"Lone Rangers" are Part of the Body of Christ

For those who have left the corrupt denominational institutional 501c3 business called “church” will often hear the retorts from the pew-warmer that we are commanded to fellowship with a group of "believers." They will quote Hebrews 10:25 and call you a “lone ranger” because you do not attend man-named denominational buildings they call “church” conforming to their templates to attain “God.”

They will say, “You should not forsake joining and participating in a local “church” whose pastor(s) still teach the “truth.” “Christians” in the first century (and beyond) belonged to local assemblies; by trying to go it alone, you are disobeying the New Testament."

“Disobedience,” or Ignorance in Indoctrination

Yeah, the “sacred cow” text they love to quote.

Unfortunately, the indoctrinated pew-warmer does not know any better as they simply parrot whatever their hirelings tells them.

Here is Hebrews 10:24-25 in context.

"And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to MEET TOGETHER (episunagōgē), as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near."

What you may find interesting is that episunagōgē means the above synagogue, the higher meeting, the highest assembly, and the higher-than-all-gatherings!

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our BEING GATHERED (episunagōgē ) together to him - 1 Thessalonians 2:1

Both Scripture verses have absolutely nothing to with people attending man-named buildings under a denominational template worshipping God in the traditions of man led by those on a pay roll.

Episunagōgē can only be referenced in these two places in all of Scripture.

The purpose of followers of Jesus Christ is to encourage one another in anticipation of the great gathering (the great Day) when Jesus Christ returns, not assembling into (501c3) man-made buildings and sitting passively in pews as “good” indoctrinated members should do.

As the pew-warmer ignorantly points the finger, you can be rest assured that they don’t know what they are talking about. They have not weighed and tested what they believe with a deeper study, and the salaried “pastor” wouldn’t even dare touch this.

The “Loneliness” of Leaving the Harlot “Church” System

There are issues “called out” (ekklesia) people will face when they have made the decision to leave the false “church” system. Some of the withdrawal symptoms are feelings of loneliness and isolation from the “fellowship” they once had. Their “connection” with the religious social club has been broken, and because of this, the denominational member quotes Hebrews 10:25 to them. The effects of listening to them are thoughts like, “Maybe I do need to find a place where I can meet regularly with others.” “I feel lonely and isolated, this cannot be a good thing.”

Unfortunately, many concede to their carnal feelings and walk right back in through the harlot “church's” doors.

Seeds of Doubt

We can be assured by the testament of Jesus Christ and the Apostles that the modern harlot “church” system is spiritual adultery. It is the counterfeit of the body of Christ. A reading of the New Testament and the warnings laid forth will prove this.

What gets a little more complicated are taking captive thoughts such as, "I am out of God’s will because I am experiencing guilt and condemnation." These thoughts are normal during the process of no longer participating in, and abandoning man’s religious driven system. Satan will use these carnal thoughts to keep those in bondage to his counterfeit religion by sowing seeds of doubt in those who have left.

There is much frustration that comes from people who try do things on their own strength. They will try to find a body of believers who are outside the system, or not influenced by the "church" system. The futility of “Google” searches will often be void of advertising their existence. The irony is that the true disciples of Jesus Christ do not use the marketing and advertising devices of the world to make themselves known. It is the religious hypocrites who market their own religious name brands to the world and love to show off what they do for all to see.

It says in Scripture that Jesus Christ is the one who is building his ekklesia (not "church"); therefore, the ideology of the man-driven “church” system fails on this premise because they have denied the working of the Holy Spirit by creating their own divisive denominational agendas.

The vain search to physically find a “church” through our own efforts will lead to even more frustration. This is the outworking of the fear of being isolated, believing that you are “out of God’s will” and missing out on the current and latest “religious obligations” of being part of “meetings.” Satan loves to compound fear; don’t believe the “father of lies.”

One of the hardest things to break free from, and the heaviest baggage that most everyone brings with them when coming out of spiritual Babylon (the “church” system) are carrying the weight of all the man-made obligations that have been indoctrinated into them. The man-driven system has choked out the life giving leading of the Holy Spirit for the burden of supporting the lordship of religious hirelings to guide their path down the wide road they call “Christianity.”


The Lone Ranger

There is a famous fictional western character called the Lone Ranger who had a “Helper” called “Tonto.” Many don’t know that "Tonto" in Spanish means “moron,” or “fool.” The Lone Ranger had a friend who was his “sidekick” who was given a derogatory name.

In similar fashion, this is how the typical pew-warmer and their pied pipers deem those they call “lone rangers.” They fail to understand that the Lone Ranger had great abilities who was trained to be an expert marksman and hand-to-hand combatant. He also was not absolutely alone. The fact is, he had a “Helper” who had saved him from an ambush. Tonto called him “ke-mo sah-bee,” which meant “faithful friend,” or “trusty scout.”

Through the physical eyes of the indoctrinated, a “lone ranger” is considered an outcast who has isolated himself from the security of man-made traditions. His “Helper” has been given an offensive prejudiced derogatory name, but he was actually a faithful friend who looks out for him.

