Jesus Is True

Truths outside of the bible.

There are many people who are not aware of the writings about Jesus and his strong effect on Christians who love him, that are not in the bible. There are many writings about Jesus that were written by Romans, Pagans and other people as early as 61 AD. I am only going to mention a one, because I have written a lot in a comments on another hub.

This one is about the death of Pontius Pilate. When the Emperor Tiberius Caesar was ill, he had heard of Jesus by name, who had cured illness by a simple word. He ordered a servant to go to Pilate and send that physician to him. When Pilate heard of this, he was afraid. because Christ had been crucified. Then Pilate committed suicide, by stabbing himself in the heart. This was translated by Alexander Walker from Ante-Nicenfathers, vol. 8

What is incredible is what has been found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Dead Sea Scrolls were found in 1947. When the scrolls were found they contained texts of bothbiblical and secular manuscripts that dated back to before the destruction of Second Temple of Jerusalem and the death of Jesus Christ. The most incredible discovery for me, however, was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls writing of the Essens. The Essens wrote about Jesus of Nazareth. The Christian Historian Euebius, who wrote about 301 AD, believed the Essens were influenced by Christianity. There is an amazing text in the Dead Sea Scrolls that mentions the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. This is called " The Crucified Messiah Scroll"

In 1991 the world was amazed to learn that there is a reference to a Messiah who suffered for the sins of man was in the scrolls. This scroll was translated by Dr. Robert Eisenman, Professor of Middle East Religions of California State University. He declared " The text is of of the most far-reaching significance for those writings. For these writings are operating in the same general Messianic Framework of early Christianity".

There is a five lined scroll containing incredible information close to what the Prophet Isaiah said about his Messianic Prophecy, in which he told his people that the Messiah would suffer for the sins of his people. This scroll provides that same revelation, except it says that the Messiah would suffer before death, then ultimately return to earth to rule the nations. This scroll also identified the Messiah as The Branch Of David and wrote that he was pierced and wounded. One more thing mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls is that the Messiah would be called The Son of God, The Most High.

There are more stories that are not in the bible because they were not allowed to be put into the bible. About 150 years after the birth of Jesus, a man named Marcian felt that a Christian Bible was needed for the Christians. After Constantine The Great converted to Christianity in the 4thCentury, it was decided to put together a bible that included both Hebrew ( Old Testament ) and Christian ( New Testament) writings. About 40 years later, a list of New Testament books were canonized by the church. Most of the popular stories were left out of the bible.

Here are just a few of the stories that were left out of the bible.

The Infancy Gospel of Thomas: The book only describes Jesus as a child. It tells us that at the age of 5 Jesus may have pushed another young boy off the roof of a house and thus killed the young boy. But, then Jesus resurrected the other little boy.

The Gospel of Mary: This text describes Mary Magdalen may have been a leading apostle not a prostitute. It is interesting why this is left out of the bible. Was it left out of the bible because men felt they were superior to women?

The Gospel of Nicodemus: This is the story of Jesus' trial and crucifixion and descent into hell. According to this gospel, Jesus had power over saten and frees Adam, Isaiah and Abraham from hell.

These are only a few of the writing that were banned from the bible, there are any more? As I wrote in another hub, there are many things hidden in the Vatican. Are there any writings banned from the bible in there?




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Man from Modesto 4 years ago from Kiev, Ukraine (formerly Modesto, California)

Interesting hub. We have to beware of certain recent "archeological" finds. Ex-satanists have been warning for several years that there are plans to produce fake documents which will call into question the divinity of the Messiah.

One of their long-term goals has been to convince people that angels and demons are just travelers from other planets and that religion is just the poor, misunderstood explanation of superstitious undeveloped beings without scientific knowledge. Embedding that idea was the point of Star Trek. Virtually every episode had that theme.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

And the history channel has been having this show about ufos and their history in our world's developement. Thank you for your comment.


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noturningback 4 years ago from Edgewater, MD. USA

I would love to know where I might be able to read more about the un-canonized books on Jesus,in particular those-if any- that may allude to his teen years.

On a seperate note I liked Star Trek, I believe it strengthened my faith to believe in what I could not always see or feel even and to me it only shows that there are more life forms out in space created by our LORD.

Very nice hub ?


