What is Masonry all about?

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Yes, yes, yes before you even start to tell me how your uncle, father, boyfriend or husband is a Freemason and how wonderful they are, how they help the homeless and are charitable with their money and would never raise their hand against anyone ...hear me out!


The way Masonry works is to use the lower level members as a shield to deflect criticism of the higher level masons. It's a remarkably ingenious way to run a covert operation when you think about it. Whenever criticism is leveled against Freemasonry the mason can point to some lower level guy who is a Mason, a standing pillar of society who attends a harmless boys club with a few harmless rituals thrown in. This way they can say the critics are crazy. Moreover, since our population has the attention span of a fruit fly, it works, so who can blame them.

Additionally, they use symbols that have hidden meanings. The true meanings of these symbols are hidden from the public. They include secret handshakes, hand signs and symbols such as the all seeing eye, pyramids and numerology to name but a few.


However, let's take a look at what some of the higher level Freemasons have said about Freemasonry.


Albert Pike was a 33rddegree mason and belonged to the Scottish Rite Freemasonry. He is quoted as saying:


Lower-level Masons are just dupes being used by the upper-level ones, the so-called "Princes of Masonry."

Furthermore he wrote in his book Morals and Dogma:

Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!”


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And in pages 220-221:


Thus, the doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil.”


According to the book “Secret Teachings of the Masonic Lodge” H.V.B. Voorhis, a true Masonic giant, is a 33rd degree Mason who holds almost unparalleled distinction within Masonry. He holds membership in eighty Masonic bodies and seventy-nine Masonic organizations. In over sixty years as a Mason, he was the presiding officer in thirty-four of those eighty Masonic bodies, as well as vice president of Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company. He holds more Masonic honors than any other Mason. ...This leading Mason acknowledged that there were Masonic ties to Egyptian religion, the Rosicrucians, the druids and other ancient mystery religions. ...In his glossary, Voorhis defines occult Masonry as Masonic philosophies, or degrees, which are more profound than the membership at large comprehends. He defines “occult sciences” as sciences which are hidden from the vulgar because such “less educated” persons would neither understand nor appreciate them.


So then, this eminent Mason freely confesses that Masonry and the occult go hand in hand and he encourages others to pursue the study of the occult arts. It is easy to understand how Masonry is capable of encouraging occult studies. It constantly urges the Masonic student to seek out its ancient and hidden wisdom.


There are myriads of books written about Masonry; I have written this article to attempt to stem the tide of acceptance of Masonry. It is a subtle yet devious organization, one that bestows great connections and favors upon it's members, if only for awhile. Most of our leaders have been and are now Masons. I have only had a few close encounters with Masonry. But, I can tell you that I had a very strong sense of evil from those encounters. This is not something that I say lightly or that happens frequently. I hope that I would encourage you to stay away from this organization.

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r-o-y 6 years ago

Great HUB! Freemasonry is the of the leading forces behind the modren day explosion of occult activity. I'm working a HUB rifgt now of Freemasonry infiltration of the Church of Christ. keep up the good work. God Bless


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msorensson 6 years ago

Great beginning lines!! I was hooked..it is so true!!

"Yes, yes, yes before you even start to tell me how your uncle, father, boyfriend or husband is a Freemason and how wonderful they are, how they help the homeless and are charitable with their money and would never raise their hand against anyone ...hear me out!"

I have met Freemasons, read about them,but I will not know anything about them intimately.

It is as you said in the very beginning...


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks msorensson for your enthusiastic comments!


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r-o-y 6 years ago

I'm new to this internet church I know I've already made mistakes in this learning process, and will make more in the future, but I'm feeling something very unchristian like. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, please help me to understand it.


EnLydia Listener 6 years ago

Is it unchristian to expose Lucifer? I found this article informative...too hot to argue with anyone!


