Inspiration & Why I Trust The Bible?

Bible Inspiration?

Psalms 19:14  May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.
Psalms 19:14 May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.

“Can I really trust the Bible?”

I am occasionally asked, “What is Divine Inspiration of the Bible?” Of course, what they really mean is, “Can I really trust the Bible?”  I have pondered many hours over my life and ministry as a pastor concerning this ominous query.  I really want to give a full proof, beyond any doubt, kind of answer.  However, I have discovered that it also is part of my faith.  I believe in God and in His only Begotten Son, Jesus.  I believe in the Divine and my salvation by simple faith.  It is no great leap to believe that He, who is most holy and most loving, would send me “love letters.”  They must be inspired.  This is what the Bible is to a Christian.

I would not have you to misunderstand me.  Faith does not mean that my belief is without reason.  Faith and reason are but two sides of the same coin.  You cannot have one without the other.  Without reason, there is no meaning to life, but without trust, there is no real living as we know it.

Hebrews 11:1  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Reason evaluates what we see, faith responds by giving it meaning.  When I consider the question of Biblical inspiration, I begin with observation.  I look outward from my country home; I dazzle at the beauty of the foothills to the Smoky Mountains behind the green pasture land; I glimpse the sky blues dotted by cotton fluffed clouds; I hear a heavenly chorus of birds; and I know there must be a Creator. There must be something “unseen” behind it all.

As a Christian I accept several things, both by reason and faith.  God has provided a Bible, and I accept the “cannon” of 66 books as “inspired” of God.  Within this cannon, there are 39 books of the “Old Testament” and 27 books of the “New Testament.”

I will now relate some of the reasons why I believe the Bible is both trustworthy and inspired.  This hub is not an apologetic for the great doctrine of verbal inspiration, and I am not rehashing what many theologians have written great books on.  I am but touching the hem of the reasons I accept this book as from God.  If you desire to argue these points, you are free, but I urge you to allow the majesty of the Book to breathe its life into your soul.  It is certainly my guide to happiness.

Biblical Inspiration

What is Biblical Inspiration?

As a Christian I accept the Bible as inspired. “Inspiration” (Greek is ‘theopneustos’) literally means, “God-breathed.” It is also referred to as “verbal inspiration.” What this means to the child of God is that the Bible is given to us by the Holy Spirit, and is not simply the words of men.

Reason One why I see the Bible as trustworthy: Through its words, I find Jesus Christ as my personal Savior!

I am a “born again” Christian and I found my experience and relationship to Christ through this book.

(John 8:32 Bible KJV) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

When I was saved, I came to Jesus as a seventh grade heathen. I had been raised in church, but I did not even know how to pray. Others gave me Biblical prayers to say. I said the words from my heart, and they become my words and my prayer. Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth, and the Life of my salvation came into my spirit. I have been different ever since.

 

Reason Two why I see the Bible as trustworthy. The same Book tells me it is inspired.

 

I know this does not prove inspiration, but its own testimony gives me a framework to assure my faith.  I either believe that all Scripture is given by inspiration of God or the book does not stand.  I believe the Bible is trustworthy!

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (17) That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (2nd Timothy 3:16-17 KJV Bible)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2nd Peter 1:20-21 KJV Bible)

Reason Three why I see the Bible as trustworthy - The Bible is ONE Book; its unity is part of its majesty.

There are 66 books of the Bible which span over 1600 years and 40 generations. Yet the Bible reads as ONE book. There are 40 authors from differing walks of life. Examples include: Moses, political leader, educated, and a shepherd; Peter, a fisherman; Paul, a tent maker and a rabbi; Amos, a herdsman; Luke, a doctor; and others, as military leaders, prime ministers, cup bearers, tax collectors, kings, etc.. Yet the Bible message reads as ONE book. The Bible is written from different places (like deserts and wildernesses, prisons and dungeons, hillsides and islands). Yet the Bible speaks ONE central message (The MESSAGE of God’s divine love reaching to save mankind). The Bible is written from three continents (Asia, Africa and Europe) and in three languages (Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek), and it does not shy from the controversies of each generation. Yet the Bible is consistently ONE in harmony and continuity.

