Dealing with Nasty Christians

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One clear night recently I was out walking the dog. I looked up to find a full moon moving steadily across the sky. Of course a second's reflection revealed that it was but a wisp of cloud in front of the moon being chased by a gentle wind. Have you ever sat in your car on a parking lot and had it suddenly roll forward? You slam on the brakes, only to realize it’s the car next to you pulling out. I’ve embarrassed myself on that one. Yes, I was all alone in the car.

What’s going on here? Two rather silly instances of fallen humanity’s default mode: I put myself at the center of the universe. My senses signaled, “the moon is moving!”, “Your car is rolling!” It took only an effortless second for my head to instruct my senses. “It’s not about you, Crane! There are geophysical laws that contradict your initial impressions. Better change your mind, or you’re gonna look pretty foolish. You learned that in 2nd grade ‘member?”

You'll notice that every allusion to or quote of a Bible passage is linked to the actual English Standard Version text of Scripture. I've read lots of interesting and helpful insights on HubPages, but when all is said in done we're just exchanging opinions. Consistent Christians bring every thought captive to Christ who speaks in the Scriptures (See? There, I did it again). I don't suggest that my interpretation is the best or final one. But if I'm wrong, show me from Scripture.

Of course those who don't accept the authority of Scripture will, no doubt, disagree. But if they disagree, let them disagree with Scripture, not with yet another human opinion.

That default mode

Jesus' disciples once asked him, “Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of God?” Default mode! The Master's answer offered them a series of scenarios, all packing the same lesson - "Yes, your brothers and sisters can be nasty. Deal with it." First, he called a nearby child to their attention. "You need to be like him, humble, teachable. In my kingdom humility is greatness."

Next scenario. The world is full of people making excuses for their bad behavior. Jesus instructed his disciples to avoid everything that might tempt them to do wrong. "If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut if off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire." Now this is a rhetorical device called hyperbole where something is deliberately exaggerated to get your attention. Jesus didn't mean that his disciples should engage in self-mutilation. He did want his kingdom people to take sin seriously.

Jesus then upped the anti another notch. The great among you will seek out and care for the least and the lost. Just like a shepherd leaves most of his sheep to rescue the one who has wandered off, Jesus' disciples will value the despised and forgotten.

Finally, Jesus posed another scene. "If your brother sins against you..." He seems to expect that his followers will annoy each other from time to time. As we'll see, the great in Jesus' eyes are those who don't retaliate, but forget themselves to reach across the offense to reclaim a friend.

Jesus offered four scenarios, all requiring us to get off our personal greatness pedestals to think beyond ourselves. Kingdom living is living for others under God’s direction.

You're hurt by other Christians

A watching world loves to deride Christians for cutting each other up. We give them plenty to delight in. By so doing we deny the very gospel by which we are saved. The gospel sets sinners free from the need to assert ourselves. In Christ we are as loved right now as we can ever be. Hurts from others then become opportunities to discover the staying power of God's love and to reach out to the offender. Let's track together, then, with Jesus.

He starts by posing an all too common situation: "If your brother sins against you..." He contemplates a fellow believer, not someone outside the faith, hurting you. This is the place to start. By the way, there are those who believe that, once you come to Christ, you no longer do wrong. Jesus would not agree. Instead, the Savior envisions a circle of imperfect disciples gathered for mutual support and accountability, a church in its most rudimentary form. What these disciples have in common is a longing to overcome their sin and weaknesses. Inevitably, sooner or later, someone will do wrong and hurt another. What to do? Sweep such events under the rug, and keep trucking with our cool programs and projects? No, Jesus commands another course of action. "Stop everything, sin is serious!"

What is sin? The Bible says, "sin is lawlessness ." So sin is any behavior, attitude or commitment that either stops short of what God commands or violates what God has forbidden. You'll find a summary of God's law in the Ten Commandments.

God's law is spiritual, meaning that it is not a cold set of regs, but rather the expression of the heart of God. So you look beyond the immediate words to the character of God. If He forbids adultery, he must long to see purity. if He prohibits theft it’s because He wants you to earn an honest living and be able to give to the poor abundantly and joyfully, not by coercion (governmental or otherwise). Of this you can be sure. Any time you break God's law, you'll hurt someone. That's why Jesus says,"if anyone sins against you. "

The reason it’s important to define according to Scripture the alleged offense is that we’re apt to confuse disobedience with immaturity and giving offense with taking offense. How will you know the difference?