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r-o-y 6 years ago

YOU JUMP IN THE CAR AND STARTED DRIVING AND DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE WE'LL GOING. I'M IN 100% AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WAS SAID IN THE HUB. that's all I'll say about that.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

roy, could you be more specific?


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r-o-y 6 years ago

As I said when I first tried to get your attention, I’m new to the internet church, my internet etiquette, may not be would it should be, I don’t know that’s’ why I was trying some nice Christian person to help me with it. I couldn’t help but notice that when you first publish the hub, on freemasonry, someone commented on it, and he got no response, than his comment was removed. I thought that was a bit strange. Then I posted a comment and got no response. That’s ok, then a third posted a comment and jumped on it right away. It seemed almost like a cold shoulder. So I’m thinking did I do something I shouldn’t have? I wanted to know did I and other guy offend you in some king of way, for to pass us up completely and go strait to the bottom of the list. I thought it was so obvious that I wouldn’t have to explain it.

IS IT ALL JUST MY IMAGINATION? IT DONT FEEL LIKE IT!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Well, I don't think I need to explain myself but I will. The first comment had an url on it. I rarely allow comments that post their urls on them, that is why I deleted it. As far as the other comments go...I don't always respond to every comment. I have quite a few hubs sometimes I respond sometimes I don't, it has little to do with the commenter. I am pretty straight forward so if someone writes something I don't like I will either delete the comment or comment myself, you don't have to guess. I guess I didn't understand what you meant by "internet church". I still don't understand what you mean by that term. However, I will tell you one thing...to use all caps is like yelling, so that is something I would not do if I were you. If you hadn't told me that you were not used to the internet I would have been offended at the use of all caps and the way you worded your question. I'm sorry I didn't respond to your comment, I was unsure if you were commenting or just trying to plug your own hubs, but in any case I'm glad you did and I'm glad you enjoyed it.


Chasuk 6 years ago

It's sad to see the old lies about Pike resurrected again.

The quote concerning "the doctrine of Satanism" is a fabrication. Pike's Morals and Dogma is still available; I've perused every edition, and it appears in none of them. Anyone with access to a university library can discover the same for themselves. Project Gutenberg has the 1944 edition available online, for those who don't have access to a good library.

The quote containing the words, "Lucifer, the Son of the Morning!" does appear, but it means the opposite of what you think it does, if you read it in context.

Pike writes this (in Morals and Dogma):

"Hypocrisy is the homage that vice and wrong pay to virtue and justice. It is Satan attempting to clothe himself in the angelic vesture of light. It is equally detestable in morals, politics, and religion; in the man and in the nation."

Those words make clear that Pike does not think favorably of Satan.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Well Chasuk, if that is true I quoted it from the book mentioned in the hub...I suggest you sue the author. Or maybe one of those rich Mason's should sue them...but until then I'm going to believe what it wrote, especially since I've read much more than what I wrote and I know that Masonry is Satanic.


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Judah's Daughter 6 years ago from Roseville, CA

Right on again, sister Brie! Ask masons if Lucifer is good and they will tell you he is. People that know others that are masons or have been tempted to join the organization really should look up "ex-Masons" on the internet and find out all about it. It's dark and evil. If people want to be proactive and kind in their community, get involved in the root of God ~ His Church or just make your little corner of the world and people in it know the love of the true Light of Life ~ Jesus Christ! Lucifer means "star of the morning" and yet Jesus Christ is called "the bright and morning star" in Rev 22:16. Lucifer is the spirit of Antichrist, the king of Babylon in Isaiah 14 and the king of end-time Babylon of Revelation!! Bless you, sister! Keep shining His Light on that false light!!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks JD, I felt compelled as there is so much pro-masonry stuff on hubpages.


Chasuk 6 years ago

@Brie: Masonry may indeed be Satanic. I don't believe that it is, but it might be. However, that isn't what I was disputing. I was disputing the allegation about Pike.

I'm not interested in suing anyone. I'm interested only in correcting misinformation.