The Bible is the story of God’s love for us. In Genesis (first book of the Bible), God births us in paradise. Man’s sin cost us our birth right. In Revelations (last book of the Bible), God rebirths us in paradise regained! Rather than a menagerie of ideas the Book is a harmony of ‘agape’ love. This love story has the potential and power to save the deepest sinner!

Reason Four why I see the Bible as trustworthy – the prophesies of foretold events in the Bible move far beyond human speculation, and all the writers attributed their forecasts to God.

This is a very powerful reason to accept the Bible as reliable. There are far more prophesies in the Book than I dare try to relate in this hub.

Remember this, fix it in mind, take it to heart, you rebels. Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. From the east I summon a bird of prey; from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose. What I have said, that will I bring about; what I have planned, that will I do. (Isaiah 46:8-11 NIV Bible)

The Bible foretold the fall of Babylon (Isa 13:17-22), The fall of Egypt (Isaiah 19:1-4), The fall of Nineveh (Zephaniah 2:13-15), and the destruction of Jerusalem Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21).

 

Many prophecies were given concerning the birth, the life, the death, the burial, the resurrection, the ascension, the return and coming kingdom of Jesus Christ. ALL of the them have either been precisely fulfilled or are in wait to be fulfilled. I do not have space to go into that here, but I invite you to study them. However, note this one thing. All of these have stood the test, the criticism, the ridicule, the disbelief of thousands of years. The Bible is still standing.

 
 

The Last Reason I give why I believe the Bible is trustworthy – The Book is the birthing place of my faith, and my faith has it as my banner for living!

 

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. (Romans 10:17 Bible KJV)

Jesus "answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me. If anyone chooses to do God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own. (John 7:16-17 Bible NIV)

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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

Thank you for this fine exposition about the Inspiration behind the Bible. I believe it with my whole heart. Your Hub is very well thought out and written.


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

Thank you for theses kind comments. Of course all these reasons are not original with me. They have been preached and written about and used for years. However, maybe I have added some insight that might be helpful to someone.

God bless you!


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

I am falling more and more in love with Jesus because of His Word, realizing how it's all about FREEDOM from bondage! Love letters, like you said! 

The reason we seek God is because we feel we're missing something of joy, peace, love, hope.  And, indeed, while some can look at the judgments of God, the Lord opens people's eyes to His grace, love and deliverance from all oppression!  He truly saves us from everything, even death!

His Word never runs out of new "food"!  Whatever questions we have, the answers are there!  It's like He knew every single question we could ever ask, and those we haven't even thought of yet!  It's truly a treasure chest!

The words of Jesus ring true, when He said "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." in Matthew 4:4 and Luke 4:4.  I attest to that!  Amen!


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

Carrie,

Ditto! and God bless. Thanks for leaving comments!


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Melody Lagrimas 7 years ago from Philippines

"Reason evaluates what we see, faith responds by giving it meanig." What a wonderful analogy. I was born again when I was 13 and through the years, God has blessed me more than I could ever ask for. Trials have always been there but He has certainly made my faith stronger. Thanks for this beautiful hub, Pastor_Walt.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Amen about faith. God showed me that knowing the Word and believing it are critical when it comes to overcoming our adversary. One time I was in a spiritual warfare in a dream and while I quoted the Word, it had no power. God came to my rescue and asked me if I believed the Word. When I thought about it and really believed what I said to the enemy, he had to leave! Faith is the victory! Amen.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

"How can I trust The Bible?"

You can't, because it's full of errors, corruptions and the contaminations of blasphemous evil men - the men of the Christian Religion. Right from the end of the first century, if not before, the so called 'Church Fathers' out of Alexandria through Tertullian circa 200 AD and the mongrel dog Jerome 390 AD have tainted and poisoned the Holy Word of God. If we then add in all the other mongrel dogs at the Council of Nicea 325 AD there we have it - the sun worshipping (Sunday Sabbath) Cainite-Judeo-Christian religion.

If, after this, you think it's inspired then whatever inspiration there is will quickly fail you. Hence this is why so many mainstream Christians ask the question: "Can I trust the Bible?"

QED as they say in intellectual circles.