Fear not, for I AM WITH YOU; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand. Behold, all who are incensed against you shall be put to shame and confounded; those who strive against you shall be as nothing and shall perish.

YOU SHALL SEEK THOSE WHO CONTEND WITH YOU, but you shall not find them; those who war against you shall be as nothing at all. For I, the LORD your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “FEAR NOT, I am the one who HELPS you.” – Isaiah 41:10-13

"She's a loner." "She stopped attending "church." "Pastor" says she's disobedient and outside of his protection." "Without us, she won't be able to make it on her own."
"She's a loner." "She stopped attending "church." "Pastor" says she's disobedient and outside of his protection." "Without us, she won't be able to make it on her own."

I hope you may be getting a clearer picture. The “lone ranger” is not liked by the institutional “church” members who are led by their own posse of hirelings who love to ambush the “loner” with their twisted doctrines. They do not understand that the “lone ranger” is not alone, but has a “Helper,” the Holy Spirit. By having a relationship with the Father through the “Helper,” the Holy Spirit trains the “lone ranger” to become great warrior for the Kingdom.

The institutional pew-warming “church” member does not see it that way. The “lone rangers” are the betrayers of man’s religious agendas by following the guidance of their “Helper,” the Holy Spirit. To the “church” member this is simply “foolish” and moronic.”

A “Lone Ranger” has been trained as a skilful warrior who is a marksman in the truth of God’s Word. They have been “called out” of the worldly system to be a light allowing the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truth. Jesus Christ is his Head and a “faithful friend.”

"Worship"
"Worship"
......then the "Word"
......then the "Word"
"....don't forget to cash out."
"....don't forget to cash out."

The indoctrinated do not like the biblical Jesus, but prefer a “Jesus” of their own making that they have created in their vain imaginations. The Way of the true Jesus Christ is considered foolish to those who are perishing in their religious four-walled worlds.

Being called a “Lone Ranger” is meant to be an insult and instil fear. This is a tactic of Satan to deter those from the most important part of our walk with Jesus Christ. It is where we allow the Holy Spirit to train us in the gifts that we have been given. The training isn’t easy like “Churchianity” where you are spoon fed pabulum from the “pastor” and then suckle a pacifier while being entertained. To the contrary, we learn how to put on and wear the armour of God, and practice using the sword of Truth and learn to recognize the One true Shepherd’s voice.



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Clery with the laity, the puppeteers with the puppets

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When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I BECAME A MAN, I GAVE UP CHILDISH WAYS. - 1 Corinthians 13:11

The Wilderness is a Good Thing

The process of maturing in Jesus Christ is a process of shedding our carnal nature. It is about being released from the influence of those who are in carnal captivity of the modern “church” system. There is no double-mindedness under the authority of Jesus Christ. He is the one who guides; He is the one who leads the way.

The false perception of greater numbers in a “church” building reveals the greater number of those who have voluntarily entered into the shackles of the religious institutional “church” system that puts man as the “Head,” rather than Jesus Christ. They do not become disciples of Jesus Christ, but rather become certified members of a denomination.

When we come to understand that the concept of “church” is a lie, we will no longer have anything to do with a religious named buildings because we are a people who have been “called out” of the rule of man coming under the authority of Jesus Christ.

Those who choose to leave religious corruption will end up in the “wilderness.” This is a place of vulnerability because the religious pew-warming posse will try to ambush you. They will “demonize” you calling you a “lone ranger” who is “rebellious,” “divisive,” “intolerant,” a "heretic" and “ back-slidden.”

Remain Steadfast

Remember, your conviction to leave came form the Holy Spirit. The antichrist spirit is to make people comfortable in social rituals where “ear candy” is served. They are secure in numbers; however Scripture states,

I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, WILL HE FIND FAITH ON EARTH?” – Luke 18:18

Withdrawal symptoms are inevitable, but remain steadfast, the peace will come.

"The STEADFAST OF MIND You will keep in perfect peace, Because he trusts in You. – Isaiah 26:3

The Holy Spirit will draw us to like-minded brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, but it will not look like what religious men are doing in the world. There is a remnant out there. We must learn to be guided by Him and trust solely in His Son by following him only, then we will recognize our other brothers and sisters in Christ.

Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him DENY HIMSELF and take up his cross and follow me. - Matthew 16:24

As attested in Scripture, many disciples did not continue following Jesus Christ, but turned back.

If you are discouraged, realise that you have a “faithful friend” who will never leave you, or forsake you. Your “faithful friend” has come to save you. Yes, you will be called a “lone ranger.” Consider it a blessing as they revile you.

BLESSED ARE YOU when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. – Matthew 5:11

Spiritual Community

If you are reading this, be assured that there are other brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ who do not conform to religious man-made traditions.

Although the Ekklesia are a scattered bunch and hard to find, the Holy Spirit will guide us together in one spirit as we all are in one accord in a spiritual community with Jesus Christ having a great hope for the great gathering (episunagōgē) of the saints upon his return.

We are a “called out” community (ekklesia) who are scattered locally and internationally who do not conform to the traditions of man by being part of an attendance of certified members who function in the ritual, rites and formalities of “Churchianity.” A common bond can be found among those who spread the Gospel of the Kingdom by heeding Kingdom initiatives and principles through the working of the Holy Spirit, making disciples of Jesus Christ in his name.