You "know" that Freemasonry is Satanic because you have read convincing evidence in books that you consider reputable.

I have presented evidence that the author of one of the books you trust is a liar. This is evidence you can easily check yourself.

I ask you this: Will you bother to check? If you do check -- and discover that my counterclaim is factual -- will you reconsider your belief?


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

That's just it Chasuk...whether those specific quotes are untrue or not ..would not change the outcome because I've read several books on Masonry, it is most definitely a Satanic religion. There are other proofs that Masonry is Satanic some of which is subtle and crafty. My hubs tend to be short and to the point so as not to bore anyone with endless quotes, but all the evidence is there should anyone choose to delve into it. Just watching the video series below would be enough to convince anyone.

Nevertheless, I will check on it. However, I would think (like I said) if it was untrue that someone would have sued someone by now.


Chasuk 6 years ago

@Brie: That's a reasonable answer. Thank you.

As for lawsuits, Pike died in 1891, so he can't defend himself. If his estate sued (assuming that there is a Pike estate, and that they have the legal authority to sue), then suing still isn't easy, and it is expensive. Further, it is often pointless. If his estate sued, the defendant would merely claim that the quote came from a secret, privately published edition of Morals and Dogma (now lost in an unfortunate fire, probably started by Masonic arsonists), and the anti-crowd would believe it.

In any case, the point of the lawsuit -- correcting a lie -- would be wasted.

Again, thank you for your patient rebuttals.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I just don't see why someone would make it up, they would have nothing to gain. Moreover, so much of Masonry is secret and hidden to the public, I could see him saying something like that and it only being published in certain realms. However I will look into it...give me some time because I'll have to wait until I have a day off.


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Nera Woods 6 years ago

Brie, I'm glad I clicked the link to your article from my email. Now I need to read about Masonry as there's a big Freemasonry structure being built near our subdivision. I must know how they invite people, and if those I know in the community need to be warned.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

There is a lot of stuff on You Tube and I would encourage you to watch the video below (there are 4 installments watch them all). It's not an easy thing to study in my opinion. Every time I would look into it I would get sick and it's cloaked in thick occult language.


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blackreign2012 6 years ago

I could go on about this subject for I am somewhat versed in it I am still learning.. The Masonary is a perculiar sect.. I understand their basic outline but the contridictions within are intriguing and not in a good way in a "huh?" sort of context... Great hub as always! ~hugs~


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fred allen 6 years ago from Myrtle Beach SC

Brie- There are so many who live as enemies of the cross of Christ and His mission. I'm glad you have the courage to call them out even when you face opposition in doing so. You are a person who displays great courage. It is inspiring.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks Blackreign...and fred, I am glad you find it inspiring but you should really admire those that suffer for their views, like Christians in Muslim countries...that is true courage.


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Jenna~sea 6 years ago from Oregon

wow!!! I myself have had experiances with the masions. It was many years ago but left a great impression on me as well. I dare not judge for that i have no athority. but i will say in my research i incountered somethings that left me unsure of what to belive.as i got close to understanding or rather uncovering, i was advised to stop my investagation of them .I'm not saying i was threatened but i would say i was frightened!!!!so much so that even now im weary in writing this comment.I would like to hear from both side's on this matter.???


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Jenna, I know EXACTLY what you mean.


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FCEtier 6 years ago from Cold Mountain

I guess all my experiences have been with the lower level dudes.

Aren't the Shriners an extension of or an even higher level of Masonry?


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Yes the Shriners are an offshoot of the Masons...not sure about their level though.


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cindyvine 6 years ago from Kyiv, Ukraine

Wasn't one of those churches started by a guy kicked out of the masons? Either the mormons or the latter day saints, I'm sure it's one of them.


Chasuk 6 years ago

The Mormons and the Latter Day Saints are the same group.