The Holy Word of God which can still be found, if we are like The Bereans and seek out The Truth within its pages, is discerned through the power of the Holy Spirit, nothing else. All reasoning is of men and their intellect; commonly known as theology or in Truth, vanity.


ClareBaros 7 years ago

Trustworthy indeed! So be it. I like the argument very much. Thank you.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Yes, we must look at the motive behind comments that say the Bible isn't to be trusted.  What are the results of saying the Bible IS trustworthy as the Word of God?  People get saved and walk in a beautiful understanding of our Lord, the testimony of thousands upon thousands. 

On the other hand, what is the result of saying the Bible is NOT trustworthy?  People don't get saved and walk in darkness with no understanding of our Lord.  It also makes them vulnerable to false teachers that claim to have this understanding of the corrupted scriptures.

One of the VERY reasons the Bible is trustworthy is because the many prophesies given for thousands of years in the Old Testament were fulfilled in the New Testament, more than any other source on earth!

One of these testimonies is rooted in the truth, and one the adversary (who claims to be truth).


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Would Ms Bradshaw care to enlighten us regarding Daniel's prophesy in chapter 2 which prophesies the Babylonian origins of her religion.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

yes2truth, as I told you before, we are exhorted not to engage in worthless arguments, for you only seek to argue, not seeking the truth.  I understand the antichrist alignment with the Pope, and I am not Catholic and I don't practice those things. Protestantism does not practice anything of the Catholic religion, and though they continue to worship on Sunday, I do not. The fact is, anyone who is not in Christ Jesus is of Babylon. You follow a false Christ; I am convinced because you go against the very Word of God and mock it!

I can tell you that Isaiah 14, Daniel 11, Matthew 24, 2 Thessalonians 2 and the prophesy of Revelation tell us there are people like you (aka false prophets, wolves in sheep's clothing) out there and what will be their fate.  The prophesy of the Bible to date is 100% truth, and I suggest you focus more on that than on trying to lead people astray.  May God be praised!


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Only brothers and sisters in The Lord are exhorted not to argue and you, not being my sister, but rather a 21st century Pharisee and a woman of religion, are just open season for challenging and rebuking.

Just as the Pharisees of the first century were to The Lord.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Your fate is what it is. You speak the truth that we are not brethren, though once again, you interpret the scriptures incorrectly. 1 Timothy 6:20 "O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called "knowledge "--

I am told not to give what is holy to dogs (Matthew 7:6). Rather than looking to CAUSE dissention, which is what hypocrites do, on a multitude of Christian hubs, you should stick with your own kind and "minister" falsely to them. They will eat it up gladly. I am not rebuked, but the Lord rebukes anyone who stands against Him (Jude 1:9).


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

yes2truth, I think it very interesting that you use a picture of the very Bible you say is so corrupt as your ministry icon.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Ms Bradshaw, religion is not Holy it's all of men and religion is what you represent.

I have no religion, I have only the Lord Jesus Christ and I boast only in Him.

You can only boast in your Popish trinity based religion, you have nothing else.

Of course I use The Bible, but the difference between you and I is the Holy Spirit dimension which you lack.

Your spirit is the spirit of religion - re-Legion and its the men of religion that have contaminated the Holy Word of God. The fact that you can find no wrong with The Holy Bible as it is only proves your spirit is the same spirit as that of the men who polluted God's Holy Word in the beginning. You are likeminded with them but not likeminded with me. Nor can you ever be until The Father removes the strong delusion He has sent upon you.


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

Well, I guess that debate can be useful. However, I stand by the message of this hub. It is through the Bible I found my relationship with Jesus Christ. I do not know all the answers, but I believe every word of the Bible as inspired By God.

May God use this hub article to edify someone today!\

Grace and Peace.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Pastor Walt,

The Father found you, you didn't find Him, whether it was through The Holy Scriptures or you riding your push bike down the road.

John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:65 (KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

yes2truth, you've read the truth in my hub addressing your misunderstanding of this scripture. It's called "Salvation: Unless God DRAG Us?" Check it out again, if you need to. If you receive the answers and you still want to believe the lie by which you are deceived, then that is your right. Convinces me that God gave you a choice, doesn't it?


