How to write Christian hubs

Choose an eye catching logo

Preferably one that matches the content that you want to convey.

It's to be remembered that you are (hopefully) writing this hub for people who NEED Christ, but don't have a full relationship with Him at this time.

Your audience will fit into one of the following categories:

  • Atheist
  • Agnostic
  • Secular humanist
  • Member of any non Christian faith
  • Heretics: member of 'Christian' sect outside of mainstream Christian belief.
  • Hireling Christians
  • Pew warming Christians
  • Christians 'outside the gate'
  • Disciples of Jesus Christ

I may have missed a few thousand categories, but hey! - I'm not perfect and neither are you, so don't sweat the small stuff, amongst our hubbers there are plenty of believers with excellent bible knowledge and years of experience who will (hopefully) correct me (and you) when we're in error.

There are also tons of non believers who will be looking to pick your words to pieces, so, before you start work on a new hub, make sure that the Holy Spirit is with you and you have a peace in your heart (that passes all human understanding) and write slowly, there is no rush.

If Christ returns before you finish, being caught up in the Rapture whist writing about Christ will probably NOT go against you, in fact you'll probably dine out on it for aeons!

Expound scripture, don't just copy and paste it!

Most folk are conditioned to go to sleep when confronted by a large chunk of scripture verse.

Satan loves that.

But printing scripture is necessary, because:

Gods word NEVER returns void, so somebody needs it somewhere!

Isaiah 55:10-12 (King James Version)

For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Accompanying the scripture that you are releasing into the world with a photo will also make it easier to keep your reader awake and alert.

I have had three hour conversations with non believers using scripture the whole time to discuss their problems, and by paraphrasing what the Word states have been able to reach through the defences that would have sprung up IF I had opened a bible.

Jesus used parables to set out His truths and illustrate what He needed people to understand.

You may be the only bible your reader ever meets.

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Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. (Proverbs 30:5)

Remember this, if you use the word of God, there is no weapon of the enemy that can stand against it (and another scripture was use there)and your protection is secure.

When you start into apologetics, you are entering the enemies territory, because you are taking the fight right into the front line.

Satan has most of the world fooled that he does not exist, those who are aware of Satan's power, but are in rebellion towards Christ, will seek to stop your profession of scripture and faith.

Those who are still believing that THEY control their own lives must react to what you say, the demons that control their thinking (hidden in the deep recesses of their soul, like worms and trojans in our computers) are subtle and know that for as long as they keep them spiritually unaware, they will not only be able to use them to 'spam' believers constantly, but have their souls neatly tied up and ready to deliver to their master, Satan.

Their demons cringe when we speak scripture, that's why they react so badly in the forums when you print the word boldly and clearly. If their 'subject' ever wakes up (and I was just such a subject who did wake up) they will not only be evicted from their cosy little soul home, they will have to face Satans wrath at their failure, their losing one measly soul will cost them severely.

Satan has no justice or mercy and certainly no grace with his minions.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. (2 Timothy 3:16)

So use it like the double edged sword that it is, it will separate flesh from spirit and do it with one mighty heft or cleave that you swing.

But the sword is heavy, and you must practise before you go to fight the enemy, to build the stamina needed to wield that sword in battle.

Practice on believers before you face up to the enemy, because...

It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools. (Ecclesiastes 7:5)

There is safety in many wise counsellors, and you have many around you, whether you are a new believer of have been one for decades, you can offer and receive advice and correction.

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Bless or be blessed....

Every person you meet is either in need of your blessing or able to bless you.

You have been chosen by God for a reason:

For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive. (Ephesians 4:12-14)

If you are willing, God will equip you with the tools needed to do the job.

Our task is to make ourselves REDUNDANT, not to produce 'converts' who follow us, but disciples who follow Christ and look to come to the fullness of Christ.

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." (Psalm 53)

Remember, everyone you meet will be either able to bless you, or be blessed by you. When we offer Gods blessing to people, that blessing is the fuller knowledge of God and Christ that they are them missing or depleted of.