Where are the Ekklesia to be found?

The Holy Spirit will guide you to them. It is not a bond in man’s traditions, but a spiritual bond. The Ekklesia is not identified by glossy religious physical distinctions and destinations, but are identified by their spiritual distinction of being allegiant to the principles the Kingdom of God. Being born again is the criteria to recognizing its citizens.

Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, UNLESS ONE IS BORN AGAIN he cannot see the kingdom of God.” – John 3:3

The Kingdom of God does not consist of “church” buildings. Unfortunately, denominational pew-warming members cannot see this as they are shackled to their “sacred cow;” the institutional eisegesis of Hebrews 10:25. They are lost in tradition.

"Thus you NULLIFY THE WORD OF GOD by your TRADITION that you have handed down. And you do many things like this." - Mark 7:13

Training

As we are trained in the gifts God has given us and learn how to use them, we will find others who are doing the same. They are the ones (the ekklesia) who are in one accord with Jesus Christ.

Our indoctrinated preconceived ideas must be shed. We must learn to listen and recognize the voice of God, which requires staying away from the zealous carnal noise of man’s traditions. From there, we will learn to recognize the true followers of Jesus Christ, not the ones who just give him lip service.

It may seem lonely, but you are not alone; you have a “faithful friend.” That’s where it starts. It’s a day-to-day journey with your “Helper.” It’s not about a career, money, or “ministry.” It is about learning how to listen and obey. It is ignoring the “pious parrots” and the “pulpit peacocks” with their vain religious opinions.

Jesus was called many names; we will be called worse.

"Students are to be like their teacher, and slaves are to be like their master. And since I, the Master of the household, HAVE BEEN CALLED THE PRINCE OF DEMONS, the members of My household WILL BE CALLED BY EVEN WORSE NAMES!" – Matthew 10:25

“If the world HATES YOU, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world HATES YOU. Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also PERSECUTE YOU. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. – John 15:18-20

With respect to this they are surprised when you do not join them in the same flood of debauchery, and THEY MALIGN YOU – 1 Peter 4:4

The “Lone Rangers,” Foreigners and Nomads

I would encourage you to study God’s Word with the guidance of the Holy Spirit that is not tainted with an indoctrinated lens. The “wisdom” of religious men and God’s wisdom are two totally different and opposing forces.

Who cares what other people think. Many who read this will find this text offensive. They want their egos stroked and the backs patted. Who cares! We will look like “fools” in their eyes because we don’t play “church” with them.

Disciples of Jesus Christ no longer belong to the world and do not identify themselves by the world’s standards. We are foreigners and nomads on this earth. That is why we will be called “lone rangers,” but we call them “pew-warmers.”

Abraham was a foreigner who was called to leave his home; by faith he forged ahead. He had to trust in God living out in the wilderness living in tents. This did not deter him because he continued to move forward with the confidence and hope of the promise given to him. He saw the Kingdom of God with his spiritual eyes.

We too must heed the call of God through his Son. We must abandon the vain harlot “church” system that is unfortunately home to many. They are comfortable in man-made traditions. The narrow path is not comfortable; it requires perseverance.

Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, AND HOPE DOES NOT PUT US TO SHAME, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us. – Romans 5:3-5

We are NOT alone. We have a “Helper” to be with us along the way.

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Oztinato 10 months ago from Australia

Even if a person leaves a church group there is no need to deride the group. Only religious intolerance needs derision.

My advice to those who leave a specific group is to keep the memory of the good times, remain on good terms as possible with former friends and not to talk ill of the former group.

Certainly derogatory terms such as "harlot" etc will only damage the swearer.


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celafoe 10 months ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

Another excellent article of truth.

Those seeing truth and leaving the system of mans "churches" are bombarded with the most UnGodly attacks from these false apostles, teachers and shepherds. and their sheep as they have been taught, just follow their false leaders as usual instead of checking scripture for themselves and they destroy their relationships with their brethren that have seen truth. God help them in their ignorance.

But they that have truly heard the truth will not be dissuaded and follow the Holy Spirit, rejecting the attacks from the apostate church system

To oz-- Nice churchy comment, only problem is it is contrary to scripture that tells us to EXPOSE ERROR PUBLICLY and not cover the tails of those false leaders who follow man instead of the Holy Spirit.

Truth is always in order whether welcome or not.


KingdomCome 10 months ago from those of the Ecclesia

PandN - You continue to write great articles.

The analogy of the Lone Ranger and Tonto fits this article perfectly. If we as the ecclesia are seen by others as Lone Rangers , then so be it.

I believe that churches and the clergies within should be exposed for what they are. They ARE the HARLOT church system. And I have no problem telling them exactly that.

Seeking the Kingdom of God is of the utmost importants. We should continue spreading the gospel everywhere and by any means avaible.

I will coninue to support your efforts to share the truth.

God Bless

celafoe- I agree with you completely. Many time those who leave the harlot church system are often treated like worthless animals by those who are still in the harlot "church" system. In most cases it's the clergy of the churches that encourge it.