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saddlerider1 6 years ago

To go no further than to say World Order and Illuminati is a constant companion of Masonry. Scary thoughts does one not wonder who controls the presidency? All I have to say. Thank you Brie for being bold enough to shed light on this cult.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Yes, it was the Mormons. The Mormons have a lot of similarities to the Masons.

And yes, we have a Vichy Government for sure saddlerider1


Chasuk 6 years ago

The Mormons (AKA, the Latter Day Saints) borrowed bits of ritual from Freemasonry, but that is the only connection between the two groups.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

They borrowed more than just bits.


Chasuk 6 years ago

True; I guess I should have said "portions" instead.

Specifically, the Mormons borrowed large chunks of Freemasonry ritual and recycled them as Temple ceremonies.

Interesting tidbit: The widow of William Morgan -- whose murder inspired the 19th century US anti-Freemason movement -- married Joseph Smith, Jr., the founder of the Mormon church.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

That doesn't surprise me at all.


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FCEtier 6 years ago from Cold Mountain

Brie,

When I was teen, I remember a man from our home town that made it into the Shriners. He had been a mason for years and "worked his way up" to where he could join. So it sounds like a higher level.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks for the information.


Chasuk 6 years ago

@FCEtier: You have to be a Master Mason (the third, and highest degree of standard -- or "Craft" Freemasonry) to become a Shriner, but they are separate organizations.


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Jenna~sea 6 years ago from Oregon

so im still alive after posting my last comment,(sorry bad joke). Brie you are very brave And you seem to have alot of info on these guys id love to exchange notes with you >>>


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

You can write to me through the contact section if you want and we can exchange notes if you like. I have a morbid fascination with what is going on in the world today, I'm constantly looking for things.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Please don't put outside urls on my hub. I have no idea who the higher level masons are as I am not a mason and have no idea how to verify that information.


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djbraman 6 years ago

Brie, very informative hub, I agree with Judah's daughter if you want to be a good guy then get involved with Christ's church and spread the gospel that sets the captive free, no one can be set free by a club, whether its of the world or underlying motives to mislead people, the devil is a liar and he is subtle with his lies, he give 90% truth and 10% lie to discern his tactics you better know the word of God instead of the Masons! Good hub!


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks djjbraman!


Dr. Mike Fitzpatrick 6 years ago

David Icke reveals the nature of the freemasons best that i have seen. DMF


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

I don't trust David Icke, his ex-wife is very involved with New Age religions and there is some evidence that he himself is a Mason.


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blackreign2012 6 years ago

I agree with you Brie David Icke is not the most stable of sources but there is a percentage of what he says that is true.. It's just you have to take the time to discern through the looney talk and pull out the facts those which you can verify of course..You never should put your trust in any man I totally agree. The Creator is who I trust completely. I cannot speak on his character nor am I vouching for him though.. He is sort of a wacka-do (to be nice) :)


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Yes, I know, thanks blackreign2012


Paul 6 years ago

So the wealthy and elite rulers shmooze together and conspire on how to best rig things for their own benefit. I'm shocked, SHOCKED that this kind of activity happens.

Next you'll be telling me that wrestling is rigged.


IvyBlue 6 years ago

In reality, the conspiracy of the Masons is the sort of small "c" corruption of the type that was so aptly described by Sinclair Lewis that went on in Zenith, the setting of Babbitt.

Let's take a small town not unlike the one I grew up in. The higher order Masons would be the wealthier, more influential members of the community (think bank presidents, corporate officers and the like). The orders would descend pretty much mirroring those in society.

So, the town wants to build a new school. President of the school board tells a real estate agent who buys some land and flips it for a big profit. Head of a local construction outfit lands the building contract. Prominent insurance agent underwrites the policies...etc. All of the principles just so "happen" to be masons who profit at taxpayer expense.

Politicians would also be members and the scale of profit would simply be greater at the national level given the sums involved.

The corruption still exists only the principles are for the most part no longer Masons. That world is dead. Today it's the "K" street legion of lobbyists and the insatiable need for cash to run a campaign that drives the process. That's at the national level. Locally it's your public employee unions that are manipulating things for their own benefit. The only thing that's the same is that the taxpayers are still the patsies.