I have said 'May God richly Bless you" to people and had them leap up and shriek "I don't want your blessing" - well OK it was not THEM shrieking that, it was the little demon in them that freaked out when they encountered the Holy Spirit of God in their face!

When you 'bless' a non believer you are challenging their demons, expect a reaction, but fear not because:

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." (Psalm 53)
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." (Psalm 53)

Brothers, think of what you were when you were called.

Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth.

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him.

It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.

Therefore, as it is written: "Let him who boasts boast in the Lord. (1 Corinthians 1 26-31)

You were once in unbelief, whether you came to faith in maturity or were born to the Pastors wife, you needed to come to your OWN surrender of your rebellion (and if you have not, you do still need to)

God has no grandchildren.

We each need to choose to submit in and for ourselves, we will stand alone before God, so don't rely on anyone else to get you there and don't make anyone else dependent upon you for their salvation.

The fear of the Lord - that is wisdom, and to shun evil is understanding.(Job 28:28)

Whenever I use this verse the old 'so you fear your puny little god do you' comes out, wheeled out like an ageing relative to settle the matter once and for all that God is evil.

But these folk seem to forget (or maybe never read far enough to know) that God never gave us a spirit of fear, and in this verse he is referring to non believers who DO need to come to a point where they FEAR God before they can get the wisdom to shun 'evil and come to 'understanding'.

Nobody can be saved from a danger they refuse to, or cannot recognise.

Heaven and Hell are written in scripture, we cannot ignore that, even if unbelievers choose to do so.

Therefore we need to make reference to it when we tell people what God states about THEIR condition.

It's not that believers WANT people to go to Hell, it's not even that God wants people to go to Hell, but it's a fact that God MUST provide some place where people who refuse to be in relationship with Him can go to on their return to the spiritual plain, and by necessity that place MUST be a God free zone, i.e. by His Grace God will allow them to exist for eternity in a place where He does not exercise His authority.

Think carefully before you dismiss the fact that unless you choose otherwise, you will go to that place.

That MUST be Hell, because an awful lot of people who deny Christ and God are not actually all that nice, they seem to be more concerned with their OWN WILL than that of others, they get abusive when anybody disagrees with them..... you get my drift.

Imagine sharing eternity with Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot at the top table, with every serial killer, rapist, paedophile, murderer. liar and thief as your room-mates?

That's why God tells us:

Keep reminding them of these things.

Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.

Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. (2 Timothy 2:14-16)

When we are entreating the world to seriously consider whether Jesus was telling the truth about who He is and why He came, if we expect them to try and understand that God WOULD and DID send His ONLY son to die for the sins of mankind, we need to do no more than establish REASONABLE DOUBT that what they believe or don't believe is in error, and that they need to examine the argument for living in Christ before they stand in judgement before God.

Once anybody does that with an open heart, the Holy Spirit can lead them to all truth.

Sometimes we need to loose them from their demons before that can happen.

Sometimes we are too late to do so, their hearts are so hardened that neither we nor the Holy Spirit can reach them.

God desires that ALL will be saved, but will not overrule the free will He gave us, to force that to happen, that's why we need to surrender our free will and chose to live by Gods will.

Yet not as I will, but as you will. (Matthew 26:39)

It is not coincidence that a Satanic creedo is 'Do as you will is the extent of the law'. Satan knows that whilst we are exercising our 'free will' we are ever more in his power.

And the fools don't even realise it, they think Satan does not exist!

...been there, got the 'T' shirt

I was a nihilist for quite a long while, it's a comforting thought to think you simply cease to exist when you die.

Even more comforting, if you progress to believing in an afterlife, is that we all just 'merge' with 'spirit'.........I tried that for a while also.

I almost joined one of Britain's most coveted covens, led by the King of the Witches, but knew before I started that my Machiavellian character would use the power on offer for 'black' purposes.

I've been around the block and have been a spiritual whore, starting with the Bhagavad Gita when I was 14 and onward through most major religions until I was working on the 'other team', but thankfully Christ can clean all that up and turn you into a 'born again virgin' spiritually as easy as that.