God bless.


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Rich kelley 10 months ago from The Ekklesia

Nicely put together discussion of what is going on out there in the world as we speak and read together. The misquoting of Hebrews 10:25 is not going to go away, they have the power of the pulpit and the numbers that follow their false teachings. Your writing here gives everyone that has listened to the calling of God to come out of the system hope and understanding that what they are going through is NOT unusual. Sometimes it just takes one persons comments to affirm many things that may be coming up in the believers life. Hubs like this can help those still in the deception and those that have left, we are to build each other up and this article is how it is done. Thank you.

I think it is neat when chapter and verses from different books end up kind of relating to one another.

The attack

Hebrews 10:25 not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

The answer

Matthew 10:25 It is enough for the disciple to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign those of his household.

Oztinato

"Only religious intolerance needs derision." This is not scriptural but humanistic sticky syrup to have you accepted by any and all as guru of peace and tolerance. Statements like this go well with the anything goes crowd, which has become the majority today it would seem. I am of the "Woodstock" age and understand the lets all get along mentality. Problem is that it was wrong then and no different today. To say that we should tolerate any and all religions is the reason there are 40K plus denominations/divisions out there to begin with. (In Christianity)

Christ had no religious tolerance of his own people let alone other gods and goddesses of His time. Today the disciple of Christ is to be like His master and to tolerate for the sake of being diverse well it just isn't that way in the Kingdom of God. It is His way or the high way so to speak. He is an IF/THEN God. IF you want to sing kumbya with all manner of religions THEN you will end up around a very hot camp fire, your choice. IF you are a disciple of Christ and mirror His life, values and actions THEN He will recognize you before His Father.

Now having said that; it is not to say we are to become militants towards any and all that are not disciples of Christ. But don't tell me you are a disciple of Christ and look and act like something else, that will not be tolerated by disciples or Christ when He comes again.


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

What a well done article. You certainly lay your position out very well. To be sure not to act a wolf in sheep's clothing let me say straight out that I attend church. I like it. I am not a member and I don't tithe. My son sits with me and does not attend "Sunday School". We love to sing. The folks are quite nice and respectful. The minister is very good as a guide more than a teacher.

I used to preach. I did not get paid for it and I never used a pulpit. Come to think of it, I never used amplification either. But I did not care for the "cultish" following of the paid priest. So now I just preach in Eric's Sunday Sermons.

As you can see I am a cheater. I sit in the pew like a good boy but I get my bible study home alone before the sun rises each day. (today was cool, I just love Matthew -the sewing of the seeds)

So I take the members of my body and I try to let my head learn from my fingers and my toes learn from my eyes. The body of Christ is so diverse and varied in both body and spirit. From old to young from old to new. We each have a long walk to take.

I can tell you from personal experience, and I do not mean this to sound arrogant but it does, some people just do not have it in them to learn and fall in love with the Word by themselves. Just the meanings of things like incarnate and ascension make their minds go wobbly. Suggest to them that faith is more important than food on the table and they just don't get it. I would like to think that after many years of being spoon fed they can eat on their own of the Word -- but mostly I do not hold my breath.

Yes the vision of the Christian is backwards and your Lone Ranger should be the norm with the Church as an incubator for those that would not have a clue otherwise. But they see the Church as the end all to beat all and retention is more important than liberation. If I taught my children that way they would still be asking for an allowance at age 30.

So I agree we should help the members of our body that still suffer under the darkened cloak of the churches to "see the light".

I am not called to wield a sword in such regard. But maybe rather to hold up a candle and gently offer my hospitality in a Christian sense. But I also see the need for the harsh reality set forth by this well done article and I encourage you to keep beating that drum as it will help many become unstuck in that social morass. The comfort zone of a church needs to be shaken at its core so strength is found to disconnect and get connected directly.


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Rich kelley 10 months ago from The Ekklesia

Eric

I understand the point you are making with the "Lazy" laity that are taught to be spoon fed and pay for it besides. (LOL) Your choice of the words "incarnate and ascension" are a good point. After searching several large in use bible translations, the word incarnate is in none of them and the word ascension is used once in the NASB translation (Luke 9:51) all other translations say taken up.

It is part of the set up, to keep people in the dark. We in fact haven't come out of the dark ages as there is now more power and gadgets to keep people very much in darkness. Why would or could a person with a Doctrine/Masters in religion be wrong? How could so many people be wrong?

I would venture a guess that the ability to read and write was not very high when Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, James, Jude, Paul etc. were writing to people then. Yet look what took place. A big difference is none of those writers were part of a clergy laity set up. No of those writers were in it for the money. All of those writers were of one accord. There wasn't different denominations/seperations. Most all of the writers were killed for their spiritual leadership, today what they did is looked at as a viable vocation supported by the government. Just about opposite of then.


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

One fun part about the 501(c) 3 is that that means that the Preacher is an employee of a corporation. Sure sounds like two masters to me.