It's not for nothing that the Masons now have resorted to advertising for new members as they look at the organizations demographics. They are old and dying, like many of the fraternal organizations. Been in an Elks club lately? God's waiting room. Met an Oddfellow recently? Not a town in New England that doesn't have a former hall now converted to other uses.

The Shriners (yes, a higher order of the Masons) are probably going to have to start charging for services at the burn centers as they can no longer swing the money necessary to support them

The amazing thing about "conspiracies" is how open they really are. It's not too hard to figure things out once you start paying attention. As Deepthroat said to Woodward: "follow the money."


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks for your well informed comments IvyBlue. However, I am looking into an even deeper conspiracy involving Satanists...we shall see if it's only money they are after and if their numbers are shrinking...so far my research has not proven this out.


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Brie Hoffman 6 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks for your well informed comments IvyBlue. However, I am looking into an even deeper conspiracy involving Satanists...we shall see if it's only money they are after and if their numbers are shrinking...so far my research has not proven this out.


Rookie70 5 years ago

I was searching for this topic, and I am truly thankful for this hub, it inspired me with some good information and ideas. Your topic selection is amazing. Keep up the good work.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks, my topic selection directly correlates to my brain :)!


Sovereignty Soldier 5 years ago

Excellent topic! I have been researching the occult and secret societies since 2007. It is all true and as a Christian it completely fits with Biblical prophesy and scripture.

As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the end.

Look around, think about it from Gods' point of view. We have pagan symbols all over in society, we observe pagan holidays but name them something Christian sounding to feel good about it. I say God looks at us as a pagan nation and you know what he did to pagan nations in the past.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Yes, these days are very interesting!

I have some other articles you might like as well, thanks for writing Sovereignty Soldier.


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Dawn Maurer 5 years ago from Oklahoma

I have a little trouble with the term occult. Now let me explain.

I am a heathen pagan. This means I follow the gods of the ancient germanic tribes of northern europe. I am a witch. I read tarot cards, and seer stones and help to guide people on a spiritual path. I am a shaman who helps in the healing of others, both spiritually and sometimes physically.

I am not a doctor, nor a psychiatrist. I do things on a completely different level and I follow the spiritual guidance of the divine.

I have read the bible and many other books of spiritual writings that different beliefs have.

I dont believe that all of the 'occult' groups are good. I have seen some pretty nasty stuff out there in my own spiritual search in life.

I have never liked, nor trusted in the masons. They definitely give me the creeps. People need to understand something though. Not all of those people out there who are considered to be a part of the 'occult', or the world of witches, wiccans and pagans are bad.

Its like saying that Satanists are pagan. Well in my opinion they arent. They are anti christian, that makes them christian. They are in the same boat as everyone else who wants to say that the Devil or Satan, is there to destroy you.

Well, if you look up the term Satan, its an office held by someone in the jewish beliefs. Satan actually means, The Accuser. Its the title of the Attorney General in Isreal. A friend of mine told me that, and she's a messianic jew. Thanks for that info T.

In paganism, we dont believe in the devil or satan. We do however believe that there are entities and demons out there who would like nothing better than to destroy us and bring us down.

Just some food for thought there.

Great article though and well thought out.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

I'm glad you liked it but you are following a path that will lead you to hell. I say that not to offend but to try and warn you. Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's true or good.


No Hope For Humanity As Long As There Is Religion 5 years ago

Amen to that, "Just because you believe something doesn't mean it's true or good."

This statement is just as applicable to Christians who choose not tolerate any one else views or beliefs.

Too bad you also felt the need to tell this person they are going to hell for their views because they differ from your own.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

I did NOT tell them they were going to Hell because their views disagreed with my own. There is more than enough evidence to prove Christianity is true for those whose minds are NOT CLOSED SHUT!