The key is in surrendering the rebellion that Satan puts into our souls and that we relish so much.

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This is not a complete work, and may stretch into several hubs IF anybody finds merit in doing so.

Your comments are more than welcomed, they are required, because I do hold myself accountable to the whole body of Christ, whichever denomination Christ has chosen to hide them in!

NB: I study with my King James bible, but for hubs tend to use the NIV (after checking the verity) as it read easier for non believers.

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Ammons1 3 years ago from Tennessee

Praise God! Finding another Christian Author who stands on the true Living Word of God is a Blessing! God will send wonderful testimonies by using the weakness of a person to give glory to the power of His Mighty Name! We all have a calling and a purpose. I pray that every Christian writer will join together and encourage one another in the Love of Jesus. While I am new to hubpages (4 weeks) , this has been encouraging to know that there are others who pursue the same calling.


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Wesman Todd Shaw 3 years ago from Kaufman, Texas

Thanks especially for the Psalms 53 reference - I used to be just that kind of fool, and now I must re read the Psalm :)


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lcbenefield 3 years ago from Georgia

Useful and encouraging. Thanks.


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Thanks Kelly, hope I do not disappoint you!

Comments, correction and compliments always welcomed. :)

John


kelleyward 4 years ago

Just came across you and your hubs! I can tell I'm going to learn a lot from you. I like the quote you might be the only Bible some people read! Voted up and useful!


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Thanks sassysexybossy, hope it gave you some good tips!

John


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sassysexybossy 4 years ago from americus,usa

That is a great inspiring hub.


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Thank you Levertis Steele, and yes it is a factor we often forget to ask ourselves as we meet people, but when we do, it makes the reason for the meeting easier to figure out.

Thanks for reading, thanks for taking the time to re read and thanks for your honesty!

John


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Levertis Steele 4 years ago from Southern Clime

I was very tired when I began skimming your article. As I progressed, I realized that I was missing something, so, I decided to go back to the beginning and actually read it. It was a refreshing inspiration and blessing to me.

You wrote, "Every person you meet is either in need of your blessing or able to bless you." This is a treasure worth remembering each time we meet someone.

Thank you.


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aguasilver 4 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Thanks Eddie, this hub was written a long while ago, but it seems to have long legs.... some of my advice will have changed since this was written, maybe I will do a review on it!

But I still love the top photo!


Eddie-Perkins 4 years ago

Very well written. I’m always interested in reading and hearing how others write “Christian hubs”. I’ve expressed my views so I never bother trying to correct someone else’s views. I figure that if they want are open to change they can read what someone other than themselves have to say – what is working and what is not working for others. At any rate, it looks like you have many hubs that I will have an interest in reading when time permits. Vote up and useful. ~ eddie


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Enlydia Listener 5 years ago from trailer in the country

I'm glad I found this yesterday...I realized that I had become wishy-washy in presenting my beliefs...not that I didn't believe them, but I withheld talking about them to the people who were the most precious to me...my children. Even though we did bible devotions for almost 15 years with our children, most of them do not believe the bible or accept the plan of salvation...that is, that Christ died for us, and He is the only way to salvation. It saddens my heart, but I am encouraged by God's word "all my children are taught of the Lord and great is their peace". I rest in that verse and look forward to the fulfillment of it.


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Carl, to be honest I had forgotten about it until Enlyndia commented, but thought it worth a review as it was so early in my hubbing!


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lone77star 5 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Blessings, John. I finally discovered this hub. Well done!

May the Holy Spirit be with you, always.


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Thanks Enlyndia, your comment made me re read this, and post it to my followers again, for there are many more than I had when this was written, during my first month as a hubber!

Glad you found it for me!

John


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Enlydia Listener 5 years ago from trailer in the country

As I was reading this, I wanted to stop reading and reply, because so much of this spoke to me...but I kept on reading. This hub so resonated with me. I love the Word, but feel some people use the Sword without mastery...it should slip in just nicely where it needs to cut, and not just "bonk" someone on the head...and the purpose is not to kill, but to make alive.