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PlanksandNails 10 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Oztinato,

And making a whip of cords, he drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and oxen. And he poured out the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables. - John 2:15

Saying to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a den of robbers.” - Luke 19:46

He said therefore to the crowds that came out to be baptized by him, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? - Luke 3:7

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead people’s bones and all uncleanness. - Matthew 23:27

Looks like Jesus Christ did not tolerate everything religious people did. He took a stand for truth. Did he talk ill of certain kinds of people and be derogatory? He sure did. Read the Bible, check it out for yourself.

The funny thing about people who raise their "tolerance" flag high is that they do not tolerate intolerance, making them intolerant too. They are self-refuting.

That is why you commented above. You are being intolerant of the intolerance in the article of certain behaviors.

To be a disciple of Jesus Christ is to tolerate what he tolerated and be intolerant of what he was intolerant of. That is the standard we are to live by if we claim to be his disciple.


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Oztinato 10 months ago from Australia

The problem with the gag "intolerant of intolerance" is that it is just a gag: religious intolerance is against good ethics and even law.

The story of the Good Samaritan as told by JC Himself proves that other religions are valued by true christians.


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Very interesting dividing line. When is tolerance accepted and expected and when is something to be rallied against and not tolerated? Cool. I lean toward the concept that Jesus could and does pass judgment, I cannot and do not.


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PlanksandNails 10 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Oztinato,

The Good Samaritan story is about the inherent value of all human beings, humanity, mercy and dignity. It was not about the value in accepting the worship of other gods, or worshiping God in the traditions of man. Scripture is clear on this.

The story of the Good Samaritan does not prove that other religions are valued by "true Christians," but is an example of the value that Jesus put on human life because he came to give all new life to those who would accept him.

Tolerance is just another word for compromise.

Scripture states,

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works. - 2 John 10-11

I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. - Romans 16:17

Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you. - Matthew 7:6

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” - John 14:6

In this verse in John, Jesus is saying that there is no other way to the Father except through him. If we are open to man’s philosophy of tolerance in this verse, then we are teaching contrary to Jesus’ words putting valuing on the practices of other religions.

The fact is “tolerance” is not taught in Scripture. Your banter is based on a deceitful word. What it means is to compromise. It comes from the nature of the world, not the Kingdom of God. Tolerance produces cowards, not people who stand on truth.

Tolerance is akin to living in the grey. Tolerance is man’s wisdom. Jesus did not come to “tolerate” on sin and sinners, but called them to repentance!

Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water. – James 3:11-12

Your philosophy is being taught upon the “church” pulpits today. Compromise is disguised as tolerance. What you call “true Christians” are people who like to avoid the discomforts that come from standing on the truth. They do not like making distinctions between what is black and white. Jesus Christ was uncompromising and did not try to make people comfortable, compromising, worldly nor teach the vain grey philosophy of men.

So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. – Revelation 3:16

That is the distinction between a follower of Jesus Christ and the “Christian” church member.


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PlanksandNails 10 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Eric,

Scripture states,

Let both grow together until the harvest, and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn.’”- Matthew 13:30

Jesus said that the field is the world and there will be both wheat and tares in the field. What is interesting is that the tares are gathered first and bound into bundles.

The field is the world, and the good seed is the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one - Matthew 13:38

What a striking resemblance to those who attend within the denominational "church" system. They are bound into thousands and thousands of bundles all across the globe. Usually things are bundled together because there is so much of one type of thing in a field during harvest time. There are so many denominational "churches" on every other street corner where people are bound together in man's doctrines and traditions.

Could this be what is called "church" today where invasive tares are being gathered before the great harvest?

To the contrary, the wheat is gathered in a barn, but notice that barn is singular not plural. The wheat will not be gathered in barns, but one barn.

Many will believe that their religious buildings are what helps the "wheat" to grow. These "wheat" call themselves "Christians." They believe that the field is the "church" building where the wheat and tares are tolerated in the compromise growing together. They are mistaken, it solely a gathering of tares disguised as "wheat."

I would advise you to get you and your son out of these buildings made with man's hands where God does not dwell. God has given you spiritual authority and responsibility over your son. Be wise, you do not want him to end up in the tare system because of your "cheating." Indoctrination is a powerful tool and the collective will hone in on him.

You want him to become a disciple of Jesus Christ. This starts by leaving the tare gathering and seeking first the Kingdom of God.

What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God - 2 Corinthians 6:16

“Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues - Revelation 18:4

And he said to them, “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.” - Matthew 4:19


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

And peace be upon you brother. A wonderful "sermon" with great citation and quotes. But be as I may I found not a word of love among it. The Gospel boils down to loving thy neighbor and enemy alike but I find no love in your sermon. Brow beating scripture, a plenty but no love. Brimstone and hellfire is acceptable but in it's place. You do not know me but you cast me in fire. What judgment has been bestowed upon you?


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PlanksandNails 10 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Eric,

Without being obedient to the doctrines that God has given us, the truth will not be in us. Without truth, we cannot have the knowledge of His love. Without the knowledge of His love, any “love” apart from His love, is a counterfeit. It has no value, or place in the Kingdom of God. It is a “love” of tolerance and compromise.

When we have the truth of the Word of God embedded in our hearts, it becomes who we are. This is the most import thing to have because truth is the UMBRELLA OVER LOVE.