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Here is one that I found

•The St. Issa Scroll is another text. The scroll, found in a Buddhist monastery in Hemis, records the travels of a Jewish boy to the East, a fact that some historians, such as Nicholas Notorich believe explains the absence of documentation regarding Jesus' life in the Gospels between the ages of 12 and 30. Supporters of this theory who believe also point to the fact that the parables attributed to Jesus in the Gospels, such as the parable of the Sower, were attributed to Yus Asaph.


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Drtruthman 4 years ago from Harlingen, Texas

Very good Michele. As a theologian I am impressed. One of the great problems the church has today however, is the failure of the church as a whole being open to either the study or use of "para-biblical" material such as you describe.The Apocrypha and Pseudo-pygrapha to mention a few. I do believe as believers it is important to "think outside of the proverbial theological box". The gospel of Thomas is one of my favorite Pseodo-pygrahal text. My favorite story is where Jesus and his cousins (of which most later become His disciples)are down on the shore of the Sea of Galilee making clay animals. Jesus supposedly makes a clay dove, breathes on it and it flies away. I do actually enjoy the History Channel's Ancient Alian series. I write articles about this whole phenomenon over on my Wizzley Page sight as I discuss Ufology vs Theology. We do have many problems as believers if we deny what the Bible refers to as "the Ancient of Days" and the Nepheliem. Great article. I voted UP, interesting and awesome. Good job.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you for your comment, I think we agree on a lot of things, and that is a very good thing.


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Drtruthman 4 years ago from Harlingen, Texas

Thank you Michele, you are such a blessing. I am so delighted to have found a Christian with epilepsy that I can relate to and I do love your writing. One of my problems is my Depakote hinders my concentration and as such often effects my writing. Keep me in your prayers as you are in mine. I do maintain a Prayer Page both on Face Book and Google+. Also, what is the FaceBook sight you referred to in your other article? Thanks for responding.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

There is a place in facebook called hubpages, all you need to do is hit the share button at the end of your hub and you will go there and you sign up for it. It helps. I have not gotten a lot of responces from it, but a few is better then none Hop this helps you.


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Deborah Brooks 4 years ago from Brownsville,TX

Very interesting..thank you dr. Truthman for directing me to this site. I voted up..debbie


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you for comment on my hub. I am also going to thank Dr. Truthman. Jesus is true and wonderful. He did give us truth and forgiveness for our sins. I can go on and on. But, I love him. I just wish more did.

God bless you.


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Deborah Brooks 4 years ago from Brownsville,TX

Well it is good to meet a fellow christian.....Jesus is the truth and the way....I love him to....debbie


Susan Joyner-Stumpf 4 years ago

I learn so much from your Hubs, Dr. Lee. I find that all so interesting...how the Scriptures and the Bible language came into being. Surely, as I've always been afraid of, was how much was truly accurate, because transcription and memory in those days......did they record/translate it in such a way that would make them more comfortable, compromising the original concepts, and yes, women back then, as in some third-world countries today, were not revered so were words mixed around?

I watch Ancient Aliens (I love Ufology and Paranormal, totally fascinated). So, their placement in Biblical times is crucial to investigate and not ignore.

I found it interesting your report that "About 150 years after the birth of Jesus, a man named Marcian..." It didn't escape me, the man's name, Marcian. Hummmm, biblical aliens at the time.....Martians....hummmm...gets one to thinking...pondering.....


Susan Joyner-Stumpf 4 years ago

Michele, I do apologize. Dr Lee (our mutual friend) sent me over here....of course, this is YOUR HUB, not Dr. Lee's. I knew that when I commented above, I'm sorry. You're article was totally interesting and fascinating, as Dr Lee holds discussions on this as well and I guess I was rememebering one of his Articles. Please accept my apology for mindlessly forgetting your credit here.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

No that was not a problem at all. Dr. Lee and I agree. There is still a lot more we need to know. And thank you for your comment.


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teaches12345 4 years ago

I saw an interesting documentary on the lost sea scrolls on history channel and youtube that included a bit about Jesus. It was fascinating and educational. You mention some books that were left out of the Bible that I have not heard of before. I have read the book of Enoch recently and find the battle between good and evil inspirational to say the least. Interesting hub!


soa 4 years ago

Prior to Constatine becoming the Roman Emperor. Christians were already in broad agreement as to what books they regarded as inspired. Early Church Fathers quoted from them and if you lost the entire early books and just used quotations from the writings of Early Church Fathers, you'lll be able to reproduce an astonishing amount of the New Testament.

