to myself, "I'm six. How can I be "running ahead" of a world-wide religion?"

So I understand your journey, it so closely mirrors my own. How 'so truly blessed' are we Brother, that Christ drew us to himself!

I am so very grateful for his grace in my life--to save a wretch like me!

Thank you for this "labor of love". Your outreach to the Witnesses, many who have this un-named "sliver" in their hearts. They know on some 'soul' level that something is not quite right in believing their doctrines; that their teachings are inconsistant with God's Holy Word.

They "feel" that sliver, its there---but they haven't named it yet. Though fearful, they seek to find that which feels "right" to their hearts.

And here is your insightful hub that speaks to only those hearts which God will bring forth. Here you offer the "living water" of TRUTH, that they will find healing.

God Bless your Ministry!


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no body 6 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

Thank you my precious sister. I know that God is using you too. You add to the voice of the saved children of God that used to be worshiping at the idols of Watchtower. I used to think that no one could ever break free. Then I saw that there were some but not any that were really active and believers in the Witness way just those who were fence sitters. Then God showed me that there are indeed people that were as deep as one could get into the Witnesses that do get out and stand for Christ. Bless you too, and bless the God that would bring you into my life. You are a treasure. Love you sister.


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Elijah Returns 6 years ago from United Kingdom

Glad I am finally free and having the insight now as an insider on the outside looking in............how did I swallow all of their shite for so long..........my wife and kids are still in and still love being spoon fed all that shite from satan..........all the time i was in and I never ever knew Jesus..but, sadly, like don cameron had said, they are captives to a concept, but a very insidious and dangerous one at that


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no body 6 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

I'm glad you are free of the Witnesses. I am free of them and want to see all of the others still trapped to be sprung. And you are right it is dung and doctrines of demons. Many blessings to you and your constant search for the truth.


kerry-Ann 6 years ago

Every one was bestowed with the gift of free will, and Jehovah's Witnesses chose their to preach the good news and to nobody I would suggest you get your information anbout the faithful and discreet slave for yourself. I believe that christ will come to save the righteous and the unrighteous so it is not right to Judge the Witnesses.


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no body 6 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

I suggest KerryAnn that you may not know all about the "faithful and discreet slave". They have their people in a grip that indeed is strong. Most witnesses won't delve too far into their own organization. They are afraid that God will be upset that they questioned those F&D slave folks. I know I saw my own mother go berserk when I as a small child saw some discrepancies. Any question was met by "how can you turn against Jehovah?" I don't judge the Witnesses, I merely inform people I love that are trapped to beware of their leaders and doctrine. People that don't know Jesus as their personal Lord and Savior need to be told of Him. They think Jesus is a created being and that is wrong. They need to know the truth. I have the same right to tell them as they do to tell me their doctrine. I know mine will outlast theirs and stand the test of God's Word. If you think my hub is too harsh it may be you need to know who Jesus is as well. If this statement offends you instead of comforts you (because it should tell you that I care about you) that will say a lot about you.


Mark Lawton 6 years ago

Brilliant!

I am free in my mind, but still have to be a chauffeur at the moment.

The more I read the bible the less I believe the tosh taught at the kingdom hall!


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no body 6 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

Nice to hear Mark! The devil knows that he has had an inroad to your head and will try for years to come to have you go down that road. I remember after being saved for years and years that suddenly someone came to the door out of the blue. They said to me, "We know that you have been mistreated by the local Kingdom Hall back in '73. We have been authorized to tell you that you can be reinstated with no questions asked by simply showing up at any Kingdom Hall and beginning faithful attendence." I had had no contact with Witnesses. I had been wondering for a time how I ever believed such evil. But the lord of this world never gives up totally. The men had addressed something in me that never was addressed before and that was the charges that had me disfellowshipped were not true. They offered to vindicate my name and if that was more important to me than truth and faith, I would have gone back right then. But instead I marveled at how far the devil will go to reclaim a soul. Of course you can't be un-born-again but he would have loved to have gotten all that rot spinning in my head again and to take me away from serving God and true witness for His name. Keep growing Mark and keep seeking truth from His word. Have it be your soul rule of truth and practice. If you don't know Jesus as Savior, receive Him. If you do, cling to Him and grow to love Him more and more.