Follow Jesus' instructions

Jesus prescribed a four step plan. It starts with,“Go tell him his fault between you and him alone.” (vs.15) Genius! Must be, because so few people do this. We'd rather gin up a head of steam over the hurt and tell others so we'll feel vindicated. Default mode!

Let's say someone has spoken ill of you. Instead of, “I’m really ticked that you said that about me...”; try this. “Help me with something that feels like gossip. I heard you said this about me. Help me understand what you’re thinking.” I’m persuaded that a sensitive and timely one-on-one is all that’s needed in 99% of sin situations we encounter.

But of course, there will be instances in which the offender doubles down, gets defensive and lashes out. Jesus says, “Take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses” (vs.16).

The idea here is not to gang up on an unsuspecting brother, but give him the benefit of the doubt. Note the reason Jesus states, “that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.” The witnesses are there to observe how you approach the erring brother.

Your approach is not, “You won’t listen to me, let’s see how you do when I bring a few others along.” But rather, “I know we already talked about this, but I’m still troubled. My respect for both you and the Lord won’t let me sweep this under the rug. So how about we sit down again and this time we’ll invite a couple of others to come along. Do you have anyone to suggest?”

Tell it to the church?

Suppose there is still resistance. Now the issue is known by you and the one or two invited to the second encounter. Jesus' third step is, “Tell it to the church” (vs.17). This is early in the organizational history of the church. He no doubt has in mind the circle of believers in which both the offended and the offender are members. The word "church" means "called or gathered out."

Assuming goodwill and mutual submission among the offended and the one or two that joined him for the second encounter, one would expect that they agree on the timing and manner of the next step. See, the hurt is no longer owned by the original offended party but by all three. This is what it means to bear one another's burdens.

Jesus is clear in His instruction, but there is an amazing amount of freedom given on how to proceed. I don't think He meant that it's OK now to broadcast the offense to any and everyone. Rather, He expects that the matter will be raised with the leadership of the group. The implication is that if the leadership wants to drop the matter, it's dropped. On the other hand, if mature leaders deem the matter offensive, all parties now submit to their judgment. The leaders, whom the Bible calls shepherds, now address the offender. All this is taking place within the context of a mutual commitment to encourage godly living. That's the core commitment a person makes when he joins a church. Anyone can attend worship and participate in fellowship. Only the members have agreed to welcome close accountability from their shepherds.

But suppose the offender still resists the efforts even of the shepherds. Jesus' final step is “Let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector” (vs.17). In I Corinthians 5, Paul referred to the same step as delivering the offender over to Satan. There's a lot of misunderstanding of these statements. Neither Jesus nor Paul meant "consign the person to hell." No human being may presume to do that. Rather, what's meant is "regard the individual as an unbeliever."

The Scriptures teach that a person's faith is demonstrated by his behavior, most particularly by how he treats others. So when the person who has once professed faith resists all efforts to show him his sin, it's reasonable to conclude that his faith is not the real thing. It's the awesome and humbling responsibility of church leaders to make this call. When done in the manner and spirit commended by the Lord of the church, their actions are endorsed in heaven. That's excommunication. After loving due process the resistant offender is regarded as outside the communion of believers.

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Church Discipline?

What I've been describing above is church discipline. I wouldn't be surprised if most reading this have little or no experience with the concept. Many churches don't practice this sort of thing nor would the people welcome it. And the world sneers at our hypocrisy.

Indeed, there have been some horrendous abuses of church discipline. Church leaders have often proven to be unworthy of the responsibility their Lord entrusts to them. There have been miscarriages of justice. Still, Jesus words ring true and valid.

Let's say you know and love Jesus. Even if you disagree with some of my points, can you deny that Jesus addresses what you should do when a brother sins against you? Have you attempted any of it?

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liftandsoar 2 years ago from Richmond, VA Author

The deleted comment was mine, a duplicate of what is there. Don't know why it appeared twice.


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liftandsoar 2 years ago from Richmond, VA Author

KC, I see all your comments. Your original comment to which I responded and three more. I don't think they have been deleted. I hope you can see my response now. It may be that there's a hubpages rule that says that visitors may respond only once. I don't know. If that's the case you could join. There are many who join just to follow more closely those who write. And it's free.

To you last few comments, the only way I know to deal with hurtful comments by other Christians is to confront them according to Jesus' instruction in Matt.18. But know that when you're already down, it's hard to get up the courage and witt to address the matter directly with the offender. Here's where you need to trust your Lord and jump in.