And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. THIS IS THE GREAT AND FIRST COMMANDMENT. And a SECOND is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.” – Matthew 22:37-40

Do you notice Jesus doesn’t say that we are to love our neighbour first, but to love God first?

How many falsely believe that they have God’s love within them, but they actually have rejected God truth by conforming to man’s wisdom concerning what love is?

Those who stress the importance of “love” are vain and meaningless when ignoring and neglecting the standard of Scripture. Every religion has their own version of “love.” God has given us as a standard to live by. Relative truths cannot be perfected in God’s love. Those within the “church” system have perfected their art of sophistry on “love”. Every false “church” doctrine is solely about “love” without the truth. They have put the cart before the horse where “love” absorbs everybody’s differences into an ecumenical cesspool of good feelings.

When we just “love” in our words, it means nothing to God unless our deeds portray LOVE IN TRUTH.

Little children, let us not LOVE in word or talk but IN DEED AND IN TRUTH. – 1 John 3:18

The Bible teaches that we cannot worship God without truth; no matter how much “love” we may possess. Biblical love always includes the truth.

Love…it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices WITH THE TRUTH. – 1 Corinthians 13:6

When we walk in obedience to God by applying His truth, His perfected love will manifest in us and we will be pleasing in His sight. It is only then that we will know how to love our neighbors.

Many saw Jesus' love as offensive. His love often did not make religious people feel warm and fuzzy inside. Guess what they did as a result. They let Barabbas off the hook and crucified Jesus instead.

The devil’s “gospel” emphasizes “love” and “Jesus,” while distracting many away from abiding in truth. Without God's truth, we cannot have His genuine love perfected in us.


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Why do you yell?


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celafoe 10 months ago from Planet earth. between the oceans

Eric- He is not yelling, he is just speaking scripture TRUTH, which you always have a hard time with because it does not fit with your un-scriptural use and application of the the word "love"

P&N- Amen brother


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

The self righteous are so endearing.


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Rich kelley 10 months ago from The Ekklesia

Eric

"Very interesting dividing line. When is tolerance accepted and expected and when is something to be rallied against and not tolerated?"

When you are on line dealing with someone you don't know it would seem that most everything is rallied against. The typed words carry no love or concern for the other persons situation, experience, background, or practiced beliefs. All too often it is easy to make assumptions on what someone says with the keyboard. The more we get to know our online friends the more latitude is given knowing they don't hate us. Reality is that much of what we type is our perception and in real life it is somewhat different.

I can type something that when read will sound rather harsh, yet in person I might say it differently with different tones and facial expressions. My written communications might be ignored or taken as harsh and judgmental. In person you might see that I have struggled with the topic and that is why I'm rather black and white about it. In person many things that I have no problem typing on a forum, I would never say to someone unless asked. On the forum I don't need to be asked I just spit it out and stand by.

Our openness and willingness to accept what others say with a keyboard with no personal interaction is smaller than when done in person and by a friend.

We are to work out our salvation, problem is that the keyboard becomes a very impersonal way of working with others until you get to know them. If I could recall all my mistakes and assumptions I wouldn't because I'd just have to make them again until I learned.

"The self righteous are so endearing."

Aren't we all


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

Blessings be upon you for such a thought provoking summation. I thank you for adding to my understanding.


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Michael-Milec 10 months ago

An impressive title " Lone Rangers." ( Former or the newest production?!) (( My son patiently has explained to me both version of the movies...)

The Hub article ? Great effort, much has been said; great work as long as you know you are right...

... instantly in spirit I have perceived a scene in the heaven as Lord Jesus and the company of the saints have been laughing about your "Lone Rangers" - Jesus saying , FINALLY they came across our conversation while down on the earth : 'Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not follow with us. But Jesus said to him, ""Do Not Stop him, for the one whois not against you is for you.""-'

Com on brothers, if you see me casting out demons in Jesus name or some other believer ( Mark 16:17)laying hands on the sick... don't judge us because we are not part of your 'ecclesia', please. Leave some judgment to the Lord himself...

If anything, let us concentrate on Jesus' statement to His followers "You are the light of the world..."(Matt.5:14-16) knowing that the light doesn't speaks or argues...

Have a blessed day, everyday.


Neil Braithwaite 10 months ago

Aaron -

Recently I have been moved by the Spirit to look into the original name of our creator and the name He gave His son.

The name that was given to Moses (Exodus 3:14-15) by the almighty creator of all things was YHWH (The tetragrammation - Pronounced Yahwah). Not LORD, God or Adonai.

The name Yahweh gave His son was Yahshua (Yahweh is salvation) - not Jesus.

So what's in a name?

I have come to believe quite a lot.


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PlanksandNails 10 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Michael-Milec,

I know this is a controversial theme to many. I was part of organized religion for most of my life. It wasn't till I left and started studying the whole counsel of Scripture that things were not adding up in man’s religious system.

The Scripture you brought up is a good example of the denominational mentality. If the member does not follow in their ways, in their particular group, then they are not following Christ. They want to silence those who do not physically follow with them in their man-made buildings they have created for themselves. The disciples argued among themselves to who was the greatest.