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Dear Ms Bradshaw,

I only had a CHOICE (as did you) AFTER He had dragged me to His Son. There are no choices in being dragged and no choices until AFTER the event, NOT BEFORE. The CHOICE is then made AFTER we are called as to whether or not to follow the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE or Religion. You chose religion and it is you who believes in lies, not me.

The Truth sets us free and the Truth is the Lord Jesus Christ. Once we become disciples (learners) we are free to choose whether or not to follow Him or turn away to religion.

Pastor Walt says HE found Jesus. That is not possible as you have already confirmed - we are found by The Father and then dragged to His Son. He does the finding, not us.

I will repeat, for you, as are very slow to learn this very basic Truth: I follow The Lord Jesus Christ - The Truth, not religious mumbo jumbo and lies.

The trinity, Christmas, Easter and the Good Friday to Sunday morning lie, the rapture, revivals, 'saints' days etc. etc. etc.  


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

yes2truth, I only have one final thing to say to you on the hub. You misunderstood me. When I said I was convinced God gave you a choice, I wasn't referring to your salvation. I was referring to your choice to believe the truth or a lie. You are making assumptions about my salvation experience and my "religious" practices, but that's mute. People sought out Jesus in His day because word spread like wildfire. The Word says to seek Him and we will FIND Him. Jesus didn't go seeking out people, other than to choose his twelve. He sent out His twelve and when He did, people sought THEM to hear and receive the salvation through the message of Jesus Christ. Now, Pastor_Walt has allowed these comments here. I really feel you should be staying on your own hubs to have such dissentions, for the result is only stress for the new readers that seek to be blessed by the author's message that you refute. You are either seeking the truth, or are purposely arguing with the truth. God knows the motive of your heart and He is your Savior or your Judge. Amen.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Not another final thing Ms Bradshaw surely? When is final going to mean final?

I haven't misunderstood you any point in any of our numerous discourses. You are always in error and thereby very consistant and I might add persistant with your nonsense. I also know you are a woman of religion and not a woman of The Lord. As long as you persist in believing that you accepted Him rather than the Father calling you to Him, then you will remain in error.

In your comment you mention "seeking and finding". When The Lord said those words he was speaking only to His Learners (disciples) not to anyone else. Here again you display your lack of knowledge of The Truth.

The Father called the disciples to The Lord.

If you say that he didn't then you are calling the Lord a liar and I will print the same verses again for you.

John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 6:65 (KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

I praise God you find me consistent and persistent. Hallelujiah, for His Word is proven to be such!!


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Yes, of course, but alas always in error so unfortunately you don't know His Word.

You can also 'Amen' and 'Hallelujah' 'til the cows come home, but it will not make the slightest bit of difference. Delusion is delusion.

 


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Well, all I can say is, the Bible and it's true interpretation has been around thousands and thousands of years longer than your L. Ray Smith and his cohorts' distorted "contrary gospel", which we are told are accursed.

Galatians 1:8 "But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!" AMEN.


SirDent 7 years ago

Very good hub Pastor Walt. I recall reading that there were 25,000 copies of the New Testament written within 100 years of Christ's crucifixion. These copies were hand written which is even more rmarkable.

For those who see errors in the Bible, you need to have your eyes opened to the truth. It is easy to say that is is Babylon but much harder to show proof.

God does indeed call us to Salvation, but suppose I saw a woman I wanted to date and have a relationship with. Do I drag her as yes2 says God drags us? I say no, because that is rape. God has never taken away our freedom to choose. He merely only offers us the option to choose righteousness or wickedness.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Just so I wasn't misunderstood, the Word says "faith comes by hearing the Word of God". When the Word is preached, the Spirit draws the hearer and the hearer then either accepts the calling or rejects it. People are also drawn to hear the Word and go to where it is preached, as they did in the times of Jesus. We also, as His followers, preach the Word to others for this purpose. Praise God.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Perhaps SirDent needs to read the account of Saul's calling whereby he was made blind just to grab his attention or was it drag his attention out of him.

Was Saul looking for Jesus on the road to Damascus or was he looking forward to his next round of Christian prosecutions and executions!!??