KC 2 years ago

Not sure why my recent comments got deleted since I was agreeing about the personal hurt from my previous post and wanted to share an experience to clarify, but this seems like a closed circle considering the nature of this article. I thought my post was within reason. Ouch! I won't bother coming back here if that is the case. Regards!


KC 2 years ago

Sorry, love bombed by that church, to clarify :)


KC 2 years ago

Thanks, liftandsoar, yes I do have some personal hurt in that post. Initially, I had come from this legalistic church before. I went to it after having to get out of an abusive marriage the first time around because I was pretty much love-bombed. Well, after attending for a while enough to feel like I trusted these people, and then "sharing my junk" as I was instructed by a discipler, it was used against me, behind my back, I was the last to know.

People who I thought were my friends and a few leaders there had told whoever wanted to get to know me that I was "a bad influence" and "emotionally unstable". At least two guys, including my husband now (who has actually been real good to me) were discouraged by lifegroup leaders from pursuing me.

It really hurt my trust in other believers at that point because I poured my heart out to who I thought were good Christian friends. So there you have it, I still get a bit reserved but maybe it's that reason I feel like even believers would know better at church I went to later that wasn't legalistic. These college age members were friends to my husband but when he wasn't around, one time called home my "boy toy" knowing I was a few years older than him and laughed. I don't mean be perfect but that was just uncalled for. Yes, it does set me off, it pulls at my heart. I would have hoped to get across the frustration I have for those who identify as followers and then treat others like dirt for the sake of self-righteousness. Anyway, see what I'm saying?


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liftandsoar 2 years ago from Richmond, VA Author

KC, Yes there are plenty of people who carry the name Christian who betray the Savior by their behavior. No Christian is perfect. We are Christian not because of our behavior but because of what Christ did for believers. He died to accept the penalty for our sin that we deserve. Believers who understand that (the gospel) are motivated to avoid sin but when they fail they seek forgivness and God's grace to do better. I can sense the personal hurt in your comments.


KC 2 years ago

In my opinion, people who say they are Christians should at least know better from the Bible and sermons to treat others how they would want to be treated. I remember these two friends of my husband who were Christians, but when he wasn't around, knowing I was some years older than him, called him my "boy toy". They both laughed and I said in his defense that he is not a boy toy. For someone who calls themselves christian, going on a college missionary with a person who they call names behind their back while being nice to their face, makes me sick. So is a church hiding things like a rape done by a member (or police officer in this case). I have to question what "Christian" means anymore. This is not what Jesus would have wanted as an example to show others, things like "God hates fags" etc. I couldn't care less for being picked apart for my comment, I have every reason to post it. I am straight for the record but that's the kind of nonsense I mean.


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liftandsoar 2 years ago from Richmond, VA Author

2besure, agree with you totally. When Zacheous came to know Jesus, he not only repented and was forgiven, but made restitution to those whom he's swindled. Church discipline used by God will bring about repentance. A signe of true repentance is that, like Zacheous, the penitent accepts the consequences of his sin, one of which may be to suffer the penalties imposed by civil law. No church is justified in covering from public justice one of its own, now matter how spiritually peninant he may be.


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2besure 2 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

In response to the section of discipline...A police officer was accused of rapping a young family member. When the family brought it to the church, the Pastor convinced the victim not to report the violation. Too often in cases like this, the church tries to cover up sin. The officer who attended the church, should have been turned into the authorities. Now the child has been victimized twice, being made to feel if she turn the rapist in it would ruin his life and his families life.

In cases like the sad story above, it is not enough for the person who has sinned to repent and ask forgiveness. They have to pay the piper!

Eventually the crime was reported and the man and his wife, who know about the abuse was silent are in jail. I believe in church discipline, but when something is done that is illegal, it is the churches responsibility to obey the laws of the land.

Some issues should not be left to the church. Too often the church tries to hide the sins of the leadership and its elite members. Much like the catholic church other churches are too busy trying to protect the repetition of the church rather than do the right thing.


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Dave Mathews 4 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

If, a brother or sister sins against me. I will forgive. This doesn't necessarily mean though, that I will forget. Lessons are meant to be learned and remembered, no matter the circumstances.


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liftandsoar 4 years ago from Richmond, VA Author

Thanks Deborah. Hope your prayer group finds it helpful.


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Deborah Brooks 4 years ago from Brownsville,TX

Great hub.. I am sharing it on my prayer page..

debbie

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