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heavenbound5511 5 years ago from Under the shadow of the Almighty God!

Hi John!

Great page, People need to know what to expect so they don't run away offended. Love them is the key no matter what ugly acts they do.

So if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are dying> 2 Cor 4:3

Good advice, And I always enjoy your pages!


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rpalulis 5 years ago from NY

Just wanted to let you know how blessed I was to read this hub. I think you are doing a wonderful work here,and pray the Holy Spirit continue to lead you.

I look forward to reading many more of your hubs!

Thanks, Rob


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IntimatEvolution 5 years ago from Columbia, MO USA

I am glad to see that you use more than one reference. It is good to read the bible in different variations.


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Thanks onceuponatime66, I must admit that writing has taken a back burner right now as I am busy busy at the moment, but I hope to get back to it when either I have more time spare, or the Spirit moves me to put fingers to keyboard!

John


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onceuponatime66 5 years ago from USA IL

Keep on blessing others with your writing and sperading and sharing our Lord. Where two or more are gathered in HIs Name there He is in the midst.


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aguasilver 5 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Got to confess I enjoyed doing the 'Party from Hell' graphic also, though I thought it gruesome!... but then wherever people who reject God ends up would be gruesome!

Thanks for reading....

John


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LeslieAdrienne 5 years ago from Georgia

Aqua,

I absolutely love this...I plan to use the portion about being in Hell with Hitler and and assorted others. Thanks for sharing...


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DavePrice 5 years ago from Sugar Grove, Ill

The first of many hubs I shall read. You captured the spirit of the medium very well. Its encouraging to know someone who has a great heart for the lost. Thanks


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Woman Of Courage 5 years ago

aquasilver, You have been a blessing to me. Your hubs are filled with words of wisdom from God. Thanks for sharing!


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Whew, so 40 years in sales and marketing paid off!

Thanks Laurie!

Glad you enjoyed it.

John


exjwlaurie 6 years ago

Aguasilver--this is a wonderful and completely relevant Hub for every Christian!

You have blended humor and wisdom, with the perfect Scriptures to bring home the point!

And you are right about the power of the "right picture"! The picture you used, that looks like a box of detergent definately got me to open and read this awesome hub!

Well done Brother!

=) Laurie


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi djbraman,

Wow, you've written another hub in my comments section!

Not objecting, any preaching of the Word is welcomed!


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djbraman 6 years ago

I have come to expect the devil's attack upon the truth of the word. I don't give the devil an inch, because if you converse with him, to try to make sense to him, he will try to bring confusion into the conversation, the devil knows who has Christ in them, and he knows the anointed. He knows the bible, but what he doesn't know is prophecy, because if he did he would have never killed Jesus. So that is why he twist the word and has no anointing to spiritual discern it. Any preacher worth his salt has a mandate to rebuke false teaching, Peter and Paul didn't have a problem correcting ministers misleading the people. That's why the church is in the condition it is in now, preachers afraid to step up to the plate and rebuke the world and Satan and start teaching what a righteous church is. The gates of hell will not stop he Elijah spirit and the righteous end church, it is the power of repentance spoken to prepare ye the way of the second coming of Christ. Satan is the prince of the air, why do people keep engaging him with his 90% truth and 10% lie. The Holy Spirit brings truth to you and empowers you to do what you can not do in your own power. He gives you discernment of spirits, and he knows who has that power. That voice is what makes the prince of demons shutter, but you've got to know what spirit you're dealing with. The prince of demons, Lord of the flies is Beelzebub. He will keep coming at you until you rightly divide the word in rebuking him. Christians need to get back to the altar and put their worldly on it, and come back to their first love. see my hub 'When Your heart is Overwhelmed'


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Kev...

Well you certainly will not get rich writing Christian hubs, from AdSense, to make any money I think you need to become an expert on coffee machines and Rolex watches!

As for the rest of your comment, I believe God is assembling a whole group of people who will point out where church differs from scripture.... and will be blessed and cursed accordingly as we reach the end and people start being divided into wheat and tares, sheep and goats....