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April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

Hello, Thank you for sharing this with us. One of my best friends is a JW. We have been friends for 5 years. Early on I had shared the gospel with her, and she seemed to agree with what I was saying. I knew from a previous study with Jehovah Witnesses that we didn't really agree that Jesus died for each of our sins. I frequently share the things that God does in my life with her and often I feel like she is trying to explain them or imitate them in her life as a JW. I don't understand this. My previous study lasted three years so I know our beliefs don't match, but it leaves me wondering how to proceed in witnessing to her. She had recently agreed to study Romans with me on my terms but then backed out and I'm not really sure where to go from here.


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no body 2 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

Hello April, If I understand you correctly, you were "studying" with this friend of yours. It is a slippery slope you try to climb by having these studies. But it seems you are able to hold your own so I give this advice to you and the promise of my continued prayer:

The aim of a Jehovah's Witness Home Bible study is to find any way to get the person opposite them to begin to think like a Witness, to pigeon-hole their thinking into concluding falsehoods about singular Bible texts. It really is the only weapon they have for their reasoning, those out of context, misapplied Scripture verses and the resulting faulty logic conclusions about those Scripture text verses.

Having had this study going on for 3 years is remarkable. I am surprised that this person has not called you a "lost cause" and moved on.

I conducted a few of these studies in my early life. It is a personal one-on-one game of chess whereby the Witness tries to find any chink in the armor of the other person. The trick is (I say this with shame for my participation) that they do not really listen to what is said but always are thinking around the issue, always trying to guide the thoughts back to familiar territory and witness dogma.

By now you should know that Jesus is a sore spot with them. That the Bible's referral to Jesus as the one that is to be central and the one to be glorified is hard to get around. Continued references to Bible truths about Jesus will cut deep. It is where the power of the Gospel comes from. So use it. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

I'd also guess that your friend has clung to the New World Translation like she will drown if she lets go of it. If you have been fortunate enough to get a person that is willing to share out of Your Bible and is hearing bits of undiluted Scripture that will contribute to the truth of the Gospel, then all I can say is to keep adding to the amount of real Scripture in her head. It is the Holy Spirit's job to take that Word given her and to convict her of it.

There is also a book that I recommend to you which has a very valuable text that I think all Christians and Witnesses should read. It is called "Encyclopedia of Cults and New Religions" by John Ankerberg and John Weldon. It has a very large section of material with Jehovah's Witness history which very few people know. Also, in this section of the reference book is court transcripts of trials of early members of the Witnesses and testimony that will give you a sense of how the average members have been lied to by the leadership since its founding until today. I suggest you look the book up on Amazon. I saw their list price as $10.49. It is well worth it for you and for your friend that you at least see this book and see the sources for more information so you will have another thing to help keep focus in this spiritual struggle for her soul.

Keep me posted and I will pray for you and your friend to dig out the real truth for God's glory. Also check out part two of this article. Much Christian Love, Bob Smith.


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April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

Thank you Bob, this is helpful. I do not study with my friend. We studied for a few weeks one time but it just kind of faded away after I shared the gospel with her. Which she was surprisingly agreeable too but did clarify that Jesus just died for Adam. Most of our "religious talks" are me telling her what God is doing in my life at the time or her telling me how great the new publication or assembly is.

You give me some very good advice. When I tell her what God is doing in my life or when she asks me to pray for her, I don't often use his name Jesus. I am also not "quick on my feet" and miss a lot of opportunities to share more about Jesus in the moment.

The previous study that I had done was with a lovely couple of ladies who came to my door. I had initially waved them off, but after they came back a second time and I politely declined again, I felt like God wanted me to invite them in. After 3 more times, I finally did. I asked them a lot of questions and they were always going to find the answers for me but we usually just moved on to the next chapter. After 3 years they did give up on me, The lead person came back a week later and said that she did believe that my relationship with God was real and that someday I would become a JW, but she just didn't have the ability to answer my questions in a way that I could understand the truth. I can only hope that something I said will someday lead her to the truth.