Oh yes, of course, he chose Jesus and accepted Him as His saviour and then asked the Father to blind him to make it look good, how silly of me, I forgot!!  It must be all this wonderful mainstream Christian teaching overwhelming me!


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

yes2truth, You claim to be "saved", and yet you were not physically blinded were you? I know you are spiritually blinded, and the blind can't lead, except to lead the blind. Amen.


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

God found me, but I also found Him.

He gave, I believed(Word 'believeth' is used -Greek 'Pistis' means among other things 'to trust in') I found Him by simple trust in Him.He gave, I believed, He found, I received. Belief is a choice; simple enough.He found me -I found Him. He gave and I chose to receive by faith.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

I make no claims Ms Bradshaw I only tell The Truth and The Truth is preached and then either gladly received or rejected. Only people of religion like yourself claim things.

No I was not blinded. My being chosen and called was very different from Saul's but I was called just as he was.

Unlike yourself who accepted a Jesus as your saviour. By the way, with this acceptance did you spell out your terms and conditions?

Now let me see what terms and conditions did the clay spell out for the potter. I'll have to check that out in Holy Scriptures


SirDent 7 years ago

One thing you seem to miss yes2 is that Saul's heart was towards God. He thought he was doing the will of God when he persecuted followers of Christ. He was punishing them according to the law. I suppose that might be your job now). But even though he was blinded, he still made a decision.

According to what you preach you stated above that when you preach the truth it is either accepted or rejected. That in itself shows that it is a choice. You contradict your own self.

There are times when the clay is unusable and is cast down by the potter. There are also times that after the pottery is fired, it cracks and is unusable at all for anything and is tossed away.

The use of dramatics in your earlier post shows that you are merely someone who likes to troll and get a reaction from people. Sarcasm has no place in a discussion of this type and you have shown your true colors.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Pastor Walt,

The Father finds us. We do not find The Father nor do we find the Lord Jesus Christ. After The Father has called us to His Son we then get to know Him, but we do not find Him.

1 Sam 3:3-4 (KJV) And ere the lamp of God went out in the temple of the LORD, where the ark of God was, and Samuel was laid down to sleep; 4 That the LORD called Samuel: and he answered, Here am I.

This is a one way event apart from our response - Here am I.

We do no seeking, we do no looking, we do no finding. The Father does that. Even if we we begin to search the Holy Scriptures then we must acknowledge that it's The Father that has instigated that desire within us. We do nothing and the process of being saved is nothing to do with us.


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Sanctus Vesania 7 years ago

>>The use of dramatics in your earlier post shows that you are merely someone who likes to troll and get a reaction from people. Sarcasm has no place in a discussion of this type and you have shown your true colors.<<

Woah, woah, woah! This is the great thing about you fundies. Soon as anyone disagrees with you, you say something like, "You're trolling"; "You're being possessed"; "God loves me and hates you!"; etc etc etc.

You say Yes2truth doesn't have a right to be here; I assume because he's offending your delicate sensibilities. I don't know. What I do know is that it's up to the owner of this hub to decide. Not YOU and not anyone else.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

I miss nothing SirDent, Saul's heart was of the Devil and only the Devil. Pharisees were sons of the Devil as are all men of religion - including 21st century Pharisees.

Saul's decision came AFTER he was called, not before. The Truth sets us free and we are not of The Truth or free until we are called.

"According to what you preach you stated above that when you preach the truth it is either accepted or rejected. That in itself shows that it is a choice. You contradict your own self."

What I preach is what the Lord preached and I am certainly not contradicting myself. What I preach can only be received if The Father is calling that hearer to His Son. If He is not calling them they will reject what I say. They have no choice - period.

I will ignore the rest of your comment and treat it with the contempt it deserves. Your conceit and arrogance betrays you.


SirDent 7 years ago

Just for your sake Sanctus I'll show what was stated in the comment above by Yes2,

yes2truth says:27 minutes agoNow let me see what terms and conditions did the clay spell out for the potter. I'll have to check that out in Holy Scriptures

SirDent: Of course yes2 says the scriptures are wrong and contradictiory also. Dramatics like a teenage drama queen is what it is. Of course that ius his right to do and his choice to make even though he says we have no choice in the matter.

Take it as you will.