Stay Blessed,

John


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Disappearinghead 6 years ago from Wales, UK

Hi John. I'm challenged again here. My motive for joining Hubpages was to give me a platform to challenge some of the dogma that flows about the church that is questionable when one studies scripture for themselves. Let's face it, much of the church barely reads ther bibles and I sat in so many over 25years and heard an awful lot spoken because someone else said it. So I've been building up a few topics over the last 6 months.

After reading your hub here, perhaps I'm sensing the Father would have me change my focus. I have pre-prepared studies that I have wanted to publish but sensed that to do so would be me, my will, not His will. I suppose I'll have to have a chat on my long drive to work.

About the money thing I've heard people mention. I can't believe anyone actually does make any or do they? I haven't bothered to set anything up.

Ta Kev


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Eman,

You remind me of many of the young men we have in our church body, and having just read 'Do we know Him' I don't fear for you!

Advice? - Make the top picture full page, it's more dramatic, and think about putting some 'eye candy' pictures in the main body of text. Adding a text/photo boxes where " i go church to make up for it u know I'm good init." ....ends will allow you to add a photo or two, and allow for an AdSense line of ads to be added to the page, which may bring you some cash!

Apart form that it's fine, though you could run a spell checker over it, but then again you are speaking in vernacular so maybe you want it 'street cred'

John


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The original Eman 6 years ago from london

This is very good hub mate you tackled alot if issue's here its inspiring too check out my hub and let me know what u think thanks


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Unchained Grace,

I'm glad to have been of some use in the appraisal, I spent years editing and typesetting books so I kinda read and edit at the same time, it was my tent making.

Now it's just automatic, but it makes it good for reading scripture because as a typesetter one of THE confirmations about the bible has been the inerrant accuracy of it's writing. I've set for many good authors and NOBODY gets it right ALL the time!

But then scripture tells us that anyway! 'for all fall short....'

Thanks for visiting, I look forward to seeing where your hubs go to!


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Unchained Grace 6 years ago from Baltimore, MD

Aquasilver, you recently diagnosed my Hub "10 Key Steps to Success Through Jesus" and I'm glad you did. As one with a teachable spirit, I do fully realize all of the above in your Hub and want to insure the impact is as strong as it can possibly be.

The little weasels who wander about for Satan know the boss loves an unteachable spirit, for that person can be flipped quickly. You were spot on when you said to use the rules to our best advantage. My goal up here is to first bring souls to Christ. To do that effectively and on a more widespread level, it is advantageous to have more followers. I don't personally care much for any income that might arise. I'll get my reward in Heaven.

Whatever does come my way will in fact be a blessing I can use for our Holy Truth Veterans Housing Program.

By the way, I did approve your comment as I want it up there for others to benefit from. Just like I did.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi James,

"I decided early on not to quote Scripture in my articles"

Very wise, I always take myself as a monitor for what the 'normal bloke' will expect and tolerate.

I just stop reading when I see more than a few lines of scripture in a letter or article. Especially as I normally know and recognise the verses in most instances. So those who know skip the reading and those who don't will turn off, or be turned off by their little demons inside!

The best way is to write scripture without quoting it in my opinion... those who know scripture will understand, those who don't will hear the word without realising it, and the word NEVER returns void!

heart4theword, thanks for the visit, I also will be returning to your hubs.

John Cain, thanks and glad to be of service.


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John Cain 6 years ago from Dayton, Texas

Thank you for this hub. It contains a lot of knowledge that I can utilize.


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heart4theword 6 years ago from hub

This seems to be the hubs I've been reading about lately. Our fellow hubbers are doing a good job, on speaking the truth in love about such a hot subject! I see lots of hubs to read, I will be back:) Thank you for visiting and commenting on my side of the hub-world! Keep on Hubbin for The Lord:)


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago

This article is wonderful and needful in the Community. Thank you very much for publishing this. I decided early on not to quote Scripture in my articles because, as you say, this big shield goes up automatically for the lost.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

I can't get back to the forum until Sunday night, got a time out for being nasty to Evo! - but in any case I realised that I came here to write hubs, not gossip to windbags like Evo and Cags etal, who as a tag team anyway set out to disrupt any real debate.