Jesus affirmed (Mark 9:39) the one who was doing works in his name because he was genuinely doing his work. The disciples were trying to prevent this man from doing the work of the Lord because he was not physically joined with them following their Savior with them.

The fact is members of religious denominations have the same elitist spirit Jesus admonished the disciples for having. Members of denominations physically group themselves “worshipping God” in their man-driven 501(c) 3 agendas. They do religious “works” under the banner of the own brand-name giving lip service to Jesus Christ while yoked with the world’s system.

Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking IN THE SPIRIT OF GOD ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit. – 1 Corinthians 12:3

The disciples were admonished for arguing about who was the greatest among their group. Even Joshua, the son of Nun had the same motives against his own people.

And Joshua the son of Nun, the servant of Moses, one of his young men, answered and said, My lord Moses, forbid them. But Moses said to him, “Are you jealous for my sake? Would that all the LORD’S PEOPLE were prophets, that the LORD would put His Spirit upon them!” – Number1 11:28-29

Those who genuinely do things in Jesus’ name are not under a banner of an institution, but are one with the Spirit of Christ.

Your reference to Matthew 5:14-16 in your statement, “knowing that the light doesn't speaks or argues...” I don’t think makes sense in context. The many followers of Jesus Christ as attested in Scripture were martyrs because they were not silent and spoke up against the religious institutional systems of their day, just like Jesus did.

Jesus is the example of the true Light (John 1:9). To follow in his footsteps will be likened to “speaking up” and “ being argumentative” to those who sit in pews.

We are are called by Jesus Christ to repent and walk in obedience to the principles of the Kingdom of God.


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PlanksandNails 10 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Neil,

I would be interested in what you have discovered in your research and study concerning "...what's in the name." Just like you, I have come to understand that ekklesia and church are very different in nature when studied in more depth.

I noticed that upon a brief reading of your first article on your website that you have changed the title of the website as well as changed names too.

http://honorgodsword.blogspot.ca/

Have you, or are you in the process of writing an article on this? I would be interested in perusing Scripture and the evidence you have found. Please e -mail me if you would like.


Neil Braithwaite 10 months ago

@ Aaron -

I am currently studying everything I can find about the original Hebrew names of what most people refer to as "God" and "Jesus."

I am using the same logic and reasoning as I used to research the "trinity" and the "church."

So far, I have come to realize that the names of our Creator and His son, written in most bible translations, are not only wrong, but have been removed and replaced by the same power that brought us the trinity doctrine.

As we all have personal names, so too does our Father and His son.

I urge everyone who reads this comment to begin to research for yourself to see if I am on the right track.

I will say this, I get the same condescending and harsh response when I bring up this issue as I do when I talk about the trinity.


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Ericdierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

It is good you write so frankly. We must remain constant in review of our faith and listen to good. You speak well and should be heard.


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Rich kelley 10 months ago from The Ekklesia

Neil

After a bit of research I find that the pursuit of God’s name has been going on longer than many realize. Anytime there is that much man made information out there someone is bound to be swayed one way or the other. What I have found is that there are two “main” versions and tales that go with them. It doesn’t matter which one you believe because they are correct and can prove it. Not only can they prove they are correct but the others are wrong and they can of course prove that.

Yahweh or Yehovah for God

Yahshua or Yeshua for Jesus

A thought came to my mind while researching this, I have never called my father by his name. Then my thoughts went to the New Testament to see what Jesus called His Father. You guessed it, 247 times in the New Testament Jesus refers to God as “Father” not Yehovah or Yahweh. No matter the camp one could team up with the same fanatical outcome is there. The attitude that the Jehovah witnesses have about His name is the same as the Hebrew roots crowd. Different story same attitude of intellectual superiority promoting their sacred name philosophy.

Matthew 9:4 But Jesus, knowing their thoughts,(partial quote)

is what it really comes down to in the end, not Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, or English but our minds and our hearts. If we are disciples of Christ then .......

Revelation 22:4 We will see his face, and His name will be on our foreheads. (personalized)


Neil Braithwaite 9 months ago

@Rich Kelley -

I am quickly coming to the conclusion that using any other name/title to address the one true God and the Messiah, other than Father, brother, or "Lord/God with qualified words such as; the most high, the one true, the great and everlasting, etc., is to dishonor and disrespect both Yahweh and Yahshua.

Think about it... would you be a little upset and maybe feel disrespected if someone wrote your history and left out your given personal name?

How about if they did use your given name, but centuries later, some editors removed and replaced it with something they liked better?

The facts remains, Leviticus 24:16 can't be more clear: "He who blasphemes (Punctures holes in - forcibly changes - adulterates) Yahweh’s name, he shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall certainly stone him. The foreigner as well as the native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death."

BTW - That is Yahweh himself speaking.

In the OT, Yahweh's name has been removed/replaced 6,823 times - in spite of the fact that Yahweh said over and over - either directly to Moses in Exodus 3:14-15, to all the "sons of Israel" in Exodus 20, and many, many more times by the mouth of His prophets - to keep His name "holy" and respected/feared for "all" generations.