Some of the works you reference and say were "not allowed to be put into the bible"; it is not because some shadowy men start at state-sponsored conference and decided they would be bad for Christianity's image and message-these books were generally accepted by Christians of the day as rubbish elaborate myths.

Have you read some of them and compared them to the 4 gospels and see how very different they are? How the gospels are calm and do not make preposterous statements and insult our intelligence?

Mary Magdalene- as you know or probably should, women were disregarded as witness in that period of history. In fact, testicle comes from the Latin testis which means to testify. These chaps would have been very silly to have allowed the gospels which show the male apostles were cowards and the women brave at the resurrection; to use gospels whose 1st witness were people who could not be called on to testify in court which must have been shameful; and then ban a gospel whose main character is the first person to have seen Jesus according to one of the gospels.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

@soa, that may not be true. At that point in time, only a few people knew Latin. The priests only taught in Latin, so they could have taught the people anything they wished to teach them. Also, nobody was allowed to have a bible for many years. Your probably know the history of the bible. However, at that point in time, Constantine was not writing the bible. In fact he never even tried to write anything in the bible ( yes or no) Why did he try to convert pagans? Also, another question you know the answer to, how many books are banned from the bible? I would love to know the answers.

Thanks!


soa 4 years ago

@Michele

Thanks for responding.

I think you're confusing the Middle Ages with the Roman Empire.

People spoke Greek, Aramaic, Syriac and other languages. The Bible, or more accurately the collection of books/letters believed to have been divinely inspired, was translated into different languages by different people, not controlled by some priests.

In the Middle Ages things were different with the Bible being in Latin but at this point in history the Bible was in a variety of languages, with multiple copies.

I agree with you that Constantine did not write the Bible. He never tried to write the Bible.

About converting pagans, I would like you to please clarify what exactly you mean by this. Like I said on another of your posts, i think that is factually incorrect. Pagans had been converting to Christianity for hundreds of years before Constantine. There are two ways of looking at it (i) Constantine was a savvy political operator who recognised the church was very important in the Roman Empire of his day and gave it official government backing.

(ii) Constantine genuinely believed, and as a Christian in a position of power, did his best to further the spread of the gospel.

About books in the Bible: Like I tried to explain earlier, it was ordinary Christians of the day who decided what was real for them or vice versa. The gospels and most of the new testament were universally acknowledged, not rubber stamped by some committee of men afraid/feeling superior to women, as scriptural. When people were not sure about things, there was open discussion about it. The "new gospels" date from much later, usu 2nd century AD and have a smack of runaway myths/imaginations. They are the kind of things you expect when myths are handed down from generation to generation and grow larger in their telling.

The point is the early church had generally accepted what was Scriptural.And to answer your question, I don't know how many books the early Church felt were heretical/fabrications.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you for discussing this with me, I appreciate it very much. Some call a person stupid when they make mistakes. You have given me a lot to think about. So, there is a lot more I need to read and research, not that I mind. I do want to learn more. Thank you ( again)


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Seek-n-Find 4 years ago from Illinois

Interesting read! I like when one of the authors of the Bible said that even if all that Jesus did was written down, there would not be enough books in the world that could contain all He did. The Scriptures reveal the basics and the foundations that we need to start--but God is not contained within the Scriptures! That's why Jesus said He would send the Helper that would teach us the truth about God. So an openness to the "more" of God is needed. Having said that, however, it is also true that there are people, texts, ideas, and stories out there that have their origins in men and not God. Anything that calls into question the total goodness of God deserves a critical eye. I don't believe the story about Jesus pushing a boy off a roof and resurrecting him because it does, indeed, contradict Scripture. Jesus did not do miracles(at least in a public sense) until he began his official ministry. Even His first, recorded miracle (turning water into wine) He said to His mom, "What do you have to do with this--it is not yet my time." Jesus had to follow a very specific timeframe so that all of the prophecies would be fulfilled and all would happen in God's right order and timing. Also, Jesus pushing a boy from a building would reveal His character to be other than what it is revealed to be throughout the Scripture. I think Jesus was/is so popular, that other cultures/religions/etc will have their own adapted stories that are perhaps based off of something real, but not accurate in the end. So openness and caution must work side-by-side. Putting God in a box is just as dangerous as making Him to be someone He is not. Like Scripture says--we must not add OR take away from what God reveals. Oh, humans are good at that. :-) Thanks for an interesting read--I liked learning the history of Pilate.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you seek-n-find for your comment, it is wonderful. It can be a hub in itself.