Hubs are one sided.... mine and Gods!

I always approve comments, but then again I always have the last word!

Thanks for the fanning, I hope you visited EVERY advertiser also (joking) and I fanned you also, I just read your hub on reading the bible, sound advice!

Stay Blessed.

John


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UPStar 6 years ago

What a great topic you chose! I enjoy your humor. It does get a little scary over at the forums where I occassionally hang out and get into minor debates with atheists. If I could write about some other subject I would cuz I could actually make money that way... But I love God and the Bible and it tends to take over my hubs. Guess thats what I was born for or something.


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

Good Night and sweet dreams


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Some valid points, we will continue no doubt! - but for now it is my bed time!


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

I don't know who Alice Baily is. I only know from my personal experience that the Jesus that is portrayed in that Bible is not who he really was.

I find it interesting that the records were all destroyed in the year AD70 and then later close to that era the Jesus was all in the news and we now have and know who he really was and all the words that he had ever said quoting the exact words even. I don't know about you but it is hard for me to remember conversations and exact wording of someone that I had 40 years ago. Those who supposedly wrote down his exact words were not any better than you nor I and they didn't go to college to learn some of the stuff that we do today. What we know today was never even an inkling back then.

The words that are put in the Bible by many people about a certain peoples is their own recollection of things from their own experiences and such. It doesn't mean that they are true or not, but only from their perspectives. There are many things in that bible that we have today that have been ommitted one way or another. Words have even been changed and thoughts and ideas have been changed as well. For instance most of the Angels and their names were ommitted in the 6th and then again in the 15th century, leaving only 3 today. They were in there prior to those ommitions. Enoch was ommitted from the Bible---not because it was heresy but because the scholars of those times didn't think that the general population could handle what it says in there. The main problem with that is that most people didn't even know how to read. So why the fuss in the first place.

So now we follow Michael and not Jesus?

Do you ever watch the History Channel or are the historians and archeologist wrong too, as one of my friends told me before?

Thank you for not calling me names. Most people who call themselves christians will at first tell me that I am a very angry person and then tell me that I hate God or Jesus and then when that doesn't work they resort to calling me names. It is a pattern with them that I have found to be true ever since I started my journey that Jesus/The Holy Spirit/God/Creator set me on.

You can't say YOUR God, because there isn't a personal God. You cannot claim ownership of him and make up the rules as to who and how others see or know abut him. He is much bigger than that. That is the problem with religion. Everyone want to have it all and call it their own and make rules as to how or who should see him. No one has that authority. We are made of it and we will always be part of it and we can never leave it and it can never leave us. That is a myth used to divide and allow those to be elitists. God is not an elitist.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Lady G,

It would be good to sit and chat awhile about Christ, I would guess we could have some fine conversations, and I suspect that we would need to discuss Alice Bailey and her works to establish which side of the fence we were individually sitting, and whether we were ever liable to sit on the same side.

At least we don't sit ON the fence!

I won't call you names, for it is not for me to judge you or anyone except myself.

I will call an atheist a fool, because my God tells me that he or she is a fool, so it's not MY judgement, but Gods.

I will call Satan or Lucifer a liar, murderer, cheat and deceiver for the same reasons, because that is how God addresses them, it is a job description rather than an insult, for although I no longer fear Lucifer (or Satan as may be preferred) I do respect that they have legitimate powers on this planet I temporarily occupy, until I return home. Besides if Michael was circumspect, it is prudent to follow his lead.


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

Have you ever seen the movie, "The Gods Must Be Crazy"? It is a funny movie but watch and liten to how they experience and the words they come up with to describe modern day things. Here is the first part of the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66pTPWg_wUw

I believe in Jesus--or the Christ Consciouness. There have been and are many who teach the same things that he was teaching those Jews back in his time. There were many who taught those things way before his time too. The Holy Spirit can be from anyone and no one can really tell for sure if anyone is speaking from them King James was a King in his day and the history of him and what he did to the words of the bible is his history.