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iskra1916 5 years ago from Belfast, Ireland.

Very interesting hub!

I'm currently watching the first video on the NWO, Freemasonry etc that you posted called 'Aquarius: Age of Evil'. I've watched 45 minutes of it so far & it is fascinating.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Thanks Iskra1916; feel free to repost these on your facebook.


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iskra1916 5 years ago from Belfast, Ireland.

Thank you Brie, I most certainly will.

I'm currently researching Freemasonry's dark side, which also involves the occult side of the 'craft.' Your articles have been a great help.

There is definitely a pyramid structure involved in more ways than just allegory, which I think you mention, that lower-ranking Freemasons are merely insulation for the upper echelons. This model correlates with other organisations whose primary purpose is allegedly hidden &/or nefarious eg, outlaw mororcycle clubs.

Anyway Brie, I'm enjoying reading your views on Freemasonry and the occult.

Best wishes from the wild west of Belfast, Ireland!


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

Oh wow, didn't realize you were from Ireland...one of my favorite countries in the whole world! I was there a long long time ago and hope to visit again someday.


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iskra1916 5 years ago from Belfast, Ireland.

Really, it is a small world as they say here?

What part of Ireland? If you ever get the chance to return for a holiday I would definitely recommend Donegal, it is in the North-west.


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Brie Hoffman 5 years ago from Manhattan Author

I was near Dublin at Kilkea Castle.


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

As a person who has read a lot about Masons and watched many different videos and documentaries about them, I fully disagree with your hub. Some of the "proof" you have that this society is satanic and the occult come from a man that was drummed out of the Masons for not having Christian-like beliefs.The other person you quote died in the late 1890's - more than 100 years ago. Do you have more current evidence?

And yes, the Shriners are a different organization,but one has to be a Mason to be a Shriner. If Mason's are satanic and Shriners are Masons then the Shriner's Hospital that helps millions of children every year must be a satanic organization - according to your logic....


RDCampbell 4 years ago

Brie,

There is no such thing as a 'higher level' of Masonry. Plus I have to ask you where you think satan is in Masonic rituals? Every Lodge I have been in has the Holy Bible resting in the center of the meeting room. Trust me, I have been in 100's of Lodges throughout the midwest in my time.

While I understand where you might be offtrack about Masonry, you have to be smart enough to see that not all Mason's are evil, nor do we worship satan. I consider myself a Christian, and to worship satan would be against everything I have been raised to believe.

If you could please, also try to use a source that hasn't been dead for 75-100 years. If you can, please try to find a source from this decade. There is a reason there are only 3 or 4 sources about anti-Masonry. There is no truth to the hatred and venom that is spewed out by most of the people that post about it.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Jesus Christ died 2000 (and rose) years ago but we still use his teachings. I see no problem quoting someone who lived 100 years ago.

Ridiculous RD Campbell...what do you think the degrees are?


RDCampbell 4 years ago

As someone that has been a Mason for over 25 years, I know what the degrees are.

It is hard to explain it to someone that does not have a clear understanding of what the degree work is all about.

You can not obtain a higher level than a 3rd Degree Master Mason. A 33rd Degree Mason has no more power or prestige over a 3rd Degree Mason.

How do I know this to be true? I was a 3rd Degree Master Mason for many years. I was asked to join the Scottish Rite which takes you to the 33rd Degree. I have no more power over another Mason than I did before. Nor do I answer to any higher Mason. It just isn't true.

Most of what you will read out there concerning Masons is not based in fact. It is based on fear of the unknown. Are we secretive? Sure. So are the local fraternities. Are they evil and worship Satan? Not that I am aware. Nor do the Mason's worship Satan. It just is not an accurate depiction of Mason's.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Did you ever think that maybe YOU are just not in the inner circle?


RDCampbell 4 years ago

Did you ever think that maybe you could be wrong about this?