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Sanctus Vesania 7 years ago

I see no sarcasm there. What I see, is you saying that Saul had the choice to be saved by God. In fact he didn't; God blinded him, and got onto Saul for persecuting him. The clay didn't have a say in this manner. Deny it all you want, but it's evident that God planned (since before the Earth was made) to use Paul for his purpose.

I also never noticed y2t saying the scriptures are wrong and contradictiory.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Oh, here they come, Pastor_Walt (there's a handful that seek to destroy the truth of God and they click together). Sanctus, you obviously didn't read all of the comments above, and I quote yes2truth here:

"How can I trust The Bible?" You can't, because it's full of errors, corruptions and the contaminations of blasphemous evil men - the men of the Christian Religion."

Sanctus, respectfully, you are a fence-straddler, and I've seen you preach out of both sides of your mouth. If you study the Bible, you know that through preaching and hearing the Word, people are drawn to the Lord. They have a choice. You've given ears to this false doctrine he follows, and have been led astray, or rather, I'm not so sure you ever followed the truth in the first place. A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways, the Word says.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

SirDent

The Lord mocked the Pharisees of His day i.e. "The healthy have no need of the physician"

I mock the Pharisees of my day.

Incidently, on what terms did you base your acceptance of your Jesus?


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Ms Bradshaw,

Sanctus is closer to The Truth than you are and I thank him/her now for the relevant contributions to this thread.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

Pastor_Walt, through extensive experience with these cult followers, one for every day of the week (and where one goes, the others follow), whose dissention and strife does not cease as long as it is condoned and answered, we are not give what is holy to dogs, and also the words of Paul to us are from the Lord:

1 Timothy 6:20-21 "O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called 'knowledge'--which some have professed and thus gone astray from the faith. Grace be with you." Amen.


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Sanctus Vesania 7 years ago

Carrie - I am not a fence straddler. You need to get off this pedestal that anyone who disagrees with you is blind, stupid, or deluded. Now, I will speak no more to you, for no good can come of any idiotic debates.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

People who follow the Bible are united and agree, so while you say "my opionions", once again, you err. Praise God, and I pray these attacks against the brethren will cease, in Jesus' Name. Amen.


SirDent 7 years ago

A quick question for yes2 and Sanctus. If we are of satan as you say why do you continue to converse with us? We have rejected what you state and that is our choice. But you stay trying to change our minds to match that of yours. What's the point in it all?

I have made this statement before. If you are called to preach the Gospel then preach the gospel. Each minute you waste here with us means another minute of not preaching the gospel.


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

I am not preaching the Gospel for your benefit SirDent, for you are deluded by God Himself so there is nothing I can do to change you or Ms Bradshaw. Only The Father can remove the scales from your eyes, not me.

Here again your conceit and vanity betrays you, and the fact that you see yourself as an English Knight of the Realm only adds to the proof that you are full of yourself and not full of the Holy Spirit.

I preach the Gospel here on HubPages for the benefit of others - the few who are chosen, not the many who were called but turned away to their religion and are now on the wide path to destruction - spiritual ruin.

All mankind is of Satan, for it is his world - his age - he rules it. If you think not then you are deceived as well as deluded. This means man does Satan's will, not his own will. Man does not have a will of his own so he cannot make choices. Whatever he does or 'chooses' to do he is still doing Satan's will. Man cannot escape the Devil's will he is a slave - a slave to sin and sin is the Devil's will.

The only way out of this slavery and imprisonment is The Father and His calling us to His Son the Lord Jesus Christ and man has no say in this event either. This is why it is called redemption. I also proved this from Saul's experience on the road to Damascus. I proved it in Samuel's case and I will add in Jeremiah who was predestined by God to be Jeremiah the Prophet. He had no choice, he was called and chosen before he was born to be Jeremiah the Prophet. He was a part of Godhead's plan.

Now some of us, like Jeremiah, are called and chosen, others are just called, but either way once we are called we can now choose - we now have freewill or freedom to choose. We can now choose whether or not to follow the Lord Jesus Christ or religion and we know what you and Ms Bradshaw have chosen, don't we, for it is very plain for all to see?