The word ws made flesh--as in Jesus in his time. Flesh is the Body--our Body, and Our Body is the Temple of God and it was made good.......then somewhere down the line from being good it is now considered a tool of Satan. I find that strange that in the beginning is is good and then it is bad--it cannot be both and I would rather see it as God made it--Good.

I do not and never will deny Christ for he is in everyone and in everything--just like we are and God said so. Though most will tell you that I am not of God nor do I believe in him and Jesus too. They also call me a liar and Satan. Go figure!


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

I think you will find that ALL of the jewish certification and geneological lineage was destroyed in AD70. when Rome turned Jerusalem and most of Israel into a smouldering heap of stones.

The reference to anger management was more towards the presentation of the 'evidence' than the product delivered.

The quality of their argument seemed deficient, but I may have missed something as my audio is not working on this computer, so I had to rely upon their visual presentation, which was scratchy to say the least.

The Holy Spirit will ONLY wax from a Christian, there are many spirits that will wax from whoever will give them entry and their head, but the Holy Spirit does not reside in the unbeliever.

Lady G, it's quite possible that we don't agree on many issues that you hold to be essential to fellowship, and I fully understand if you chose to see me as a heretic to your brand of Christian belief.

I'm open to correction, but it needs to be from scripture and confirmed by the Holy Spirit.

I'm sorry, but I used many books before I came to faith, and I was probably one of the most reluctant converts to Christianity one could expect to meet.

I have for the last 16 years depended upon my trusty KJ for my study, I've read many other books in that time questioning the existence of Jesus, the birth of Jesus, the divinity of Jesus and the possible descendents of Jesus. It would seem that there are many authors who would seek to disprove the whole Jesus 'thing' - I have not been convinced or convicted by any one of them, mainly because I could no more deny Christ than I could my wife.

We don't always agree, but we are always together.

It's a marriage made in heaven.


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

I find it strange that the first things that comes from anyones mind when someone has a differing view is that they are angry and need some anger management.

Where is the birth or death certificates for Jesus? The Jews were highly into that record keeping in those days because that is why they had the census? Where was he really born as no one can find it? Joseph was VERY wealthy but the Bible portrays that Jesus was very poor?

Yes I pose questions, just like you do. Funny that you say that you worked for Satan, but I have no records of you working for me. LOL Someone called me Satan on these woderful forums and pages and I wrote a Hub about it.

Now leting the Holy Spirit lead--well that would depend if it wax from someone who claims to be a Christian or not. That is what I get out of all this Chrisitian stuff. It really isn't Christian, and in what the Church teaches, but more of what Christ taught in the Bible--and they are different in many ways.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Can't go wrong there Hoo!

Thanks for the compliment.


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HOOWANTSTONO 6 years ago

There are many ways, I just let the Holy Spirit lead the way and all are covered.

Nice HUB bro

Go well


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Lady Guinevere; I have studied enough Bible and other source evidence to accept that the bible is not 'hearsay'- it may be that Constantine did corrupt sections, that Nicea was a fix to a degree, but if God is truly omnipotent, which I believe, then He will have given to the world a word that is sufficient in all things to lead people to the truth.

The primary truth is that Yeshua ben Yosef was Ha Maschiach, and that's sufficient for me.

Now discuss how accurate modern translations may be I have no problem with, examining how the Jewish Torah can differ from the Douay Rheims or the KJV old testaments is fine.

But the divinity of Christ is outside my brief.

I watched a section of the video link you sent, whoever created it needs to get a life and a bit more biblical understanding, and some anger management would probably lower their stress and blood pressure levels.

creativeone59, thanks for singing from the same hymn book!