Here is a really good study on the name of our Messiah:

http://yrm.org/yahshua-yeshua-pronounce.htm


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

How very interesting. What about speaking the name in tongues. What then?


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Rich kelley 9 months ago from The Ekklesia

Neil

We can play link ping pong forever. For everyone you like I could show a counter with opposite opinion. That should be a clue.

To compare man's feelings to God is an emotional straw man that I'll not get into.

The lying scribes have been lying for a long time. To think that one can researched back far enough to find where the lying started would be self deception at it's best.

God has not put His name in our minds or on our hearts, I don't know why but that's a fact. He has put His word and Kingdom principles there.

These people don't even have the discernment to refute the trinity doctrine, I'm not about to trust them with anything else. You are anointed by the Holy Spirit or you are not. They don't get a partial anointing on the name game but it's removed on the trinity doctrine.

The name doctrine is many and all result in division bar none.

Rich


Rich Kelley 9 months ago

Neil

I've read the link you provides. Not that I'm wanting to be part of the Hebrew name of God movement but I find the below link more informative.

Http://www.hope-of-israel.org/tetragram.html


Neil Braithwaite 9 months ago

Rich -

Yes, I've read all of what that web site has on names and it's pretty well written, and they offer many citations in their studies. However, they tend to also use "Wikipedia" quite often, and I'm reluctant to support that evidence, or to give much credence to anyone that believes it's a "valid" source for anything.

In any case, I'm almost 100% convinced that the name of the one true God is Yahweh (pronounced with 3 syllables - the 2nd one being almost silent), and the name of our Messiah is Yahshua (pronounced as it is written - and more importantly, including the abbreviated name of Yahweh - YAH).

We can also be close to 100% certain that the name given to Moses in Exodus 3:14-15 is "YHWH." (The "Tetragrammation / four words). I've read all the arguments for spelling it YHVH (pronounced Yehovah), but I'm not convinced of that being the case.

I do know that if there are any two names under heaven that do deserve the highest honor and respect, they are the names of the God of Israel and His son and our Messiah.

As I stated before, Yahweh told Moses in Exodus 3 not only His personal name, but exactly what it His name meant: "I AM THAT I AM" - "Who was, and is, and is to come." He also said that it was His name "forever" and was to be remembered by all generations.

Given that, I think it behooves any who "calls on" His "name" to make a concerted effort to know what that name is.

As for our Messiah's personal name, it's the name given to him by His Father (and ours) Yahweh. And that name should carry just as much respect and honor - given that he now sits at the right hand of Yahweh waiting to judge all people at the coming kingdom of Yahweh..

"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other NAME under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12

Great discussion!

We would have probably been banned by the curator from any other "Christian" web site by now. Ha!


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Rich kelley 9 months ago from The Ekklesia

Neil

"However, they tend to also use "Wikipedia" quite often, and I'm reluctant to support that evidence, or to give much credence to anyone that believes it's a "valid" source for anything."

The document I linked above has not one reference to Wikipedia, I just went through the 43 pages of many many references to different sources but Wikipedia didn't show up in that document.

I have not spent much time on the site but I do know they don't believe in the trintity.

Rich


Neil Braithwaite 9 months ago

Rich -

I have read a lot of their studies, and you will find several times where they site Wikipedia.

See this post and look under the section "The Letter 'J'"

http://www.hope-of-israel.org/messiahsname.html

It may just be certain authors that do this, but I can't remember all the posts.

Neil


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Michael-Milec 9 months ago

You sad "We are are called by Jesus Christ to repent and walk in obedience to the principles of the Kingdom of God,"" - and commanded to do the deeds of the Kingdom...


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PlanksandNails 9 months ago from among the called out of the ekklesia of Christ Author

Michael-Milec,

True.

Jesus said, “If you love me, you will keep my commandments." - John 14:15

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead. - James 2:14-26


KingdomCome 9 months ago from those of the Ecclesia

Michael-Milec- The "works" the PandN mentions in His above comment as he quoted in James 2:14-26 is the same "works" mentioned in Revelation 20:12 (NKJV) which states: 12 And I saw the dead, small and great standing before God, and the books were opened. And another book was opened which is the Book of Life. And the dead where judged according to their "works" by the things which were written in the books.

Faith without works is dead.

God bless.


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Ericdierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

One must accept just on general principal regardless of scripture that one who speaks and feels and has faith in, is outside this world. We are to live in this world and faith. Yes we know we are not to be of this world in a certain sense. But you would be a jerk if you did not have compassion on your fellow man and I am sure the Bible says that being a jerk is bad.

This idea of praying and meditating and giving alms is fine. But when the stranger shows himself to you it requires action and not some fruity blessing.

Lone Rangers do this, in my opinion more than others. They spend the time asking hard question and trying to answer them themselves with some kind of divine guidance. Brutal work if you care to embark. A whole lot tougher than reading Eric's Sunday Sermons.

Lone Rangers are needed for our sake. I need 'em to keep me fresh.


Edgar 9 months ago

501c3.......... 5+0+1=6...... C(copy) 3=666

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