As I clearly stated I am a 33rd Degree Mason. There is no such thing as a special group of Mason's. I have been to state, regional, and National conferences with other Mason's. Not one time has this story came up.

Research a little more about the topic please. The person given credit for saying there were a secret group of high ranking Mason's was a man that was not allowed to join because he did not believe in God.

So choose to believe someone that has never been inside a Masonic meeting, or believe a real live flesh and blood Christian that is right here telling you the truth.

I also wanted to add to your comment about not having to find current people to quote. Were you comparing a random human to Jesus Christ? I believe in the word of the Holy Bible. I do not always believe what has been written by man. Especially a man that did not believe in God. PLEASE do more research on the people that you quote in your Hub. You will find out that they are not always what some portray them to be.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

You believe in Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ said to take NO OATH, nor to swear..did you take an oath?

Mat 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:

Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:

Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.

Mat 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.

Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Freemasonry also states that: “If you deserve and purchase your path to heaven you are being saved by your own works, not God’s works.” This is from the Freemasons pocket companion. The true Christian knows that good works can never save you. Only the precious blood of Jesus Christ can achieve this. Nothing else. And if it did, what was the point of the Crucifixion?


RDCampbell 4 years ago

So according to you everyone that has taken an oath is in violation of their Christian beliefs?

What about the oath that EVERY person that enters an office of the public takes? (city council, school board, etc;)

How about EVERY police officer and EVERY member of our military?

They take oaths everyday. I do not consider all of them to be non-Christian.

I looked through my pocket companion and can not locate the particular quote you attribute to it. Also searched online and can not locate anywhere that the quote comes from a REAL Masonic pocket companion.

Part of the problem here is that you are only reading from websites that denounce Masonry. If you take the time to read the pocket manual you will find 100's of references to the Bible and Jesus Christ as well as God.

You appear to me to be someone that has drank someones Kool-Aid and believe the lies that you hear or read.

Here are some things that you might find interesting. The world will not end 12/21/12, Masons are not devil worshipers, those that 'appear' to be standing on higher moral or religious ground are usually the most immoral people that have roamed this earth.


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

So Brie are you saying no one should take an oath? The president of our country (and other countries) take an oath. Police officers, military personnel and many other people who protect our country every day, take oaths. When people marry, they take oaths. So where do you draw the line?


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Umm those aren't my words in the Bible, they are directly from Jesus.


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mel22 4 years ago from ,

Hey Brie, although you have probably read and or seen every movie about masonry; a good one to watch is 'Occult Forces' on Youtube although with your surname I'm not sure you'd take offense to it or not but it definitely gives a real world view on masonry. In French with subtitles if you don't mind reading along for a short 40-minute film from 1933. Good hub by the way.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

I'll take a look..but I hope its not anti-semetic.


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mel22 4 years ago from ,

forget that part of it while watching... it shows people from all walks of life, but has a subtle amount of anti-jewry in it but shows how the power structure works within it from a real point of view although at the end it has a burning magen david so maybe not if it will offend.. in actuality it was a nationalsocialist propaganda film that one of the editors were killed over which I didn't appreciate at first since I tend to lean toward the capitalist rather than socialist side- F.A Hayek all the way ! I'm not sure how you will view the film although the very ending credits you won't like much.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

I started watching it but it sure looks like a Nazi propaganda film to me. There are both gentiles and jews in the Illuminati so I reject all anti-semetism. Besides, I already know how it works.


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mel22 4 years ago from ,

after watching that movie I think that's why in Matthew 23:9 ; it states not to call anyone master lest you be come a slave... a past worshipful grand master YODA...take you to him I will, but first we must eat.. good food,yes,yes. I always wondered why the Catholics used the term father rather than priest too which is mentioned in the same line as one not to use along with abba so as not to lower yourself to them taking away your equality in a form similar to what others call ritual magick.( misspelled purposely)...how do you know how it works?...your not Order of the Eastern Star are you?... hmnnn.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

No, I've just studied it. It's the way all the Illuminati work..wheels within wheels so that they can have plausible deniability.