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girishpuri 4 years ago from NCR , INDIA

Go to the Jesus !!

He is the way,

Truth of life.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

girishpuri God Bless you!


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girishpuri 4 years ago from NCR , INDIA

Are you alright, Michele ?


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Yes, Thank you, I am doing much better. Much better now. I need to see my neurologist. I am going to be ok. Thank you and God Bless you.


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John Sarkis 4 years ago from Los Angeles, CA

Great hub Michelle. Additionally, I'm glad you're okay---God Bless!

Voted up and away

John


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Thank you John, I appreciate that very much.

God Bless you.


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Raitu Disong 4 years ago

Yes Jesus is the Truth!...

Jesus loves you

God bless you all..


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Raitu Disong

God Bless you also

Michele


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Mark.Issa 4 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Hi Michelle,

I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with almost everything you said in this article. While it is true that there are dozens of non-canonical gospels and books about Christ, it is not true that there has ever been a conspiracy or that the church refined the Bible and canonized it in the 4th century. The church simply accepted only the gospels that were handed to it by the apostles. The first list of the canonical gospels was given by Irenaeus the bishop of Gaul in the 2nd century in his book “Against Heresies”. He asserted that only Matthew, Mark, Luke & John are canonical and he was not presenting this list as some sort of innovation but rather as something already accepted by the church. It is true however that up until the 4th century some churches still couldn’t tell canonical from non-canonical gospels and Athanasius, the bishop of Alexandria in the 4th century, ordered all the churches under his authority to stop using non-canonical gospels.

Also if you go through the writings of church fathers you’ll find that not a single one of them made a single quotation from these non-canonical gospels which cannot be a coincidence. The writings of Ante-Nicene Fathers (including Irenaeus’s) are all available on the internet and you can have them on e-Sword bible application. As a matter of fact they also contain the full texts of the non-canonical gospels you mentioned.

The reason the church never accepted these books is that:

a)None of them was written with apostolic authority.

b)most of them were Gnostic.

So the bottom-line is there is no conspiracy, or refining or hidden books. It’s simply an old issue that the church closed in the 2nd century.

Have a blessed day in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Mark


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Mark, I did not write about the books you are mentioning I mostly wrote about.

The Dead Sea Scrolls

The Infancy Gospel of Thomas

The Gospel of Mary

The Gospel of Nicodemus

I re- read my hub twice and did not find the word conspiracy.

So, why did you think that was what my hub was about?


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Mark.Issa 4 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Hi Michele,

The reason I mentioned the word conspiracy is that your article suggests that these gospels should’ve been included in the Bible but for some mysterious reason (or sexist as in the case of the Gospel of Mary) they weren’t. This is not true. The canonical gospels tell us that out of the people that followed Christ to the cross only one was a man (John) and all the rest were women. Almost all His male disciples got scared and ran away. Also all of those who went to Jesus' tomb early on resurrection day were women. Even though what they were doing wasn't reasonable because they knew a huge stone had been placed on the tomb and that they couldn've rolled it away by themselves. And yet they loved the Lord so much that they overlooked reason while all the male disciples were hiding in the upper room for fear of the Jews. So if the early church were sexist they would've removed these accounts from the gospels.

Also you said that these gospels were banned from the Bible. These books couldn't have been banned from the Bible because they were never part of the Bible and the church never accepted them as canonical. So for example we cannot say that the Quran is banned from the Bible because no one ever suggested that it should be part of the Bible.

Also I really don't think anything is "hidden" in the Vatican archives. There may be many things stored there because they cannot all be on display for practical reasons but nothing is "hidden".

I apologize if I was a bit sharp.

Have a blessed day in our Lord Jesus Christ,

Mark


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

I understand, I accept your this. Thank you for your comment. I wrote in another hub that the bible was true because women were the first to find the tomb that the stone had been removed, and since the this was in the bible it had to be true because the books in the bible were written by men.

A lot of my hubs are questions. I did not say they should have been banned from the bible.

This is what I wrote.

These are only a few of the writing that were banned from the bible, are many more? As I wrote in another hub, there are many things hidden in the Vatican. Are there any writings banned from the bible in there?

Please note the question marks I put in my hubs.

God bless you.


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Michele Travis 4 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio Author

Made a mistake in my last post, I sometimes I will copy and past.

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