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

I certainly HOPE SO!  I'm glad there's enough evidence to arrest me for being a born-again, Spirit-baptized, follower of Christ who loves (agape) her Lord with all her heart, soul, mind, body and strength!  I've loved you as God so loved the world (agapao) enough to share the truth with you, which is my moral obligation, and I genuinely love (agape/philadelphia) the brethren in the Lord, for we are one in the Spirit, Praise God!


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yes2truth 7 years ago from England

Your hope in is vain!

The only evidence Ms Bradshaw is that of your religious qualifications and thereby your spiritual ruin. You have made your choice but that only occurred after you were called.

John 6:65-66 (KJV) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

Notice how these disciples turned away from Him after He said what I am saying. You are the same Ms Bradshaw whether you like it or not. No man can come to The Lord unless the Father calls them. No choices - He calls - we answer - Here am I.


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

I appreciate the debate, but I believe the latest thread of discussion is moving far from the intended message of this hub. I may deny some of the comments that move the discussion away from my intended message.

I appreciate the visits and am honored by your participations. However, I am here to lift up Christ and His Word. God found me - It is settled! I found Christ - it is settled. I am part of Him, and He is in me - It is settled. For me to live is Christ -it is settled. For me to die is heavenly gain -it is settled. God said it - that settles it.

My message here is simple. God's Word is true - through it I find Jesus Christ. It is the compass that guides to me to Him. I endeavor love Him with all my heart, soul, mind and strength. I endeavor to love my neighbor as myself. This is the greatest commandment and the best I can do!


opinion duck 7 years ago

Pastor Walt

The bibles were written by men, for men and without divine knowledge or participation.

If the Old Testament, was a divine document, then why did it need augmentation or replacement by the New Testament?

There are no true prophecies in the Bible or any other documents.

Quoting from a document cannot give credability to an argument using circular reasoning. You can't validate a document by quoting from it.

The Old Testament doesn't mention Jesus or the Holy Ghost?

There is no real information on the Devil, Satan or his disciples?

We are told only that Satan took a third of the Angels with him, when he left God. A third is not a number and we only know of three or four Angels named in the Bible. And only Satan as a fallen Angel.

Genesis is an ambiguous starting point for the Bible. It describes nothing that men of the time of the writing, already knew about the Earth. In fact, they didn't even know that the Earth was round.

All the Biblical references centered on Men and women including Eve were an after thought. Eve wasn't created as much as she was cloned.

God was at least present in the Old Testament but pretty much disgarded in the New Testament. There were no females in the divinity, God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost, all of the angels and Satan are masculine.

This coincides with mankind, where men were only important and females only window dressing. Even the phrase in the beginning of our country was tht "All MEN were created equal". It is not clear that men were meant to be human kind.

Religion and its source of many bibles is the biggest reason for wars and killings in the world today.

The bible cannot be self authenticated.


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needs_a_break 7 years ago

i just graduated from a christian private school and i had a specific class that taught us about the bible, and how to talk with ppl who don't know the bible, and to be able to explain the bible to them, and i enjoyed this article Pastor walt but i was embarrassed by yes2truth and carrie bradshaw and their argument... how it got soooo off based and how they decided to argue the different points of the bible, maybe you both come from different churches that taught different things... but i think its because of actions like this argument that ppl who don't believe arn't willing to learn more..... was it really that important which one of you was right? or was that just your egos and pride? ....... please don't deny this pastor walt. and great words of wisdom in that article


skeptic 7 years ago

Isn't reason two kind of redundant. (The book is trustworthy because it says it is)?


SirDent 7 years ago

I apologize for my part in the debate here Walt.


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

SirDent,

I didn't mind the debate - it was just getting too far from my purpose in the hub. I believe God gives me a message, and I want that to be communicated. Your hubs bless me and so do your comments.

Grace and peace forever.


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Carrie Bradshaw 7 years ago from Manhattan

needs_a_break, while I know it's not my responsiblity for what is written on other people's hubs, yes2truth follows a doctrine contrary to Pastor_Walt, SirDent and myself. What he posts may very well mislead people not only away from the truth of this hub, but from the Bible altogether. My motive was pure, not of pride or mere arguments. If it caused you offense, I ask your forgiveness, and also of Pastor_Walt.