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creativeone59 6 years ago from Gold Canyon, Arizona

Thank you so much for very a enlightening and uplifting hub, I enjoyed reading it. As you can see I am a believer of Jesus and God the father and the word of God. thank you for sharing it with us. creativeone59


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

Those things that were writen in the Bible, no one for sure can tell if they are true. Al we have is heresay. About the sex, well you have read the bible that much to know. Neether have I but there are several things out there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxyAZWJBBg8

That would be from my hub on Pornography.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi Lady G,

Lot's of what you say there is correct, I had a propensity for generational curses over my life, my dad had 'innocent blood', my grandfather was in masonry, and I don't know who but someone was surely into sexual sin!

When I was clearing the curses associated with masonic stuff, I suddenly realised that yes my forefathers had landed me with generational curses that affected my life, but it was me that endorsed them and reinforced them.

I do believe in Satan, I worked for him for a while, so it's difficult to deny him, plus he seems to pop up all over the forum, but I won't argue with you about him, because if he exists, he's got nothing on me, and if he doesn't, he's got nothing on me.

I seem to remember that Jesus told Peter to get behind me Satan, why was that, and who was Christ referring to if not Satan? - and didn't Satan speak to Christ in the 40 days wilderness trip?

I only tend to quibble on areas that could have any eternal bearing on me.

I certainly agree that we can do nothing to get into heaven, and that no man can help anyone, that's why I like the hubs, because God just puts whoever He wants in front of me and they either read and agree or not.

All I do is raise questions, they have to answer them


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Lady Guinevere 6 years ago from West Virginia

Yes it is a good witnessing tool. One just needs to know who one is witnessing for and about. There are many different versions of that same Bible and one needs to learn what versions have been tampered with and revised to what extent. I don't believe in Satan and that is NOT a New Age thing. When God made us he gave us a gift and we have mis-used that gift so much. When we do things and things don't turn out like we expected them to we go back and we blame that on God or on Satan or demons or the devil, but we don't take our very own doings as being self-acountable. We want to blame everyone else but not ourselves for what we have done. That was God's gift to us--that we be held accountable for ourselves. We have mis-used that gift. We also tend to think of what God's thinks about things, but that is a false assumption because we are men and we don't know what God is thinking let alone what God is. God is not something to be put in a box and keeping it from anyone else until they have passed some law that we have set up. In the Bible God tells us that he calls us, don't call him. Jesus says the same thing, yet many say that to get into heaven or anywhere else we are the ones that have to do the calling. Jesus says that all the laws are in the hearts and minds of men. He put it there so that we can test the spirits and everything that is said about or to him--after his death.

The God that I know is much, much, much bigger than the God that is in that Bible.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Hi 50 Caliber,

I thank you, because Gods word NEVER returns void, it always accomplishes what God wants it to do.

I've only been here 20 days and my hubs are mostly Christian and all contain some bible or scripture, even if it's covertly inserted! - The compliments are nice, but the real fruit is that there are 600 or so people who have read these hubs to date, people that I would not have been able to reach sitting here in Spain at home playing games on Facebook.

It's a joy to be able to bring a blessing to anybody, and it's better to give than receive, but receiving is pretty good also!

We have a wonderful witnessing tool here in Hub pages:

The ability to write hubs that will bring Christ to people who maybe would not have that opportunity except though these pages.

To present the Gospel in ways that will cut through the religious nonsense that seems to have driven so many people away from God and into the arms of a waiting enemy, who seeks to destroy those he may.

Let us believers use our time wisely to bring Glory to God and the lost to Christ.


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50 Caliber 6 years ago from Arizona

Thank you for your insight and a blessing to those who would receive it. I pray it brings blessings to you as well.


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

...and I thank you also sister Carlotta.


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drpastorcarlotta 6 years ago from BREAKOUT MINISTRIES, INC. KC

GREAT! GREAT! HUB! Thank you for the blessing my friend!!!


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain Author

Well I thank you Pam, I needed that!

All this stuff has been rattling around in my head for years, all spoken to various people during ministry, or just when I've been called to defend our beliefs.

It's good to get it down on 'paper' - even digitally!!!


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spiderpam 6 years ago from USA

Love it! You have been a true blessing to me! Thank you for this. I'm book marking this one!

Pam

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