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mel22 4 years ago from ,

well i was just joking anyway.. but yes, you are right, they have a structure that allows it to be that way


RDCampbell 4 years ago

You can study all you want to, but what you are studying comes from illegitimate sources.

I am here, in the flesh, as a 33rd Degree Master Mason telling you that you are wrong. The illuminati and the Masons are not incahoots with each other. Why do I know this for certain?

1. The illuminati does not exist. It is a fabricated group made up by conspiracy theorist.

2. Masons are not part of some secret society that is going to take over the world.

3. Proof of this is in the fact that those that choose to believe this nonsense make up such a small percentage of society. Which in part gives me cause to think that the world is a better place than I thought it was.

I have asked you numerous questions in the last 24 hours and am curious as to why you haven't answered most of them? Do you not know the answers? Are you fearful of having a spirited conversation with someone that speaks the truth? Or is it something else? Which is it?


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justateacher 4 years ago from Somewhere Over The Rainbow - Near Oz...

Ummm....I knew that the words from the Bible passages are from Jesus...I didn't question that...I am asking you the question - where do YOU draw the line? Are all political offices and military and married couples committing a sin by taking oaths of office and marriage? I didn't ask where Jesus drew the line - I have that answer.

I have noticed that when you do not have an answer for something, you either ignore the question or quote the Bible instead of answering the question.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

Justateacher: I DO have a life, I'll get to the questions when I have the time..regarding your question.. I am a follower of Jesus Christ so I do what he says, if others do not then they will be judged by him, not by me. Where do I draw the line? I've never taken an oath and I cannot recall ever swearing to something either, I see no need and Jesus said not to do it.

RD: Your very admission to being a 33rd degree Mason makes me think that you are not telling the truth. Furthermore, even if you are that means nothing..it simply means that you are not in the inner circles. There are different lodges with different agendas and your could very well be in a lodge that is kept out of the loop.


Dizzy 4 years ago

Brie, thank you for your hub, as a child of my Heavenly Father, I have been researching the subject matter of Freemasonry for about a decade now,which is close to me, but not in a good way. I work at a large pharmaceutical company, and when I acquired the seniority which qualified me to get into the maintenance department, I found myself being alienated from the group. The Lord sent a friend, a former marine like me, to educate me about this organization. Freemasons tried to enlist him and have him move to a specific town that had a large membership of Freemasons. He turned them down. At the time, I had served my 4 years in the Marine Corp. and had enlisted in the reserves. My friend accompanied me to the base, and noticed the coffee mug my 1st Sgt. had on his desk, and he asked me if I new what it meant, I said no. Well, the Intro. to Freemason 101 commenced, and it has been shocking and painful. In the past fifteen years, I have complained about attacks to HR, and the Ombudsman,supervisors, but it seems that no one is listening. I have much more to write about; but at this time, I would like to keep it short. The company I work pays high salaries, and obviously, there is a large number of Freemasons employed at my sight. At my job, Freemasons now occupy jobs at every levels of management and hourly. If I suspect am employee's loyalty to his job, I ask him in front of every one if he is a Freemason. Some say no, others will refuse to answer the question. Is there a movement by them to take over US companies that pay good salaries? If there is a movement toward a NWO, you need a lot of money and the political affiliations to succeed a takeover. As a Christian, this NWO will be short lived, because the return of our Lord is near. Another matter that disturbs me is professed Christian involved with Freemason. When Moses saw the burning bush and went to investigate, the Lord said to him, remove your sandals, for the ground to walk on is holy. Our Heavenly Father is Holy, are wonder if these so-called Christian Freemasons have any idea what the m meaning of holy means???? Thank you, your ministry is heaven sent. I will place you in my prayers, please do the same for me.


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Brie Hoffman 4 years ago from Manhattan Author

I will Dizzy, thanks for writing.

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