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

Thanks to Carrie and Sirdent. I do not agree with yes2, but, within reason, debate can be good. The Word of God has stood for thousands of years. It has been criticised, abused, slandered, burned, discounted - BUT it still stands. It does not need me to defend it, only to proclaim it. Faith comes by hearing - hearing by the word.

My hub just gives you some of the reasons I believe it is inspired. If any reader chooses not to believe my words, so be it. I settled this in my heart long ago!

Psalm (KJV) 119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.


\Brenda Scully 7 years ago

I am not a born again christian but I do love the bible, and believe it is inspired of god..... I never tire reading it and love to hear other peoples enthusiasm about this age old book...... nice hub


ClareBaros 7 years ago

My personal experience of a trustworthy Bible (your reason 4) was in seeing History written before it happened. Like when I heard of a Savior that was in Church, and in the Bible I read about that Savior all the prophets did search. It was a quiet moment of euphoria for sure and for my brokenness a real cure. Thanks for letting me read this.


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jesusmyjoy 7 years ago from Bucyrus Ohio

wonderful work


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Pastor_Walt 7 years ago from Jefferson City, Tennessee Author

Thanks myjoy


LastLegend 6 years ago

The Bible should be the only that anyone should trust. It is a giant diary of recorded events that happend in those times written by many. Remember religion is man made, and today it has become a source for wars and used as a control

mechanisim.Religions now adays has so many diffrent belifs that some just make up their own. Use the bible as the main source for all that is to come.


LastLegend 6 years ago

The Bible should be the only thing you should trust. Remember that religion is man made and it is used to fuel wars and control those who the religion deems necessary.

The Bible is a giant diary of recorded events that took place in those times written by many people. Today there are so many false religons that is messes everyone up and gets confusing. The bible holds all that is true.


Ken 5 years ago

I wonder why some men had to meet at council of nicea and decide on what would constitute the bible i.e which books to form the old t and new testament.They said they were inspired and led by the holy spirit and because of that they canonized more than 70 books of the bible (what is this word canonize and who told them christians need the 'canonized' scriptures) followers of jesus ask yourselves this.Later other 'inspired men' met and decided 66 books were true and fit to be the true word of God.I wonder,did God make them perfect at that moment to make no mistake or did they have vested interests when taking the decisions or when translating to different tongues and could have committed errors.The majority of judaists take the creation story of genesis as 'midrash' i.e a teaching story not a literal story and thus nobody has to be saved from anything coz the so called 'original sin' doesn't exist. please take into consideration that christianity is an of-shoot of judaism and paul said salvation came from the jews and also the holy scriptures.i would take it that the original religion in this case judaism is more credible than the generic one or the of-shoot (christianity) seeing that God never changes.Now between judaism and christianity he (god) has changed,who is telling the truth here and who is disillusioned and teaching errors.The bible may cöntain some truth but i highly doubt that it's perfect.what can we say about the failed prophecy concerning the city of tyre in the book of ezekiel,he said tyre would be destroyed utterly never to stand or be built again,but the town of tyre for sure does exist and has always existed. it's the 4th largest city in the country of jordan and also known by it's ancient and original name,tyre.it never changed.

In luke 23:43 this word 'paradise' does it have it's equivalent in the jewish language? the word comes from old persian language meaning a park or walled or enclosed space.how did a persian word become part of jewish heritage or their understanding of scriptures coz i want to believe that jesus was totally jewish,am still wondering and thinking about that.

Thanks pastor for sharing your thoughts.


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Mikio 5 years ago

Pastor, your hub is a personal confession, i.e., a summary of your faith. Your reference points are all 'within' the church tradition. The challenge, however, is to share your conviction/beliefs with folks outside the church. That, I must say, is 100x more difficult. To be honest, I was very disappointed in your hub not only because you simply quoted biblical passages (something anyone can do) but also because your argument was circular (I believe that the bible is true because I know it's true.). I do hope that you'll be able to write a hub that would make your faith more understandable to folks who are outside the church. I felt that your hub was written only for those who are already inside the church. Thus, I dare say that it was boring.


Bob 4 years ago

Where is L. Ray Smith?

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