I truly believe that God gave me that study to be an education for me and that is the only reason it lasted that long. I just haven't figured out how to use that education with my best friend now.

I will have to look at that book too. But both Joanne 10+ years ago and my friend now seem to pass that info off as unfortunate history and think that things have been corrected and now they really have the truth.

Thank you so much for your guidance and your prayers. I will read part 2.


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no body 2 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

I know what they think the information is that is in that book. They will think it is just what an ignorant truth-seeker did to get the Witnesses started. They will pooh-pooh the facts away but there are some in there that I saw that made a difference to me. Did you know that there are quite a few other types of Jehovah's Witnesses and that there were major splits over the years? Those things don't convict of sin but they do rock the foundation that the typical Witness thinks they stand on. They get the false impression that the Witnesses have nothing for which to be ashamed, and it just is not true. The information I spoke of is not from the perspective of a disgruntled former believer, but is a gathering of facts in an encyclopedic format and much detail I had never known. Very clear with lists of beliefs and dogma and differences between them and Christianity (Bible Christianity). I will continue to pray for you. God bless you and your spiritual growth. Bob.


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April Reynolds 2 years ago from Arizona

Thank you Bob, that is helpful to know. I will try to remember that I can't see the response in her heart. Thanks again.


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no body 2 years ago from Rochester, New York Author

You are so welcome. Any time you wish you may ask me anything and I am on Facebook should you be on and wish to befriend or ask anything, I will answer. God bless.


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MizBejabbers 7 months ago

You obviously are a very nice and diplomatic person, and I'm glad you have found your niche in God's richness. I don't think we should judge others or try to force them onto our paths. My mom's cousin is a JW, and she insisted on giving my mom instructions in her religion. Mom met with her for about a month, then finally broke it off. She told her cousin that she was welcome to come for a social visit anytime she wanted to, but she must leave her proselytizing at the door. Cousin Flora never returned for a social visit.


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no body 7 months ago from Rochester, New York Author

That's a shame, that a Jehovah's Witness is not allowed to be friends with any that are not in their organization ( other than proselytizing). I am so happy to now be friends with so many people (schoolmates) on Facebook now, that as a child I was prevented from them being my friends. I have one friend that I went to school with that kept telling me that she was my friend even if I couldn't be hers. I am so grateful for her because now I know how very important that was to me at the time. And I not only was prevented from making friends but also when I became shunned by them and I lost my family that then shunned me. It is such a pain to love people that are commanded to hate. Thank you MizBejabbers for visiting and the comment. Bob.


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MizBejabbers 7 months ago

No body, that's so sad. I do have to say that when we were in elementary school, Cousin Flora provided a normal life for her children. Her oldest daughter was one of my best friends, and we didn't know that they were JWs then. Her daughters were allowed to draw names and give gifts at school Christmas parties and celebrate with the rest of us. They also said the Pledge of Allegiance with us in the mornings. We thought they were "ordinary" Christians. It was when we got a little older that we found out they were different. I'm glad you found your friends and know what it is to love each other.


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no body 7 months ago from Rochester, New York Author

After I wrote this article I came across some information about JW's that I never knew when I was one and would have not been allowed to find out if I was to go looking. It is a close-kept secret. Most Witnesses are not aware of it.

I remember when I was a kid that as we would be leaving one of the conventions that on the windshield of the car would be tracts from groups that were formally JW's and now were Christians. I reached out and picked up one and my mom swatted me and told me that they were evil and written by "the Evil Slave Class" of people who wanted to make all JWs turn away from God. When she wasn't looking I grabbed one on the sly and it showed me how to ask Jesus into my heart.

I really didn't understand but I learned that there were people that were not convinced that being a JW was an "end-all, be-all."

Well, I kept that little piece of information then I just recently, within the last few years, ran across the secret: there are different groups whose theology is different but all claim to be "Witnesses of Jehovah" splinter groups and other cults sprung from the original JW belief. Some DO celebrate this or that or all holidays, some refer to the Witness version of the Bible, others to the King James or NIV. It all just makes understanding each individual that much more difficult.

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